Cantalope
Oct 25 2007, 09:02 AM
Okay, when I was a little kid, I used to collect keys. Then when I got bored I would take them to an electrical outlet, stick them in, and I would see how long I could last being electricuted!
Now, from what I can remember, this I think, was when everything started happening. So I guess I'll start like this:
Since I was little, I've been.... "more in-tune", I guess I could say, than most people. Since I was little, I have always been very precognitive. For those of you who don't know what that means, it means to know something before it happens. Anyway, I have been very precognitive since I was little, so precognitive that its almost in a demanding way.
For example: I will think of an episode of a program that I like. Either that day, or within the next few days, and it comes on! It was wednesday when I thought about the part where Peter on Family Guy watches the bag fly around like its some magistic thing! And the next day, BAM, on tv for my enjoyment!
But its not just that, I also have this thing I can do... Like, if I were to walk on the streets of New York, and if I looked at somebody, I would immedietly know how they felt, and what they were thinking. Sometimes I will be talking to my dad or brother, and before they finish the sentence, I will finish it for them, then they look at me really wierd. I once said a whole conversation of what my mom was about to say before she said it, and she got very frightened, but I didn't mean to do it, it just popped out...
I can also sometimes hear voices, not like in my head, but from somewhere and something else, something thats not there. So, I guess I could say a ghost or something. Its as if I know they are there, and I can hear them, but not all the time. Sometimes I'll just bits and pieces of what they are saying, or somtimes all of it.
I have a few more things, but I feel I'm getting to personal..
But to make it all worse, I suffer from migraines, which is a disease. I've been doing research on my own, and I've had them for a very long time. I've ruled out just about every single kind of migraine, and it seems I have NDPH (New Daily Persistant Headache) one of the worse kinds there are, and they last up to at least 3 months, and there is no cure or medicine that releaves any pain. I have one right now, and so far its lasted a month and a half. But what is wierd though is that all these "abilities" I guess I could call them, are significantly more prevelent, I have more control over them then I usually do. But when my headache ends, I still retain all that power and control that I had when I had the headache. This headache is byfar one of the worst ones, and these "Abilities" are getting more powerfull and I'm gaining more control...
But last night I was watching Chris Angel, and he was doing something with electricity. And people were explaining on the show how there are many myths and legends that envolve being electricuted and struck by lightning. And since I saw that, I thought back to myself sticking my keys into power outlets, which may I remind you that I did it a lot.
So, does anybody have any clue whats going on with me or whats wrong with me? I'm just very confused and I don't know what I should do and my mirgaine gets worse by the hour...
group67
Oct 25 2007, 09:59 AM
ive encountered people who have the same abilities, although not the migraines.
however there are a few other tell tale signs, like;
1 Can you ever will cetain people to contact you?
2 do you ever answer unspoken questions of people you are talking to?
3 Have you ever had a dream come true?
4 Have you ever had the feeling that a friend or relative is ill or in trouble, only to discover that youre correct?
these are all signs of precognative behaviour however you may border on telapathic.
alwell you dont have to post back with answers because they may be personal but i hope these help you.
Cantalope
Oct 25 2007, 10:22 AM
Yes, yes, yes, and yes!! Wow! There are a few more things I can do but they are a little personal, but yes, I have all those all the time! But just the thought that other people are like me makes me feel so much better, I finally feel like I'm not alone. I can't even tell you how happy you made me, thank you so much! ^__^
GeneBrowne
Oct 25 2007, 03:57 PM
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Whats wrong with me?
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And since I saw that, I thought back to myself sticking my keys into power outlets, which may I remind you that I did it a lot.
Well .... Maybe sticking keys in wall sockets wasn't the best idea. And you're wondering why you have headaches .... your brain is fried.
Before I start to type what I have to ... I'm just looking at it from a skeptics view so don't get overly offensive because this is for everyone not just you.
Most of your happenings you have listed here are most likely a coincidence. I think of a tv show and within a day or 2 it's on .... come on now ... thats a bit of a stretch don't you think? I mean there are so many tv channels and so many shows today that most people can do this. I can do it, and I'm a normal guy.
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Sometimes I will be talking to my dad or brother, and before they finish the sentence, I will finish it for them
I finish my friends sentences all the time ... because I know them and have come accostomed to their thought patterns. Nothing psychic about that.
