Hi everyone.

I'm your newest Ghost Hunter / Interested Party.

Until recently, I've never been 'into' ghosts or spirits but I'm really getting into studying spirits and ghosts lately and have been lurking around in the forum for about three weeks reading up and looking at all your pics and have posted a few of my thoughts on pics you guys have posted.

BUT all this research has left me with LOADS of questions.

I'll only post one at a time so I can keep up with your replies.

Hope you guys don't mind answering my q's, you all seem so much more knowlegeable than me and some of my questions are stopping me from progressing my research.

QUESTION NUMBER ONE THEN:

I read that when ghosts/spirits are around, there is very often (more often than not, it appears) an extreme drop in temperature HOWEVER, I also read that when ghost hunters are looking for spirits, they use a heat detecting camera and look for heat anomolies (heat not low temperatures)

How so? Why would ghosts make the room go cold, but then be detected by a heat detector?

Can anyone help me on this?

TY in advance

Sassages

Im afraid you are going to get a crap load of answers here for everyone has a wide range of opinions.

Some say when an entity draws energy from an area, it gets colder. People use temperature devices to not necessarily detect heat and cold, but a fluxuation from the rest of the area. Like a thermal camera for example. You can sense a great bit of difference with this imaging device.

Some theorists suggest that during the manifestation stage of an entity, it gets colder, sorta like when they first approach. The heat could symbolize an already manifested apparition.

Oh crumbs, I'm going to get even more confused then, aren't I!

This research is really good fun, I have started at the absolute basics and am building up a knowledge daily and bit by bit the facts are all falling into place and making sense.

So, when they are appearing, they make the room colder as they draw in the temperature/heat from the room, then when they're 'there' their heat will show once they're formed.

So that would be why people always say the room goes cold when they feel a presence. That kinda makes sense, doesn't it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qA9kNDbbfc

Here is an appirition that is cold on top and hot on the bottom. I have also see ones that were cold all over except for 1 part of them that was red hot, such as their hands or their eyes.

It has been my experience that the ghosts that cannot be seen tend to make the room cold more often than the ones that are visible to the naked eye. Once you can see them they don't need to draw in as much energy I guess. This is just an opinion, and there is no real way to answer your question since they are so unpredictable. Anything can happen.

Just for the record, not to do with actual cold or hot spots in an certain location, but we can get hot spots or cold on our bodies in certain parts. For example, lets say you are on an investigation and your hand or foot gets hot or cold, that means a spirit is touching you. Just thought I would throw in for you..JN

I know this appears like im picking at you, but please dont say that

and yes sassages, that is exactly what i was saying

Dont say what? Are you the expert here? What I posted is true...OMG..

So you are stating what you assume is fact, that when you have a cold spot on your persons during an investigation is infact a ghost or spirit touching you....????

You're going to get lots of opinions on this, as Enjay said you would.
I think the most important thing to remember when starting to research this subject, is that nobody knows what ghosts or spirits can or cannot do.
If there are laws to govern the activity of the paranormal no one alive knows what they are.
So be careful about believing everything that is thrown at you. Use your instincts.
That's my advice.
From what I understand about cold spots and heat detectors, Enjay is right.
I myself have never felt a cold spot that wasn't completely explainable.

YES! If a cold spot and hot spot in a location, is spiritual manifestation, what makes you think people dont get hot spots on certain body parts, it happens? If she went to a location for example, and said her neck felt hot or her back etc, that is exactly what it means. JN

I have heard that said also . however only if all logical explanations have been covered first . and its still questionable wether it is just our fear . heightened awareness in extreme enviroments causing it or not , it isnt conclusive that its spirit though but i understand where you get that from .

blessings SS79 x x x

Hmm...i can honestly state that is the funniest thing i have heard in my tenure here on UM.

I once had an investigator say she felt cold, the rest of the room was eh about 80 degrees, she even had goosebumps, oh man was this awesome, well as excited as we were, we were soon disappointed to realize that it was simply a draft coming down from the vent...

