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cherrypine
Anyone read on the internet about some guy that has a box that he can communicate with the other world? I think it was Thomas Edison that supposedly was working on something like that in the past, I think.
_Nyx_
The Spiritualist faith had begun its revival shortly after World War I and in 1920, communication with the spirits became an obsession for one of the greatest scientists of all time, Thomas Alva Edison. Edison was a self-taught genius who believed that he could build anything if he had the right components to do it. Edison was an agnostic all of his life, never disputing the teachings of organized religion, but never embracing them either. He believed that somewhere in the universe was a great intelligence but he doubted that it had any interest in man. He claimed that when a person died, the body decayed, but the intelligence that it possessed lived on. He though the so-called "spirit world" was simply a limbo where disembodied intelligence waited to move on.

He took these beliefs one step further by announcing that he intended to device a means of communication with the spirit world. In October of 1920, an article appeared in American Magazine entitled "Edison Working to Communicate with the Next World". This was one of the many magazines who were trying to confirm that Edison was indeed attempting to communicate with the dead.

The Rest Of The Story
Emutanaha
Definately not real!
MasterPo
QUOTE (cherrypine @ Oct 21 2007, 09:28 PM) *
Anyone read on the internet about some guy that has a box that he can communicate with the other world? I think it was Thomas Edison that supposedly was working on something like that in the past, I think.


There are 2 devices I'm aware of that toute that claim.

First is the Spiritcom. Very elaborate. Supposedly works on cosmic frequencies and cycles. Very hard to explain. Do a look up on it. The jury is very much out about it.

The other is a "Frank's Box". It supposedly accesses lower frequencies of radio waves used by spirits and a sensativ/medium channels the messages. We were present at a demonstration of a Frank's Box this past spring. Wasn't impressed. We heard voices but way too low to be understood. Could easily have been normal radio chatter. We weren't allowed to use our instruments during the demo so to us it was only a show. Some people did supposedly get messages that upset them.
Veliska
QUOTE (MasterPo @ Oct 22 2007, 02:26 AM) *
There are 2 devices I'm aware of that toute that claim.

First is the Spiritcom. Very elaborate. Supposedly works on cosmic frequencies and cycles. Very hard to explain. Do a look up on it. The jury is very much out about it.

The other is a "Frank's Box". It supposedly accesses lower frequencies of radio waves used by spirits and a sensativ/medium channels the messages. We were present at a demonstration of a Frank's Box this past spring. Wasn't impressed. We heard voices but way too low to be understood. Could easily have been normal radio chatter. We weren't allowed to use our instruments during the demo so to us it was only a show. Some people did supposedly get messages that upset them.

Where did you go to witness the Frank's Box? I would love to see it. Is it an original? Was anymore made?
The AD Project
QUOTE (_Nyx_ @ Oct 21 2007, 08:38 PM) *
The Spiritualist faith had begun its revival shortly after World War I and in 1920, communication with the spirits became an obsession for one of the greatest scientists of all time, Thomas Alva Edison. Edison was a self-taught genius who believed that he could build anything if he had the right components to do it. Edison was an agnostic all of his life, never disputing the teachings of organized religion, but never embracing them either. He believed that somewhere in the universe was a great intelligence but he doubted that it had any interest in man. He claimed that when a person died, the body decayed, but the intelligence that it possessed lived on. He though the so-called "spirit world" was simply a limbo where disembodied intelligence waited to move on.

He took these beliefs one step further by announcing that he intended to device a means of communication with the spirit world. In October of 1920, an article appeared in American Magazine entitled "Edison Working to Communicate with the Next World". This was one of the many magazines who were trying to confirm that Edison was indeed attempting to communicate with the dead.

The Rest Of The Story

Strange that he died while working on a device to communicate with the dead, too bad he didn't finish it. How did Thomas Edison die btw?
_Nyx_
QUOTE (The AD Project @ Oct 22 2007, 02:06 PM) *
Strange that he died while working on a device to communicate with the dead, too bad he didn't finish it. How did Thomas Edison die btw?


Thomas Edison died on October 18, 1931, in his home, "Glenmont" in Llewellyn Park in West Orange, New Jersey, which he had purchased in 1886 as a wedding gift for his wife, Mina.
His final words to his wife were "It is very beautiful over there."
Edison's last breath is reportedly contained in a test tube at the Henry Ford Museum. Ford reportedly convinced Charles Edison to seal a test tube of air in the inventor's room shortly after his death, as a memento. A plaster death mask was also made.
I'm not sure what he died from, though.
Finsup22
QUOTE (_Nyx_ @ Oct 22 2007, 01:09 PM) *
Thomas Edison died on October 18, 1931, in his home, "Glenmont" in Llewellyn Park in West Orange, New Jersey, which he had purchased in 1886 as a wedding gift for his wife, Mina.
His final words to his wife were "It is very beautiful over there."
Edison's last breath is reportedly contained in a test tube at the Henry Ford Museum. Ford reportedly convinced Charles Edison to seal a test tube of air in the inventor's room shortly after his death, as a memento. A plaster death mask was also made.
I'm not sure what he died from, though.



