I couldn't find the thread where Ed posted the image like the one below,and where we found
three consecutive views in the photo archives.

The solution was not obvious. But it turned out to be related to
http://members.aol.com/moonpigeons/

And now, I hear, Hoagland has adopted this image as further 'proof' of his crystal moon cities.

So rather than rain on his parade this weekend in LA, let me hold off on the answer
until he has one last time to champion it as more 'proof positive' of his theories.


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At the moment it's on Page 6, but you can always find the thread by the title: "What is IT?, A NASA photo with a mysterious object"

that pic looks like a shred of paper, flake of paint, piece of eggshell or any number of probable scrap. It certainly doesn't look like anything crystal to me, let alone an entire city. What's it actually a picture of & what's the history of this particular pic that makes it interesting at all?

and considering there is only 1 picture (something like this if it was real, there would be more focus on this "object" and more pictures)

Its a tear or perhaps some kind of glitch. Unless someone comes up with more photos at different angles, but that will be unlikely.

I made this same mistake -- it shows up in three consecutive pictures.

Up front, I gotta thank Ed for bringing it to my attention, and also for creating the encouraging atmosphere that a 'discovered solution' would be considered seriously (others on this thread contributed to this positive attitude). He has engaged me in constructive dispute over a number of years, often frustrating, often enlightening.

But mainly, he has done so -- however stubbornly -- in a congenial and candid and collegial manner, for which I have always been, and remain, grateful.

Maybe I'll change his mind on some stuff, maybe I won't. I feel he has made MY views better, even from times to time, different.

Here, the full pic, don´t miss it:

http://www.keithlaney.net/ApolloOrbitalima...s10-28-3990.jpg

The photos puzzle me, of course. But what puzzles me, and I'm jumping the gun in saying so, is that I've found no comments from the photographing astronaut(s), or from NASA, yet the photos are available to the public. These are the kinds of photos that, if the NASA critics were correct, would be hidden from the public and only a few would be privy to it.

Can you, Jim, contact the Apollo 10 crew members: Thomas P. Stafford, Commander; John W. Young, Command Module Pilot; Eugene A. Cernan, Lunar Module Pilot, and ask them as to their reaction to the scene that must have taken place when they came upon this thing "in space" and how they handled it, what they said to each other, what might they have said as it was being photographed, what kind of conversation they might have had with the NASA control team upon their encountering it, you know, the whole shebang. The, hopeful, results would make anything that Hoagland and Bara construct seem like peanuts (packing peanuts!).

In the event that you receive no response from anyone, or responses that it cannot be discussed, please let us know that also with your assessment pro and con.

I await with baited breath.

Looks like a piece of fabric ripped off of the solar sail or something, maybe, oh i don't know...

Looks like ice that came of the spacecraft to me(?)....nice picture.

It is almost certainly a piece of Mylar that came off during a backside maneuver at about MET 188 hours.

During the following front side pass, John Young told MCC,


"This morning when we were turning around, first time, we had about - I estimate - maybe a foot-and- a-half or more of Mylar with that insulation coating on the back of it. It would appear out in front of our window, and I guess it was from the top hatch which is where that insulation came from in the first place. It just sort of sat there for a while, and then quietly floated off."


They had done the maneuver to get the Command Module in position to take photos of the planned Apollo 11 landing site and it seems likely that they had a camera ready with a fresh magazine loaded and took a few pictures of the Mylar.

looks like a flat rock on top view

Good work, Jim. I appreciate your research. Please share with us where you found the conversation, generally.

Now the next step is to see where Hoagland goes with it. I'm sure that if he's not honest, and he inflates his opinion with his usual Hoaglandish (Hoagland+Outlandish=Hoaglandish, thank you), we'll have something on him. Of course if he knows the truth as described by you, and he prefers confabulation, nothing he'll ever say again will earn him our "respect."