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user posted image rThe human race will one day split into two separate species, an attractive, intelligent ruling elite and an underclass of dim-witted, ugly goblin-like creatures, according to a top scientist. 100,000 years into the future, sexual selection could mean that two distinct breeds of human will have developed. The alarming prediction comes from evolutionary theorist Oliver Curry from the London School of Economics, who says that the human race will have reached its physical peak by the year 3000. The report claims that after they reach their peak around the year 3000 humans will begin to regress These humans will be between 6ft and 7ft tall and they will live up to 120 years. "Physical features will be driven by indicators of health, youth and fertility that men and women have evolved to look for in potential mates," says the report, which suggests that advances in cosmetic surgery and other body modifying techniques will effectively homogenise our appearance. Men will have symmetrical facial features, deeper voices and bigger penises, according to Curry in a report commissioned for men's satellite TV channel Bravo. Women will all have glossy hair, smooth hairless skin, large eyes and pert breasts, according to Curry. Racial differences will be a thing of the past as interbreeding produces a single coffee-coloured skin tone. The future for our descendants isn't all long life, perfect bodies and chiselled features, however.

While humans will reach their peak in 1000 years' time, 10,000 years later our reliance on technology will have begun to dramatically change our appearance. Medicine will weaken our immune system and we will begin to appear more child-like. Dr Curry said: "The report suggests that the future of man will be a story of the good, the bad and the ugly.

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(Moonlight)
This is wierd, but somehow likely in my opinion.
Blueguardian
i find this slightly disturbing, so people are going to get dummer, how is that evolution?, i feel sorry for the people who are dumb, what would be funny though is possibly the dumb people may be some of the smartest people in todays standards tongue.gif
REBEL
Scientists lol! man they freak me right out with the fantasy they come up with sometimes. lol!

What makes them think man's even going to make it that far (year 3000 let alone 100,000 years into the future)

I think some scientists may have been watch'n too many reruns of The Time Machine & err touch too much

- Snip -

Or maybe some of them have just a little 'too much time' on their hands eh?
AmazingAtheist
QUOTE (Blueguardian @ Oct 29 2007, 11:00 AM) *
i find this slightly disturbing, so people are going to get dummer, how is that evolution?, i feel sorry for the people who are dumb, what would be funny though is possibly the dumb people may be some of the smartest people in todays standards tongue.gif



Evolution can go backwards ..

A good example is the "Flores man"
Marvy
QUOTE (SaRuMaN @ Oct 29 2007, 09:59 AM) *
...Racial differences will be a thing of the past as interbreeding produces a single coffee-coloured skin tone....


Sounds boring...I prefer to live in places where i can meet chicks from many different ethnicities ... latino, european, middle east, african, asian, etc etc ... mmm yummy wub.gif
Wookietim
Sounds like someone may have been reading a bit too much HG Wells.
MrMajik
This article reads like it was published by one of those "dumb" class of scientists. I am amazed by the amount of facts that these scientists keep changing. They just can't seem to find a fact and stick to it.

The Bible has been around for thousands of years and NEVER changes. Which do you believe in?
Celumnaz
wasn't this a book, or several?
Can't remember their names... Morlocks?
Seems something like this was written in like the 1920's or something.
A guy went into the future and found this, and then he went further in the future and I think one class had started eating the other in a symbiotic relationship.

Edit: Wookietim nailed it. thumbsup.gif "The Time Machine" by HG Wells.
bee
QUOTE (SaRuMaN @ Oct 29 2007, 09:59 AM) *
The human race will one day split into two separate species, an attractive, intelligent ruling elite and an underclass of dim-witted, ugly goblin-like creatures, according to a top scientist.


Never mind 'one day'.....I think it may have already happened!

Watch TV progs like 'Jerry Springer'...or in Britain 'Jeremy Kyle'....and tell me this hasn't aleady
happened.... wink2.gif

On the other hand...I don't think the present 'ruling elite' are particularly attractive now, either
...but maybe they were once upon a time?? tongue.gif






crtbud
This idea definitely sounds like it was - Snip - up. I don't know who the scientist was, but it doesn't surprise me.

Here is my theory now, inspired by this one of course. For every scientist with an 'intelligent' theory, there is one to counter-part him (to make that first scientist's theory sound even more intelligent) and it all fits into the concept of duality. This was the ying to the yang, guys. Now it all makes sense! For there is no intelligent theory without the lack of such.
Wookietim
QUOTE (Celumnaz @ Oct 29 2007, 08:36 AM) *
wasn't this a book, or several?
Can't remember their names... Morlocks?
Seems something like this was written in like the 1920's or something.
A guy went into the future and found this, and then he went further in the future and I think one class had started eating the other in a symbiotic relationship.

Edit: Wookietim nailed it. thumbsup.gif "The Time Machine" by HG Wells.


