Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Veil between Normal and Paranormal
Unexplained Mysteries Discussion Forums > Unexplained Mysteries > Ghosts, Hauntings & The Paranormal
Pages: 1, 2
TruBeliever
Hello Fellow Members,

I am going to pose these questions to all of you. I have been always known that their are those that can communicate with the dead, hauntings, the existence of Spirit Guides, Angels, and Dark Entities. I have been fortunate enough to be one of those people. But I can't help but notice a higher incidence of Paranormal activities being reported. So, I ask all of you these questions. Is the veil between our worlds thinning? Is it becoming more commonplace to communicate with the dead as easily as we do each other? What does this mean to those that are just now coming to grips with these Paranormal happenings? And finally, to what end do you foresee taking place as a result of this new age of acceptance? What do you think?

Blessed Be,

TruBeliever
Pluto-x
My hair is thinning, and there's nothing I can do about it! LOL!!! laugh.gif j/k

I believe, there is some kind of veil as you speak. I want to know how to break that barrier ( in a positive way ) so we can better communicate with the intelligent spirits. But in a scientific fashion. Whether it be an invention, method, or technique?

Here's a good question to you Truebeliever... can a residual spirit, become intelligent? We've had some weird EVP's of late that suggests that!?

Encounter85
What if it's a choice, not an obvious one, that's opened to you as you cross the veil. We often explain the existence of spirits as those who died tragically and either don't know they are dead or try to stay with loved ones thus somehow missing the boat to the next state.
Now as people talk, write, discuss on television paranormal activity, so people who are presented with death take what may seem a bold option and deviate from the path?

Encounter85
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(TruBeliever @ Sep 27 2007, 04:20 PM) *
Hello Fellow Members,

I am going to pose these questions to all of you. I have been always known that their are those that can communicate with the dead, hauntings, the existence of Spirit Guides, Angels, and Dark Entities. I have been fortunate enough to be one of those people. But I can't help but notice a higher incidence of Paranormal activities being reported. So, I ask all of you these questions. Is the veil between our worlds thinning? Is it becoming more commonplace to communicate with the dead as easily as we do each other? What does this mean to those that are just now coming to grips with these Paranormal happenings? And finally, to what end do you foresee taking place as a result of this new age of acceptance? What do you think?

Blessed Be,

TruBeliever

I think there is more media hype. More reality shows, documentry, etc. Also, alot more hoaxers and people that the paranormal is their new religion. What we need is lot more solid proof.
Mema
I'm wondering if it's the veil thinning or if it's more people becoming open to the possibility. As fake as some of the psychics on TV are, they have helped get the idea out there. Plus look at the TV shows and movies. As for the end result? Maybe people being less afraid of death, and trying to be nicer in this life lest they end up being unhappy in the next life as a wretched spirit?
Regency
QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Sep 27 2007, 10:48 PM) *
I think there is more media hype. More reality shows, documentry, etc. Also, alot more hoaxers and people that the paranormal is their new religion. What we need is lot more solid proof.


I agree that now days everyone has cable, there are loads of paranormal programmes on TV now compared to 5 years ago. Also the internet plays a part too.

I started a topic earlier today about what if it turned out that YOU ended up as a ghost. Someone posted that they would know about going to the light and how to get help - would the Victorians have had this knowledge (whether it be true or not). I guess what I'm trying to say is now days most people will know what an NDE or OBE is - would that have been the case 100 years ago?

TruBeliever
QUOTE(Pluto-x @ Sep 27 2007, 05:28 PM) *
My hair is thinning, and there's nothing I can do about it! LOL!!! laugh.gif j/k

I believe, there is some kind of veil as you speak. I want to know how to break that barrier ( in a positive way ) so we can better communicate with the intelligent spirits. But in a scientific fashion. Whether it be an invention, method, or technique?

Here's a good question to you Truebeliever... can a residual spirit, become intelligent? We've had some weird EVP's of late that suggests that!?


I believe, there is some kind of veil as you speak. I want to know how to break that barrier ( in a positive way ) so we can better communicate with the intelligent spirits. But in a scientific fashion. Whether it be an invention, method, or technique?

Here's a good question to you Truebeliever... can a residual spirit, become intelligent? We've had some weird EVP's of late that suggests that!?


