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rainbow_serpent
Please help me out. I'm experienceing what is classified as poltergeist. I've seen items move around on their own as well as household appliances turning themselves on and off. What is going on? Do you believe I am moving the items around with my own mind? I have an item that has completely dissapeared. I need the item back. I can't get over all of this untill I get it back.
Catalunademon
Deary,

Poltergeists are sort of my forte. Simple advice. If it scares you or bugs you, simply say to the ghost OUT LOUD that you want them to knock it off. Most of the time, when they swipe something...especially if it is really important to you...the are just looking to get your attention. Poltergeist hate to be ignored, believe me. Tell them you know they are there and that you would please like your stuff back. Let them know you will talk to them and pay attention to them if they stop trying so hard to scare you. 8 out of 10 times your missing stuff will appear exactly in the last place you saw it with 2 or 3 days. If you have a dark poltergeist, then you need to think exorcizism. Hey, even spirits get lonely sometimes!
dancin'hamster
Rainbow ~ can I ask why you believe you have a Poltergeist?
What else is happening in your home?
Most poltergiest outbreaks last only for a few weeks and are very low-key. It is a build-up of energy and not an angry spirit, and the fear and stress of the situation fuels the energy, thus making a viscious circle of fear-phenomena-fear etc.
I would advise you not to be afraid but to take interest in any phenomena. Record any movements and keep a diary, then check and double-check tp make sure that no one else could be responsible.

Hope this helps

Hammy x x x
rainbow_serpent
Rainbow ~ can I ask why you believe you have a Poltergeist?

I believe I have a poltergeist because I've seen things that defy logic.

1. A paper sliding across the table on it's own.

2. The bathroom cabinet shaking.

3. strange low voices. ( These all happened right before my dad came home. It seemed like some kind of warning from something that he was there.)

4. The thing that scared me the most was a fan turning itself on right after I had turned it off. That same night I noticed my paper missing. It seemed like something was intentinally trying to f___ with my mind.

If you have any logical explanations for anything I've mentioned above please tell me what you think they are. (The fan specifically.)


What else is happening in your home?

Their is alot of tension between me and my parents. I am also recovering from a traumatic inner ear injury while worrying about other problems.

Most poltergiest outbreaks last only for a few weeks and are very low-key. It is a build-up of energy and not an angry spirit, and the fear and stress of the situation fuels the energy, thus making a viscious circle of fear-phenomena-fear etc.

Everything has been low key. ( One thing happens every few weeks.) The scariest thing has been the fan turning itself on when I was there. I have heard people also say that poltergeists are spirits. (Like the guy above says.) The thought that I could be doing this unknowingly with my mind seems just as crazy as a spirit being involved. Could you explain where you think this energy comes from?

I would advise you not to be afraid but to take interest in any phenomena. Record any movements and keep a diary, then check and double-check tp make sure that no one else could be responsible.

Hope this helps

Thank you for takeing the time to help.

Hammy x x x
dancin'hamster
QUOTE (rainbow_serpent @ Jan 13 2004, 02:39 AM)
I believe I have a poltergeist because I've seen things that defy logic.

1. A paper sliding across the table on it's own.

2. The bathroom cabinet shaking.

3. strange low voices. ( These all happened right before my dad came home. It seemed like some kind of warning from something that he was there.)

4. The thing that scared me the most was a fan turning itself on right after I had turned it off. That same night I noticed my paper missing. It seemed like something was intentinally trying to f___ with my mind.

If you have any logical explanations for anything I've mentioned above please tell me what you think they are. (The fan specifically.)


Their is alot of tension between me and my parents. I am also recovering from a traumatic inner ear injury while worrying about other problems.

Everything has been low key. ( One thing happens every few weeks.) The scariest thing has been the fan turning itself on when I was there. I have heard people also say that poltergeists are spirits. (Like the guy above says.) The thought that I could be doing this unknowingly with my mind seems just as crazy as a spirit being involved. Could you explain where you think this energy comes from?


Hello again Rainbow original.gif

You make several points in your reply and I hope I can respond to them.

Firstly ~ you mention you have seen things that defy logic. Paper sliding and a cabinet shaking. Could these have been caused by anything else? Draughts, heavy traffic vibrations etc?
Perhaps a power surge was responsible for turning the fan back on. I live in a rural town and we have power-cuts and power-surges. Sometimes all the lights go on and everything goes crazy, but it's just Southern Electric going haywire grin2.gif
The low voices.........again it makes me think of the indistinct voices that many people claim to hear before they fall asleep. Just rumblings insode the ear - and you do mention an ear injury (nothing serious I hope?).
Secondly ~ and most importantly you mention a 'tension' between you and your parents. The vast majority of poltergeist outbreaks occur in an enviroment where there is a certain amount of emotional upheaval......could this be the very source of the phenomena? Emotions cause very strong energies, energies which could possibly effect objects around the home (R.S.P.K).

