This has been a year of upsets... to say the least. I am a little upset with the rankings system though. How can USC fall to an unranked team and not drop out of the top ten, but WVU lost to a top 20 team and drops to 13... I don't know. Anyways. Anyone have any predictions about the finish, next top team to fall, or just general discussion about the subject...?

USC should of fell into the 20s...

Michigan will come back and win the Big Ten!

Oh snap Kentucky over LSU!

I know, that is sooooo great. Im pumped out of my mind. Now only if Cal and Ohio State can take a tumble... WVU needs to get back up to the top.

Highly unlikely...... Have you heard anything else about Hart's injury? ESPN didn't say anything in much detail about it outside of it was just an ankle injury. Ohio State is going to be setting pretty after both LSU and Cal not taking care of business yesterday. LSU is a very good team with a good defense, but why isn't anyone noticing Ohio State? They've only given up 46 points all year so far. All I can say is it's going to be one hell of a game when the Buckeyes and Wolverines lock up in November. Michigan better hope Hart isn't hurt. And I agree that USC isn't deserving of a top 20 ranking. Stanford was what, a 41 point underdog? Yes, the ranking system is pretty much a joke. I don't think Southern Cal could knock off South Florida, and the rest of the top 5 would humiliate them. John David Booty isn't Leinart or Palmer. I was pulling for West Virginia to run the table, but they really needed that South Florida win. This season is the best in years, many years.

Hart will be back for next Saturday. He walked off under his own power and was walking around the sidelines with no brace or anything 10 minutes later. he's a fast healer and a tought guy. He'll be out on the field next week.

impossible!

Bucks will win the big ten!

Let's see...

ahhh too bad USF goes down

Hi fives to a fellow Buckeye fan.... I don't think I've ever seen a number one ranked team get so little attention. Maybe that's a good thing. I don't think USF deserves to drop out of the top ten, being as how USC managed to stay there for the week after their loss to Stanford.

I was hoping for a USF/BC Nat'l Championship....Oh well

Have ya heard this one?

How many batteries does it take to kill a wolverine?

One double A!

LMFAO Even though I live in Ohio, the official land of wolverine bashing, I've never heard that before. Good one.

#2 BC with the comeback two TD's in the final 4 minutes breaking the #2 losing streak! Damn these onside kicks must drive coaches insane, that player #2 on the VA team that muffed the recovery I would cut him if I were a coach.

Looks like Ohio State will end-up #1 until the end of the regular season, and if BC remains #2, I don't see how The Buckeyes aren't hoisting The National Championship Trophy at the seasons end....unless they tank it.

I hope so. I'm not going to say anything for certain, because Ohio State still has some tough tasks ahead of them, tonight at Penn State, always a tough place to play. Not to mention Wisconsin and the biggest one of all, at Ann Arbor in a few weeks. It's looking good in the Buckeye state so far.

Lloyd Carr has finally opened up the Michigan offense a bit. He let Henne get in a rythym (before he got hurt again) throwing the ball against Illinois and as a result Chad had a really good game. If Michigan do this more often (maybe even get the tight ends involved in the passing game) things will look up.

The key = aggression.

Seriously only in College football!

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/...08&n8pe6c=2

Another one goes down! 3 more to go and the bucks back in the title game! Wisky this week will be a hard win, but at least we got them at home.

Bucks#1

Hi Killer Bee! Its always good to see another fellow buckeye fan!

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The boy had a history of being beaten by his parents and the judge initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping with child custody law and regulations requiring that family unity be maintained to the degree possible. The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his aunt beat him more than his parents and he adamantly refused to live with her. When the judge then suggested that he live with his grandparents, the boy cried out that they also beat him.

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We are strong, my friend. Hopefully, in early january we can get on here and chat about another national championship for the Buckeyes. It's looking GREAT for them so far, but there's still work to be done......

I'm a Boilermaker by birth, legacy, education, former employment, my husband works there now and I'm a current season ticket/parking pass holder and OSU and MU both wiped the field up with our asses.

Even if we manage to take out Joe Pa and PSU our season is still unremarkable at best.

It would be so sweet to upset Ohio State this year. November 17th!