I believe the "intelligence" of the spirit depends on the type. Is it one that it trapped only to relive the events leading up to their demise or is it true communication. I think communication, between the once and now living has to be demonstrating a level of intelligence. Especially when it comes to those time in which the EVP's are in direct response to questions being asked by the investigators. I don't think the Spirits lose their intelligence just because the moved on to another plane of existence. If anything their intelligence as continued to evolve in order to make contact with us.

Thanks for the excellent response.

Blessed be

TruBeliever
TruBeliever
QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Sep 27 2007, 05:48 PM) *
I think there is more media hype. More reality shows, documentry, etc. Also, alot more hoaxers and people that the paranormal is their new religion. What we need is lot more solid proof.



Gaining insight, education and proof about the paranormal should be the goal of any investigator. Unfortunately, there are always going to be those who jump on the bandwagon for their own personal gain. There are always going to be hoaxers. I think that is why it is necessary for the legitimate ones to do as much as they can to educate themselves, and when investigating, making sure their methods are above reproach and that every scientific tool at their disposal is utilized.

Blessed Be
TruBeliever.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(TruBeliever @ Sep 27 2007, 05:06 PM) *
Gaining insight, education and proof about the paranormal should be the goal of any investigator. Unfortunately, there are always going to be those who jump on the bandwagon for their own personal gain. There are always going to be hoaxers. I think that is why it is necessary for the legitimate ones to do as much as they can to educate themselves, and when investigating, making sure their methods are above reproach and that every scientific tool at their disposal is utilized.
Blessed Be
TruBeliever.

thumbsup.gif
TruBeliever
Mema,

If you are talking about how I think you are, SHE irritates me to no end. Her sensationalism, is just a means to an end. A ploy to sell her books. I apologize to those who this she is the greatest thing since sliced bread. But in my opinion, her and people like her, are the one's that makes it increasingly difficult for honest investigators, mediums and sensitives to gain legitimacy.

Blessed Be

TruBeliever
Pluto-x
( Tips my hat to TB ) Well said!

Another reason why honest investigators, mediums are getting so defensive too...

TruBeliever
QUOTE(Pluto-x @ Sep 27 2007, 06:15 PM) *
( Tips my hat to TB ) Well said!

Another reason why honest investigators, mediums are getting so defensive too...


Exactly, I mean really, it is one thing to be brow beat by the scientific community because of things they try to explain away. But when it is someone that is, supposedly, of like mind causing the problems, it is infuriating.

Blessed be,
TruBeliever

glorybebe
QUOTE(TruBeliever @ Sep 27 2007, 02:20 PM) *
Hello Fellow Members,

I am going to pose these questions to all of you. I have been always known that their are those that can communicate with the dead, hauntings, the existence of Spirit Guides, Angels, and Dark Entities. I have been fortunate enough to be one of those people. But I can't help but notice a higher incidence of Paranormal activities being reported. So, I ask all of you these questions. Is the veil between our worlds thinning? Is it becoming more commonplace to communicate with the dead as easily as we do each other? What does this mean to those that are just now coming to grips with these Paranormal happenings? And finally, to what end do you foresee taking place as a result of this new age of acceptance? What do you think?

Blessed Be,

TruBeliever


My opinion is that the reason we have so many more incidences of paranormal activity is religion. It no longer has the hold that it did on everyone. We no longer burn people at the stakes for communing with spirits. We have freedom of religion that allows us to find the one that fits for us. We are no longer threatened with Hell and ever lasting damnation every time we turn around. Incidences that would have been ignored or not even acknowledged are now happening because we have the blinders off. Maybe that is a little blunt, but so am I, LOL.
chaoszerg
If a veil is thinning would this not be a bad thing.
TruBeliever
QUOTE(glorybebe @ Sep 27 2007, 06:39 PM) *
My opinion is that the reason we have so many more incidences of paranormal activity is religion. It no longer has the hold that it did on everyone. We no longer burn people at the stakes for communing with spirits. We have freedom of religion that allows us to find the one that fits for us. We are no longer threatened with Hell and ever lasting damnation every time we turn around. Incidences that would have been ignored or not even acknowledged are now happening because we have the blinders off. Maybe that is a little blunt, but so am I, LOL.