Ok last reply to you for the night. I have NO idea why you are so argumentative tonight. It has been my experience and thousands of others that spirits are around us, and when they touch us, it can cause a hot spot. Its not an assumption, its an experience. You discuss yours, I discuss mine. What makes yours any more valid than mine? JN

Because you made a statement of fact in a paranormal field that for all we know doesnt even exist. NOBODY, no matter who you are, has the right to make even a smidgen of such an escapade. You say its to be known, you say in my opinion, you say it could possibly be....i dont care if you shook hands with a spirit and had tea and peanut butter sandwiches, the fact of the matter is, what you stated is NOT FACTUAL, but a theory. A person asking questions, who is just starting out does not need to be fed lies but merely opinions. Never state a fact to someone just starting out because a fact is the truth and there is no truth to the paranormal, its all theories and guestimations.

I never heard of it before till it happened to me often, even while sitting here at pc. I finally asked and found out what it was. Also its said a tingling on your head and a tightness (like a bandana) is also a sign a spirit is very close. Did you ever hear that one SS? JN

Yes i did hear it but i wouldnt state its fact its an opinion of certain mediums and isnt the same for all but yes lots do say that its a sign of impending communication .

To the OP
some strange temp fluctuations from taps when speaking with an apparant psychic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhhgOYrr3ks

Ahh I Just watched that last night. That sort of confirms the hot and cold spots on certain people. JN

i kinda liked how it shows how two people can transmit energy between each other well thats what it looked like to me . how it passed from the medium to the guy he was reading. maybe i will have to watch taps . i think were way behind here in the uk though .

Yea that was awesome. They challenged him, and Jason tried to block him, but didnt work. That was the best evidence I have seen yet..Ohh you are in the UK? aahhhhh...The upside is, there is alot on YouTube if you feel like watching some of the scenes..ENJOY..((SS))...JN

thanks JN i will be getting round to watching those pretty soon

SS79 x x x

Anytime SS, But I am wondering if you will get TAPS Halloween special? Hope you get to watch it..JN

I would say that the reason a heat detector is used rerally because "cold" nis just an absense of heat so that if you can detect a general heat background you will soon see where the absence of heat (cold spots) are.

How so? Why would ghosts make the room go cold, but then be detected by a heat detector?
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I would say because we use a heat detector to register the general heat background or background temperature and as "cold" is merely an absence of heat
the cold spots show up in contrast.

Sassages, I will refrain from speculation on this one, because frankly, who really knows. Not that it has stopped me on other topics. But I thought, since you were so gracious, AND presented a VERY GOOD QUESTION, that I would use some modicum of honesty and tell the real truth of the matter. And that is "I don't know." But thanks once again for a very good topic. ~Jackal

That tight "band" feeling around the head is peculiar, I used to feel like it was something watching me/observing lol. Strangely enough, I had that the other day.

I agree about the hot/cold spots too, a sudden change in temperature in one part of the room or on one part of the body when the rest is normal does seem to indicate that something is happening - perhaps there is no real change in temperature, but the atmosphere changes in part of the room, maybe that's a possibility.

Thanks for being replying this, because I didnt know who else experienced this on here, if any at all. The tingling on the head and band type feeling doesnt last long, but it does feel odd, and "close" if you know what I mean? Last time it happened I then felt something beside me, and scared me to be honest, so took photos, but just got the old orb. There are times I get a very hot burning feeling on my forearm, or my knee, things like that, out of the blue, when the rest of my body appears to be the same temperature,,and it doesnt appear to be related to temperature but you are correct, something changes in the atmosphere. I know several folks who have experienced this and said it is due to a spirit touching us. I assume if they can cause hot and cold areas in a room, why wouldnt it be the same on a person? JN

I always thought this was a form of static electricty. I get this when im laying on the floor sometimes. If you were to take a picture during this, static electricty could appear to be an orb. Ya know, being a ball of energy and all.

