Was happy and somewhat surprised to see my hometown Arizona Wildcats upset no. 2 ranked Oregon Thursday night. Didn't help Oregon that their Heismann candidate QB went out with an injury. While the UA team has struggled the past few seasons they've had a habit of pulling off upsets over highly ranked teams in the month of November under the current coach.

It's been a crazy season but more so exciting!! I would have never thought Arkansa would
beat LSU Last night..

Rich Rodriguez to Michigan is a GREAT move and a step in the right direction for the program. Bringing one of the godfathers of the spread offense to AA will not only bring Michigan's offense to life, but will provide them the opportunity to practice against that spread offense they've struggled against.

One name Michigan fans should remember: Terrelle Pryor. Troy Smith put us through Hell, but imagine what will happen if Michigan land this dude (great chance). He's basically Vince Young with a better arm. Nothing but revenge against those damn Buckeyes IMO.

Florida's going to beat Michigan down, but after that better days are coming!

how have i missed this thread haha

looks like im the only SEC. fan boy here. growing up in south louisiana right in the shadow of tiger stadium i bleed purple and gold...cant wait for the game geauuuuux TIGERS FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT..

tHE SEC is the best conference

WHAT A PERFORMANCE by Michigan to beat Florida in the Capital One Bowl. Overcame 4 turnovers (which would've probably made Michigan's win even larger) to win in the last 4 or so minutes, 41-35. The offense played like they were supposed to this season and the defense held Tebow (who I honestly thought would be beasting all over us) in check.

Arrington's catches were absolutely SICK.

Urban Meyer's bowl record WAS 4-0 prior to this game.

Rich Rodriguez must've had SOMETHING to do with the gameplan.

Go Blue!!

(P.S. Michigan is like 23-5-1 all-time vs. the SEC )

Nice stat

and the crowd goes wild, .. lol,

LOl i hope this is a good game. not a blow out.

It should of been LSU vs USC instead. Ohio State was just unbearable to watch after the first quarter.

Sorry Buckeye fans...

Congrats to LSU. At least one Michigan Man can beat Ohio State...

Lol.. Congragulations LSU

the first quater was the hardest thing to watch as a tiger fan,,but thankfully for us they settled down and got the job done...glen dorsey is from my town and went to my rivel high school he was a major factor in stoping osu run,,that guy is a animal if he wasnt making the tackels he was blocking the hole for someone else to make the stop..

ona side note i feel for the osu fans they had to be a crushing blow..i could only imagine going 2yrs in a row and loosing like that..im not gonna rag on osu like ive seen others on the net do,altho i will say alot of OHIO fans asked for it talking so much trash,,,,,,i respect the players hope yall get a break soon,,(just not agaisnt my tigers hahah)


and i think its funny to hear the other teams talk about being hated on,,,because for the most part they hate the sec. they hate the fact that we win they want the big,and pac to dominate,,i can promise you they didnt want LSU to win..all during the game they never said how good LSU was doing all they would say was what OSU needed to do to win,and they held out hope untill the 4th even after 24 unanswerd points...

I'm kinda glad Michigan beat Florida, cause if they diddn't, why would there be a need for ANY Big-Ten team to show up to a bowl game against an SEC team next year? The athletes up north simply CANNOT be that much slower than the athletes in the south....can they?

You can go from the year 2000 to present for National Champions, and you get:

2007: LSU

2006: Florida

2005: Texas

2004: USC

2003: USC/LSU

2002: Ohio St.

2001: Miami

2000: Oklahoma

See a trend?

i dont think the players are better because they arnt all from the south,i think its the programs and style of game play the sec has..the speed of most of the defences are unreal,and most teams offences are so multi teared,,if your a one trick pony in the sec,,,ie only the run or only the pass youll loose becasue the other teams are all ready adjusted and know how to shut you down by game 2 of the season..look what LSU did to ND heisman trophy candidate,,haha he never hit the ground and missed so many passes in his life,,he also never went against a SEC rush....it just seems like a faster paced game in the SEC maybe because we dont play in the snow haha

I would agree if there wasn't such a disparity, and if the game of football wasn't such a copycat sport. Are you gonna try and convince me that the pro-style offense they're running at LSU or Georgia or Tennessee or any other school in the south is any more sophisticated than what they're doing at Ohio State or Michigan or UCLA or USC or any other Pac-10 or Big-Ten school? I will concede that scheme has something to do with it, it would be irresponsible to suggest otherwise, but the majority of the reason is the athletes. I've seen kids from Fla, GA, AL, TN, LA, and TX, who were either not offered a scholarship to a school from the south or decided to go play away from home be bigtime stars of they're respective college teams, some of those kids being only the 5th or 6th best player of they're high school teams. My question is why?

