A while back there was a debate on this website called "Pyramids: Alien Help?" and I would like to open it up for discussion on this forum.
link: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=15907
an excerpt:
For thousands of years the legend of visitors from the sky has been with us. From Cave Paintings to the works of the Great Master Painters of the Renaissance UFOs' have appeared in our art. From The Bible to the recent works of Whitley Streiber they have graced our literature..But before the abductions,before the cattle mutilations, there were other stories of Visitors from beyond. Stories of Aliens who worked in harmony with the great civilizations of yesteryear...
And nowhere on Earth is this more evident than Ancient Egypt. The ancient world contained many wonders..The Collosus of Rhodes, the Gardens of Babylon; but although these are all impressive none can match the sheer wonder that is the Pyramids. Never before had such a radical design concept sprang out of nowhere. the sheer size and exactness of measurement is completely different from anything else in the Egyptian school of Architecture. So where did the Idea come from? How was such an impossible work carried out by a people whose technology was rudimentary at best?
In the following posts I will present evidence and pose questions that will hopefully lead you to the same conclusion I have come to: The God-Kings of Ancient Egypt were advised by these "Men From the Stars.".......
follow the debate and its conclusions, I am interested in your opinions on this "Unexplained-Mystery"
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I believe that when the ice melts from global warming we will discover preserved bodies that prove the nephilim, because the humans DNA will be dramatically different and the bone stuctures will be different. I mean we have no idea what well find frozen somewhere like we found the baby mammoth, we can find aliens, and dinosaurs, and other creatures.
I believe that it is a possibility that ET outposts exist here in our planet. Another thing I wanted to mention is the fact that cattle mutilations have always interested me -- as most of the time, there were no traces of footprints or engine burns in the soil. Most cattle mutilations seem to have been performed surgically... which leaves me suspicious. Another theory is that the military are the ones responsible for the mutilations of cattle... but, that just does not sound too logical for some reason.
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"Never before had such a radical design concept sprang out of nowhere. the sheer size and exactness of measurement is completely different from anything else in the Egyptian school of Architecture"
As I understand it, excavations have revealed earlier pyramids, of smaller scale and inferior construction techniques etc. If this is so, then the pyramids did not 'spring out of nowhere' (in design/construction terms), but where part of an orderly, gradual progression which - presumably - started with a pile of rocks and gradualy developed to the great pyramids that we see today.
As such, there is no requirement for 'outsiders' in order to explain how the pyramids came to be designed.
Meow Purr.
QUOTE (dcman @ Nov 6 2007, 06:53 AM) 
For thousands of years the legend of visitors from the sky has been with us. From Cave Paintings to the works of the Great Master Painters of the Renaissance UFOs' have appeared in our art. From The Bible to the recent works of Whitley Streiber they have graced our literature..But before the abductions,before the cattle mutilations, there were other stories of Visitors from beyond. Stories of Aliens who worked in harmony with the great civilizations of yesteryear...
And nowhere on Earth is this more evident than Ancient Egypt. The ancient world contained many wonders..The Collosus of Rhodes, the Gardens of Babylon; but although these are all impressive none can match the sheer wonder that is the Pyramids. Never before had such a radical design concept sprang out of nowhere. the sheer size and exactness of measurement is completely different from anything else in the Egyptian school of Architecture. So where did the Idea come from? How was such an impossible work carried out by a people whose technology was rudimentary at best?
In the following posts I will present evidence and pose questions that will hopefully lead you to the same conclusion I have come to: The God-Kings of Ancient Egypt were advised by these "Men From the Stars.".......
And nowhere on Earth is this more evident than Ancient Egypt. The ancient world contained many wonders..The Collosus of Rhodes, the Gardens of Babylon; but although these are all impressive none can match the sheer wonder that is the Pyramids. Never before had such a radical design concept sprang out of nowhere. the sheer size and exactness of measurement is completely different from anything else in the Egyptian school of Architecture. So where did the Idea come from? How was such an impossible work carried out by a people whose technology was rudimentary at best?
In the following posts I will present evidence and pose questions that will hopefully lead you to the same conclusion I have come to: The God-Kings of Ancient Egypt were advised by these "Men From the Stars.".......
Yawn.
