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snowjob
Over many thousands have tried to discover the city of atlantis. Research began with the two books written by Plato.
Many people have claimed to discover ruins of the lost city. Question is how do we know what is really atlantis or not?
Plato says Atlantis is technologically advanced...in present time we may have overlooked this and believed them to have
more tech. than us. It could have been complex building technology, maybe shared by egyptians.

Does any believe we have found the city or it is still lost? Anyone got theories or beliefs on the location?

Please note we have not explored 90% of our ocean.


Edit: I forgot to mention the Bermuda triangle....what kind of connections does this mysterious area hold?
glorybebe
QUOTE(snowjob @ Oct 5 2007, 06:06 PM) *
Over many thousands have tried to discover the city of atlantis. Research began with the two books written by Plato.
Many people have claimed to discover ruins of the lost city. Question is how do we know what is really atlantis or not?
Plato says Atlantis is technologically advanced...in present time we may have overlooked this and believed them to have
more tech. than us. It could have been complex building technology, maybe shared by egyptians.

Does any believe we have found the city or it is still lost? Anyone got theories or beliefs on the location?

Please note we have not explored 90% of our ocean.


Personally I think there is a possibility that it was a real civilization that sank into the ocean during an earthquake. I do believe that though it might have been more technologically advanced than other civilizations of the time, it was exaggerated through the story telling.
snowjob
QUOTE(glorybebe @ Oct 5 2007, 09:12 PM) *
Personally I think there is a possibility that it was a real civilization that sank into the ocean during an earthquake. I do believe that though it might have been more technologically advanced than other civilizations of the time, it was exaggerated through the story telling.


exactly! thats why i believe we could have come on to the ruins and have mistaken them for another civilization.
glorybebe
QUOTE(snowjob @ Oct 5 2007, 06:20 PM) *
exactly! thats why i believe we could have come on to the ruins and have mistaken them for another civilization.


Very true. There are so many mysteries that we haven't even half way figured out on this planet. And, yes, there is so much of the Earth's crust under the oceans of this world, you never know what is down there.
oakster
QUOTE(snowjob @ Oct 6 2007, 01:20 AM) *
exactly! thats why i believe we could have come on to the ruins and have mistaken them for another civilization.


I am just putting this out there why would a intelligent civilization build somthing on a destructuive ZONE somthing on the level?
snowjob
QUOTE(oakster @ Oct 5 2007, 09:30 PM) *
I am just putting this out there why would a intelligent civilization build somthing on a destructuive ZONE somthing on the level?



think about it if the technological "power" of the atlantians are overlooked they prolly didnt have knowledge that we have now. it could have been an unexpected event, there are many theories to the destruction of their civilization.

i understand your point though....
glorybebe
QUOTE(oakster @ Oct 5 2007, 06:30 PM) *
I am just putting this out there why would a intelligent civilization build somthing on a destructuive ZONE somthing on the level?


You mean like people who right now live near rivers that flood just about every year, or people who live in places that have been hit by Tornados over and over? How about islands that have been devastated by hurricanes numerous times? We still live in dangerous places and we think we are so technologically advanced.
Cdt_Lovekamp_US_ARMY_ROTC
QUOTE(glorybebe @ Oct 5 2007, 08:12 PM) *
Personally I think there is a possibility that it was a real civilization that sank into the ocean during an earthquake. I do believe that though it might have been more technologically advanced than other civilizations of the time, it was exaggerated through the story telling.


im with you
oakster
I was sold a lemon in my time? so is the Atlantians raising there fist at there real-estate agent is this a pass the buck at there govenment issue or a blame game

still putting this out there?

glorybebe
QUOTE(oakster @ Oct 5 2007, 07:15 PM) *
I was sold a lemon in my time? so is the Atlantians raising there fist at there real-estate agent is this a pass the buck at there govenment issue or a blame game

still putting this out there?


What? What I said is that we still live in dangerous places, and since I don't believe that Atlantis was some all powerful home of the Gods, how would they know if they were living somewhere that could sink into the ocean? Look at the people who lived around Mt. Vesuvius. They had no idea that they were living under a time bomb, and they were one of the most civilized societies of the time.
dest_titor1
Atlantis is a continent as said by Plato at that time the ocean were lower, at that time their were many places referred to as the gates of gebralter, i think it was what is now cuba and it was a SUB-continent the under senors say that it resembles what Plato said.

Cuba=Atlantis
snowjob
QUOTE(oakster @ Oct 5 2007, 10:15 PM) *
I was sold a lemon in my time? so is the Atlantians raising there fist at there real-estate agent is this a pass the buck at there govenment issue or a blame game

still putting this out there?



hmm? elaborate plz
snowjob
QUOTE(dest_titor1 @ Oct 5 2007, 10:26 PM) *
Atlantis is a continent as said by Plato at that time the ocean were lower, at that time their were many places referred to as the gates of gebralter, i think it was what is now cuba and it was a SUB-continent the under senors say that it resembles what Plato said.

