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BELOWIM
Cold Fusion,In 1989 Stanley Pon's and Martin Fleishman announced there discovery http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.11/coldfusion.html Is it possible that Einstein's E=mc2,where c is light that this is the answer to todays and the future Energy need's.Non polluting ,enviromentally safe, At the moment considered a phoenomenom, will fusion at ambient temperature's soon replace fossil fuel's? Experiment's currently underway foresee the potential to provide inexhaustable clean Energy without pollution. A chemical process is used to trigger a reaction to produce Energy.http://www.padrak.com/ine/WACF.html
BELOWIM
,Ha the word Phenomenon, Excited, betrayed you!?!? Quick Answer!?!?
Ins0mniac
QUOTE (BELOWIM @ Oct 22 2007, 04:27 AM) *
,Ha the word Phenomenon, Excited, betrayed you!?!? Quick Answer!?!?


Huh?

wtf...
DieChecker
There is no such thing as free energy, so even if they invent cold fusion there is going to have to be energy paid into it somehow, either chemically or naturally. If the materials used are natural, then I'm sure the resouce would not last very long.

Solar and Wind power combined with high efficency batteries (or hydrogen fuel cells) are how the future will be powered.
Ins0mniac
QUOTE (DieChecker @ Oct 22 2007, 09:30 PM) *
There is no such thing as free energy, so even if they invent cold fusion there is going to have to be energy paid into it somehow, either chemically or naturally. If the materials used are natural, then I'm sure the resouce would not last very long.

Solar and Wind power combined with high efficency batteries (or hydrogen fuel cells) are how the future will be powered.


That's right. There's definitely no such thing as free energy. But within single atoms there is a heck of a lot of energy if you can access it, as Einstein discovered.

It's nuclear. It gets it's power at a nuclear level. It doesn't consume normal chemical fuel. It's a bit like the currently used "nuclear fission" but without the nuclear waste left over. It requires fuel but nowhere near as much as a conventional power plant that just burns it's fuel. And I believe it's fuel is hydrogen? They often extract it from water I think.

Solar and wind farms usually back something like 3% of what a conventional power plant does. It's just not going to cut it alone. Not unless there is vast improvements in the technology.
dest_titor1
I love the idea of cold fusion you know they have achieved it on small scales small bits of thorium plutonium, fired with a lower energy laser and fusing the hydrogen atoms of h30, but if we could create artificial gravity I would be ecstatic creating mini hydrogen stars, sending large amounts of highly compressed hydrogen then creating highly forced gravity, making a kind of mini sun fusion lasting maybe seconds at best but making massive amounts of power

nuclear reactors are dangerous but I think cold fusion and hot fusion energy is worth it.
BELOWIM
dest titor1"if we could create artificial gravity I would be ecstatic" A preliminary glance/ study show's that we have indeed defeated Gravity, it's on film for all the world to see.. And your one smart person! dest titor!, good on ya..
Ins0mniac
QUOTE (BELOWIM @ Oct 23 2007, 12:56 PM) *
dest titor1"if we could create artificial gravity I would be ecstatic" A preliminary glance/ study show's that we have indeed defeated Gravity, it's on film for all the world to see.. And your one smart person! dest titor!, good on ya..


Care to provide more info on that?
BELOWIM
Yes InsOmniac, google anti gravity and see for yourself, oH! and some of those people arn't me!?
Ins0mniac
QUOTE (BELOWIM @ Oct 23 2007, 09:47 PM) *
Yes InsOmniac, google anti gravity and see for yourself, oH! and some of those people arn't me!?



Well I did a quick search of Wikipedia and as I suspected, it suggests it's merely a hypothetical idea often used in science fiction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_gravity

Scientists aren't even sure what causes gravity. There are a few theories they argue over.