I guess it could be J, if you are laying on a carpet perhaps. But while on the sofa or at my pc, it can happen out of the blue, so that is not static electricty. By the time I took pic it was seconds, so who knows? But this seems to be an occurance to some. Jason from TAPS said the tingling on the head means something is about to happen. That was his theory I watched the other night. I am glad others feel it, and kinda like the "cob web" sensation is sort of the same..JN

Cant rule out static electricty anywhere in a home, especially if it has carpet...

AWW I wuv you Jackal..JN-

I realize that, I said while on my computer and its on a tiled floor, no static electricity here. I am surprised you never felt things of this nature while investigating, esp the tingling, and cob web sensation which kind of gives you the creeps, and hair touching is another. The list is endless of sensations that can occur do to what I feel is paranormal..JN

Well, whatever i felt i usually found a logical explanation for. I have had many experiences where i couldnt explain, one of the best feelings i ever received was standing in the middle of the room and feeling my stomach instantly drop like i was on a rollercoaster.

They do say when you come into contact with something of the paranormal its the sensation as you described. When i lived at my old house in nc, i always felt like someone was taking a feather and gently brushing it against my hair while i was laying in bed. At first i got up in a hurry and started to freak out because wej ust moved in and there was a lil ant problem...I HATE BUGS....lol.....then i realized that my roommate was complaining about electrical problems, the tv turning on and off so i started to suspect possibly paranormal. I actually got on the computer right away and did some research and what i felt was a sign of what some say coming into contact with.

I did research on the address and area and I found that a woman died actually in our house. You know, you can investigate for so long, you can walk into a dark abandoned place by yourself and know it is haunted, but the idea of knowing your house has paranormal activity and hearing the things you hear on recordings, its just not fun. I got used to it though....if i could find a house with known paranormal activity, i would buy it in a heartbeat.

COOL so it was not actually a "logical" explanation but a paranormal experience..Awesome..JN

Back to the original subject of this thread, the theory is that a ghost/entity/whatever you want to call it is at least in part composed of some kind of energy. In theory as an entity tries to manifest itself it draws on surrounding energy sources to "power" itself. One of those sources might be drawing the heat energy out of the ambient air. That's why a cold spot is usually very small and localized.

As for thermal imaging, in theory if there is an unexplained cold (or hot) spot in an area it might be paranormal. Keep in mind however that thermal imaging cameras only show surface tempuratures, not ambient temps. So it can definately miss something.

I have experienced cold spots several times (as well as a general suddent drop in ambient temp in a room) with no logical explanation for it. It's freaky!!

WOW guys, thanks for the answers, I never would have thought you'd be so helpful.

There is a common theme amongst your answers in that an entity will come in cold and then draw the heat from the surrounding area in order to 'appear/mainfest' whatever you like to call it.

That does make a lot of sense to me and explains/solves a lot of the conflicting ideas I have come against in my research.

JN, re the cold chills, do you believe that it is always the touch that causes it or do you / others feel there are other explanations... only reason I ask is that in the past three weeks, I have been experiencing these a really lot and it makes me physically shudder, like a shiver going right down my spine - it's that old saying my mum has of 'someone walking over your grave'!

I really liked that video about the Thermal Imaging and the reader.

Jackal, gracious as ever, thank you.

SS, wow, I love the way you think.

MasterPo, an expert at explanation, thank you.

More Q's to follow in other Topics, if you don't mind guys.

I don't see why it would be any different from a room to a person. This theory about "drawing heat from surrounding sources" seems very good. Unfortunately, sometimes we're the source



Cob web feeling! Now that one drives me nuts at times.

"Is a cobweb on my face, is there a spider there!" I demand answers from my husband, because if there is a spider there, I will order that he removes it immediately But there never is, there isn't even an itsy bitsy insect or anything.

Rather than coming in "cold" I'd rather say it's "weak" (low energy) and is trying to gather energy to manifest. So it might draw heat from the ambient environment as a source of energy. Whether it's doing this willingly/conciously or just a matter of the physics involved with manifesting I don't know. Not sure if anyone does, yet.