The pyramids didn't spring out of nowhere. There were several builings made in the centuries before that show definate progression from step buildings to pyramid shaped.
Their technology wasn't rudimentary. We are pretty sure that the egyptians were able to do this un-aided.
Well IF they did help them build pyramids (I still dunno what to believe actually, too many stories about aliens or other mystical things, and well like Emma_Acid_88 said, egyptians were able to do it themselves too) It just makes me think that either those were other species of aliens or something like that (MOSTLY modern aliens abduct, and do other nasty stuff, but well there have been few cases where I have heard that they have somehow helped people....) Or maybe its the humans that have changed, probably they were friendlier back then, lets face it, now we are pretty much hostile with all those abduction etc. etc. stories going on. And the reason they built pyramids...Well I dunno, might be a lot of things, starting with - It was the place where put their dead rulers (or whatever, im bad at history) as well as it might be some space coordinate system or something like that.
personally, i don't think it is at all possible for them to have done all of this by themselves. i read somewhere (it may have been in another thread here) some very interesting facts. the stones used were massive. some weighing 100,000 lbs. they had to be transported like 60 miles, i think it was, to the building site. how could they move such HUGE stones THAT far??? also they were put together with such percision, that many of the rooms were water & air tight. how could they have possibly achieved such craftsmanship with "old-school" hand held tools??? i think it said there were also numerous instences of them doing amazing things with granite. however, granite is too hard to be worked with copper chisels (which is all they had). i will admit that i know very little about this subject. like i said, what i am refering to is only what i read here somewhere. the information may or may not be factual. however, it was very eye-opening for me when i read it.
QUOTE (ships-cat @ Nov 6 2007, 11:25 AM)
As I understand it, excavations have revealed earlier pyramids, of smaller scale and inferior construction techniques etc. If this is so, then the pyramids did not 'spring out of nowhere' (in design/construction terms), but where part of an orderly, gradual progression which - presumably - started with a pile of rocks and gradualy developed to the great pyramids that we see today.
As such, there is no requirement for 'outsiders' in order to explain how the pyramids came to be designed.
Meow Purr.
As such, there is no requirement for 'outsiders' in order to explain how the pyramids came to be designed.
Meow Purr.
The Great Pyramid is believed to have been built over a 20 year span. The pyramid is so huge and so perfect we wouldn't be able to construct something in this day and age that will compare. Each giant Stone ranges from 1 to 20 tons in weight, and the Great Pyramid consisted of well over 100,000 stones. But the Egyptians had no machinery, engines, or construction equipment. So the question still lurks, who built the great pyramids?
Theories suggest the Egyptians built these pyramids, but this asks us how Egyptians hauled 20 ton stones and placed them perfectly Hundreds Of Feet high (145.75 m, 481 ft high).. Some suggest they built a ramp with stones that went from the ground to the top.
The flaw in that theory is that It would take More Rocks to build the ramp than it would to build the Pyramid. When the Pyramid was done, where did these rocks go??? So that shoots down that theory...
Another question is How did they move these rocks.. Experts that insist Egyptians built the Pyramid suggest, Trees were cut down and smoothed off, and were used as giant rollers under these 20 ton rocks. If you would roll a 20 ton rock on 5 trees, The tree would be too worn down and awkward to haul another, so these logs would be replaced every Stone. Due to the fact there are over 100,000 stones that make up the pyramid, you would need an excess of a half million trees..
Problem with this theory is the lack of trees in that area. Egypt grows some Date Trees, that's about it. And they certainly wouldn't cut down all their date trees, for dates are one of the main foods in EGYPT!
Now the Great Pyramid was the biggest and tallest of all the Pyramids ever built. Since the Egyptians left us an entire detailed written summary of every event in Egypt imaginable, You would think the building of the greatest Pyramid would be discussed. But it Isn't. The Pyramid was referred to a few times in very early Hieroglyphics. Egyptian writing suggests the Great Pyramid Was Standing Before Egyptians Populated The Land. Ancient hieroglyphics have detailed writings of farming, giving birth, Pharaoh worship, Hunting, Building Structures, etc, BUT the Building Of The Great Pyramid Was Never Mentioned.
If it took 10,000 workers per month over a 20 year span to build the Pyramid like experts suggest, There wouldn't be enough people in a 500 mile radius to make this possible.