Unless you mean the use of opposing forces to counter gravity? Or the illusion of a zero-g environment caused by planes dropping altitude very quickly. Or some conspiracy theory?
BELOWIM
InsOmniac, get out of WikI, Search, you,ve got the whole W.W.W.???
Ins0mniac
QUOTE (BELOWIM @ Oct 23 2007, 11:00 PM) *
InsOmniac, get out of WikI, Search, you,ve got the whole W.W.W.???


Well I can't find any credible sources. Apart from one news article about the news of magnetism to counter the effects of gravity. But it doesn't get rid of gravity as such. And it needs different configurations for different object densities.
BELOWIM
InsOmniac, Magnetism doe's in it self defie Gravity, go google Anti Gravity an lOOk at film's, It,s About" FIELD"S" cheer's!..
BELOWIM
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/print/1258 I can see you have a genuine interest in this subject, I am also researching and conducting experiment,s. An interesting sideline here is some of the work Wilhelm Reitch conducted! Also of interest is a little device named the joe cell, (google) I have also seen interesting feature's there too.. The subject of Orgone Energy is a bit touchy at the best, but quite possible, and crosses into other area's..
BELOWIM
Spelling above was wrong, Reich, oop's. http://www.orgone.org/articles/ax9kelley1a.htm It can be manipulated and controlled by orgone energy devices. Perhaps the first orgone energy device was the "bacquet" of Mesmer, a crude but apparently effective form of orgone energy accumulator. Reich developed several devices for the control of orgone energy. The best known of these is the orgone energy accumulator. The accumulator is an enclosure formed by a layered arrangement of metallic and non-metallic materials which result in a concentration of energy within the enclosure. Of equal significance is Reich's weather control apparatus, a type of directional antenna that makes it possible to withdraw large amounts of orgone energy from a region of the atmosphere. Used properly, this apparatus can trigger large changes in the weather."Experiment XX." Experiment XX is done with clear "bion" water, an orgone energy-charged water obtained by mixing and boiling water and soil and filtering the solution. This clear solution is sterilized under pressure and kept in sterile containers, some of which are frozen. On thawing, these still sterile solutions show flakes of matter, which upon microscopic examination contain forms with the characteristics of living cells; i. e. , pulsation, spontaneous movement, and reproduction. Experiment XX has been repeated successfully by many individuals, including the biologist Dr. Bernard Grad of McGill University. Dr. Grad, after carefully confirming Reich's results. Oranur Experiment. Another of Reich Is remarkable experiments involved the introduction of nuclear energy in the form of radioactive material into strong fields of orgone energy.2 The result was an extraordinarily severe widespread atmospheric reaction that, once started, raged out of control for months. It resulted in a dangerous increase in the "background" radiation level, as measured by several different Geiger counters, over an area thousands of times greater than the area affected by the relatively small amounts of radioactive material the experiment involved. The results are completely inexplicable in terms of traditional physics. ?????.....
BELOWIM
The experimental evidence was gathered, not by one, but by several
well-qualified scientists of unquestionable integrity. Reich's apparatus is surely one of the remarkable inventions of all time. Are they true ? I believe that I am in an especially good position to evaluate these claims, because I was for nearly three years a weather forecaster in the Air Force and because I have worked experimentally with the Reich apparatus for many years". This is Real and I warn anybody Experimenting to be Aware of what they are doing, carefull Research should be undertaken!!..Dr. Bernard Grad repeated and confirmed Reich's "Experiment XX;" who has refuted it? "I repeated and confirmed his weather control experiments; who has