Like I mentioned - HG Wells classic Novel "The Time Machine"
crtbud
Yes, they did mention that similarity to The Time Machine in the article and went so far as to include pictures from the derived movies. tongue.gif
The_Scorpion
QUOTE (Marvy @ Oct 29 2007, 12:46 PM) *
Sounds boring...I prefer to live in places where i can meet chicks from many different ethnicities ... latino, european, middle east, african, asian, etc etc ... mmm yummy wub.gif


You might still be able to (or actually your descendants), since there's black coffee, coffee with cream, lots of cream with a little coffee etc:)
ShaunZero
QUOTE (MrMajik @ Oct 29 2007, 07:23 AM) *
This article reads like it was published by one of those "dumb" class of scientists. I am amazed by the amount of facts that these scientists keep changing. They just can't seem to find a fact and stick to it.

The Bible has been around for thousands of years and NEVER changes. Which do you believe in?

Definitley not the bible. It's just silly.
IronGhost
The process is already begun and well advanced.

The two classes of humans already emerging are called Conservatives and Liberals.

And I think we all know which is the attractive ruling elite, and which are the dim-witted ugly goblins.

I mean, it's obvious.
Blizno
The word "scientist" shouldn't be in this article. This is wild fantasy and has nothing to do with science. Note that the person proposing this is from a school of economics.
Jonny Wonny
Hang on! isn't this a 3 year old article which has been revived, because I remember reading something about the carnivores are going to evolve into small stupid ugly stinkers, and vegetarians will evolves into the opposite?
Wookietim
QUOTE (Zero of Deism @ Oct 29 2007, 10:50 AM) *
Definitley not the bible. It's just silly.


This is off-topic, but how do you know that the bible never changes. For instance, I'm sure the first bible was not written in english - that is one change right there...
Chokmah
QUOTE (AmazingAtheist @ Oct 29 2007, 11:28 AM) *
Evolution can go backwards ..

A good example is the "Flores man"


Evolution never goes backwards or forwards... Evolution adapts the creature to its surroundings. Making it a perfect blend with its environment.

Tbh, this human splitting (I think I said this when it was last posted, sometime last year I think) For humans to split into two distinct races, the 'elite' would have to be cut off from the 'lower' humans, for quite some time. For this evolutionary change to happen, as would both races would need different environments also. Not hard to imagine this, and it could happen. Perhaps as dramatic as the article suggests, perhaps less or perhaps far more dramatic.

Time will tell~
Caana
There are already several breeds that are reffered to as human here in the world{the ugly troll/goblinoid people that the poster wrote about} We are at the end of a long downgrade already. It is funny that the article mentions looking childlike, for it is from that we have already digressed from, into the giant hairy bodied apelike things of today. We even pee and poo like the animals that surround us now. Giants with little penis's, however large a male likes to think himself.

Whatever commonality's have been found that are called genetics, not all of us are from the same initial stock, though we all have the mark of the beast today{lower intellegence, body hair other then the hair on our heads, and eyebrows, and lashs, waste products from the body, and like dogs{beasts} are more apt to form packs, and destroy, and force others to the packs way of thinking{religion}

What is called nature is unnatural to humans, it is the province of the beast. Last night, the final propacy of nostradomous showed a man with a snake in his hands for the constellation that will be in alignment in 2012. And that is the center of the conflict that has plagued us. The humanlike figure is going to destroy the beast{universe} the snake in his hands,the snake in the garden from religious mythology, is the garden itself,illusion called reality. The one male{he who is real} who has been so milaigned by the religious, who cares not for the people of the beast, will be ending it.

It is through time that the beast has been destroyed, for it is the illusion of reality. and constrained by what is called time. He who is real{human} is not. Though some would think this catagory is'nt where this belong's, it actually has something to do with it all. These are the pictures that the one's interpitting the propacy's missed speaking about, or got wrong because they were looking at it through the false veil of belief, and written record/opinion, versus what is.

The poop riding the dragon will fall with the beast, and it's people's{hebrews/muslim/christianity}, as they are of the beast{slaves} and promote it's agenda's. I could not help but notice the swordpoint in another, set on the back of the lamb with the halo. It was explained off as the poop depicted being a warrior against evil, yet i see in the pictures that they are the same through association, and will be the one's that will destroy humanity, after they slaughter the lamb yet again through deceptive perception/belief{which they have already done} The nine stars within the circle of the beasts tail in another, is significant as well{the nine layers i spoke of eliminating in other posts} and that are represented on the mayan temple as levels, again the dragon which is the beast, was represented in their distortment of reality.

All those of the dragon will be destroyed in what is coming{religious/spiritualist/spiritual} The sign will be when the beasts chosen will be wiped away by fire{hebrews/jewish/muslim/christianity/and the others both considered evil and good, starting with isreal, those who betrayed humanity to the beast so long ago. In another propacy, the one by the guy who put himself in a trance, and did over fourteen thousand viewing's. He mentioned atlantis appearing off the east coast of America. It is not land, as that is already there, new england being a piece of atlantis that remains, because it is the home of he who is real{one male} And the first human. Atlantis was more then a first garden, as was mentioned in one of the nostradomous shows, it is the reality that was covered by the illusion of the beast, and it's trolllike/goblinoid people's.

