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Archaeologists say they are fighting back against 'crackpots'.
Noah's Ark. The Ark of the Covenant. The Garden of Eden. Sodom and Gomorrah. The Exodus. The Lost Tomb of Jesus. All have been "found" in the last 10 years, including one within the past six months. The discoverers: a former SWAT team member; an investigator of ghosts, telepathy, and parapsychology; a filmmaker who calls himself "The Naked Archeologist"; and others, none of whom has any professional training in archeology.

We are living in a time of exciting discoveries in biblical archeology. We are also living in a time of widespread biblical fraud, dubious science, and crackpot theorizing. Some of the highest-profile discoveries of the past several years are shadowed by accusations of forgery, such as the James Ossuary, which may or may not be the burial box of Jesus' brother, as well as other supposed Bible-era findings such as the Jehoash Tablet and a small ivory pomegranate said to be from the time of Solomon. Every year "scientific" expeditions embark to look for Noah's Ark, raising untold amounts of money from gullible believers who eagerly listen to tales spun by sincere amateurs or rapacious con men; it is not always easy to tell the two apart

Interesting article here http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/fauxark/
SunDogDayze
Awesome article. I just don't think much is going to change. There will always be those crackpots who are on a mission consisting of solely disproving or proving events from the bible, or just out to get some notoriety and a hefty check. When and if actual unbiased archaeologists and scientists (which might be a rarity itself) start going public debunking these claims, the public will have a better chance of determining which 'findings' are legit and which ones are fables. Until then, it's going to be hard to believe any of the recent claims.
Darkwind
Thanks, that was a good article. It is too bad so much money goes into pseudo Archaeology.
secondhand
Damn right. I'mn an archaeologist, got a degree and everything. Shouldn't have bothered, should have just read the Da Vinci Code.
BELOWIM
Yeah gotta agree, Probably should'nt say this, But can't help myself, it's about TIME we got our head's Above bible's And Man written book's and started EXamining thing's for what they are truely are, Evidence Is and should be studied/strutinized Beyond skeptisism and openly displayed, O.K. there are many fake's and forgerie's/ not hard to pick, but to stand aside and let the history/ the true history be thrown/cast aside is sacrilage to our self's and future self's, O.K. There are those people who totally think/assume we all grew outta some one celled organism?? PLease Explain your Darwiniam Proof's. ? Know U know secret's Won't be kep't And Mysterie's won't remain, SEEK and Uncover..............I,m doing my Part, what are you doing?????????
questionmark
QUOTE (secondhand @ Oct 19 2007, 11:43 PM) *
Damn right. I'mn an archaeologist, got a degree and everything. Shouldn't have bothered, should have just read the Da Vinci Code.


Wrong, you've should have written the Da Vinci Code or the chariot of the gods or....

As long as people don't realize that von Däniken or Sitchin are nothing more than loudmouth fakes the situation won't change.

SoulFire
QUOTE (secondhand @ Oct 19 2007, 08:43 PM) *
Damn right. I'mn an archaeologist, got a degree and everything. Shouldn't have bothered, should have just read the Da Vinci Code.



L O L laugh.gif - tru dat, if you would have written it, you could pay off your student loans with the procedes.

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here within, is my problem. these days, the believers & skeptics (archeology, egyptology, biology, ufology, ect.) are soo damn passionate about what they believe & can present such strong arguements for their position on it, it makes it very difficult for your average person (like myself) to have a clue about what is real. it's sooooo frustrating ! ! ! ! ! i change my opinion regularly. the more i search for the truth - the more i become confused about it. it's rediculous angry.gif. i just want to know the truth (about everything) eventually. whatever that "truth" is - i'm fine with it. however, everytime i think i "know" something - someone else comes along with "breaking news" or "a new theory" or "whatever". ya know??? most people believe what their parents taught them to believe, or what they were taught in school to believe, or whatever. very few people believe what they believe because of 1st hand experience or actual "proof". therefore, it becomes kinda like a game. you have to "choose" what you believe. therefore, your beliefs become "theories" or "opinions". when does it end? will it ever end???
questionmark
QUOTE (klc9100 @ Oct 20 2007, 02:57 AM) *
very few people believe what they believe because of 1st hand experience or actual "proof". therefore, it becomes kinda like a game. you have to "choose" what you believe. therefore, your beliefs become "theories" or "opinions". when does it end? will it ever end???


the point is that science is not a question of believe, it is a question of facts and proof. If people want to believe in something they should go to church, and if that is not good enough then create their own religion.

SoulFire
QUOTE (questionmark @ Oct 20 2007, 03:07 PM) *
the point is that science is not a question of believe, it is a question of facts and proof. If people want to believe in something they should go to church, and if that is not good enough then create their own religion.


i know what you're saying. what i mean is, there are scientists that claim something as fact. then there are other scientists that claim the opposite as fact. therefore, it's back to you having to decide which scientists you believe. see what i'm saying? different scientists & different disciplines of science view information & discoveries differently. they interprete proof differently.
Harte
QUOTE (klc9100 @ Oct 20 2007, 10:28 AM) *
i know what you're saying. what i mean is, there are scientists that claim something as fact. then there are other scientists that claim the opposite as fact. therefore, it's back to you having to decide which scientists you believe. see what i'm saying? different scientists & different disciplines of science view information & discoveries differently. they interprete proof differently.

This is apparently a misunderstanding.

Scientists only claim observed data as "fact." Their explanations or models that explain these data are called "theories."

Some scientists may hold one theory concerning a particular set of "facts" while another may have a very different theory modeling those same facts.

But neither scientist ever will refer to his theory as "fact."

Harte
jaylemurph
QUOTE (klc9100 @ Oct 20 2007, 11:28 AM) *
i know what you're saying. what i mean is, there are scientists that claim something as fact. then there are other scientists that claim the opposite as fact. therefore, it's back to you having to decide which scientists you believe. see what i'm saying? different scientists & different disciplines of science view information & discoveries differently. they interprete proof differently.


Of course, if you take the time to learn the facts and the different methods to interpret them and then use them, it doesn't become a matter of whom you choose to believe.
Of course, that takes time and effort away from the internet, so most people around here could never be bothered. They just as soon claim all science is bunk because they don't know any better.

--Jaylemurph
BELOWIM
Now that's Academic. yes.gif
SoulFire
QUOTE (BELOWIM @ Oct 20 2007, 04:41 PM) *
Now that's Academic. yes.gif


yes.gif yep
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