Hi timbeau0805,
I will save any comments about "that team up north" until that week of. As KillerBee has said we have alot of business to take care of before that game. Whisky first....and then Ill. But good luck to mich with the rest of the season and I look forward to November 17th showdown!

Here's an interesting question: We know what the BCS rankings say, but which team do YOU think is the best in the country?

I think it's LSU.

Not to disrespect the Buckeyes fans or anything, Ohio State is having a great year so far...but you better be careful when you make the Appalachian State jokes, just in case the Buckeyes lose to Michigan and you all look like fools

LSU is a good choice. I would have to go with Oregon. That win of USC was a good one and dixon is playing really good football. Plus those ducks put a "stomping" on Mich, so I'm alittle swayed. But LSU could certainly be the best team right now.

LSU also has an absolutley brutal schedule, also. Florida, Auburn, Kentucky, it seems like for the past few weeks, they have had to play literally all top schools. I agree, LSU is probably the best, because of the schedule. Although, I won't be like a lot of the sports writers and claim that Ohio State is overrated. They are a very solid football team, all the way around, and with a hellacious defense. If both Ohio State and LSU can run the table and BC takes a loss, then I think that they will be playing for a nationl championship trophy in January. That would be one Hell of a game, two of the best defenses against two good offenses.

Stay humble OSU fans!

I agree Ohio State and LSU would be a great game. They match up very well against each other. Those sports- writers that spew that garbage that the bucks are overrated are simply haters! They are all eagerly waiting for the other shoe to drop, and then say "See we told you....They are not that good! The BIG X is weak!" Anyone one with even the slightest football knowledge can see that they are a very good team on every side of the ball. But its OK, let them keep on hating, while the bucks keep on winning. Those same "great minded" sports-writers need to remember...this was supposed to be a rebuilding years for us, but yet here we are, right in the chase for another NC shot.

Michigan vs. MSU! Go Blue!

Javon who?

You can't discount a team in a major conference that wins all of their games in the regular season, no matter how up or down the conference is, IMO, I saw it for years when The Hurricanes were in The Big East, they would run over just about everyone in the conference every year, and maybe lose a game out of conference. That's one reason I would have LOVED to see The University of South Florida run the table, just to see how the national media would have attempted to screw them....especially given the landscape of college football today, how could you possibly deny a team whose beaten(at that time) other nationally-ranked teams...and is undefeated...a shot at the national title when it's all said and done? But at the same time, how could you deny a one-loss team like LSU that playes in the toughest conference in America(and therefore, the toughest schedule) a shot? *Sighs* Alas, we shall never know.

27-13 Michigan, but believe me...the final will be no indication of how close it is, Michigan's gonna kill 'em!

And regarding OSU again, the more and more I watch Wells run the more impressed I am. Kid is by far the second best back in the Big 10 if not the best (we got a little guy by the name of Mike Hart ) and definitely one of the best in the country. He's really the only problem I see for Michigan's defense...

You couldn't have said it any better. This has been my problem with the BCS since it's beginning. A team like South Florida would have done what Utah did a few years ago, or even Boise State did last year. Did conference or supposed strength of schedule matter whan the Broncos shocked Oklahoma last year in Arizona? Every time one of these "non-BCS" schools make to a big bowl in January, it shows just how much the BCS system is a joke. Every year the college football is riddled with the traditional powerhouse schools getting KO'd by an unknown. This year is no different. If the BCS is to stay instead of trying something else different, they need to make it so not just certain conferences get automatic bids, because these former "weaker" schools aren't going away. IMO, if South Florida would have gone undefeated and everyone else would have suffered 1 or more losses, they would have deserved to play for the national championship in January.....I don't care how tough ANYONE'S schedule was or which traditional powerhouse names would have been eliminated.

Christ, losing to NC State on the road, UM has reached a new low, not to mention that Kirby Freeman looks like he's better served to be running down on punt and kickoff coverage than under center for The Canes, they can't graduate him fast enough. Randy Shannon has a scholarship for this year and possibly the next two as well, but if things don't turn around soon, and as much as I like Randy, there's gonna be a serious mutiny in Coral Gables.

It's nice that the best high school team in the nation(Miami Northwestern) has about 4-5 major recruits that have made oral commitments to The U, those kids will need at least 2 years to really show what they can do, but it's a promising sign that Randy has been able to reacquire an edge in recruiting in one of the best..if not THE best...college football recruiting areas in the nation.