Actually ancient Egyptian writing often talk of beings from the sky, the sky opening and bright lights coming down to teach them technology and give them wisdom. Many pictures and symbols resemble ufo's and aliens. POSSIBLY aliens built the Great Pyramid. And these solid long lasting construction techniques were adopted by the Egyptians.
UFO - Pyramids - Human Or Alien Made (Part #1 of 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t2HSeXPIss
...interesting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t2HSeXPIss
...interesting
You have a very good point, dcman.
lol i seriously doubt it
Ive been facinated with the pyramids for quite a long time. Ive read several books on them and just basic facts about the pyramid are mind blowing. The size/weight of the stones used ( and perfectly placed ) and the mathematics involved with the exact measurements throughout the pyramid. Some things I have read include disputes about the age of the pyramid ( could be alot older than what we think ) but probably the thing that puzzles me the most is if such a perfect example of a pyramid was actually built alone by humans, why has it not been duplicated since ( and none before it either ) Wouldnt important knowledge like that be carried on?
I would like to think that as advanced as we are today, that we could duplicate one with ease......and thats not the case.
Im not saying I believe for sure aliens built it either, Im just saying that there are too many unaswered questions ( or answers that dont quite convince me ) to say that the egyptians did this alone.
Facinating subject to say the least
I would like to think that as advanced as we are today, that we could duplicate one with ease......and thats not the case.
Im not saying I believe for sure aliens built it either, Im just saying that there are too many unaswered questions ( or answers that dont quite convince me ) to say that the egyptians did this alone.
Facinating subject to say the least
I am not very knowledgable in this area, but I do agree with you dcman. If the Egyptians have a record of things or beings coming from the sky, then why are these not being looked at by professionals?
To me there seems to be two possible explanations, first they must have had help of some sort, possibly aliens or the giants mentoned in the bible. The bible contains some interesting stories which could be related to this time period. Secondly, maybe they built it by themselves, spending a lifetime to construct one pyramid, or thousands working on the same building. This just doesn't seem logical or like it would be worth all of that effort. Especially if it was meant to be a burrial spot for one person or family, what about the other people and their families? Also if this is how they built it, what did they eat and who prepared it for all of the workers, where did they sleep, procreate, etc.?
To me there seems to be two possible explanations, first they must have had help of some sort, possibly aliens or the giants mentoned in the bible. The bible contains some interesting stories which could be related to this time period. Secondly, maybe they built it by themselves, spending a lifetime to construct one pyramid, or thousands working on the same building. This just doesn't seem logical or like it would be worth all of that effort. Especially if it was meant to be a burrial spot for one person or family, what about the other people and their families? Also if this is how they built it, what did they eat and who prepared it for all of the workers, where did they sleep, procreate, etc.?
QUOTE (dcman @ Nov 6 2007, 08:19 PM)
The Great Pyramid is believed to have been built over a 20 year span. The pyramid is so huge and so perfect we wouldn't be able to construct something in this day and age that will compare. Each giant Stone ranges from 1 to 20 tons in weight, and the Great Pyramid consisted of well over 100,000 stones. But the Egyptians had no machinery, engines, or construction equipment. So the question still lurks, who built the great pyramids?
Theories suggest the Egyptians built these pyramids, but this asks us how Egyptians hauled 20 ton stones and placed them perfectly Hundreds Of Feet high (145.75 m, 481 ft high).. Some suggest they built a ramp with stones that went from the ground to the top.
The flaw in that theory is that It would take More Rocks to build the ramp than it would to build the Pyramid. When the Pyramid was done, where did these rocks go??? So that shoots down that theory...
Another question is How did they move these rocks.. Experts that insist Egyptians built the Pyramid suggest, Trees were cut down and smoothed off, and were used as giant rollers under these 20 ton rocks. If you would roll a 20 ton rock on 5 trees, The tree would be too worn down and awkward to haul another, so these logs would be replaced every Stone. Due to the fact there are over 100,000 stones that make up the pyramid, you would need an excess of a half million trees..
Problem with this theory is the lack of trees in that area. Egypt grows some Date Trees, that's about it. And they certainly wouldn't cut down all their date trees, for dates are one of the main foods in EGYPT!