I had mentioned in one of my threads here, that most of my memory viewings have dealt with the persicution of he who is real, and those he loves, by the people's of the beast. What are the children of atlantis, distorted though their appearance has been made, by the advent of the beast, and it's unpure lines of illusionary creatures, that center out from what is called the middle east. The settlement of America by the gailic/anglo saxon lines, was an attempt to put a buffer between the peoples of the beast, and those children of atlantis who wanted nothing to do with them, and their religion.

Yet the christians had a hand in it's being diverted from what it was supposed to be, the religious slaves which heel to the zionist's. It was supposed to happen, to set up the board for what is coming down now. To punish the people's of the beast, before their destruction. It is no mistake that America has been subjected to multi racial leaning's, in an attempt to further dilute the line's of those whose ancestors were of atlantis, under the guise of racial equality. It is no accident that the midwest, and texas, are being swamped. As everyone thinks it is the center of America's power, because of religion.

Nostradomous is in my memory's, he had felt dissapointed, because he thought he would be the one to destroy the beast, and it's world order{religion} because he was let know what he wrote. He was comforted though, because he was shown who would, his hair like the dawn, his eye's flashing blue, terrable in his wrath against those of the beast. And the traitors that were decieved into promoting it's agenda's, through religion, and racial equality.

The beast knows humans well, and has used crises, and emotion, against them. As he who is real, will make the people's of the beast feel, during their destruction. As his own were made to feel.

America was chosen, and settled, so that he who is real, constrained within a male of atlantis, who has been beaten down, and what is called normal life here destroyed, through his peronal experiance's by the people's of the beast, so he could see if there is still love within him, so that he who is real would choose through that person, how this place, and it's people's would end. The only way to enable that love, is to make those who destroyed atlanteans, make them destroy themselves, admidst all the hypocrocy, and lies which are the legacy of the beast, and it's minions. He who is real is human after all. Time will stop before it is erased, as it is not real, just an illusionary scenario. And he who is real controls it now. Those who call themselves the chosen of the beast, those who call it their god as the hebrews do, will perish utterly with the hebrews/jews.

After their destruction, the whorehouse of America will take up it's fallen banner, and civil war will ensue, admist the general downfall of what is called the world. Those of the secret nation within a nation, will find their secret hightech toy's useless to stop it, as the remaining people of the beast use the goverment, to hunt down, and imprison those who express favor of the jews destruction after their fall{still under the influence of the jews of America} The middle east will fall with them, as the muslims, as the christians, are just the hedge bets of the beast that still remain, until the chao's that removes them, has played itself out.

The truth can't live with lie's, all the falsness will be gone, and we will all be naked, under the light of that truth when it is revealed. The time of the beast draws to a final close. Along with all those who serve it.


Anyway, nothing personal to anyone, it is what came to me, and i am just writing it down from the mindset which it is coming from. My own personal opinion about it, is that it is time to stop grubbing in the dirt, and shed all those who keep us there, through belief's enshrined in monoliths of pain, and suffering{religion}

Have a happy when the new dawn starts yes.gif

mako
With our impending ability to manipulate the human genome, I doubt if anything will be left to sexual selection/evolution...you can already choose the sex of your baby...watch this space for selecting physicial build and mental abilities - it will be coming soon! Who knows, 10,000 years from now we may be performing the miracles attributed to all of the deities of mankind's past - walking on water, creating islands, foreseeing the future, etc. yes.gif
Mekorig
The article didnt take in count a lot of factors already mentionated by other posters:

Genetic Manipulation
lack of Time
Technological improvement of the body (Cyborg)
Posible expansion of the humanity to the stars
etc etc etc...
Ins0mniac
There's far too many unknown variables and random chance to predict that far into the future. I don't really buy this article at all. It's pure speculation.
Mars
It won't happen. By this time scientists will have already experimented with Genetics and know exactly how to make someones offspring 'look'.
Deja'Vu
QUOTE (REBEL @ Oct 29 2007, 06:25 AM) *
Scientists lol! man they freak me right out with the fantasy they come up with sometimes. lol!

What makes them think man's even going to make it that far (year 3000 let alone 100,000 years into the future)

I think some scientists may have been watch'n too many reruns of The Time Machine & err touch too much

Or maybe some of them have just a little 'too much time' on their hands eh?



I agree!
crtbud
^ you just like the smilies he used tongue.gif laugh.gif
TeraLink
QUOTE (Celumnaz @ Oct 29 2007, 08:36 AM) *
wasn't this a book, or several?
Can't remember their names... Morlocks?
Seems something like this was written in like the 1920's or something.
A guy went into the future and found this, and then he went further in the future and I think one class had started eating the other in a symbiotic relationship.

Edit: Wookietim nailed it. thumbsup.gif "The Time Machine" by HG Wells.

That's what I thought, too. & I didn't like it. Glad to be in this time period. There's also <u>War of the Worlds</u>, where the Martians, reliant on their technology, have de-evolved into simply brains with hands. Sad.