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Like, if I were to walk on the streets of New York, and if I looked at somebody, I would immedietly know how they felt
If you look at most people you can tell their mood ... most people wear their emotions on their faces, making it easier for you to know what theyre feeling just by observation.
You are hearing voices too. Maybe you should go to a doc if you havent. I mean I'm sure that it's possible for PSI abilities, after all anything is POSSIBLE, but what happenes if it's a brain tumor or something in which you can die from and you just want to be special. I'd go to the doc and if it's nothing, well then I'd continue with your attitude that you now have.
There's just people who would rather be psychic than go to a doctor and find out that there's soemthing drastically wrong with them ... so that's my advice. You have to respect it, it's the sensable thing to do. But it's your choice.
Neognosis
Oct 25 2007, 04:19 PM
I second what GeneBrown said.
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But to make it all worse, I suffer from migraines, which is a disease. I've been doing research on my own, and I've had them for a very long time. I've ruled out just about every single kind of migraine, and it seems I have NDPH (New Daily Persistant Headache) one of the worse kinds there are, and they last up to at least 3 months, and there is no cure or medicine that releaves any pain.
I am a real migraine sufferer, and I seriously don't think you are having migraines. Myself, and the only other migraine sufferer I know, can not function or look at a computer screen during a migraine.
If my migraines lasted 3 months with nothing to relieve the pain, I would kill myself. I would not have any desire or ability to chat on a message board.
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Most of your happenings you have listed here are most likely a coincidence. I think of a tv show and within a day or 2 it's on .... come on now ... thats a bit of a stretch don't you think?
Everyone can do that. You also don't remember the times you were wrong.
See a doctor like GeneBrown recommends. There's no magical connection between your "abilities' and being electrocuted often as a child. If anything, you seem to show some symptoms of mental illness.
BTW, if you reall stick a key in a socket and tried to hold on, wouldn't you cause a fuse to trip or blow?
With headaches like you describe, you need to see a doctor. You could have a tumor or a clot or something seriously wrong with you. For your own good, it is foolish not to seek medical attention over and over again until you find out what is wrong with you.
GeneBrowne
Oct 25 2007, 05:23 PM
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BTW, if you reall stick a key in a socket and tried to hold on, wouldn't you cause a fuse to trip or blow?
How dangerous is wall voltage?
To repeat the tired cliche, it's not the Volts, it's the amps that kills you. But while every electrician will tell you this, it doesn't really answer your question. Current is voltage divided by resistance, so the lower your resistance, the more dangerous a given voltage is. Wall voltage can easily kill you if the conditions are right, although it usually will just hurt you very badly. Your body resistance can change significantly depending on several things, which means a voltage that hurt you one time might kill you another time. Electricity can cause a serious burn if the arm that comes in contact with the hot wire is also touching a piece of metal, such as the junction box. Respect electricity and shut off the power at the circuit breaker before dong any electrical work. The circuit breaker will not protect you, it takes less than one Amp to kill you. By the time you're pulling over 15 Amps through your body, you're a crispy critter. GFCI outlets are designed to protect you, but don't go tempting fate.
I found that from a google search. Either way ... it's dumb to stick anything in an outlet .... The lack of common sense in the world is amazing.

Gene
GeneBrowne
Oct 25 2007, 05:24 PM
So for all you young aspiring psi people out there ... sticking keys in the wall sockets make you dumb, not psychic.
Some of the things people post here are really going to get someone hurt one of these days. People flying, people being psychic from sticking knives and keys in sockets....
Jjbreen
Oct 25 2007, 06:42 PM
First I agree w/Gene 100%.
You've offered nothing here that cannot be explained w/a little rational thinking and common sense.
As to your New York, "knowing what the strangers were thinking" - since you did not walk up to them and verified this - this is speculation at best and NOT fact, not even sorta, kinda maybe.
Knowing what they were feeling. Again this is based on visual clues - therefore it's not a big issue. People's eyes, face and body position tells us a lot. So unless you asked them specifically --"Is this what you are feeling..." again it is pure speculation and NOT FACT.
Bottom line: You've presented NO FACTS of anything extraordinary ... except the stupid move of keys in a plug socket. I called a doctor friend of mine that specializes in headaches. He clearly stated that that stunt as a kid is 90% +/- the cause of your migraines. So it's not: "disease" as much as it would/could be an INJURY of doing that stupid thing .... sigh .......
So no - sorry, there is nothing here that isn't just common and ordinary .....