Glory,

Well said. It is nice to know that we finally live in a day in age that our individual beliefs no longer dictates our very existence. There are still those out there that will still threaten with hellfire...trust me I live in the bible belt of the South. The good news is I can tell them to take a hike without fear of the community coming to my door with torches,pitchforks, and crucifixes. LOL. I am constantly amazed at just what can be seen when you actually, and honestly look. It is truly a wonderous world out there.

Blessed Be

TruBeliever
TruBeliever
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Sep 27 2007, 06:47 PM) *
If a veil is thinning would this not be a bad thing.


What about it would you consider being a "bad" thing?


chaoszerg
QUOTE(TruBeliever @ Sep 27 2007, 11:51 PM) *
What about it would you consider being a "bad" thing?



Dont get me wrong I have a big interest in the paranormal, But if there was a veil between the realm of the living and the realm of the dead ,and if that veil was gone would that not be a terrible thing to have the two merge.
glorybebe
QUOTE(TruBeliever @ Sep 27 2007, 03:50 PM) *
Glory,

Well said. It is nice to know that we finally live in a day in age that our individual beliefs no longer dictates our very existence. There are still those out there that will still threaten with hellfire...trust me I live in the bible belt of the South. The good news is I can tell them to take a hike without fear of the community coming to my door with torches,pitchforks, and crucifixes. LOL. I am constantly amazed at just what can be seen when you actually, and honestly look. It is truly a wonderous world out there.
Blessed Be

TruBeliever



I know! We just need to remember to not be afraid, for that gives some strength. I have seen ghosts since I was wee little, and when I said so to a lady, she told me I was touched by the devil and it was evil. Scared the living daylights out of me, what a horrible thing to say to a little girl! But, I have also found many many religious people who are more open minded, and open hearted.
Veliska
That's an interesting question. A good guestion. Well, I beleive that the veil between paranormal world and reality isn't thinning. I beleive that more people is coming out with their experiances than before. Before people were frightened to say anything about it because they would think people would think they are crazy. we'll not saying that people today dosen't think that...lol. They just don't have an open mind.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(veliska27 @ Sep 27 2007, 06:03 PM) *
That's an interesting question. A good guestion. Well, I beleive that the veil between paranormal world and reality isn't thinning. I beleive that more people is coming out with their experiances than before. Before people were frightened to say anything about it because they would think people would think they are crazy. we'll not saying that people today dosen't think that...lol. They just don't have an open mind.

Many have open minds. They are tired of being duped and lied to.
TruBeliever
QUOTE(glorybebe @ Sep 27 2007, 06:58 PM) *
I know! We just need to remember to not be afraid, for that gives some strength. I have seen ghosts since I was wee little, and when I said so to a lady, she told me I was touched by the devil and it was evil. Scared the living daylights out of me, what a horrible thing to say to a little girl! But, I have also found many many religious people who are more open minded, and open hearted.


I know what you mean Glory. I was sent to psychiatrists, so called ministers, and ultimately forbade to speak of anything or anyone I was hearing and/or seeing. To me it was commonplace, for them it was a frightening experience. I did have a big confidant and supporter in my mother. If it hadn't been for her, I would have probably been is institute somewhere pumped full of thorazine. Believe it or not, one so called Doctor even suggest Electroshock when my father discussed my case with him. Fortunately, by that time my mother and he was divorced and she had custody of me.

Blessed Be,

TruBeliever
Veliska
QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Sep 27 2007, 11:09 PM) *
Many have open minds. They are tired of being duped and lied to.

Lol.......well hello Eric nice too see you again laugh.gif
TruBeliever
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Sep 27 2007, 06:57 PM) *
Dont get me wrong I have a big interest in the paranormal, But if there was a veil between the realm of the living and the realm of the dead ,and if that veil was gone would that not be a terrible thing to have the two merge.


Consider this, the dead is already walking among us, they are just not always being seen or heard, that is why we employ equipment to gain proof that they are here in a very real way. But, instead of looking at it as a bad thing, just imagine the questions we could get answered if an continual flow of conversation could be held between us and someone that has passed. Just think of those that we could help or even gain help from.