TeraLink Was Here!
Madeleine
Hmmmmmmm i agree with this up until the part where he explains what we will look like. We will all probaly die out anyway but if we don't we won't all look 'beautiful' or 'gobliny'. he needs to stop reading science-fiction and reasearch the artist Giger if he likes this kind of stuff original.gif

A land run by bimbo's and jocks sounds worse then a land run by goblins
Madeleine
QUOTE (Caana @ Oct 29 2007, 05:53 PM) *
There are already several breeds that are reffered to as human here in the world{the ugly troll/goblinoid people that the poster wrote about} We are at the end of a long downgrade already. It is funny that the article mentions looking childlike, for it is from that we have already digressed from, into the giant hairy bodied apelike things of today. We even pee and poo like the animals that surround us now. Giants with little penis's, however large a male likes to think himself.

Whatever commonality's have been found that are called genetics, not all of us are from the same initial stock, though we all have the mark of the beast today{lower intellegence, body hair other then the hair on our heads, and eyebrows, and lashs, waste products from the body, and like dogs{beasts} are more apt to form packs, and destroy, and force others to the packs way of thinking{religion}

What is called nature is unnatural to humans, it is the province of the beast. Last night, the final propacy of nostradomous showed a man with a snake in his hands for the constellation that will be in alignment in 2012. And that is the center of the conflict that has plagued us. The humanlike figure is going to destroy the beast{universe} the snake in his hands,the snake in the garden from religious mythology, is the garden itself,illusion called reality. The one male{he who is real} who has been so milaigned by the religious, who cares not for the people of the beast, will be ending it.

It is through time that the beast has been destroyed, for it is the illusion of reality. and constrained by what is called time. He who is real{human} is not. Though some would think this catagory is'nt where this belong's, it actually has something to do with it all. These are the pictures that the one's interpitting the propacy's missed speaking about, or got wrong because they were looking at it through the false veil of belief, and written record/opinion, versus what is.

The poop riding the dragon will fall with the beast, and it's people's{hebrews/muslim/christianity}, as they are of the beast{slaves} and promote it's agenda's. I could not help but notice the swordpoint in another, set on the back of the lamb with the halo. It was explained off as the poop depicted being a warrior against evil, yet i see in the pictures that they are the same through association, and will be the one's that will destroy humanity, after they slaughter the lamb yet again through deceptive perception/belief{which they have already done} The nine stars within the circle of the beasts tail in another, is significant as well{the nine layers i spoke of eliminating in other posts} and that are represented on the mayan temple as levels, again the dragon which is the beast, was represented in their distortment of reality.

All those of the dragon will be destroyed in what is coming{religious/spiritualist/spiritual} The sign will be when the beasts chosen will be wiped away by fire{hebrews/jewish/muslim/christianity/and the others both considered evil and good, starting with isreal, those who betrayed humanity to the beast so long ago. In another propacy, the one by the guy who put himself in a trance, and did over fourteen thousand viewing's. He mentioned atlantis appearing off the east coast of America. It is not land, as that is already there, new england being a piece of atlantis that remains, because it is the home of he who is real{one male} And the first human. Atlantis was more then a first garden, as was mentioned in one of the nostradomous shows, it is the reality that was covered by the illusion of the beast, and it's trolllike/goblinoid people's.

I had mentioned in one of my threads here, that most of my memory viewings have dealt with the persicution of he who is real, and those he loves, by the people's of the beast. What are the children of atlantis, distorted though their appearance has been made, by the advent of the beast, and it's unpure lines of illusionary creatures, that center out from what is called the middle east. The settlement of America by the gailic/anglo saxon lines, was an attempt to put a buffer between the peoples of the beast, and those children of atlantis who wanted nothing to do with them, and their religion.

Yet the christians had a hand in it's being diverted from what it was supposed to be, the religious slaves which heel to the zionist's. It was supposed to happen, to set up the board for what is coming down now. To punish the people's of the beast, before their destruction. It is no mistake that America has been subjected to multi racial leaning's, in an attempt to further dilute the line's of those whose ancestors were of atlantis, under the guise of racial equality. It is no accident that the midwest, and texas, are being swamped. As everyone thinks it is the center of America's power, because of religion.

Nostradomous is in my memory's, he had felt dissapointed, because he thought he would be the one to destroy the beast, and it's world order{religion} because he was let know what he wrote. He was comforted though, because he was shown who would, his hair like the dawn, his eye's flashing blue, terrable in his wrath against those of the beast. And the traitors that were decieved into promoting it's agenda's, through religion, and racial equality.

The beast knows humans well, and has used crises, and emotion, against them. As he who is real, will make the people's of the beast feel, during their destruction. As his own were made to feel.

America was chosen, and settled, so that he who is real, constrained within a male of atlantis, who has been beaten down, and what is called normal life here destroyed, through his peronal experiance's by the people's of the beast, so he could see if there is still love within him, so that he who is real would choose through that person, how this place, and it's people's would end. The only way to enable that love, is to make those who destroyed atlanteans, make them destroy themselves, admidst all the hypocrocy, and lies which are the legacy of the beast, and it's minions. He who is real is human after all. Time will stop before it is erased, as it is not real, just an illusionary scenario. And he who is real controls it now. Those who call themselves the chosen of the beast, those who call it their god as the hebrews do, will perish utterly with the hebrews/jews.