PS: He also stated, that since this was self-inflicted injury .... well so much for the "disease". (This was all based on his reading your full post too.) He is the one that wondered did you actually tell the doctor about the key story? Because that changes everything ....
Kevin A.
Oct 25 2007, 06:54 PM
Whats wrong with you?
Considering that attempting to electrocute yourself was a childhood pastime of yours, my guess would be a lot.......
Perhaps a more serious reply later when I have the time.
Kevin A.
eight bits
Oct 25 2007, 08:21 PM
At the risk of cultivating a reputation for this, I think the OP is indulging in the new web craze pioneered by the gone-but-not-forgotten Please Explain. It needs a name. maybe skepbaiting.
The marquee superpower claimed is wandering the streets thinking to yourself about passerby's feelings. Compare PE's masterpiece, waking his sleeping puppy with rude noises.
Guessing the plot of cartoon shows was less innovative, however. That's been claimed here before. Well, even PE was running short of fresh material near the end.
Neognosis was clearly toying with the this-is-fake hypothesis. N compared his migranes to the OP's and found the latter suspiciously unmigrane-like. He also wondered whether a fuse might have blown. So, N smelled a rat.
(Blow a fuse? Probably not. Casual electrocutions with household voltages happen every day, and generally draw only a fraction of an amp.)
Allow me to weigh in on electrocution: nobody would do it twice, not even mental patients. The experiment has been done: electroconvulsive "therapy" was typically resisted by its recipients. Vigorously.
Electrocution hurts, really hurts. At the 60 hertz typical of American service, you also have the "cannot let go" experience. This limits your ability to fine tune your adventure in pain.
Bottom line: it didn't happen, or at most, it happened once.
I think you've been had, folks, again.
Jjbreen
Oct 25 2007, 09:23 PM
8bits ...
You are making an assumption that the person is not telling the truth .... maybe - maybe not. You have no proof either way - nor do I. So we take people on the face value of their post ... unless there is something seriously wrong ... like PE doing something to his dog, then post he has no dog.
Do kids do stupid things like the OP. Yes, actually they do! I have a few friends that work in ER's from nurses to doctors. Maybe, maybe not you' be surprised at how many kids are brought in because of 'stupid' ideas and paid the price for them. So does the OP shock me? No - not all. Nor might I add it shocked the doctor that I shared this post w/about the migraine headaches. He feels, based only on the reading of the post a very obvious 'cause/link' to the electrical shocks.
So unless we have proof other wise that the person is lying to us .... well any thoughts on that would be speculation at best.
What they talk about w/their walks in New York - is not uncommon either. But does it prove anything out of the ordinary? NO - actually there is nothing 'special'here -- a kid presenting as 'fact' what they think they feel from that person and what the person's thoughts are w/out offering any actual evidence. This is very common on UM of people claiming 'powers' when all it is, is proving the are "MASTERS OF THE OBVIOUS" and even then w/not one piece of valid evidence there too.
Does the person have anything 'special' -- no, except like every other kid, they too did stupid things ... nothing more and nothing less.
Cantalope
Oct 25 2007, 11:08 PM
This was exactly why I didn't want to do this, I'm not asking you to belive me, I'm askin for help. And don't pull that, "if you want help, go to a sichiatrist, not a forum bull crap"
I never said I had control over what happens on tv, I said it happens so much, thats its almost in a demmanding way, "almost" thats the key word in that sentence you star readers.
Again, I wasn't asking you to believe me, I was asking for help... And next time, why not try to help, intsead of critisize other people, and if you can't help, just don't say anythign at all. Anything to get your post count count up I guess...
eight bits
Oct 25 2007, 11:34 PM
(Hi, Cantalope... nice one. Neither you nor PE really mastered the dismount. But it is a new art form, and I am sure the next thread will be better.)
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unless there is something seriously wrong ... like PE doing something to his dog, then post he has no dog.
Ah, Jerry, your memory is playing tricks on you.
You and I had
both called PE by October 16th. PE first revealed that he had no dog on October 17th.
PE was called because his claim was no claim at all. Ditto our current OP. In both cases, the sport was to watch you or your buddies get exercised, posting thorough and agitated analyses about why the non-claim is not a paranormal claim.
But OP has plenty which is seriously wrong.
I concur with Neognosis that the OP's "migranes" are unrealistic. If you don't want to rely on N's word, then at least Google NDPH.