Carr was a conservative play-caller. Kinda like MartyBall for SD, there was CarrBall for UofM. Our offense could be brilliant at any time, but the playcalling limited that. To prove there is no difference between the skills of players in the Big-Ten and the SEC, Carr finally came "out of the shell" during the bowl game against Florida, and won.

The difference between the Big-Ten and the SEC is not the players, but the playcalling. UofM and OSU playcalling is very different from that of Florida, LSU, Oregon, USC, etc. We don't run the spread, or have a speedy defense. The Big-Ten plays gruelling, smashmouth football. This doesn't make us any worse...remeber, OSU was in the top 3 defenses in the nation, and over the last few years UofM has also had a very good defense (except maybe this year).

So, your of the opinion that, given the same kind of offensive setup, and the same kind of play-calling, with athletes from the southern region on one team, and athletes from the northern region on another, if they played eath other 10 times there would be a split right down the middle in terms of wins and losses?

I would be curious to see if there are statistics on the # of NFL players who played they're high school ball in the south(from Texas east down to Florida), and what that % would be. I'ma go see if I can look that up.

I found this article about Mississippi being voted "The Best Football State" in 2006(it's a bit hard to follow they're criteria, but this IS from 2006, so it's subject to growth, IMO), this is just a bit of it:



Link

Again, how CURRENT that is, I can't say with any kind of certainty, so I'ma do a little more digging. See what you can find out Frogfish, there's gotta be some better data out there to help us come to a conclusion.

Ah, I partially misunderstood you. I also agree that players from the south are for whatever reason, on average "better". The football teams again on average (HS and College) are better and there are more NFL players from the south, I believe...but I will say there is no difference between players from the Big-Ten and the SEC. Both conferences recruit and attract players from all over the nation, and there are some damn good players up north... There's a reason that OSU and UofM have been perennial powerhouse football teams.

Here's some links Onyx:
http://www.usafootball.com/press-box/press....php?&id=49
http://sports.ign.com/articles/451/451209p1.html (I think this one is good, but tis from 2003)

i am biased being a SEC man,,,but what about the level of the playing field...are there more power house teams in the SEC then the BIG-10 i think so,,thats why the same 2 teams seem to come out ahead of that confrence when any given year in the SEC is that teams year,,be it florida,bama,LSU,tenn any of them.

but as far as 2006 goes more players were drafted into the NFL but its not as big of a gap as you would think

http://alabama.scout.com/2/576126.html

The Southeastern Conference had 266 of its former football student-athletes on 2006 National Football League opening weekend rosters, more than any other conference in the nation.

The Atlantic Coast Conference was second with 247 while the Big Ten was third with 236, Pac-10 fourth with 184 and the Big 12 was fifth with 174 of its former student-athletes on NFL rosters.

Of the 12 SEC institutions, Tennessee had the most former student-athletes on NFL rosters with 40 followed by Georgia with 39, Florida with 35, LSU with 31, Auburn with 27 and South Carolina with 20.

Alabama had 19 of its former student-athletes on NFL opening weekend rosters followed by Mississippi State with 17, Ole Miss with 15, Arkansas with 11, Vanderbilt with eight and Kentucky with four.

Miami (Fla.) led the nation with 42 of its former student-athletes on NFL



theres also this........

http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/in....xml&coll=2

Ranking shows NFL's best players cultivated in SEC
Wednesday, September 05, 2007
Every spring the SEC boasts of its record number of players selected in the NFL draft. There may be a way to gauge which college conference is producing the best NFL players.

Last week, Sports Illustrated writer Peter King ranked current NFL players from 1 to 500. Analyzing the numbers by conference shows, not surprisingly, the SEC is the most productive. And reconfirms some stereotypes of conferences.

The SEC could field a three-deep on offense and defense from King's rankings. No other conference has a two-deep.

.....writer seems to agree with me........
But the Big East is too top heavy and lacks depth.

Anxiously awaiting Terrelle Pryor's decision in February.

Are you kidding me? I'm a Notre Dame fan, lets forget that this stupid season ever existed!!!

Do you think Notre Dame recruiting took a big hit?

Notre Dame is highly overrated in my opinion.. Charlie Weis is a " Nice" Offensive head coach..
I'll give him credit for the last 2 seasons before this dredful season.. I like his coaching style but
That defense needs major work!!

From what I've been reading, The Irish are putting together a top-ten recruiting class this year, but even a top recruiting class dosen't guarantee a winning program.

GO PSU!!!!!!!

Bump.

Obviously I am disappointed that we didn't get Pryor. Damn Buckeyes are a STANDARD of excellence.

I'm looking forward to at least beating them on the field...in like 3 years. *Sigh*

Let's go Texas!!