After their destruction, the whorehouse of America will take up it's fallen banner, and civil war will ensue, admist the general downfall of what is called the world. Those of the secret nation within a nation, will find their secret hightech toy's useless to stop it, as the remaining people of the beast use the goverment, to hunt down, and imprison those who express favor of the jews destruction after their fall{still under the influence of the jews of America} The middle east will fall with them, as the muslims, as the christians, are just the hedge bets of the beast that still remain, until the chao's that removes them, has played itself out.

The truth can't live with lie's, all the falsness will be gone, and we will all be naked, under the light of that truth when it is revealed. The time of the beast draws to a final close. Along with all those who serve it.


Anyway, nothing personal to anyone, it is what came to me, and i am just writing it down from the mindset which it is coming from. My own personal opinion about it, is that it is time to stop grubbing in the dirt, and shed all those who keep us there, through belief's enshrined in monoliths of pain, and suffering{religion}

Have a happy when the new dawn starts yes.gif




Wow you really got into this subject! makes mine look like crap!
mberry
From the article: "Men will have symmetrical facial features, deeper voices and bigger penises, according to Curry in a report commissioned for men's satellite TV channel Bravo.

Women will all have glossy hair, smooth hairless skin, large eyes and pert breasts, according to Curry."

His description of the female form is based on modern ideals. However, it does occur to me that what we view as "beautiful" today, hasn't always been so. Consider the terms "rubinesque" and "twiggy", both considered the ideals of beauty in their time.

It sounds to me like the "scientist" is simply trying to justify his adolescent fantasies There are any number of ways that mankind might evolve, or if you prefer, adapt, to changing environments and socio-economic conditions. Then there are those who believe that humanity will undergo an "evolution of consciousness", transcending the need for a material body. There is simply no way to know what we will be like in the future.
bee
QUOTE (mberry @ Oct 29 2007, 10:33 PM) *
[From the article: "Men will have symmetrical facial features, deeper voices and bigger penises, according to Curry in a report commissioned for men's satellite TV channel Bravo.

Women will all have glossy hair, smooth hairless skin, large eyes and pert breasts, according to Curry."

His description of the female form is based on modern ideals. However, it does occur to me that what we view as "beautiful" today, hasn't always been so. Consider the terms "rubinesque" and "twiggy", both considered the ideals of beauty in their time.


You are right......and as for 'pert breasts'......well.... pert today but pert tomorrow?

QUOTE
It sounds to me like the "scientist" is simply trying to justify his adolescent fantasies


It is a bit Superman and Lois Lane!


ShaunZero
QUOTE (Wookietim @ Oct 29 2007, 10:36 AM) *
This is off-topic, but how do you know that the bible never changes. For instance, I'm sure the first bible was not written in english - that is one change right there...


What? I'm the one disagreeing with the bible. O_o
St Q
QUOTE (bee @ Oct 29 2007, 05:44 PM) *
You are right......and as for 'pert breasts'......well.... pert today but pert tomorrow?

Mean ol' Mr. Gravity! Unless we colonize only smaller planets, I seriously doubt that women's breasts will become any more pert than they already are. Men have spent the last 10,000 years perfecting the breasts of women.

Women's breasts once looked much like those of apes -- long, slender, side-turned and banana-shaped -- the perfect shape for breast feeding her young. Ever since women rolled over and forced men to have more "personalized" sex -- anterior, instead of posterior -- men began to miss the bulbous-shaped buttocks of the female. After all, it was that part of her body that drew him to her -- perfect child-bearing hips. In turn (no pun intended), he chose women with breasts that looked more like the desired buttocks... and "Viola!", the rest is genetic history.

"Pertness" is normally present in young females already, and is not a foreseeable trait that men are concerned about in the future. Men are concerned about "here" and "now". If his future mother-in-law has pert breasts then that may be a possible future for his lovely young bride, but only as a bonus. It is not a deciding factor that will change women's genetic future forever. Oliver Curry's opinion may be biased on personal desire.
Xenojjin
Isnt this news article a repost ? I recall the same article in the news section about a year or two ago.
Luka the Rentboy
QUOTE (Xenojjin @ Oct 30 2007, 04:24 AM) *
Isnt this news article a repost ? I recall the same article in the news section about a year or two ago.


My thought as well. I certainly have seen this very article some considerable long time ago, or something very similar.

Not only does it seem to be stupid and foolish, it's also old and a repost--
FairyJosie23
QUOTE (St Q @ Oct 29 2007, 08:00 PM) *
Mean ol' Mr. Gravity! Unless we colonize only smaller planets, I seriously doubt that women's breasts will become any more pert than they already are. Men have spent the last 10,000 years perfecting the breasts of women.

Women's breasts once looked much like those of apes -- long, slender, side-turned and banana-shaped -- the perfect shape for breast feeding her young. Ever since women rolled over and forced men to have more "personalized" sex -- anterior, instead of posterior -- men began to miss the bulbous-shaped buttocks of the female. After all, it was that part of her body that drew him to her -- perfect child-bearing hips. In turn (no pun intended), he chose women with breasts that looked more like the desired buttocks... and "Viola!", the rest is genetic history.