Now the Great Pyramid was the biggest and tallest of all the Pyramids ever built. Since the Egyptians left us an entire detailed written summary of every event in Egypt imaginable, You would think the building of the greatest Pyramid would be discussed. But it Isn't. The Pyramid was referred to a few times in very early Hieroglyphics. Egyptian writing suggests the Great Pyramid Was Standing Before Egyptians Populated The Land. Ancient hieroglyphics have detailed writings of farming, giving birth, Pharaoh worship, Hunting, Building Structures, etc, BUT the Building Of The Great Pyramid Was Never Mentioned.
If it took 10,000 workers per month over a 20 year span to build the Pyramid like experts suggest, There wouldn't be enough people in a 500 mile radius to make this possible.
Actually ancient Egyptian writing often talk of beings from the sky, the sky opening and bright lights coming down to teach them technology and give them wisdom. Many pictures and symbols resemble ufo's and aliens. POSSIBLY aliens built the Great Pyramid. And these solid long lasting construction techniques were adopted by the Egyptians.
Theories suggest the Egyptians built these pyramids, but this asks us how Egyptians hauled 20 ton stones and placed them perfectly Hundreds Of Feet high (145.75 m, 481 ft high).. Some suggest they built a ramp with stones that went from the ground to the top.
The flaw in that theory is that It would take More Rocks to build the ramp than it would to build the Pyramid. When the Pyramid was done, where did these rocks go??? So that shoots down that theory...
Another question is How did they move these rocks.. Experts that insist Egyptians built the Pyramid suggest, Trees were cut down and smoothed off, and were used as giant rollers under these 20 ton rocks. If you would roll a 20 ton rock on 5 trees, The tree would be too worn down and awkward to haul another, so these logs would be replaced every Stone. Due to the fact there are over 100,000 stones that make up the pyramid, you would need an excess of a half million trees..
Problem with this theory is the lack of trees in that area. Egypt grows some Date Trees, that's about it. And they certainly wouldn't cut down all their date trees, for dates are one of the main foods in EGYPT!
Now the Great Pyramid was the biggest and tallest of all the Pyramids ever built. Since the Egyptians left us an entire detailed written summary of every event in Egypt imaginable, You would think the building of the greatest Pyramid would be discussed. But it Isn't. The Pyramid was referred to a few times in very early Hieroglyphics. Egyptian writing suggests the Great Pyramid Was Standing Before Egyptians Populated The Land. Ancient hieroglyphics have detailed writings of farming, giving birth, Pharaoh worship, Hunting, Building Structures, etc, BUT the Building Of The Great Pyramid Was Never Mentioned.
If it took 10,000 workers per month over a 20 year span to build the Pyramid like experts suggest, There wouldn't be enough people in a 500 mile radius to make this possible.
Actually ancient Egyptian writing often talk of beings from the sky, the sky opening and bright lights coming down to teach them technology and give them wisdom. Many pictures and symbols resemble ufo's and aliens. POSSIBLY aliens built the Great Pyramid. And these solid long lasting construction techniques were adopted by the Egyptians.
Do u have proof that all those facts are correct, im intrested, espically about the building of the pyramid.
UFO - Pyramids - Human Or Alien Made (Part #1 of 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t2HSeXPIss
...interesting
Great video! ( all three ) yes, very interesting....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t2HSeXPIss
...interesting
Great video! ( all three ) yes, very interesting....
QUOTE (gizagirl @ Nov 6 2007, 06:08 PM)
Ive been facinated with the pyramids for quite a long time. Ive read several books on them and just basic facts about the pyramid are mind blowing. The size/weight of the stones used ( and perfectly placed ) and the mathematics involved with the exact measurements throughout the pyramid. Some things I have read include disputes about the age of the pyramid ( could be alot older than what we think ) but probably the thing that puzzles me the most is if such a perfect example of a pyramid was actually built alone by humans, why has it not been duplicated since ( and none before it either ) Wouldnt important knowledge like that be carried on?
I would like to think that as advanced as we are today, that we could duplicate one with ease......and thats not the case.
Im not saying I believe for sure aliens built it either, Im just saying that there are too many unaswered questions ( or answers that dont quite convince me ) to say that the egyptians did this alone.