I don't know whether you've been electrocuted at 120 volts, 60 Hz. I have. It hurts a lot.
Holding on to the electrodes until you voluntarily let go, as described in the OP, is physiologically a pile. You have
no useful voluntary musculature along the current path at 60 Hz. You can look that up if you want.
His backstory never happened, Jerry. He never told a paranormal story. The sharks bit.
Skepbaiters 2. Skeptics 0.
Jjbreen
Oct 26 2007, 12:34 AM
QUOTE (Cantalope @ Oct 25 2007, 04:08 PM)

This was exactly why I didn't want to do this, I'm not asking you to belive me, I'm askin for help. And don't pull that, "if you want help, go to a sichiatrist, not a forum bull crap"
I never said I had control over what happens on tv, I said it happens so much, thats its almost in a demmanding way, "almost" thats the key word in that sentence you star readers.
Again, I wasn't asking you to believe me, I was asking for help... And next time, why not try to help, intsead of critisize other people, and if you can't help, just don't say anythign at all. Anything to get your post count count up I guess...
Cant - What you've offered is nothing that cannot be explained w/simple logic and a little common sense.
I even had a doctor friend of mine read your post and told me, basically that your stupid stunt as a kid w/the keys is more then likely the cause - IF indeed you told the truth! That it wasn't a "disease", unless doing stupid things is a disease. It was likely self inflicted injury to your body.
The New York stunt. There again there was no proof offered. You didn't go up and ask the people: "Are you feeling "this"?" or "Are you thinking "this"?" -- I can walk down any street and take visual clues and audio clues and be better then 50% correct. I could tell you, "this person is thinking "A" and that person is thinking "B". How would you prove me wrong, let alone how could I prove I was right? Only by asking them. Other wise it's pure 100% guessing, assumption, speculation. NOT FACTS and certainly not PROOF.
As to the TV - again, this is not unique. I know what times my shows are on that I want to watch w/out even looking on the guides. Your subconscience retains a lot of things you are not aware of. So again ... U OFFERED NOTHING there too.
Want proof - just go check your local TV guide and see that IS the time for these programs. So you didn't 'cause' it on 'demand' --> Unless you have Comcast On Demand. But that too is not YOU causing it..... sigh .............
I guess I'm wondering why all the EMOTIONS on this from you. You asked, we told you .... You don't like the answers, gee, I'm sorry but that is your problem not ours.
Your attitude is all to common with UM posts with posts like yours. We show you or others common sense and logic - and then you blast us for not going on your little wanna bee fantasy trip..... Sorry again, that's your problem not mine.
BOTTOM LINE: You have nothing extraordinary going on at all. It's all very common and very easily explained with no problems. So at this point, I'd say --- it's time to grow up and except the clear facts you are not "special" you have nothing 'unique' or anything else going on. You are actually very common run-of-the-mill person. Accept it, everyone else has to and does and are doing just fine! Sigh .........
Pierce8
Oct 26 2007, 07:19 AM
I guess you were thinking too much that you have ESP, causing you to believe that you really have it and in control of it...
They are right... you're experiences can logically explained. I think you are obsessed of having
ESP, and in that experiences you finds a resort to be lucky gifted one.
I believe in ESP, and i experienced it when I was a kid, I didn't try anything like you said you were electricuted. It just happened. Though i expereinced it only twice as I remember, I am really sure that it was a work of my precognition... First was the number 77 that flashes to my mind ( as if theres great thing will happen)_ when my cousin wanted me to choose the number for a winning ticket (He won), and my test score card, that if not with my ESP I would fail.... the last one is still vivid for me because I really waited for hours for my classmate to fix my test paper in my teachers classrecord and found that she mistakenly put the wrong score under my name.
Nothing is coincindence especially when the event really pressures you to do it.
AmazingAtheist
Oct 26 2007, 07:26 AM
Migraines are from you idiotically electrocuting yourself.
And, no, Even if you did have these "Powers" they would not be from doing that ..
eight bits
Oct 26 2007, 07:52 AM
Lol, Jerry. You do recall that part of PE's
schtick was to noodge people into doing something silly to prove him wrong. Um,
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The New York stunt. There again there was no proof offered. You didn't go up and ask the people: "Are you feeling "this"?" or "Are you thinking "this"?"
New York? Dude walks down the street, stops people and asks them how they're feeling?