Blessed Be,

TruBeliever
glorybebe
QUOTE(TruBeliever @ Sep 27 2007, 04:09 PM) *
I know what you mean Glory. I was sent to psychiatrists, so called ministers, and ultimately forbade to speak of anything or anyone I was hearing and/or seeing. To me it was commonplace, for them it was a frightening experience. I did have a big confidant and supporter in my mother. If it hadn't been for her, I would have probably been is institute somewhere pumped full of thorazine. Believe it or not, one so called Doctor even suggest Electroshock when my father discussed my case with him. Fortunately, by that time my mother and he was divorced and she had custody of me.

Blessed Be,

TruBeliever


Well, I obvioulsy got my "gift" from my mom, she was always seeing people. So, I had her complete understanding. She hadn't talked to her mom for over 15 years and then saw her standing in our kitchen. She knew she was dead long before the letter came notifying her. It runs in the family, and my daughter seems to have it, too. She was waving to a guy one night who no one else could see. I had sensed that someone was hanging around watching us watch the shooting stars, and she kept turning around, finally she waved and I asked her who she was waving to, but I knew since I saw his form behind us. I have had to have a few talks with her about talking to others about it, though, she doesn't need to be picked on because she believes in ghosts.
Veliska
QUOTE(glorybebe @ Sep 27 2007, 11:17 PM) *
Well, I obvioulsy got my "gift" from my mom, she was always seeing people. So, I had her complete understanding. She hadn't talked to her mom for over 15 years and then saw her standing in our kitchen. She knew she was dead long before the letter came notifying her. It runs in the family, and my daughter seems to have it, too. She was waving to a guy one night who no one else could see. I had sensed that someone was hanging around watching us watch the shooting stars, and she kept turning around, finally she waved and I asked her who she was waving to, but I knew since I saw his form behind us. I have had to have a few talks with her about talking to others about it, though, she doesn't need to be picked on because she believes in ghosts.

You are very lucky to have such a gift.
glorybebe
QUOTE(veliska27 @ Sep 27 2007, 04:19 PM) *
You are very lucky to have such a gift.


There were times I wouldn't agree with you. It was quite scary once I understood what they were. And my first sight of true evil terrified me so badly that I blocked everything out for years.
TruBeliever
QUOTE(veliska27 @ Sep 27 2007, 07:19 PM) *
You are very lucky to have such a gift.


I have always considered myself lucky to have this gift as well, however there were times that I wished I could just turn it off. Especially when it came to being faced with approaching someone with bad news. Most of my foresight comes to me in the form of dreams, I do have occasion in which I am very much awake, that have shaken me to my core. It is times like that I pray for guidance, because I have learned the hardway that not everyone is ready, not to mention willing, to hear what has been revealed.

Blessed Be

TruBeliever
Veliska
QUOTE(TruBeliever @ Sep 27 2007, 11:27 PM) *
I have always considered myself lucky to have this gift as well, however there were times that I wished I could just turn it off. Especially when it came to being faced with approaching someone with bad news. Most of my foresight comes to me in the form of dreams, I do have occasion in which I am very much awake, that have shaken me to my core. It is times like that I pray for guidance, because I have learned the hardway that not everyone is ready, not to mention willing, to hear what has been revealed.

Blessed Be

TruBeliever

Well I can see how it can be frightning. So there is no way to channel the bad spirits out? That is scarey. I was watching Silvia Browm before saying something about how she can feel evil presence but she could channel them out. ( I am not a big fan of Silvia Brown anyways...lol) I just remember her saying that.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(veliska27 @ Sep 27 2007, 06:31 PM) *
Well I can see how it can be frightning. So there is no way to channel the bad spirits out? That is scarey. I was watching Silvia Browm before saying something about how she can feel evil presence but she could channel them out. ( I am not a big fan of Silvia Brown anyways...lol) I just remember her saying that.

Say any name but Sylvia Brown. That kills any crediblity. w00t.gif The only evil she felt was herself.
glorybebe
QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Sep 27 2007, 04:34 PM) *
Say any name but Sylvia Brown. That kills any crediblity. w00t.gif The only evil she felt was herself.


LOL, I have to agree with you , there Eric. I can't stand that woman.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(glorybebe @ Sep 27 2007, 06:35 PM) *
LOL, I have to agree with you , there Eric. I can't stand that woman.