Cuba=Atlantis



the pillars of gibraltar u mean. they were south of spain.


edit: ACTUALLY there were many places gibraltar is...could be cuba tho....
glorybebe
QUOTE(dest_titor1 @ Oct 5 2007, 07:26 PM) *
Atlantis is a continent as said by Plato at that time the ocean were lower, at that time their were many places referred to as the gates of gebralter, i think it was what is now cuba and it was a SUB-continent the under senors say that it resembles what Plato said.

Cuba=Atlantis


Wasn't that discussed on a show on the Discovery Channel?
oakster
its cool that we can be so self thought in our expalnations, in many places you will be on the head for your views

god bless us!
M.A.D
i beleive yes like generations of the past when one's were gone but now the generations of today pick up were they have left off ,and the torch be handed on.
oakster
QUOTE(oakster @ Oct 6 2007, 03:01 AM) *
its cool that we can be so self thought in our expalnations, in many places you will be on the head for your views

god bless us!

banged on the head opps'''
jaylemurph
Well, the simple fact of the matter is that there is no reference to Atlantis before Plato. He clearly described Atlantis as an allegory, and virtually every other ancient was able to appreciate it as such. There is no reason to believe -- other than /wanting/ to believe it -- that Atlantis was ever a literal place.

--Jaylemurph

PS: I really can't even take credit for this post as Emma Acid has written it at least a dozen times before me.
M.A.D
to find the base in this atlantis story you must go back befor this to find on what rock did these people lived in harmonie with the land sea and sky sorttospeak
M.A.D
wasen't there talk of the father from the preist that told what's his name that waited 70 odd years to put it to paper or what ever they used back then
snowjob
QUOTE(jaylemurph @ Oct 5 2007, 11:08 PM) *
Well, the simple fact of the matter is that there is no reference to Atlantis before Plato. He clearly described Atlantis as an allegory, and virtually every other ancient was able to appreciate it as such. There is no reason to believe -- other than /wanting/ to believe it -- that Atlantis was ever a literal place.

--Jaylemurph

PS: I really can't even take credit for this post as Emma Acid has written it at least a dozen times before me.



QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 5 2007, 11:16 PM) *
to find the base in this atlantis story you must go back befor this to find on what rock did these people lived in harmonie with the land sea and sky sorttospeak



good points, atlantis was demolished before plato wrote his books, never thought of it like that.....
M.A.D
and he said somthing like those greeks well you know what happened to those greeks they did not fallow in there father's way's and they to fell by the wayside
oakster
cassey plato where do we stop with the dreams?
Whisper of the Trees
Actually, I think I know what "Atlantis" was and it /was/ a Sub-Continent called Lemuria. (Yes I know how strange the name sounds....) Look it up. original.gif Some very interesting points.

Though they said Atlantis was an Island, I don't believe such.

And many scientists think that /Atlantis/ was an island that got blown apart and some of it sank. Though I forget the name of the Island.
M.A.D
back when the altas mts and the appalation mts were one, because the missing link would have been the island of cape breton which is starting off it's celtic corlars today with the cheiftens i think that's right mabey not any way should be lots of music and beer
snowjob
it couldn't have been a fantasy.... unless its a sort of uhh tall tale...
jaylemurph
QUOTE(snowjob @ Oct 5 2007, 11:20 PM) *
good points, atlantis was demolished before plato wrote his books, never thought of it like that.....


That's one way of looking at it. You could even suggest there /was/ no Atlantis at all before it crossed Plato's mind.



QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 5 2007, 11:23 PM) *
and he said somthing like those greeks well you know what happened to those greeks they did not fallow in there father's way's and they to fell by the wayside


I'm sorry: who said what to whom? MAD, man, it's hard to see your meaning, sometime.

--Jaylemurph
glorybebe
QUOTE(jaylemurph @ Oct 5 2007, 08:34 PM) *
That's one way of looking at it. You could even suggest there /was/ no Atlantis at all before it crossed Plato's mind.
I'm sorry: who said what to whom? MAD, man, it's hard to see your meaning, sometime.

--Jaylemurph


IMO, every legend has it's grain of truth. And every writer has his/her creative license.
jaylemurph
QUOTE(glorybebe @ Oct 5 2007, 11:40 PM) *
IMO, every legend has it's grain of truth. And every writer has his/her creative license.


That's true, Glory, but surely you realize it's just silliness to assume every story ever is literally true.