Right. That will turn out well

.
But I was thinking about all this, and there was one thing you said that I would like to correct.
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You are making an assumption that the person is not telling the truth
Categorically not. I withhold judgement and ask questions. That
used to be what
sceptic meant, until Randi & Company redefined it to mean "if I can explain how to fake it, then it must be fake, and if I can't explain it, then it must be fake then, too."
I find that a really useful question is "Why is the poster telling us this?" You don't, largely because you already
know the answer. It begins "Kids these days, cluck, cluck."
As our friends who study game theory say, that is an exploitable flaw in your strategy. The law of nature is that exploitable flaws will be exploited.
Two zip.
Embarr
Oct 26 2007, 08:42 AM
QUOTE (Cantalope @ Oct 25 2007, 04:02 AM)

Okay, when I was a little kid, I used to collect keys. Then when I got bored I would take them to an electrical outlet, stick them in, and I would see how long I could last being electricuted!
Now, from what I can remember, this I think, was when everything started happening. So I guess I'll start like this:
Since I was little, I've been.... "more in-tune", I guess I could say, than most people. Since I was little, I have always been very precognitive. For those of you who don't know what that means, it means to know something before it happens. Anyway, I have been very precognitive since I was little, so precognitive that its almost in a demanding way.
For example: I will think of an episode of a program that I like. Either that day, or within the next few days, and it comes on! It was wednesday when I thought about the part where Peter on Family Guy watches the bag fly around like its some magistic thing! And the next day, BAM, on tv for my enjoyment!
But its not just that, I also have this thing I can do... Like, if I were to walk on the streets of New York, and if I looked at somebody, I would immedietly know how they felt, and what they were thinking. Sometimes I will be talking to my dad or brother, and before they finish the sentence, I will finish it for them, then they look at me really wierd. I once said a whole conversation of what my mom was about to say before she said it, and she got very frightened, but I didn't mean to do it, it just popped out...
I can also sometimes hear voices, not like in my head, but from somewhere and something else, something thats not there. So, I guess I could say a ghost or something. Its as if I know they are there, and I can hear them, but not all the time. Sometimes I'll just bits and pieces of what they are saying, or somtimes all of it.
I have a few more things, but I feel I'm getting to personal..
But to make it all worse, I suffer from migraines, which is a disease. I've been doing research on my own, and I've had them for a very long time. I've ruled out just about every single kind of migraine, and it seems I have NDPH (New Daily Persistant Headache) one of the worse kinds there are, and they last up to at least 3 months, and there is no cure or medicine that releaves any pain. I have one right now, and so far its lasted a month and a half. But what is wierd though is that all these "abilities" I guess I could call them, are significantly more prevelent, I have more control over them then I usually do. But when my headache ends, I still retain all that power and control that I had when I had the headache. This headache is byfar one of the worst ones, and these "Abilities" are getting more powerfull and I'm gaining more control...
But last night I was watching Chris Angel, and he was doing something with electricity. And people were explaining on the show how there are many myths and legends that envolve being electricuted and struck by lightning. And since I saw that, I thought back to myself sticking my keys into power outlets, which may I remind you that I did it a lot.
So, does anybody have any clue whats going on with me or whats wrong with me? I'm just very confused and I don't know what I should do and my mirgaine gets worse by the hour...
First off... OW! Did you have some pain fetish as a child or something. I once got zapped by accident when I got my finger a little too close while plugging in a lamp. It was like having my hand fall asleep in an instant and then I had to go through it "waking up" again. NOT a pleasant feeling and I pulled my hand away immediately, which is what I'd think would be most peoples natural reaction. And I am never even going to think about it happening again.
As everyone else said before, mostly everyone in the world can do what you have said you can do to some degree or another. Heck, you wouldn't believe the amount of times I've thought of some show or movie and it comes on tv. I just think about how great it was that it's on tv when I start thinking about it again, not that there's something supernatural about it. And I wouldn't be surprised that most of the time I may have picked up on it subconconceously.
As for the headache, please see a doctor. You've said you've researched it, but it's best to seek out a professional since they can treat it. I don't think migraines are a sign of powers, just your brain having some trouble. Whether it's having trouble handling your abilities or something else, that's up in the air for you to decide. Just, please, go to a doctor.