Remember the old hag tale that is thought to be sleep paralysis. The truth is its actually Sylvia sitting on your chest chain smoking cigs. w00t.gif grin2.gif
Veliska
QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Sep 27 2007, 11:38 PM) *
Remember the old hag tale that is thought to be sleep paralysis. The truth is its actually Sylvia sitting on your chest chain smoking cigs. w00t.gif grin2.gif

hahahaha like I said i never been a fan of hers...did you see that video of her on montel williams were she made that horriable mistake! oppsssseeyyyyy, anyways I hope all goes well with you guys...and your experiances.
glorybebe
QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Sep 27 2007, 04:38 PM) *
Remember the old hag tale that is thought to be sleep paralysis. The truth is its actually Sylvia sitting on your chest chain smoking cigs. w00t.gif grin2.gif


Gak! If she was sitting on my chest, she'd kill me!

QUOTE( veliska27)
did you see that video of her on montel williams were she made that horriable mistake! oppsssseeyyyyy
Yeah, that kind of killed her for most everyone, that and her mean attitude. She looks down upon everyone and is so arrogant.
Veliska
QUOTE(glorybebe @ Sep 27 2007, 11:53 PM) *
Gak! If she was sitting on my chest, she'd kill me!

Yeah, that kind of killed her for most everyone, that and her mean attitude. She looks down upon everyone and is so arrogant.

lol...yeah she is.........she always rolls her eyes at people.
Leto0022
QUOTE(TruBeliever @ Sep 27 2007, 09:20 PM) *
Hello Fellow Members,

I am going to pose these questions to all of you. I have been always known that their are those that can communicate with the dead, hauntings, the existence of Spirit Guides, Angels, and Dark Entities. I have been fortunate enough to be one of those people. But I can't help but notice a higher incidence of Paranormal activities being reported. So, I ask all of you these questions. Is the veil between our worlds thinning? Is it becoming more commonplace to communicate with the dead as easily as we do each other? What does this mean to those that are just now coming to grips with these Paranormal happenings? And finally, to what end do you foresee taking place as a result of this new age of acceptance? What do you think?

Blessed Be,

TruBeliever


Sylvia Browne seems to think it is!
Veliska
Hmmm well look at us hateing on Silvia Brown....lol. Now my tummy hurts.......
TruBeliever
QUOTE(Leto0022 @ Sep 27 2007, 08:00 PM) *
Sylvia Browne seems to think it is!


Well I wasn't going to say her name, but since you all brought her up. I think she is a glory seeking hack. It is people like her that set back what true investigators, sensitives and psychics are trying to do. That is establish definitive proof. In my opinion a psychic or sensitive that charges a fee for their help is no more gifted that Lassie was a pit bull. I could never charge anyone for what I have seen on location, it was a gift given me in order to help those that don't know where else to turn. If what I tell them can bring them peace of mind and a sense of well being, knowing that is payment enough for me. She preys on people that have are in a very low place in their lives, due to the loss of a loved one either by death or divorce.

The woman by her own statements shows us how wrong she is. She tells people over and over that there are no such thing as demons and dark entities, that only one she ever knew of was her ex husband that lives in Chicago. Well all I can say, for her sake, is that she never encounters one, she has sense enough to acknowledge them for what they are and get the help she needs to, get rid of the entity. I don't even see how she can keep a straight face rattling off the crap she spews on a weekly basis.

Ok time to get off my soapbox now!!! LOL

Blessed be,

TruBeliever
Veliska
QUOTE(TruBeliever @ Sep 28 2007, 12:13 AM) *
Well I wasn't going to say her name, but since you all brought her up. I think she is a glory seeking hack. It is people like her that set back what true investigators, sensitives and psychics are trying to do. That is establish definitive proof. In my opinion a psychic or sensitive that charges a fee for their help is no more gifted that Lassie was a pit bull. I could never charge anyone for what I have seen on location, it was a gift given me in order to help those that don't know where else to turn. If what I tell them can bring them peace of mind and a sense of well being, knowing that is payment enough for me. She preys on people that have are in a very low place in their lives, due to the loss of a loved one either by death or divorce.