There are many, many theories as to why and how Poltergeist outbreaks begin. I think that the idea of a dead entity out to cause trouble is absolutely ridiculas BUT it may be the case in some circumstances.
There are many organisations who will offer you and your family help and support. Please try and avoid any that make stupid claims and charge you for a house 'clearing' or 'blessing' as they are most certainly con-merchants.

I hope that this problem will soon leave you as I have had a similar experience myself and know how disturbing it can be.

Good Luck

Hammy x x x
Babs
rainbow_ serpent....

These things have happened to me.Calm down,first. original.gif There isn't anything to be upset about except, maybe your emotional time with your parents.Work on that and things will calm down.Make a conscious effort to calm your atmosphere.You can soften things...you can do it with your mind.

I always looked at these things as mysterious and exciting ,so I loved this type of happening.However, there are those who do not like this sort of thing.

Change your mental outlook... AND how you look at these happenings.You will experience an amazing difference. original.gif
rainbow_serpent
QUOTE (dancin'hamster @ Jan 13 2004, 06:01 PM)





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Hello again Rainbow original.gif

You make several points in your reply and I hope I can respond to them.

Firstly ~ you mention you have seen things that defy logic. Paper sliding and a cabinet shaking. Could these have been caused by anything else? Draughts, heavy traffic vibrations etc?

I don't believe any of those things are causeing the occurences at home. (I live in the woods away from traffic.) But I don't know. I'm honestly trying to be as skeptical as possible about everything. What about the guy who did different experiments named hutchison? Do you believe anything he studied could apply to anything I've experienced?

Perhaps a power surge was responsible for turning the fan back on. I live in a rural town and we have power-cuts and power-surges. Sometimes all the lights go on and everything goes crazy, but it's just Southern Electric going haywire grin2.gif
The low voices.........again it makes me think of the indistinct voices that many people claim to hear before they fall asleep. Just rumblings insode the ear - and you do mention an ear injury (nothing serious I hope?).

Hey, you are right about the ear. That's the way I tried to explain the voices. I'm still experienceing tinnitus from the accident that happened nine months ago. (ringing in the ears, weird sounds, etc.) The ear injury happened last april and is very serious. It came close to healing itself many times and then goes back to how it was. I'm experienceing inner ear concussion syndrome. ( That means their is a damaged nerve sending wrong messages to the brain.) Do you believe this injury could have unlocked some sort of psychic ability? ( Many bizzare coincedences have also occured.) Do you believe I have been useing a different part of my brain since this happened? I also started meditateing which proably has alot to do with some of what's going on.

Secondly ~ and most importantly you mention a 'tension' between you and your parents. The vast majority of poltergeist outbreaks occur in an enviroment where there is a certain amount of emotional upheaval......could this be the very source of the phenomena? Emotions cause very strong energies, energies which could possibly effect objects around the home (R.S.P.K).

I have read up on R.S.P.K. It just seems so weird to me. The idea that I'm moveing things with my mind seems crazy. Do you know of a website with good information on how someone could possibly be able to do such a thing? Do you believe R.S.P.K could allow someone to actually make their possessions dissapear in anither room just by worrying about them?

There are many, many theories as to why and how Poltergeist outbreaks begin. I think that the idea of a dead entity out to cause trouble is absolutely ridiculas BUT it may be the case in some circumstances.
There are many organisations who will offer you and your family help and support. Please try and avoid any that make stupid claims and charge you for a house 'clearing' or 'blessing' as they are most certainly con-merchants.

I am actually the only one that has experienced anything paranormal. Except for my mom mentioning a cold chill when I was in the room. ( I forgot to mention that cold chills are being experienced all the time everywhere in the house.) I havent told them about any of this. I'm just hopeing it will all go away.

I hope that this problem will soon leave you as I have had a similar experience myself and know how disturbing it can be.

You've had similar experiences? Could you find a logical explanation? BTW: the tention is a result of a secret I've been keeping from them if that helps any. Write back whenever you get a chance.
rainbow_serpent
rainbow_ serpent....

These things have happened to me.Calm down,first. original.gif There isn't anything to be upset about except, maybe your emotional time with your parents.Work on that and things will calm down.Make a conscious effort to calm your atmosphere.You can soften things...you can do it with your mind.

I always looked at these things as mysterious and exciting ,so I loved this type of happening.However, there are those who do not like this sort of thing.