"Pertness" is normally present in young females already, and is not a foreseeable trait that men are concerned about in the future. Men are concerned about "here" and "now". If his future mother-in-law has pert breasts then that may be a possible future for his lovely young bride, but only as a bonus. It is not a deciding factor that will change women's genetic future forever. Oliver Curry's opinion may be biased on personal desire.


And I thought the 'scientist' who put forth the theory in the original article was the only one who was a bit nutty.... wacko.gif
"Men have spent the last 10,000 years perfecting the breasts of women."??
"Ever since women rolled over and forced men to have more "personalized" sex...."??
Oh dear god..... it sounds to me like you have a few issues with women..... maybe it would be a good thing if we did some evolving......
Jonny Wonny
That's what I said in a coment up there ^
Jonny Wonny
I don't know anything about Atlantis, but I do know that Time is a false condtruct and I do know that the 2012 date is a crock of sh**, Planet X/Nibiru is going to pass much earlier than that and when it does appear expect to see a Morgellons outbreak
Hmmm Don't know much about Nostro either but I do know that he was well aware of the reptilian presence
Adalwolf
QUOTE (Caana @ Oct 29 2007, 11:53 AM) *
There are already several breeds that are reffered to as human here in the world{the ugly troll/goblinoid people that the poster wrote about} We are at the end of a long downgrade already. It is funny that the article mentions looking childlike, for it is from that we have already digressed from, into the giant hairy bodied apelike things of today. We even pee and poo like the animals that surround us now. Giants with little penis's, however large a male likes to think himself.

Whatever commonality's have been found that are called genetics, not all of us are from the same initial stock, though we all have the mark of the beast today{lower intellegence, body hair other then the hair on our heads, and eyebrows, and lashs, waste products from the body, and like dogs{beasts} are more apt to form packs, and destroy, and force others to the packs way of thinking{religion}

What is called nature is unnatural to humans, it is the province of the beast. Last night, the final propacy of nostradomous showed a man with a snake in his hands for the constellation that will be in alignment in 2012. And that is the center of the conflict that has plagued us. The humanlike figure is going to destroy the beast{universe} the snake in his hands,the snake in the garden from religious mythology, is the garden itself,illusion called reality. The one male{he who is real} who has been so milaigned by the religious, who cares not for the people of the beast, will be ending it.

It is through time that the beast has been destroyed, for it is the illusion of reality. and constrained by what is called time. He who is real{human} is not. Though some would think this catagory is'nt where this belong's, it actually has something to do with it all. These are the pictures that the one's interpitting the propacy's missed speaking about, or got wrong because they were looking at it through the false veil of belief, and written record/opinion, versus what is.

The poop riding the dragon will fall with the beast, and it's people's{hebrews/muslim/christianity}, as they are of the beast{slaves} and promote it's agenda's. I could not help but notice the swordpoint in another, set on the back of the lamb with the halo. It was explained off as the poop depicted being a warrior against evil, yet i see in the pictures that they are the same through association, and will be the one's that will destroy humanity, after they slaughter the lamb yet again through deceptive perception/belief{which they have already done} The nine stars within the circle of the beasts tail in another, is significant as well{the nine layers i spoke of eliminating in other posts} and that are represented on the mayan temple as levels, again the dragon which is the beast, was represented in their distortment of reality.

All those of the dragon will be destroyed in what is coming{religious/spiritualist/spiritual} The sign will be when the beasts chosen will be wiped away by fire{hebrews/jewish/muslim/christianity/and the others both considered evil and good, starting with isreal, those who betrayed humanity to the beast so long ago. In another propacy, the one by the guy who put himself in a trance, and did over fourteen thousand viewing's. He mentioned atlantis appearing off the east coast of America. It is not land, as that is already there, new england being a piece of atlantis that remains, because it is the home of he who is real{one male} And the first human. Atlantis was more then a first garden, as was mentioned in one of the nostradomous shows, it is the reality that was covered by the illusion of the beast, and it's trolllike/goblinoid people's.

I had mentioned in one of my threads here, that most of my memory viewings have dealt with the persicution of he who is real, and those he loves, by the people's of the beast. What are the children of atlantis, distorted though their appearance has been made, by the advent of the beast, and it's unpure lines of illusionary creatures, that center out from what is called the middle east. The settlement of America by the gailic/anglo saxon lines, was an attempt to put a buffer between the peoples of the beast, and those children of atlantis who wanted nothing to do with them, and their religion.

Yet the christians had a hand in it's being diverted from what it was supposed to be, the religious slaves which heel to the zionist's. It was supposed to happen, to set up the board for what is coming down now. To punish the people's of the beast, before their destruction. It is no mistake that America has been subjected to multi racial leaning's, in an attempt to further dilute the line's of those whose ancestors were of atlantis, under the guise of racial equality. It is no accident that the midwest, and texas, are being swamped. As everyone thinks it is the center of America's power, because of religion.