--Jaylemurph
M.A.D
i only say this because i see it in the stone ,and it match the time frame of when it was made on ether side it's it's the same but here it's scished to 130 miles or km.

but what's above water and can be seen is what's left the cap stone.

she did fall but it was over long piots of time pretty much like a quick ending with a freash start.

snowjob
QUOTE(jaylemurph @ Oct 5 2007, 11:42 PM) *
That's true, Glory, but surely you realize it's just silliness to assume every story ever is literally true.

--Jaylemurph


i haven't read plato's books so i cant recall how atlantis got it's name, but i dont think plato created this story out of the blue, although the story may be exaggerated....overly
glorybebe
QUOTE(jaylemurph @ Oct 5 2007, 08:42 PM) *
That's true, Glory, but surely you realize it's just silliness to assume every story ever is literally true.

--Jaylemurph


No, that is why I said that every writer had a creative license. You can have an actual happening and by the time it has been retold a few times, the truth is minute while the legend has grown.
M.A.D
QUOTE(jaylemurph @ Oct 6 2007, 03:42 AM) *
That's true, Glory, but surely you realize it's just silliness to assume every story ever is literally true.

--Jaylemurph


i can give you one legend that is true and that is how p.e.i got it's name from the mic-mac's
jaylemurph
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 5 2007, 11:48 PM) *
i can give you one legend that is true and that is how p.e.i got it's name from the mic-mac's


Do it, MAD man, do it.

--Jaylemurph
M.A.D
and i can take you to the mt were that man ow so long ago sat down and wrote it are at least got his insperation to do what that legand say's
M.A.D
the name is when "you see a boat from far off and it way heavy in the water" ,the truth if not pretty darn close
jaylemurph
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 5 2007, 11:50 PM) *
and i can take you to the mt were that man ow so long ago sat down and wrote it are at least got his insperation to do what that legand say's


I'll settle for you just telling me the tale here, MAD.

--Jaylemurph
snowjob
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 5 2007, 11:53 PM) *
the name is when "you see a boat from far off and it way heavy in the water" ,the truth if not pretty darn close


yes but many hoaxes create the same effect.... only evidence can divulge hoaxes/lies from the truth and evidence maybe be hard if somewhat impossible to find in this case
M.A.D
you do realiz that early man was inspired by his suranding's and if god said build a boat he had to see what that boat would look like now wouldn't he.

and if your gone fill it with every kind a thing that it would take to survive , wel she will way heavy in the water right
snowjob
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 5 2007, 11:59 PM) *
you do realiz that early man was inspired by his suranding's and if god said build a boat he had to see what that boat would look like now wouldn't he.

and if your gone fill it with every kind a thing that it would take to survive , wel she will way heavy in the water right



yes yes and the same thing with fire breathing dragons and titans heh ive heard this before from slyvia brown....(check out my topic on her in paranormal tv/media)


also chubacobra......ufos.....medusa....hydras.....lepracons... and hey maybe santa clasue and the easter bunny
M.A.D
QUOTE(snowjob @ Oct 6 2007, 03:56 AM) *
yes but many hoaxes create the same effect.... only evidence can divulge hoaxes/lies from the truth and evidence maybe be hard if somewhat impossible to find in this case


no bull s..... that what the mic-mac people call p.e.i and it so happens the mt were you can see this boat is right here on this littel rock in the stream called cape breton .

and if you read the legand or story this is just one of four that surrand this place
M.A.D
from generation to generation down through time you get that puddy'cat over there in eygept but even that cat had it's oriagens huge in size and they are living but through us that are here, along with three other's, i say this because i'm from the one with hornes since being born in the sign of the bull
snowjob
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 6 2007, 12:21 AM) *
from generation to generation down through time you get that puddy'cat over there in eygept but even that cat had it's oriagens huge in size and they are living but through us that are here, along with three other's, i say this because i'm from the one with hornes since being born in the sign of the bull



what your saying is 4 are better than 1?
M.A.D
i would say 4 as 1
snowjob
gotcha! but im not disputing the existence of atlantis, it is definetely something i believe and will stand by
M.A.D
and with two set's of wing's toboot
snowjob
heh you speak in riddles but i understand your meaning
M.A.D
we are talking how early man could carve on mass scale right this atlantis right with harmonie with the land sea and sky.

well there is not just beast's that have been carved out of the bedrock just look to the heavens and see that there is man to
M.A.D
the silants is deffining
AntariStarChild
As is the lost city Atlantis just like other cities way back in time line B.C long with other civilians that have walked on earth. Although many people don't believe what went on past more then 3,000 years of time around B.C even the stories that others tell about the lost city and its myths. As is the people who once lived in lost city the secrets and city its self died with in them.

reason for edit just remove one wording
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