refuted these? The fact is, despite (and partly because) of the ridicule, defamation, and attempts by the orthodox to "bury" Reich and orgonomy, there is no counter evidence to his experiments in any scientific publication, much less a systematic refutation of the volumes of scientific work which support his position.Orgone energy is not studied seriously by most scientists because scientists, like other people, suffer from the mass biological disorder which Reich described in detail, and which forms perhaps his greatest contribution to science.Perhaps enough has been covered to show how predominant forces in our civilization are by their nature in opposition to the orgone energy concept. It will hardly be sufficient to show how deep-seated and powerful these forces are, nor to show the extreme hatred and fear that can arise from them; this is hard to believe until it is experienced personally, but to the skeptic, let me remind him that Reich's publications were burned and banned on the flimsiest of pretexts by an agency of the United States Government",. http://www.orgone.org/articles/ax9kelley1a.htm I believe we are on the threshold of a change.!?!..
BELOWIM
Here's some interesting reading, large scale. http://observer.guardian.co.uk/life/story/...,416412,00.html
BELOWIM
Twenty researchers from seven countries had successfully replicated the original Fleischmann-Pons experiment. In their recently released report on the state of cold fusion research, New Energy Times investigators Steven Krivit and Nadine Winocur reported that, since 1989, almost 15,000 cold fusion experiments have been performed, and within the last several years, the effects claimed by Fleischmann and Pons have been reproduced at rates ranging between 83 and 100 percent. One well-known website on cold fusion, lenr-canr.org, features an on-line library of more than 280 original scientific papers that are linked to a bibliography of nearly 3,000 journal papers, news articles and books about cold fusion. http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2004...usionDogma.html "He pointed to repeated experiments showing a correlation between heat and the presence of helium 4, a bi-product of nuclear fusion. This hypothesis predicts that where there is a strong output of helium-4, excess heat will be present in amounts up to 24 megavolts per palladium atom. What was actually observed, according to McKubre, was the presence of excess heat in amounts ranging from 19 and 45 megavolts per atom of palladium. Cold fusion has thus the achieved a hallmark of a true science - predictability." In most scientific investigations, only one successful independent replication is necessary to demonstrate the validity of a phenomenon and satisfy the burden of proof that the phenomenon is real. The thousands of successful replications that have occurred around the world, the mountain of technical papers that precisely document the presence of excess heat and nuclear signatures, and not one but two valid working hypotheses should be enough to constitute “extraordinary” proof of cold fusion. Cold fusion’s detractors call themselves skeptics. But there is a real difference between skepticism in the true sense and the almost religious belief in scientific orthodoxy that masquerades as impartiality.To date, however, no refereed technical journal has presented a paper that completely and conclusively rebuts the cold fusion hypotheses or findings.
DogsHead
QUOTE (BELOWIM @ Oct 21 2007, 01:22 AM) *
Cold Fusion,In 1989 Stanley Pon's and Martin Fleishman announced there discovery http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.11/coldfusion.html Is it possible that Einstein's E=mc2,where c is light that this is the answer to todays and the future Energy need's.Non polluting ,enviromentally safe, At the moment considered a phoenomenom, will fusion at ambient temperature's soon replace fossil fuel's? Experiment's currently underway foresee the potential to provide inexhaustable clean Energy without pollution. A chemical process is used to trigger a reaction to produce Energy.http://www.padrak.com/ine/WACF.html