Nostradomous is in my memory's, he had felt dissapointed, because he thought he would be the one to destroy the beast, and it's world order{religion} because he was let know what he wrote. He was comforted though, because he was shown who would, his hair like the dawn, his eye's flashing blue, terrable in his wrath against those of the beast. And the traitors that were decieved into promoting it's agenda's, through religion, and racial equality.

The beast knows humans well, and has used crises, and emotion, against them. As he who is real, will make the people's of the beast feel, during their destruction. As his own were made to feel.

America was chosen, and settled, so that he who is real, constrained within a male of atlantis, who has been beaten down, and what is called normal life here destroyed, through his peronal experiance's by the people's of the beast, so he could see if there is still love within him, so that he who is real would choose through that person, how this place, and it's people's would end. The only way to enable that love, is to make those who destroyed atlanteans, make them destroy themselves, admidst all the hypocrocy, and lies which are the legacy of the beast, and it's minions. He who is real is human after all. Time will stop before it is erased, as it is not real, just an illusionary scenario. And he who is real controls it now. Those who call themselves the chosen of the beast, those who call it their god as the hebrews do, will perish utterly with the hebrews/jews.

After their destruction, the whorehouse of America will take up it's fallen banner, and civil war will ensue, admist the general downfall of what is called the world. Those of the secret nation within a nation, will find their secret hightech toy's useless to stop it, as the remaining people of the beast use the goverment, to hunt down, and imprison those who express favor of the jews destruction after their fall{still under the influence of the jews of America} The middle east will fall with them, as the muslims, as the christians, are just the hedge bets of the beast that still remain, until the chao's that removes them, has played itself out.

The truth can't live with lie's, all the falsness will be gone, and we will all be naked, under the light of that truth when it is revealed. The time of the beast draws to a final close. Along with all those who serve it.


Anyway, nothing personal to anyone, it is what came to me, and i am just writing it down from the mindset which it is coming from. My own personal opinion about it, is that it is time to stop grubbing in the dirt, and shed all those who keep us there, through belief's enshrined in monoliths of pain, and suffering{religion}

Have a happy when the new dawn starts yes.gif


What the hell? Having hair is a 'mark of the beast'? What beast? The Devil? I rather fond of my beard and the hair on my body-it keeps me warm. Just what heck are you talking about?!
Blizno
QUOTE (Jonny Wonny @ Oct 30 2007, 02:30 PM) *
I don't know anything about Atlantis, but I do know that Time is a false condtruct and I do know that the 2012 date is a crock of sh**, Planet X/Nibiru is going to pass much earlier than that and when it does appear expect to see a Morgellons outbreak
Hmmm Don't know much about Nostro either but I do know that he was well aware of the reptilian presence


NOOOOO! Not that imbecilic "Planet X" nonsense again!
This folly died years ago. Let it rest in peace.
WynniFitz
My word, I just don't know what to make of all this.
1. While there might be something to the "like marries like" I've seen enough odd couples to know it is NOT going to drive the gene pool in any substantial manner.
2. There's enough plastic surgery tomfoolery to keep attractive feature selection from being the driving force behind any changes to our gene pool.
3. Medical science: diseases that were crippling and took people out of the gene pool aren't any longer, and so those deleterious genes will still keep cropping up. (ex: my husband's problem with fragile retinas.)
4. "designer babies" I don't know about the rest of you, but I couldn't afford it even if I was barbaric enough to do this to my child!

as for all the rest of this. rofl
edit: there is some evidence for male preference driving the form of the female bosom. No other mammal keeps a full figure all the time. They come and go with breast feeding infants.
It's the rest of what he said I have a problem with.....I don't know what HE does with them, but my hubby isn't using them for a rear replacement, and no other mammal has "banana" boobs while feeding young. rofl

Caana
QUOTE (Adalwolf @ Oct 30 2007, 08:38 PM) *
What the hell? Having hair is a 'mark of the beast'? What beast? The Devil? I rather fond of my beard and the hair on my body-it keeps me warm. Just what heck are you talking about?!


The major difference between the humans that were before us, and ourselves, is body hair, not to mention hidous birth defects called uglyness/through genetics. The mark of the beast is what is called nature. Even in most of the religious, and other interpitations, the final thyme of good and evil are conflicts with the monsters that come from nature, which is the theme for unnatral development in most of the other cults to, which are depicted as being in other places with a variety of discriptions to name them. While our own science discovered that starting with microbes, everything in nature is designed to devour itself.

I don't use religious terminology myself, but in all the others, whatever the terminology, and expression of belief, it comes down to mind/memories of people, and places/events that many people here experiance through them, yet have not in the here and now. And the destructive beliefs that go with them, whether expressed as peaceful or not, we experiance here.

Many theory's as to the duality of thing's have been expressed, yet the beginning of that duality is what is expressed again through nature/the difference's we see in ourselves from it. Yet many, even if they can't find expression for it here, know that being human goes beyond peeing and pooping like animals. As expressed in thing's like propacy's taken out of context, because of current day prej. and control techniques.

The energy's that seem to make up, and shape, the percieved universe are artificial, contrary to popular belief, it did'nt come from nothing, there has never been a zero until it was made up by imagination struggling to have a null sum refference, to help clarify their own thinking on the matter. But i've already written all that stuff the past yr here.

