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doubletripplequadruplequin
If Satan was in heaven and God was in hell, would you worship Satan?
SG Wolf 222
if Satan was in heaven and god was in hell then heaven WOULD be hell and hell would be heaven...though i do not have a bealife but thats how i would look at it

if Satan was in heaven and god was in hell then heaven WOULD be hell and hell would be heaven...though i do not have a bealife but thats how i would look at it
SG Wolf 222
*belief
doubletripplequadruplequin
No, heaven is still the land of milk and honey, but Satan and all of his evilness is the ruler. Hell is still a lake of fire, a place of torture, but somehow God was thrown out of heaven into hell. The message is still the same from both of them.
Fantailmoon
Very strange question, i suppose i would believe in the one with the most good in there belief system. Evil is Evil no matter where it resides.
Also i find this odd because God could not be thrown from heaven as he created everything and if he wished to walk through hell he probably could. grin2.gif
♥BeautifulDisaster♥
Wow... This is a great question. I'd have to say no, though. No matter where which resided, I would still choose good over 'evil'. yes.gif
Godofcats
this is a strange question. but yeah i said no because it's all about good and evil.
Mr Walker
Given your scenario, and the nature of "satan" and "god", heaven would soon become hell, and hell become heaven. Good management makes all the difference.
doubletripplequadruplequin
QUOTE (Mr Walker @ Nov 4 2007, 10:02 PM) *
Given your scenario, and the nature of "satan" and "god", heaven would soon become hell, and hell become heaven. Good management makes all the difference.


No, according to the Bible Satan did not create hell, God did. Regardless, no, not in this scenerio, heaven stays as heaven is and hell stays as hell is. If you worship God you go to hell for an eternity of torture in a lake of fire. If you worship Satan you go to heaven where there is no shortage of anything and everything is pleasant.
mscathy
Very well said Mr Walker.
kanji
QUOTE (doubletripplequadruplequin @ Nov 4 2007, 05:18 PM) *
No, according to the Bible Satan did not create hell, God did. Regardless, no, not in this scenerio, heaven stays as heaven is and hell stays as hell is. If you worship God you go to hell for an eternity of torture in a lake of fire. If you worship Satan you go to heaven where there is no shortage of anything and everything is pleasant.


Actually Hell less a literal place of fire and torture and more about the absence of god. Thats what makes hell hell. What could be worse than knowing there is god, your creator sitting out of your reach for all time. Since i believe hell to be the complete absence of God, then hell becomes heaven in the presence of god.

The entire argument is moot because heaven isn't the place we all go at the end of time anyway. Heaven is still reserved for the angels and God. Earth is remade as it should have been (perfect) and humans are sent back to earth with a new (hopefully multidimensional) body. Its amazing how many people don't actually read revelation.
DieChecker
I voted no also.

This reminds me of the book "The Devil's Day" by James Blish where a arms dealer wants to stir up war and hatred and hires a sorcerer to unleash dozens of demons from Hell to do what they will for one night. The end result is God's overthrow and Satan put as the top of the hierarchy. The kick is that now Satan is not Satan, but is now God and must take on God's responsabilities. So in the end Satan still lost.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE (doubletripplequadruplequin @ Nov 4 2007, 09:11 PM) *
If Satan was in heaven and God was in hell, would you worship Satan?

If satan ever existed..and going by the bible how he is made look the goodie..and how god is made out to be the evil one...then yea Id worship satan lol so I clicked yes for the hell of it PUN INTENDED!! LOL

Mr Walker
QUOTE (doubletripplequadruplequin @ Nov 5 2007, 07:48 AM) *
No, according to the Bible Satan did not create hell, God did. Regardless, no, not in this scenerio, heaven stays as heaven is and hell stays as hell is. If you worship God you go to hell for an eternity of torture in a lake of fire. If you worship Satan you go to heaven where there is no shortage of anything and everything is pleasant.

Actually this is a common misconception, but completely incorrect. An acurate translation of the bible shows, as other writers have indicated that.
1. when you die you go to "sleep".

2. In the end time "The saved" will be resurrected and spend 1000 years in heaven, while satan rules on earth over the damned.
3. At the end of that time, the heavenly city will touch down near jerusalem. Satan, the fallen angels, and the damned will be consumed in a rain of fire and the earth will be cleansed by fire.
4. After that, the earth will be restored to its original condition and the saved will reinhabit it in reborn bodies and souls. These will be human in nature but more in accord with their original design. eg sin free, long lived, and without sickness or disease.

It is also possib,le as Kanji indicates , that they may be different in physical form with more god/angel like abilities. However scripture suggests that if life is similar to that in eden, we will still eat and drink, make love and have a useful purpose in the stewardship of earth, as well as a part in the governance of heaven, as do all those planets where the inhabitants did not give in to satan's deceptions.

Thus, as the bible says, the wages of sin is death, but those who believe will have eternal life. It is not clear whether the early catholic church deliberately falsified the idea of hell for conversion purposes, or whether it was a genuine mistake in translations.

To give a couple of examples. When some sinners are burned, this process may take some time. In the original greek the word used was eon, which indicates a longish but finite time. This was translated to eternity which tends to mean forever in our mind. However, the Bible also refers to some of the prophets and kings reigning on earth for eternity, when clearly their lives were of limited duration. Thus eternity in the original biblical language also meant a longish period of time, but not for ever.

God did not create sin either. He created man with free will. Man chose the knowledge of good and evil over the fruit from the tree of life. In other words, he disobeyed one of god's few restrictions on him. In doing so, he gained something, but the price was both his immortality, and the entry of sin in all its material forms into the earth.

So to summarise for the purpose of this scenario. Where god is, there heaven is. God is the creative force. He would soon turn hell into heaven. Where satan is, hell is. He has always been the deceiver.He lies, manipulates people, and causes; chaos, harm and pain wherever he goes. He would soon turn a heaven (even one filled with good people) into hell. After all, he deceived, and took with him, one third of all the angels in heaven, and they would be more knowledgable and less suggestible than human souls.
doubletripplequadruplequin
Ok, well Satan or Lucifer rose up to God in a time before time. Satan isn't really dumb, so he knew there could be a chance him and his followers could overthrow the hierarchy. Anyway Satan did not succeed and was banned from heaven for eternity.

In this scenerio Lucifer won the war and God is banned from heaven and the 'recreated earth paradise'.
DieChecker
Probably if Satan was ruling in Heaven, and we assume he was still Evil, then everyone would soon be worshipping him. He'd have everyone else killed off one way or another.

That is assuming that anyone would be alive at all. With Satan in the superior position, then God might never have created man, and even if he did, Satan would soon snuff man out or corrupt man completely.

I still would not worship him and would quickly be killed.
doubletripplequadruplequin
By not worshiping Satan you're going to hell as well.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE (doubletripplequadruplequin @ Nov 6 2007, 04:05 PM) *
By not worshiping Satan you're going to hell as well.

laugh.gif I have heard it all now LMAO ....thanks mate I needed a laugh laugh.gif
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