Spin off of my other topic.

What if we were to learn that humans are nothing more than advanced AI created by highly advanced ETs. Of course we would have no way to comprehend this since we are all we know and we are programmed to think of ourselves as "living".

We don't just think of ourselves as "living", we really do live. Our (human) definition of living is something that grows, feeds and reproduces. Even if we were AI, we'd still be alive.
And I personally wouldn't be much affected if we turned out to be AI. I'd be shocked at first, but hey, whatcha gonna do about it? Just live your life.

I see you took the red pill. Ready to learn Tai Kwan Do?

Just kidding. That's a very interesting topic. It would definitely shake me to my core. I'd probably "choose" to go on the way I was and not "know" that. Remember that guy in the Matrix who went traitor just so long as he could have a medium rare steak and they'd send him back to his "life"?

That'd be me.

I could see an alien hybrid, but not AI. Artificial Intelligence is usually referred to as "defines it as "the science and engineering of making intelligent machines". I don't classify myself as a machine.

I do, since my body's movement, internal dynamics, and physiology seldom directly coincide with my envisioned desires. When do I ever really think 'wow - I behaved/moved/thought/acted/spoke exactly like how I wanted to today - in every situation I encountered'? I don't. Instead, my internal dialogue consistently nags me and tells me I could have handled a situation better, or that I should have been calmer or stood up for myself more, etc. In other words, I'm in charge of a machine (my body) and this machine seldom performs its task to an impeccable degree of perfection. Instead, at best it still kind of performs a botched job pretty much all day long. Lots of room for improvement.

In other words...we may not be machines, but we're definitely more than what our bodies show or tell. Our bodies are probably mere biological containers just like the aliens so often refer to us as. These containers could definitely stand to be refined and perfected further over several generations and eons. Kind of like how we step into modern vehicles and these vehicles in turn might think of themselves (through AI) as being self aware and in charge of their destiny, when in fact, they're not. They're still slaves to the driver's whims.

Of course, the only difference between such a scenario and the one at hand is that in this case, although we may be these "self aware" vehicles, we may actually truly be the drivers ourselves and haven't realized it - yet.

we may actually truly be the drivers ourselves and haven't realized it - yet.

Yeah DS.
What if Earth is the only planet with "advanced" lifeforms in our Solar System/Universe ?
We are the Planet sending out signals that couldn"t be perceived by other life for Milleniums!
We may be the "drivers" ?
Who knows ?
Excellent thought.

They do?

Yes, we do (oops).

I think the OP has read this months issue of Focuc(UK) Magazine.
All the replys also correlate to the mags replies.

Why would you? After all what if you were programmed to believe things composed of "cells" are living, when in reality, Cells are also AI created by ETs.

Are you some of you actually telling me that finding out that you are nothing more than an inanimate object would have no effect on you? To realize you were nothing more than an advanced "machine" would not effect you in the slightest bit?

i would try to get them to "reboot" the matrix. i would like an opprotunity to do some things different.

I'm not talking about a computer generated world, I'm talking about HUMANS themselves being artificially made.

How are we not artificially made? Two entities bound to Earth must find a way to unite and copulate to eventually form a small, bluish version of themselves within a nine month period - all using materials found only from that milieu. This little entity then grows and becomes self aware, and goes about its business for a finite period, then its entire body eventually becomes reduced in efficiency, ceases to function, and returns to its environment to decompose and thereby provide the necessary materials by which other little entities might arrive in the future. Sounds pretty artificial and 'farmed' to me. Besides, absolutely everything we eat, touch, drink, and excrete contains atoms and molecules that have been around since time immemorial. We are in effect, "recycling" ourselves over time - just like Morpheus described in the Matrix.

Nosce te ipsum - that's the key I think to becoming aware and free within this bound system. So in that sense, the Matrix is a sheer reality. Not really "machines" are creating us for their malevolent purposes of course, but the current system does have very similar parallels in nearly every other aspect. And in terms of living in a computer simulation, why not? I mean even our everyday vocabulary reflects this possibility when we say stuff like "you can't fight the system" and "get with the program". The Matrix was a simulated reality, and so is the actual Earth environment itself. Heck - even the Buddhists say that "this ife is an illusion".

Man (and woman) needs to wake up. Time to stop the dream and start the reality.

Define real intelligence and define artificial intelligence.

Are you posting these threads just so we will see Ron Paul's name so that we might vote for him? (lol)

I dont think it would affect me much. I always felt we were made here. I would be grateful to those that made us. I do believe we have free will.

It's only a dream. It's only a dream. It's only a dream. It's only a dream. It's only a dream. It's only a dream. It's only a dream. It's only a dream. It's only a dream. It's only a dream.

Icarus has found you!

i know dude, it was just some sci-fi humor.