That whisky game had me worried for awhile! Thank goodness for Beanie Wells! Two games left!

Ok, what part of opening up the offense and being aggressive does Lloyd Carr not understand? Michigan wouldn't have fallen behind by 10 with 7 mins left if they weren't so stagnant on offense. That being said, Chad Henne, with one arm and one leg, was a warrior leading back the Wolverines to win. And that play with Ringer/Crable was INSANE.

I’m going to the WVU vs. Louisville game on Thursday. An official gold out has been called to all in the stands. It should be a good game. A passing QB vs. a running QB and the spread offense. Lets Go EER’s!!

I saw flashes of Braylon Edwards in Super Mario Manningham...

I'm just waiting to see where Mr. Manningham will be playing after his Michigan career is over. He has all of the potential to do some serious damage to some defenses in the NFL. This is coming from a loyal Buckeye fan....

I dunno, If you look at the draft history of Michigan WR's drafted high, you don't find many success stories, Braylon Edwards is only NOW starting to live up to his lofty draft status, but I guess it's better late than never. I just hope Manningham actually gets drafted by a team that has a decent QB, something that...admittedly...Braylon Edwards diddn't have.

I agree with you, but Super Mario definitley has an abundance in talent...just like Braylon Edwards. I hope he doesn't go real high in the draft. Then someone other than the Jets, Bears, Cardinals or 49ers will get their shot. But then again, St. Louis is looking like next years candidate for the first overall pick and could you imagine Manningham learning the NFL style from Tori Holt and Issac Bruce?

Man, Derek Anderson and Braylon have it going real good! Edwards and Anderson will both be Pro Bowlers this year! I think Anderson should get the nod over Roethlisberger...

Terrell Davis was a bust in the NFL, never living up to his fantastic plays at UorM. I think if Manningham gets a good Offense and QB, he'll be lethal.

I personally think he's better than LSU's Doucet...or whatever his name is...

LOL, it could be St. Louis, New York, or Miami at this point, and of the three, I think St. Louis will be the first to get a win. Down here, the joke around town is The Jets beat The Fins in they're 1st meeting...and for they're only win so far this year....wouldn't it be funny as hell if later this year when they play again, The Fins get they're first..and only...win against The Jets?

I think Long will be a top-10 pick and go before Manningham, anyway, Hart my go before him, as well.

Long will be the first UofM player gone in the Draft. Definitely in top 3 linemen in the nation.

Hart will go late 1 or early 2, as many people STILL have problems with his size, even though I think he's the best pure runner in the draft.

Manningham still has a year to prove himself (his SR year), so we'll have to see if his stock rises and if he can beat out Doucet.

WVU won again last night and I bet they still stay the same in the polls or move down. There is some kind of anti-WVU thing going on in the voting and I don’t like it. Even an announcer on ESPN called it a conspiracy... Someone wrote in with the question --Why is it that every time WVU wins they stay the same or move down, yet other teams move ahead with a weaker schedule?-- The announcer agreed that WVU is not getting the respect they deserve. It seems to me that the rankings are still being swayed by biases that involve a team’s past triumph and not their current toughness of schedule or abilities. I know that is a generalization and there are some exceptions, but does anyone else feel this way?

Outside of being a loyal Buckeye fan, I also am a HUGE WVU fan. I do see a conspiracy when it comes to West Virginia not only this year, but the past few. I'm not going to take anything away from Kansas, but does dropping 76 points on Nebraska really show how tough they are? Nebraska is becoming the perverbial doormat in the Big 12. I give them credit for still being unbeaten and they are having an outstanding season, but any other team ahead of them and a few behind them(including the Mountaineers) would wipe the field with them. In my opinion, the Big East is tougher than anyone gives it credit for....granted, it isn't as tough as the SEC, but it is still a difficult conference to win, with HUGE games and quite a few dominant teams getting upset at key times. So, how can anyone look at the Big 12 and think it's any more dominant than or difficult than the Big East? Outside of maybe Oklahoma, who else is there? However, I do think that WV stubbing their toe against South Florida has hurt them, but not enough for this kind of bias against their rankings. South Florida, even though they have kind of fell apart, is still a very solid football team.

Going to the Rose Bowl!!!!