Change your mental outlook... AND how you look at these happenings.You will experience an amazing difference. original.gif

How could I possibly be able to move objects around the house with my mind?
dancin'hamster
QUOTE (rainbow_serpent @ Jan 14 2004, 05:51 PM)
How could I possibly be able to move objects around the house with my mind?

By using psychokinesis Rain-bow!

I copied this for you to have a look a - there are loads of sites on-line!

In experiments subjects were asked to exert their mental energy to influence on the flipping of the coins, so to attempt to make them come up heads or tails so the bulbs on the apparatus would light up in one direction or the other. Some subjects did successfully influence the coin toss. The electronic coin flipper was the prototype of random event generators, computerized techniques which have since played a major role in both ESP and PK testing, and have produced significant PK test results.

Schmidt was also interested in determining animal-PK. In tests animal produced some positive results, but Schmidt found the interpretation difficult. He theorized that the experimenter could influenced the results by using his own PK upon the experimental subjects. His theory has been proven accurate because this has been determined to be an obstacle in all psi-testing of animals. It is virtually impossible to tell which is exhibiting the PK ability, the animal or researcher. Because of this obstacle little has been done in animal-PK testing, but whenever such testing has occurred Schmidt's guidelines have been used.

Among the most notable macro-PK exhibits was what is now called the "Geller Effect." This was during the 1960's when macro-PK experiments became popular again. The Israeli psychic Uri Geller amazed television audiences with his metal bending feats. These feats were performed in a studio and not under controlled conditions. With a few raps and some mental concentration the feats seemed to be accomplished. Geller's powers seemed to be so powerful that some viewers said some of their household objects underwent similar changes. But, Geller was unsuccessfully able to duplicate the feats under laboratory conditions. Critics, mostly professional magicians, claim Geller had used sleight-of-hand, although such claims went unproved.

The Soviets revealed their most famous PK subject to the West in 1968. A housewife from Leningrad, Nina Kulagina, born in the mid-1920s demonstrated her abilities to Western scientists who observed the movements of many different sizes and types of stationary objects; the altering of the course of objects already in motion; and impressions on photographic film. She was also reported to have exerted PK effect on the heart of a frog, which had been removed from the animal. She first changed its rate of beating, and then completely stopped it. Kulagina was photographed apparently levitating objects.

Tests in both maco-PK and micro-PK have continued with increased sophisticated methodology. Experimenters focused their attention on psychics, mediums, and others who could apparently influence static objects and materials. There were various experiments and results. One subject Ingo Swann, a New York artist and psychic, could change the temperature of object close to him by one degree; also, he could affect the magnetic field of a magnetometer.

Other PK experiments have concerned animals and plants. Healers have held wounded mice; and water to be applied to barely seeds. Both showed impressive results. PK effects have been observed in micro-organisms and enzymes. In some cases the effect is slight and might not be replicated, but to researchers these results hold promise that they may lead to further findings which will lead to further knowledge about the healing process.

Associated with these types of experiments is what is known at the "linger effect." An example of this is when the subject has raise or lowered the temperature and the temperature continues to rise or fall for some time after the subject leaves. Water which has been held by a healer which seemed to influence growth of plants allegedly seems to influence their growth even after it has been boiled.

There are other types of PK which have been studied but are view with a fair amount of skepticism. One of these types is activity of a poltergeist. Such activity includes repeated, unexplained sounds, breaking of china, or other mysterious activity in a house or small area. There are well-authenticated reports describing flying rocks, or heavy furniture moving when no person was found, or known to be at the time at the point of origin of the activity.

Poltergeist activity is generally associated with children or adolescents. One suggestion for this is that the activity is caused from a strong repression of hostility. In the Middle Ages, the cause was frequently thought to be the Devil, or a demon possessing a person, but currently it is thought to be a manifestation of PK activity.

Another type of PK activity is thought by those who experience it to be associated with death, danger or other emotional crisis. In such incidents persons reports falling pictures, clocks which stop, or stopped clocks which start, and shattering of glasses. The persons feels these incidents have indicated a death, or some highly emotional crisis.


alienmojo
First off.. poltergeists (or noisy ghosts in German) have very little to do with ghosts. They are not ghosts. Poltergeists are the manifestation of supressed feelings usually from adolescent children going through puberty. It is a form of telekinesis that is uncontrollable. There have been many tests done that show that when poltergeist activivty occurs there is usually a pre-buescent teen in the home. Remove the teen and the activity ends. Missing objects, noises, and objects moving are the most common.

However, if there is no teen available it is still posssible this can be caused by an adult who is under great stress. However, it is rare. If no child is present it may actually then be a ghost.

