Anyone else from this area seen them?? Ive heard countless people tell me about them! Wondering if anyone on here has seen them? Let me know~! Thanks

yeah what about it ppl i would love to hear more about giant wolves

what do you mean by "giant"?

She means by big scary doggie!

Or a big scary bear.

yeah but these arent pples pets that are looking for hugs and pets & treats they are hunting and surviving on their own in the woods...

I think we'll need a bit more information than that to go on. Try posting some sources, or at least more cohesive anecdotal evidence to back up your original post.

-Madcap

im looking for personal encounters........... I have not had any personal experience which is why im asking others

It's normal for wolves to be in that area - they're closest in the wintertime. I live relatively in the area and we see wolves sometimes, at least once a year and we hear them alot in the winter. They move with the deer, who come in closer to inhabited areas during the winter months as there is more food. We see loads of deer in the winter, more than any other time of the year, and you can bet there's wolves nearby.

A quick google and I found this:

YES! there are giant wolves i was reading it in a hunting magazine
there actually not a certain species they jus have a certain disease i forgot wat it is called
its where ur body gets bigger and ur organs stay the same size
dont worry cause they dont live longer than 3 weeks cause there heart gives out
so thats the reason they look giant

Do you know of any online sites detailing articles on these creatures? And what, precisely, the disease is?

as a matter of fact i do heres the link
http://www.msu.edu/~silvar/hips.htm
this is the disease that dogs can get including wolves

I thought you were going to name something like a myostatin mutation .. that leads to some big looking dogs.. though I'm not sure I would go with giant.

Ive been doing hunting trips into the Little Rideau area of Ontario for most of my life I have seen only 3 wolves in that time nothing out of the ordinary not saying that they arent there but I havent had any experiences with them.

real wolves are NOT suppose to exist in this area, if you contact the MNR they will tell you, you are seeing things cause wolves dont exist here specially the giant timber wolves, these are like phantoms they apprea one min then vanish the next just like they never existed.... Hunters have told me personal storys

Rassy where are you from exactly? thanks

yes they certainly can get big and there no phantoms
they have a known disease growing dogs can get so they appear giant

Wait.. none of those diseases appears to cause excessive growth. It talks about Osteochondrosis and Hip Dysplasia .. those are both weakening of the skeletal structures. It does mention the cause has been proposed as excessive physical growth relative to skeletal development, but they aren't growing 'extra large'. They are simply growing to their normal size faster than their skeletal structure is developing.

If I missed something in the page, let me know.. but neither of these appear to lead to giant canines.

yes i also missed a link that i found yesterday and it it was pretty much the same thing except more detailed

Your correct, nothing on that refered link has anything to do with abnormal growth, they are all extremely common diseases in large breed canines, American Bulldogs, German Shephards, and Mastiffs especially.

I remember reading a little while back about an abnormality that caused the dogs muscles to grow at an exceptional rate, i believe they coined the term "double-muscled", this could possibly be what your refering to?

i think thats right but i know for sure the wolves have a disease i read about it

I linked to that in a previous post in this thread, but it's a genetic abnormality and isn't present in all dog breeds (it occurs in bull whippets).

Edit to Add: Also as far as I can tell from some quick research, while animals with the 'double muscle' do have shorter life spans, it's still measured in years. The mutation has also not been found in other large breeds, including the whippets closest 'cousin' the greyhound. I still haven't found any disease that would cause this or any other extreme growth in a wolf though.

I've seen (and played with) a huge dog once, nothing like I had ever seen before or after, it probably had some genetic mutation that made him way bigger than normal dogs, it looked like this one:

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/310500/310681AfHE_w.jpg

but slightly bigger and its fur was white, the dog was also very sweet and not dangerous at all.