GeneBrowne
Oct 26 2007, 02:20 PM
QUOTE (Cantalope @ Oct 25 2007, 08:38 PM)

This was exactly why I didn't want to do this, I'm not asking you to belive me, I'm askin for help. And don't pull that, "if you want help, go to a sichiatrist, not a forum bull crap"
I never said I had control over what happens on tv, I said it happens so much, thats its almost in a demmanding way, "almost" thats the key word in that sentence you star readers.
Again, I wasn't asking you to believe me, I was asking for help... And next time, why not try to help, intsead of critisize other people, and if you can't help, just don't say anythign at all. Anything to get your post count count up I guess...
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I'm askin for help. And don't pull that, "if you want help, go to a sichiatrist, not a forum bull crap"
Well if you dont want to be open for all suggestion, why ask at all. Sounds like you want to be deemed a psychic or whatever. Mental problems are more common than you imagine and if you do not want to consider it, well dont ask for help.
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I never said I had control over what happens on tv, I said it happens so much, thats its almost in a demmanding way, "almost" thats the key word in that sentence you star readers.
The Star readers you are talking about are the ones who have common sense. Sorry we do not think you are all powerful with your psi abilities ... frankly if you think you are from these experiences alone, you should start doing some research and not just wishing to get a confidence boost from here. No1 overly cares whether you are what you claim to be, but we helped you by telling you that most of us think it's easily explained .. and since it wasnt what you wanted to hear you got defensive.
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Again, I wasn't asking you to believe me, I was asking for help...
You got help but it wasn't what you were looking for so it's not considered help to you. Maybe you should grow up a little and then ask for serious help.
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And next time, why not try to help, intsead of critisize other people, and if you can't help, just don't say anythign at all. Anything to get your post count count up I guess...
Try not to post pointless claims while asking for help, getting it, not accepting it because it's not what you want to hear just to run up your post count.
So in conclusion ... grow up, accept that mental problems are common, not all people are straight jacket material, but it's a common occurence. Take advice even when it's not what you want to hear. And learn whats common sense and whats not.
I'm not picking on you ... if anyoone had to to post this I would have said the same.
Gene
Regency
Oct 26 2007, 03:06 PM
Hi there.
If I were you, I would go and see your GP and tell him all this. Tell him about the electrocution (please don't do that again, you could kill yourself) and most importantly about your head pain. He could arrange a scan or some tests which could help you, constant headache isn't a good thing, regardless of it's a migrane or not.
good luck.
Reg
ASOP
Oct 26 2007, 04:16 PM
I don think you sticking keys in outlets caused you to get migranes I get migranes I never put keys in outlets. You should really see a doctor for these headachs I dont know how you could look at a computer screen with these headachs that would kill me. Yea I can pretty much think of a tv show and poof it will come on that day or a day or two later kinda weird I think and no I dont look at tv guide. I dont think anything is wrong with you madbe you do have a special gift going on but we all do its just knowing how to use it. Get your headachs checked.

p.s no headach should ever last for more then 72 hours. SEE A DOCTOR!
She-ra
Oct 26 2007, 05:13 PM
Whoa! First Cant I'd back up. Have you seen a doctor? Have you had a C.A.T. Scan or MRI of your brain? I would rule out anything physical before anything else!!!!!
Take care, Jody
Jjbreen
Oct 26 2007, 07:19 PM
ASOP -
Actually if you read my post, I had a neurological doctor that specializes in headaches read Cant's post. Based on the post, he is not surprised by the headache issues. He has no problem seeing a direct relation between the key/shock at all.
As had been asked, did Cant explain this part to their doctor or did they leave it out? That is no small piece of their health issues at all. Or were they too embarrassed to tell them??
No there are a lot of different cause/effects for headaches. I have intense headaches that are worse the migraines. Mine are due to injury of an 8' oak book case falling on my neck and damaging a lot of nerves in my neck, disks and bone.
So I'd be careful about saying, "no ... injury cannot cause these headaches...." YES THEY CAN. Electrical shock and repeated (if indeed true) is no small equation to the condition. It would not be a disease as they claim - it would be very much a self-inflicted injury.
The fact that they labeled it a disease shows a good chance they never told their doctor about the childhood stunt.
SilverWood
Oct 26 2007, 11:20 PM
wow, I thought that people on this forum were a little more open minded, but I geuss the saying "people fear what they don't know" is very true.