The woman by her own statements shows us how wrong she is. She tells people over and over that there are no such thing as demons and dark entities, that only one she ever knew of was her ex husband that lives in Chicago. Well all I can say, for her sake, is that she never encounters one. I don't even see how she can keep a straight face rattling off the crap she spews on a weekly basis.

Ok time to get off my soapbox now!!! LOL

Blessed be,

TruBeliever

Good idea TruBeliever I wished I never brought her up (sorry) sad.gif
TruBeliever
QUOTE(veliska27 @ Sep 27 2007, 08:17 PM) *
Good idea TruBeliever I wished I never brought her up (sorry) sad.gif



No need to be sorry, and I apologize if my words offended you

Blessed Be

TruBeliever
spiridion
One word. Youtube.

Meaning, when I was a child I was intersted in the supernatural and I used to take books about ghosts out of the library. It was an independent interest. However, with the proliferation of the internet, stories, pictures, photos, message boards and chat rooms on any topic ar readily available, and it is quite interactive. This and the added channels and news shows and media outlets make it seem that there is more paranormal activity, but I think we just hear about it more often. (And add to that digital cameras and videos that everyone has and can easily download pictures onto the internet...)
JustNormal
QUOTE(veliska27 @ Sep 28 2007, 12:11 AM) *
Hmmm well look at us hateing on Silvia Brown....lol. Now my tummy hurts.......



Sylvia believes all "ghosts" are good, and are our spirit guides and her infamous line is "OMG Spirits cannot hurt you." I would like to slap her silly LOL... huh.gif
TruBeliever
QUOTE(spiridion @ Sep 27 2007, 08:35 PM) *
One word. Youtube.

Meaning, when I was a child I was intersted in the supernatural and I used to take books about ghosts out of the library. It was an independent interest. However, with the proliferation of the internet, stories, pictures, photos, message boards and chat rooms on any topic ar readily available, and it is quite interactive. This and the added channels and news shows and media outlets make it seem that there is more paranormal activity, but I think we just hear about it more often. (And add to that digital cameras and videos that everyone has and can easily download pictures onto the internet...)



I think you are correct, I think we are exposed to it more than we ever were in the past. And that leads me to wonder how much of what is seen by those who do not investigate, is because of what they have been exposed to. I know that I have been on cases, in which the person was scared out their wits by things they would have, under other circumstances, given a second thought to. That is why I think it is important for there to be a combination of scientific expertise, as well as, psychic/sensitives. That the two should work in unison to esablish proof.

Blessed Be

TruBeliever
TruBeliever
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Sep 27 2007, 08:41 PM) *
Sylvia believes all "ghosts" are good, and are our spirit guides and her infamous line is "OMG Spirits cannot hurt you." I would like to slap her silly LOL... huh.gif


I know, how lame is that. To go as far as to dispute centuries of biblical proof. Well I have got one name for her "LEGION". If anything, this world is one of balances. How can she admit to the good without acknowledging the evil that is in the world. This makes absolutely no sense to me.

Blessed Be

TruBeliever
glorybebe
QUOTE(TruBeliever @ Sep 27 2007, 05:13 PM) *
Well I wasn't going to say her name, but since you all brought her up. I think she is a glory seeking hack. It is people like her that set back what true investigators, sensitives and psychics are trying to do. That is establish definitive proof. In my opinion a psychic or sensitive that charges a fee for their help is no more gifted that Lassie was a pit bull. I could never charge anyone for what I have seen on location, it was a gift given me in order to help those that don't know where else to turn. If what I tell them can bring them peace of mind and a sense of well being, knowing that is payment enough for me. She preys on people that have are in a very low place in their lives, due to the loss of a loved one either by death or divorce.

The woman by her own statements shows us how wrong she is. She tells people over and over that there are no such thing as demons and dark entities, that only one she ever knew of was her ex husband that lives in Chicago. Well all I can say, for her sake, is that she never encounters one, she has sense enough to acknowledge them for what they are and get the help she needs to, get rid of the entity. I don't even see how she can keep a straight face rattling off the crap she spews on a weekly basis.