Yeah, I noticed that, too. Hopefully more info will turn up... :\

Well there are some pretty big dogs.. the record holders for are as follows:
Tallest Dog - Great Dane at 42.2 inches at the shoulder, standing upright reaches almost 7 feet(on average Irish wolfhounds are the tallest dog at about 3ft at the shoulder)

Biggest Dog - English Mastiff at 343 lbs and 8 feet 3 inches long from nose to tail.

other then being big wolves are there any other unusually things about them?

yes they arent afraid of humans and dont run away they just stare...........

they appear and vanish....

you never suprise them, they always suprise you boy

ok, any idea on size range or possible coloration?

dark colored or PURE WHITE

size? HUGE bigger then any dog!

interesting, anything else about them?

They are scary, lol.

Anyways, this is funny and cute: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1811

well anything could be scary to some one, and that is cute

yes these things are scary but because of there disease they dont live longer than a month

how rare is the disease and is it genetic or what?

yes the disease is rare BUT
can be passed down from parent to child
that is why if u see a bunch of huge wolves they come from the same family
and it can stay in the family
but it is a rare disease and if you see them in that area more than likely
theres a family of wolves with the same disease
but dont freak out as there size is intimidating but they are jus like any other wolves

I wouldn't freak out even if they were spawn of fenrir. But what is the luckily hood of both parents having the recessive genes for the disease?

thats the idea a rare disease with both parents that is why
the sightings are from the same area
and the chances of both parents having growing disease
is just as much chance as britany spears winning a best parenting oscar
very slim
but if the parents dont give birth in a month the infected parents will die
although some offspring can be born without the disorder

still doesn't explain why they wouldn't be afraid of humans though

because they are sick
and they dont have a care in the world
sick animals are not catious or careful so they will not be afraid
also wolves stare you down if your prey as if to say "im gonna eat you"
wolves study you to see if they can attack and kill or jus forget about you
wolves arent that afraid of humans unless they fell you can kill them

so does anyone have a picture of one of these wolves i would love to see them. I've heard about them, just never could find a pic of them .

actually a sick animal would be more afraid, there are exceptions but that is usually a result of the disease it self. No animal wants to fight when it's sick. Plus wolves don't usually see humans as food

unless your hurt or injured and cant fight bak
also sick animals would be to weak to run away in fear so they will sit there

wolves are normally extremly afraid of humans, theirs like one or two attacks every hundred years

these wolves are bigger then any great danes one hunter told me it was about the size of a male white tailed deer buck

I'm asking, I'm not sure of this. But I've heard of quite a difference between wolves in the New World versus European wolves, that European wolves regularly devoured humans, while the New World wolves did not. Any thoughts? Thanks.

That doesn't even make sense.. the gestation period alone of a wolf is 2 months, not even counting the time it takes for them to reach sexual maturity.

Historically there are typically three main causes I would think ..

1) People just flat out making up stories.. You know the witch trials? It wasn't a good time for wolves either, as any nocturnal predator seemingly was 'of the devil' , so when in doubt blame a wolf.
2) Rabies... diseases back then were much more of an issue, and Europe had more of them.
3) People developing land where the wolves lived and reducing food for them.. wolves are forced into closer contact with people, lose their fear .. and with sufficient lack of wild food or livestock might grab a human or two

from wolftrust.org.uk


So I don't think European wolves were naturally any more hostile.. they just had a much worse environment to work with that probably led to more stories of violence against people.

yeah dont worry no wolf is going to eat you okay? they just stare

yes actually infected wolves with the growing disease die off in about a month or so
so wat i mean is that if the infected parents dont give birth in a month they will die
without having offspring

So.. they all die off without having offspring.. because it's impossible for a wolf to give birth to a viable cub in 1 month. Also I have still been unable to find any disease like this .. even after looking through databases on heritable genetic disorders for canines.. the closest thing causes dwarfism, or just a weakened skeleton... If you could come up with any more details, I would like to read about this disorder.

Actually wolfs arn't that dangerous at all. Only one person has been documented being killed in North America


http://www.hfxnews.ca/index.cfm?sid=76706&sc=89

http://www.hcn.org/servlets/hcn.Article?article_id=16084

Or than theres this that makes me think different hmmmmm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_wolf_attacks