Cant,
I have some answers for you, I PM'd you my email. I'm not going to scream "liar!" like some other people. if your interested in talking to someone who is sympathetic to your situation email me.
wolfieboy
Oct 26 2007, 11:29 PM
QUOTE (Cantalope @ Oct 25 2007, 06:08 PM)

This was exactly why I didn't want to do this, I'm not asking you to belive me, I'm askin for help. And don't pull that, "if you want help, go to a sichiatrist, not a forum bull crap"
I never said I had control over what happens on tv, I said it happens so much, thats its almost in a demmanding way, "almost" thats the key word in that sentence you star readers.
Again, I wasn't asking you to believe me, I was asking for help... And next time, why not try to help, intsead of critisize other people, and if you can't help, just don't say anythign at all. Anything to get your post count count up I guess...
BRAVO cantalope i so agree it is just the way of the skeptic to beat down and belittle the ones who are out here for a honest exchange of information. their form of help should be limited to sitting down and shutting up.
SS79
Oct 26 2007, 11:37 PM
QUOTE (wolfieboy @ Oct 27 2007, 12:29 AM)

BRAVO cantalope i so agree it is just the way of the skeptic to beat down and belittle the ones who are out here for a honest exchange of information. their form of help should be limited to sitting down and shutting up.
Im sorry but i dont see how telling people to consult their doctor is beating people . its common sense. cant is suffering severe headaches which frankly dont sound like the norm. at least the doc can rule something physical out . better to be safe than sorry imo.
AmazingAtheist
Oct 27 2007, 12:18 AM
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Jjbreen
Oct 27 2007, 01:10 AM
QUOTE (SilverWood @ Oct 26 2007, 04:20 PM)

wow, I thought that people on this forum were a little more open minded, but I geuss the saying "people fear what they don't know" is very true.
Cant,
I have some answers for you, I PM'd you my email. I'm not going to scream "liar!" like some other people. if your interested in talking to someone who is sympathetic to your situation email me.
There is no fear in me at all ... everything that Cantalope posted has very rational, logical and common answers to them. There is no Psychic powers or paranormal powers or anything else involved. I'm very opened minded. But I also see things for what they are and don't 'play mind games with people."
Also I guess I find it very sad, that I had a doctor that specializes in neurology and headaches -- and based on what he read, he had no issues seeing the key/electrical socket as being the likely cause of their headaches. But what does a doctor know, huh? I suppose we need to 'spiritualize' it and make it more than it was ... A VERY STUPID THING TO DO AS A KID.
The walk/talks in New York City - proved nothing but the active imagination of kid ... since none of what they thought, felt or said was even sorta kinda maybe validated.... So prove it wasn't just a kids active imagination.
As for the TV - simple answer there too -- Check the TV guide and see if the program was suppose to be on that time. Guess what..... IT WAS!!! They didn't will it to happen or make it happen. They didn't suddenly change their program schedule because of Cantalope. So the logical answer would be - sub-conscience knew based on comericals, tv guides and just becoming familiar w/what is on TV at given times. <<-- This is actually very common and no big mystery.
So prey tell -- where is the mystery??? There is none, there is no paranormal, there is no psychic .....
I don't mean for this to sound 'harsh' - but I'm tired of people not willing to accept common sense, a little rational thinking and such. No, instead they need to find some 'super power', or "spiritual truth" .... when clearly based on all the presented facts - there are none.
They asked "What's wrong with me?" -- the answers were given, with logic and rational objective thoughts and even a doctor... Now we are being told - "Well I don't like those answers.... you are all mean..."
Cantalope:
Well go find someone then that will tell you what you WANT to hear instead of the clear truth of what you posted. U can find people that will coddle you and pat you on the back and tell you what you want to hear... They are a penny a gross. But I thought you wanted the truth --- not 'fantasy talk" I guess it's my bad .....
Kismit
Oct 27 2007, 01:26 AM
Firstly sticking keys in power sockets is an incredibly stupid thing to do. And seeking medical advice is a sensible thing to do.
Cant, have you ever wondered how much more aware you might be if you hadn't electrocuted yourself. Also, and I am not trying to be arrogant here but how did you manage to control how long you held the keys? I was of the belief that once electricity has a hold of you, letting go voluntarily is not an option.
And finaly.... What makes you connect the electric shocks with the migrains? I split my head open as a child and now I get head aches and migrains but I would never have jumped to the conclusion that they are connected. I would be more likely to put them down to alergy, dehydration or muscular tension.
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