QUOTE
InsOmniac, Magnetism doe's in it self defie Gravity, go google Anti Gravity an lOOk at film's, It,s About" FIELD"S" cheer's!..

This is OT, but.... who is the real BELOWIM???
BELOWIM
DogsHead, "This is OT, but.... who is the real BELOWIM???" I,m not sure what OT is (maybe old thread?) or What? Your question is the best I,ve heard on this site, And my answer is That's for me to Know, and you to find out!?..But this is Cold Fusion, IT IS REAL, and being developed...
Ins0mniac
Well thanks for the info BELOWIM.


By the way, I was thinking OT means "off topic".

QUOTE (BELOWIM @ Oct 26 2007, 01:07 AM) *
Your question is the best I,ve heard on this site, And my answer is That's for me to Know, and you to find out!?


Hmmm. Very mysterious... Are you an undercover scientific genius? heheh.
BELOWIM
InsOmniac,"Hmmm. Very mysterious... Are you an undercover scientific genius? heheh" Glad you appreciated some new's YES I AM an UnDeRcOvEr AgEnT, LOL LOL, will report shortly on experiment's, but Knowingly, yes Is REAL, is COLD, is FUSION,!...
BELOWIM
http://pesn.com/2007/10/28/9500454_RasmussenHydrogenArson/ Advanced Hydrogen Research

For several years , Rasmussen and his team have been involved in leading-edge, high-efficiency hydroxy gas generation from water, with apparent additional energy being harvested from yet-to-be fully understood forces of nature. The method and rate of gas generation they have achieved is proprietary, but challenges what the pioneer electrolysis scientist, Michael Faraday predicted to be possible. Rasmussen's group is among a maverick set of researchers worldwide pursuing the ability to actually run vehicles on water via harnessing a yet mysterious energy force of nature.

Rasmussen is also a respected founding member of the New Energy Congress, which reviews various clean energy technology claims to identify the most promising of those, creating a Top 100 Clean Energy Technologies listing. (Ref.) He also runs an energy news, blog and talk show at http://www.commutefaster.com.


Not First Major Set-Back

A year ago we reported a situation in which a member of Rasmussen's research team was threatened at gunpoint. (Ref.) A technician was allegedly run off the road near a rural intersection and accosted by four white, middle-aged males in black suits, carrying Glocks and Mac tens. Using information which could only have been obtained by monitoring digital cell phones and e-mail, the assailants portrayed to the victim that they had total control over his personal life, and was told to remain silent and to not talk to government authorities. He was told that if he did not comply, a family member would be killed. The threat also included all associates if he did not stop work on the process immediately.Another situation involved a demonstration a couple of years ago of the technology to a potential financier with loads of money, who apparently did not expect the device to perform as claimed. When the person saw the device perform clearly to the specifications, his response was one of fear, and he backed out, because he did not want to "go up against Big Oil."In the first part of April, 2006, Bill Williams told a discussion list that he successfully tested a device known as the Joe Cell. It allegedly feeds off Orgone energy and uses electrically charged water as the "gate" or medium through which the aetheral energy is drawn from the surroundings and transferred to the automobile engine. He was in process of disclosing how he accomplished this when confronted on April 11 by two unidentified individuals who told him to cease all of his alternative energy work or there would be dire consequences. Williams complied, but others involved are doing all they can to make sure the information is republished and replicated widely. http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Bill_Williams'_Joe_Cell Navy report..> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7168
DieChecker
QUOTE (BELOWIM @ Oct 20 2007, 08:22 AM) *
Cold Fusion,In 1989 Stanley Pon's and Martin Fleishman announced there discovery http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.11/coldfusion.html Is it possible that Einstein's E=mc2,where c is light that this is the answer to todays and the future Energy need's.Non polluting ,enviromentally safe, At the moment considered a phoenomenom, will fusion at ambient temperature's soon replace fossil fuel's? Experiment's currently underway foresee the potential to provide inexhaustable clean Energy without pollution. A chemical process is used to trigger a reaction to produce Energy.http://www.padrak.com/ine/WACF.html

From the link
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High-tension lines run directly to the installation, but they don't take electricity out - they bring it in. For a few magic seconds in 1997, JET managed to return 60 percent of the energy it consumed, but that's the best it's ever done, and is typical of fusion experiments worldwide.


QUOTE (BELOWIM @ Oct 23 2007, 11:04 PM) *
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/print/1258 I can see you have a genuine interest in this subject, I am also researching and conducting experiment,s. An interesting sideline here is some of the work Wilhelm Reitch conducted! Also of interest is a little device named the joe cell, (google) I have also seen interesting feature's there too.. The subject of Orgone Energy is a bit touchy at the best, but quite possible, and crosses into other area's..

This link does not have anything substantial in it. The processes talked about either did not produce any extra energy or were non-repeatable. Plus it is eight years old. Where are these people and their technologies now?

There may be a mysterious force involved in your last link, but in order for it to power even one small city the devices needed with current techniques would be monsterously huge and take a lake full of water. I think there is possiblities with the sono-fusion, the sound based light/energy generation in water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_fusion

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