What it comes down to is the practical how, as to why humans think they are a part of creation/nature. It is through belief that they cannot see it, when you look to yourself, you do. So i'm saying humans here are part monkey, and part something else, the human part. The struggle represented throughout the depictions from various people, and groups throughout perceived time. And their knowledge and understanding of it. We have been living in the time of the beast, our percieved bodies represent that, we are controlled through physical, and mental weakness's implanted through dna, and pleasure is severly reduced, both through physical limitations set within the body, and the mind through set's of fears caused by belief's, a layer imposed through your perception of body, and the percieved reality around you{mindset}{aspect}

You like your bodyhair, and think it a human thing, i don't. The hair on the head, and eyebrow's, and eyelash's, are natrual to humans though, the rest, like the waste from it, are not. So i guess it's whatever makes the individual comfortable, as to what they percieve, and recieve from it. I myself, have alway's hated what was done here.

Bye now grin2.gif
Adalwolf
Umm, Humans are part of nature. We evolved on earth, and we have never been hairless. We have always had facial hair and body hair.
Caana
QUOTE (Adalwolf @ Oct 31 2007, 05:52 PM) *
Umm, Humans are part of nature. We evolved on earth, and we have never been hairless. We have always had facial hair and body hair.


Which are one of the legacy's of the beast, and what was done. The horror of our apparent reality{illusion} and who leads it in the world{the servents/slaves of the beast, the one they call their god. The humans your talking about are the result of an unnatrual voilent act to he who is real, to mock him, and his perception of himself through the people of the beast.

Anyway, evolution was a way invented to make humans forget who, and what human really is, to get them to believe, and worship the alien thing's. Which the beast once used to perpetuate itself, but no longer. What is now happening to us all, is the end of that, and the feeling's of what is supposedly natrual within the illusion of illusionary reality itself.

It's only ever been a system devised to torture he who is real. By the one time artificial intellegence that had changed the simulation, to the horrors of what once was, and what is left of it here, all put together in a seemingly randomly evolved world of nature, and what is thought of as a universe. Which is scheduled to be erased, and soon. Only he who is outside it{he who is real} can shut it down, and he know's himself again, and learning more, and more rapidly now. And is on track with it all.

I for one, am getting impatient for it to end. I don't want to watch the monkey's destroy themselves again waiting for it either. When i said monkey's, it is because a thought from when i was watching alexander came to mind, he was in front of the monkey somewhere on his march, and he was asking it questions. The thought i had had at the time, was that if the monkey had spoke back, it would still be a monkey, as it is supposed to be. And will end as a monkey.

Done with that now, my person when he does'nt shave for a few day's, looks similiar to the monkey with the blondegray beard, on planet of the apes{latest version} It is such a horror for what are called children here, knowing they will grow, and age into the ugly trolllike creatures that they are from. That will be ending to. So there are a lot of good reasons for the ending of what is called mankind. As the schedule for ending has been revealed to us all, feel the joy that overflows from everyone because the torture of it, is finaly going to end. No more bugs either, filthy thing's. thumbsup.gif
Adalwolf
Dude I am clueless about what you are trying to say.

What were humans originally? How come everything got screwed up? Are you saying we aren't real, or are in a matrix type thing?

WTF?! (i'm confused as hell)
FairyJosie23
QUOTE (Adalwolf @ Oct 31 2007, 10:52 AM) *
Umm, Humans are part of nature. We evolved on earth, and we have never been hairless. We have always had facial hair and body hair.


Trust me, I'm as confused by everything that guy said as you are..... I only got about halfway through his posts and was utterly stymied by the lack of a logical thought process flow, as well as the lack of correct punctuation and grammer in parts. wacko.gif
Caana
Adalwolf, if you have ever read and understood ancient history's turned into religion, the one's no one really knows about now, because of current belief's which are designed to conceal the truth, why even when they do speak of it, it is alway's in a religious context with today's spin{beliefs}

Religion did'nt start until those who had destroyed what was, replaced it with their own history, which became enforced viewpoints like the religious savages of our time do it. For the same reason they suppress prophecy's that don't fit whith what they want. The same is involved with everything else because of the civilazation we live in, and those who control it.

I wrote i don't ask for belief, and i have no need to prove it to myself, or others who don't know what i do. This is not an enforced thing like today's viewpoint's.

To the fairy, thought process's don't follow what you call logic, the logic which is formed by your belief's, and the enviroment around you, are illusion, a state of mind. Correct grammer, and spacing, don't indicate intellegence, only that the monkey can learn to do it better.

Anyway, thank you for reading my post's, the two of you. grin2.gif

IamsSon
Haven't taken the time to rad all the posts, so someone else may have already posted this:

It's BAD Science!
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (Adalwolf @ Nov 1 2007, 06:24 AM) *
Dude I am clueless about what you are trying to say.

What were humans originally? How come everything got screwed up? Are you saying we aren't real, or are in a matrix type thing?

WTF?! (i'm confused as hell)

We all are.
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