My point here is to be careful with what you call something. Poltergeists are not ghosts. True poltergeists that is.
Babs
I've never had things move across a room or a cold chill in the house.A cold chill is associated with ghosts...and ghosts can be present without a chill,too. abduct.gif
Azael
Just for fun, hang up a crucifix somewhere in your house.
Tell us if it disappears.
LittleIrishVampiress
you are forgetting that there are cases that can not be explained as being the result of stressed teens and built up emotion. just because there have been many to be proved so, dosnt mean they all are.

oh, and i know this is straying from the matter at hand, but what is that ringing in your ear that goes on for a good while, fades then is gone. i hear it all the time and you can only hear it in one ear. my sis says she hears it too, tho not at the same time. i know theres prob a well - known explaination for it so i was just wondering if anyone here knew what it was.

lots o' love wub.gif
katie
Lottie
I have been involved in investigating poltergeist activity in the past. In my opinion and many others feel this way, poltergeist activity is down to an individual who unwittingly has the ability of using psychokinesis [Telekinesis]. I feel that probably 80%, maybe more, of these cases are down to the individual but the other percent are to do with spirits.
Kismit
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I feel that probably 80%, maybe more, of these cases are down to the individual but the other percent are to do with spirits.


How do you tell the difference between a psychokenetic potergiest and a non-corpearal poltergiest ?
LittleIrishVampiress
QUOTE (Kismit @ Jan 18 2004, 12:48 AM)
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I feel that probably 80%, maybe more, of these cases are down to the individual but the other percent are to do with spirits.


How do you tell the difference between a psychokenetic potergiest and a non-corpearal poltergiest ?

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well, first you have to do thorough investigation on the particular case and if theres no hormone suffering teen, stressed adult or tension in the household, the poss of it being the fault of the persons who live there is ruled out. then you research on the area. then you can rule out low frequency sound and faults in the earth. finally, if there are voices that even you the investigator has experienced you must come to the conclusion its other-worldly, esp. when it starts speaking of foreign places and in foreign tongue.

there have been such cases. teenage girls are not present and neither are any other stressed individuals.
Lottie
Hi Kismit

You asked:

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How do you tell the difference between a psychokenetic potergiest  and a non-corpearal poltergiest ?


More or less as the LittleIrishVampire [thanks LIV] said. In the cases I have worked on as has been mentioned you interview the family and ask them questions about their relationships etc to determine if their is any emotional unrest or turbulence. This is still quite embarrasing for me and I almost become a counsellor. Then we conduct scientific experiments, as has been mentioned, ruling in or out the cause.
The other thing is that I am a medium and so are a couple of people I work with so its quite easy to walk into a location anyway and to 'know' whether the activity is caused by a Spirit/spirits. And of course I am aware of people who have psychic abilities of some type or another, so its fairly easy to pick out the person who is causing it as well.

Lottie wink2.gif
Babs
Lottie...

Tell me how you can know or sense the difference between pk and spirits.And how do you sense a person with psychic abilities?How does all of this feel to you?
girlwithacut
Is anyone that special to have telekenisis? Rainbow, trust me it's not you. If you were moving the items, you would know it by now. Your house got issues. Research and investigate and if that doesn't work, move out! It won't leave.
rainbow_serpent
Hey, sorry it's been so long. I want to thank everyone for their advice. So where does everyone think this psychokinetic ability comes from?
Babs
I think this ability comes from us.What is it?...ENERGY. Some sort of energy...some people say it is your subconscious. huh.gif
rainbow_serpent
QUOTE (Babs @ Feb 5 2004, 09:24 PM)
I think this ability comes from us.What is it?...ENERGY. Some sort of energy...some people say it is your subconscious. huh.gif

That doesen't sound very scientific.

I think this ability comes from us.What is it?...ENERGY. Some sort of energy...some people say it is your subconscious. huh.gif

That doesen't sound very scientific.
Babs
It isn't scientific; it's my opinion.

Except, I'm not sure about the subconscious...I've read that and people have said that to me. dontgetit.gif

What do you think about the subconscious?
joc
Hey RS,

I think alot of what you hear can be attributed to your ear problem.
Things like paper moving can be attributed to the fan or air-conditioning
coming on. The fan coming on by itself could be a faulty switch or just
plain old forgetfullness on your part due to the stress in your family life.
As well as the missing object. I am forever laying something down and then
suddenly 'it is gone' poof into thin air only later to find it right where I had
put it. Memory is a funny thing. thumbsup.gif
RoadMaster04
I'm a firm beleaver in Poltergeist
Last nite I witnesed the nob on my gas heater turn its self off not once but three times. I was hoping that it would not do anything to me as I was turning it on again and again it was quite unnerving to say the least.

Hang in there in your house.

As for me I'm out of here as soon as i can get another place
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