Facinating subject to say the least
I would like to think that as advanced as we are today, that we could duplicate one with ease......and thats not the case.
Im not saying I believe for sure aliens built it either, Im just saying that there are too many unaswered questions ( or answers that dont quite convince me ) to say that the egyptians did this alone.
Facinating subject to say the least
There are a lot of theories footed about. There may be no record of the pyramids being built by the Egyptians because the Egyptians may not have built them...only found them and built their cities nearby. There are some examples of pryramids being built, which were poor replicas of the great pyramids, but they could not produce one of the same precision. So, who built the Pryamids? Was there "higher intelligences" involved and who are they? Could the pryamids actually have been a temple? What do we know of the Annunaki and the Nephilim? What are ''Antediluvian civilizations''' ?
Oh, I dont think it can be ruled out that a higher power wasnt involved ( whether that be alien or something else we dont yet understand ) I just find it impossible to believe that Egyptians who had not even invented the wheel at the time.....had this great knowledge of mathematics and astrology involved with the pyramid 
hmmmm
Common sense says something else was involved here......even if that means that "gosh", we might have been wrong in previous Egyptian theories and the pyramid.....
( imagine that lol )
hmmmm Common sense says something else was involved here......even if that means that "gosh", we might have been wrong in previous Egyptian theories and the pyramid.....
( imagine that lol )
Awesome videos, thanks. I don't think the Eqyptians constructed the great pyramid. Like they said on the video there is a written history of all of their accomplishments, so if they did build it I think they would have recorded it or at least have something written inside the great pyramid about who constructed it. On the video there were some scientists that said they could have made these huge blocks pretty much the same way we make concrete so I wonder how could they have formed the blocks and managed to get them into place. It's an interesting subject with many different opinions.
We have a lot of information to work with these days as to how the pyramids were built. First off in moving the massive blocks, which they carefully dug out and moved long distance, they actually had dug a series of canals and used waters from the Nile to flood their canals. In order to move a massive block of 100 tons or so, they would load a huge barge with sand to sink it below the water level. Then they would pull the blocks on top of the sand, then they would start unloading the sand from the barge. As the sand was evacuated, the barge would raise with the block(s) aboard and would then be floated close to the building site and unloaded. Not rocket science here folks. I keep wondering why people forget that they had massive cranes made of wood that could easily have swung the blocks upward to build the pyramids. A ramp was not necessary in order to move blocks upwards to the top. A series of lifting cranes made of huge wooden bases could pick up and swing the blocks upward to where another one would then carry it to the next one. The cranes could easily move
all of the blocks to the top. The Science Channel had some excellent shows on "Ancient Machines" which showed that they had some very sophisticated machines back in those days.
One other thing to remember, is that they had several things going for them that we do not have today.. Time and leadership! They had lots of time to donate to the projects, and had the leadership to drive them to build the monuments. Today, we want it done the day after tomorrow, so we look at some huge monument that obviously took a long time to create, and we are baffled by how it was built and engineered with such precision! They did not have all of the problems to deal with as we do today. They had time on their side, and they had a leader that gave them the leadership to get the job done.
As for the perfect alignment and the fascinating precision with which they were built, remember that these people were not slouches by any means. They had a great knowledge of the stars and could do fantastic measurements as well. They had the time and knowledge to achieve great things. It is no wonder that we could not reproduce such a feat today! We are too impatient, and we don't have the desire to do anything great anymore it seems.
I am not one to cater to extraterrestrial help on the pyramids, but Machu Pichu kind of has me perplexed!
all of the blocks to the top. The Science Channel had some excellent shows on "Ancient Machines" which showed that they had some very sophisticated machines back in those days.
One other thing to remember, is that they had several things going for them that we do not have today.. Time and leadership! They had lots of time to donate to the projects, and had the leadership to drive them to build the monuments. Today, we want it done the day after tomorrow, so we look at some huge monument that obviously took a long time to create, and we are baffled by how it was built and engineered with such precision! They did not have all of the problems to deal with as we do today. They had time on their side, and they had a leader that gave them the leadership to get the job done.
As for the perfect alignment and the fascinating precision with which they were built, remember that these people were not slouches by any means. They had a great knowledge of the stars and could do fantastic measurements as well. They had the time and knowledge to achieve great things. It is no wonder that we could not reproduce such a feat today! We are too impatient, and we don't have the desire to do anything great anymore it seems.