Ok time to get off my soapbox now!!! LOL

Blessed be,

TruBeliever


That's awesome, Tru! I believe the same way. As soon as someone starts putting there hand out, it makes me wonder about their "gift."
Many, many people can read body language and guess things that they pass off as physic readings.
JustNormal
QUOTE(TruBeliever @ Sep 28 2007, 12:52 AM) *
I know, how lame is that. To go as far as to dispute centuries of biblical proof. Well I have got one name for her "LEGION". If anything, this world is one of balances. How can she admit to the good without acknowledging the evil that is in the world. This makes absolutely no sense to me.

Blessed Be

TruBeliever


I totally agree, she always refers to spirits as one's guide and to allow them to remain in the home or just tell them to leave. That does not work depending on what kind of entity is in a home to begin with. One girl told a story of being in her college dorm, and was attacked physically by a dark entity, and she had bruises and was terrified. Sylvia told her to see a psychiatrist, it was obviously past trauma in her life causing these hallucinations. I was furious, how dare she dismiss someone in that kind of dangerous situation? She should know about good and evil, and I wouldnt want her karma.. no.gif
Veliska
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Sep 28 2007, 03:25 AM) *
I totally agree, she always refers to spirits as one's guide and to allow them to remain in the home or just tell them to leave. That does not work depending on what kind of entity is in a home to begin with. One girl told a story of being in her college dorm, and was attacked physically by a dark entity, and she had bruises and was terrified. Sylvia told her to see a psychiatrist, it was obviously past trauma in her life causing these hallucinations. I was furious, how dare she dismiss someone in that kind of dangerous situation? She should know about good and evil, and I wouldnt want her karma.. no.gif

I agree shouldn't someone that really had a gift want to help people, and be a little more kind? She is totally fake that is why you since the bad karma. You are smart and you know better. I feel so sorry for the individuals that want an answer so badley that they would go to someone like that and spend $700.00 for a session with her.
JustNormal
QUOTE(veliska27 @ Sep 28 2007, 03:34 AM) *
I agree shouldn't someone that really had a gift want to help people, and be a little more kind? She is totally fake that is why you since the bad karma. You are smart and you know better. I feel so sorry for the individuals that want an answer so badley that they would go to someone like that and spend $700.00 for a session with her.



I know and that $700.00 is for like a 20 minute telephone call with her. I wouldnt pay a dime. no.gif
glorybebe
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Sep 27 2007, 08:25 PM) *
I totally agree, she always refers to spirits as one's guide and to allow them to remain in the home or just tell them to leave. That does not work depending on what kind of entity is in a home to begin with. One girl told a story of being in her college dorm, and was attacked physically by a dark entity, and she had bruises and was terrified. Sylvia told her to see a psychiatrist, it was obviously past trauma in her life causing these hallucinations. I was furious, how dare she dismiss someone in that kind of dangerous situation? She should know about good and evil, and I wouldnt want her karma.. no.gif


But, doesn't that say something right there? Maybe she is influenced by a darker side of things. What was that quote? "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist."
JustNormal
QUOTE(glorybebe @ Sep 28 2007, 03:53 AM) *
But, doesn't that say something right there? Maybe she is influenced by a darker side of things. What was that quote? "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist."



I thought the same thing Glory, maybe SHE is not what she appears to be either. But what does that say about Montel, as he enables her so often, and jumps in with damage control..JN
Jennie 1
QUOTE(TruBeliever @ Sep 27 2007, 06:16 PM) *
Consider this, the dead is already walking among us, they are just not always being seen or heard, that is why we employ equipment to gain proof that they are here in a very real way. But, instead of looking at it as a bad thing, just imagine the questions we could get answered if an continual flow of conversation could be held between us and someone that has passed. Just think of those that we could help or even gain help from.

Blessed Be,

TruBeliever


Ok I have nothing to say about Sylvia, because everyone knows she's full of poo!
First of all, I'd like to say that this is a sincere question, I'm not trying to insult anyone or start a fight, can you believe it? grin2.gif
If it is true that some people can see and speak to the dead, why haven't the above mentioned conversations, already taken place?
If there are so many psychics out there, why haven't any of them set up a continual flow of conversation, that tells us what we need to know from the other side?
O.K. that is two questions, sorry, but I am curious.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2008 Invision Power Services, Inc.