love this topic- heres a link to a nice page explaing the 8-bit code used on the crop circle message disk.
crop circle message disk
so what do you fine intelligent believers,skeptics, and all shades inbetween think of all the crop circle stuff?
how? why? what? etc.
clem
oo and heres another good page of ideas on what the crop circles are about.
crop circle info
and dont forget mars tonight- 10/3 pull out your telescope

Oh...I still don't know what to make of crop circles....I don't believe that the majority,
especially the complicated ones, are man made, on the ground. Ie..people sneaking into fields
and squashing the crops down.

But I don't know if they might be man-made using more sophisticated methods...like sound
waves bouncing off a satelite, or something like this.

It just seems too good to be true that they may actually be from an intelligence 'elsewhere'.

It is strange, though, that in general....these amazing shapes, mysteriously appearing...are
not discussed more in the mainsteam.....it's odd. It's like we're used to them...and accept
them....but still have no idea how or why they are appearing. They come....they go....
the only record is photographs.

What's going on??? I'd love to know....

PS...it's cloudy where I am....but what's going on with Mars tonight??

mars is supposed to be closer then its ever been tonight- till 2014 then itll be closer still .
not like that hilarious email that went around that said itll be as big as the moon in the sky.( i guess a lot of people dont really know exactly HOW far away mars is compared to the moon).
i guess with a average telescope you can see a faint yellow tint along with the red (whatever THAT does for ya ).

Thanks...for reply. As it's cloudy and I've only got binoculars.....oh well!

ya its wierd.. you would have thought that as recently as this past july (even 7-7-7) there were crop circles - nice ones, we would have seen SOMETHING on the news. its pretty obvious they are something important- and i think its just a little to close to home (the great mind jump coming) to even want to try to comprehend it for most people- cause that would mean accepting the stories of the 'crazy folk about their aliens' ( unfortunately the government(s) DID do a good job of adding the 'wacko' stigma of ufo/alien talk.)
and accepting that means changing EVERYTHING they've been taught about life and our universe and our leaders. were getting there- just need some patience i guess.
clem

just an offside to that comment, around my way there has recently been a strange effect on the moon...turning it red and enlarging it sometimes triple its size.

A few people have commented to me about it saying 'Did you see the moon last night??? FREAKY!'

haha you try and tell them it has to do with atmospheric disturbances...the moon itself isn't actually changing....just HOW WE SEE IT!

Of course they normally fall asleep when I try and talk science to them haha.

Don't know why I brought that up, just bored at work I suppose....

hmmm

nice..
it was the harvest moon last week- i know that does something (was cool lookin in a telescope. till all of a sudded a machine flys DIRECTLY across my view.. i was WHAT THE>>!?!? then looked without the telescope and it was just a helicopter ROFL . right in from of my view. funny stuff.
anywho ..
if not that who knows.
VERY nice point on not what we see.. but how we see it. still a lot to comprend at the moment- hard to remember 100% perception is a huge part of the puzzle IMO (whatever i mean by that.. ) . for me it was definately a big yellow/orangish tint when it rose. not terribly orange though
ya i love that i found this forum- get to talk with all u peeps that WONT fall asleep when we go on about this stuff lol.

clem