I am not one to cater to extraterrestrial help on the pyramids, but Machu Pichu kind of has me perplexed!
Hi there,
Some awesome and open minded posts here.
I think I will really enjoy this forum.
ciao
Some awesome and open minded posts here.
I think I will really enjoy this forum.
ciao
QUOTE (gtars @ Nov 7 2007, 02:02 AM)
We have a lot of information to work with these days as to how the pyramids were built. First off in moving the massive blocks, which they carefully dug out and moved long distance, they actually had dug a series of canals and used waters from the Nile to flood their canals. In order to move a massive block of 100 tons or so, they would load a huge barge with sand to sink it below the water level. Then they would pull the blocks on top of the sand, then they would start unloading the sand from the barge. As the sand was evacuated, the barge would raise with the block(s) aboard and would then be floated close to the building site and unloaded. Not rocket science here folks. I keep wondering why people forget that they had massive cranes made of wood that could easily have swung the blocks upward to build the pyramids. A ramp was not necessary in order to move blocks upwards to the top. A series of lifting cranes made of huge wooden bases could pick up and swing the blocks upward to where another one would then carry it to the next one. The cranes could easily move
all of the blocks to the top. The Science Channel had some excellent shows on "Ancient Machines" which showed that they had some very sophisticated machines back in those days.
One other thing to remember, is that they had several things going for them that we do not have today.. Time and leadership! They had lots of time to donate to the projects, and had the leadership to drive them to build the monuments. Today, we want it done the day after tomorrow, so we look at some huge monument that obviously took a long time to create, and we are baffled by how it was built and engineered with such precision! They did not have all of the problems to deal with as we do today. They had time on their side, and they had a leader that gave them the leadership to get the job done.
As for the perfect alignment and the fascinating precision with which they were built, remember that these people were not slouches by any means. They had a great knowledge of the stars and could do fantastic measurements as well. They had the time and knowledge to achieve great things. It is no wonder that we could not reproduce such a feat today! We are too impatient, and we don't have the desire to do anything great anymore it seems.
I am not one to cater to extraterrestrial help on the pyramids, but Machu Pichu kind of has me perplexed!
all of the blocks to the top. The Science Channel had some excellent shows on "Ancient Machines" which showed that they had some very sophisticated machines back in those days.
One other thing to remember, is that they had several things going for them that we do not have today.. Time and leadership! They had lots of time to donate to the projects, and had the leadership to drive them to build the monuments. Today, we want it done the day after tomorrow, so we look at some huge monument that obviously took a long time to create, and we are baffled by how it was built and engineered with such precision! They did not have all of the problems to deal with as we do today. They had time on their side, and they had a leader that gave them the leadership to get the job done.
As for the perfect alignment and the fascinating precision with which they were built, remember that these people were not slouches by any means. They had a great knowledge of the stars and could do fantastic measurements as well. They had the time and knowledge to achieve great things. It is no wonder that we could not reproduce such a feat today! We are too impatient, and we don't have the desire to do anything great anymore it seems.
I am not one to cater to extraterrestrial help on the pyramids, but Machu Pichu kind of has me perplexed!
If they had all this knowledge how come it wasn't until foreigners came to their land that they finally had knowledge of the wheel? Seems kind of odd they were so smart yet they never invented the wheel for themselves, a tool whose worth is infinitely valuable to all of humanity. I just don't buy the idea of thousands of people busting their asses day in and day out for their entire lives building a gargantuan monument to some guy just to bury him in. I also don't buy the idea of a wooden boat carrying a 100 ton piece of stone down a river in the middle of a desert to help the cause either.
There are ancient stone monuments all over the world- the mayan temples being very similar to the pyramids. Also Stonehenge, the Easter Island statues, which there is a wall on that island that has very large stones carved which fit so tightly together you can't even stick a reed of grass in between them, like those on the pyramids, and then there are the mysterious stone spheres found all over Costa Rica. Now either all these civilizations somehow evolved in a parallel way, or someone or something helped them all, be it aliens or God or whatever.
Anyone read anything about the Dulce Wars? Do a Google Search and you will find some really interesting stuff.