He saw what electric bills where going to be like in the future disgust.gif , I think thats what killed him.
Barek Halfhand
spiricom huh? happy.gif .....b
The AD Project
QUOTE (Finsup22 @ Oct 22 2007, 01:14 PM) *
He saw what electric bills where going to be like in the future disgust.gif , I think thats what killed him.

LOL most likely
spiridion
QUOTE (_Nyx_ @ Oct 22 2007, 12:09 PM) *
Edison's last breath is reportedly contained in a test tube at the Henry Ford Museum. Ford reportedly convinced Charles Edison to seal a test tube of air in the inventor's room shortly after his death, as a memento. A plaster death mask was also made



Ewwwwww.
~Onyx~
It's always been a theory of mine that "ghosts" or "spirits" work on a different frequency than ours, like braodcasting...how else can phenomenon like EVP and EMF be feasible?

Humans can only pick up frequencies up to 20,000 Hz (20MHz), and that's as babies, as we age the range we're capable of "receiving" decreases, visible frequencies are radio waves converted to visual light, radio and television fall into the 30-3000MHz range, lower frequencies are used also for submarine communication(source: Wikipedia).

So since we can pick up ghosts on radio but not hear it in person I would theorize that they exist in the >30MHz range.

Just a thought.
cherrypine
Yes, I think the name of the box was Frank's box. It was mentioned as going to be discussed I think on the Coast to Coast radio program sometime soon.
Clovendearhoof/faceman
'Frank's Box,' also known as the telephone to the dead. The box, composed of used parts from various electronic devices,


sounds scientific.
Veliska
QUOTE (Clovendearhoof/faceman @ Oct 23 2007, 02:13 AM) *
'Frank's Box,' also known as the telephone to the dead. The box, composed of used parts from various electronic devices,


sounds scientific.

Actually it does. yes.gif
Mr Walker
I have heard of this in generic terms, referred to as a spirit box, and designed to magnify/ enhance messages from the "spirit world". However my memory places it much earlier than the "electronic" era, although probably in the victorian "mechanical" period.

A quick google indicates that the concept goes back much earlier, to various primitive societies including indigenous americans. The victorians probably combined their interest in such societies, with an interest in spiritualism to refine the concept into a more modern version.
Barek Halfhand
some in site....b


A Short History of EVP & ITC

The following are extracts from the History of ITC, which is available at Mark Macy’s web site: www.worlditc.org
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In the 1920s, Thomas Alva Edison, inventor of the electric light, the motion picture camera, and phonograph, was busily at work in his laboratory building a machine to achieve spirit communication with the dead. His assistant, Dr Miller Hutchinson, wrote, “Edison and I are convinced that in the fields of psychic research will yet be discovered facts that will prove of greater significance to the thinking of the human race than all the inventions we have ever made in the field of electricity.”

Edison himself wrote, “If our personality survives, then it is strictly logical or scientific to assume that it retains memory, intellect, other faculties, and knowledge that we acquire on this Earth. Therefore … if we can evolve an instrument so delicate as to be affected by our personality as it survives in the next life, such an instrument, when made available, ought to record something.”

Unfortunately, Edison died before he could complete his invention. Yet, as he lay dying, he remarked to his physician, "It is very beautiful over there." Edison was a scientist, very factual, and as a scientist would never have reported "It is very beautiful over there," unless he believed it to be true

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The good father was somewhat reassured. But he made certain that the experiment did not go public until the last years of his life. It wasn't until 1990 that the results were published. In 1959, the man who was to become a great pioneer in the recording of voice phenomena, Swedish film producer Friedrich Juergenson, captured voices on audiotape while taping bird songs. He was startled when he played the tape back and heard a male voice say something about "bird voices in the night." Listening more intently to his tapes, he heard his mother's voice say in German, “Friedrich, you are being watched. Friedel, my little Friedel, can you hear me?” Juergenson said that when he heard his mother's voice, he was convinced, he had made "an important discovery." During the next four years, Juergenson continued to tape hundreds of paranormal voices. He played the tapes at an international press conference and in 1964 published a book in Swedish: Voices from the Universe and then another entitled Radio Contact with the Dead
MasterPo
QUOTE (veliska27 @ Oct 22 2007, 11:21 AM) *
Where did you go to witness the Frank's Box? I would love to see it. Is it an original? Was anymore made?


It was demo'd during a trip to the Stanley this past spring.

I've heard 2 theories on how it works: One says it "scans" (not sure what that means) lower radio frequencies were supposedly the dead more frequently communicate, the other similarly that it randomly scans radio frequencies and that entities use this randomness to form words (a theory that has been put forth before for EVP formation).

In either case I can't say. The internals and design of the Frank's box are purposely kept very confidential, only shared with a few people. That makes me even more suspicious. huh.gif
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