QUOTE (Fox William Mulder @ Nov 7 2007, 09:11 AM)
Seems kind of odd they were so smart yet they never invented the wheel for themselves, a tool whose worth is infinitely valuable to all of humanity.
I agree on that. I also have a problem believing that they dont have any egyptian drawings anywhere of the pyramid or how it was built, yet drawings are everywhere of their lives ( why not include something as important, taking years to achieve? )
just curious....
QUOTE (gizagirl @ Nov 7 2007, 09:14 AM)
I agree on that. I also have a problem believing that they dont have any egyptian drawings anywhere of the pyramid or how it was built, yet drawings are everywhere of their lives ( why not include something as important, taking years to achieve? )
just curious....
just curious....
Indeed, you would think they would have tried to pass this kind of knowledge on to future generations, even if just to say "Hey, check out what we did."
Lol, of course there is always Stonehenge, or the Crop Circles.....or even the Bermuda Triangle....I bet anything that we cannot understand is, lol. Jeeze, I can't even believe this is an actual forum.
QUOTE (gtars @ Nov 7 2007, 03:02 AM)
We have a lot of information to work with these days as to how the pyramids were built. First off in moving the massive blocks, which they carefully dug out and moved long distance, they actually had dug a series of canals and used waters from the Nile to flood their canals. In order to move a massive block of 100 tons or so, they would load a huge barge with sand to sink it below the water level. Then they would pull the blocks on top of the sand, then they would start unloading the sand from the barge. As the sand was evacuated, the barge would raise with the block(s) aboard and would then be floated close to the building site and unloaded. Not rocket science here folks. I keep wondering why people forget that they had massive cranes made of wood that could easily have swung the blocks upward to build the pyramids. A ramp was not necessary in order to move blocks upwards to the top. A series of lifting cranes made of huge wooden bases could pick up and swing the blocks upward to where another one would then carry it to the next one. The cranes could easily move
all of the blocks to the top. The Science Channel had some excellent shows on "Ancient Machines" which showed that they had some very sophisticated machines back in those days.
One other thing to remember, is that they had several things going for them that we do not have today.. Time and leadership! They had lots of time to donate to the projects, and had the leadership to drive them to build the monuments. Today, we want it done the day after tomorrow, so we look at some huge monument that obviously took a long time to create, and we are baffled by how it was built and engineered with such precision! They did not have all of the problems to deal with as we do today. They had time on their side, and they had a leader that gave them the leadership to get the job done.
As for the perfect alignment and the fascinating precision with which they were built, remember that these people were not slouches by any means. They had a great knowledge of the stars and could do fantastic measurements as well. They had the time and knowledge to achieve great things. It is no wonder that we could not reproduce such a feat today! We are too impatient, and we don't have the desire to do anything great anymore it seems.
I am not one to cater to extraterrestrial help on the pyramids, but Machu Pichu kind of has me perplexed!
all of the blocks to the top. The Science Channel had some excellent shows on "Ancient Machines" which showed that they had some very sophisticated machines back in those days.
One other thing to remember, is that they had several things going for them that we do not have today.. Time and leadership! They had lots of time to donate to the projects, and had the leadership to drive them to build the monuments. Today, we want it done the day after tomorrow, so we look at some huge monument that obviously took a long time to create, and we are baffled by how it was built and engineered with such precision! They did not have all of the problems to deal with as we do today. They had time on their side, and they had a leader that gave them the leadership to get the job done.
As for the perfect alignment and the fascinating precision with which they were built, remember that these people were not slouches by any means. They had a great knowledge of the stars and could do fantastic measurements as well. They had the time and knowledge to achieve great things. It is no wonder that we could not reproduce such a feat today! We are too impatient, and we don't have the desire to do anything great anymore it seems.
I am not one to cater to extraterrestrial help on the pyramids, but Machu Pichu kind of has me perplexed!
I'm curious, if the Egyptians did flood canals and pulled the huge, heavy blocks down the canal to the building site, what kind of rope did they use? Or did they have chains they used? Were chains even around back then? If they hadn't invented the wheel or pulley, then how did they lift the many ton blocks up each level? Now a days when hoisting heavy Ibeams up to higher levels they use cranes equipped with heavy steel cables and chains. These are just some of things I was wondering about.
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