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Picollo30
You guys can read it here

http://phoenicia.org/brazil.html


with so many proofs i dont understand why historians say that Columbus was the first one to arrive in the Americas. (Vikings in North America, Romans and Cartaginians, evidences have been found too) i seriously think History should be rewritten, we deserve to know the truth about our ancient past.


does anyone here knows about Cartaginians in the Azores Islands (i'm portuguese by the way) ? i read about in an old brazilian magazine called Planeta some years ago, where some researchers found gold coins, some monuments too and it has been said that in the kingdom of D. Joao II, a navigator Joao de Barros found a statue of a man in a horse with strange cartaginian or phoenician inscriptions on it. the statue was transported back to Lisbon but it vanished. i tried to google for some info about it, but found nothing.
Mad Hatter
Yes, you are right about the Portuguese landing in Brazil and colonizing it, but I've never heard of the Phoenicians coming to South America. Nice info.
rezna
QUOTE (Picollo30 @ Nov 7 2007, 04:52 PM) *
You guys can read it here

<a href="http://phoenicia.org/brazil.html" target="_blank">http://phoenicia.org/brazil.html</a>


with so many proofs i dont understand why historians say that Columbus was the first one to arrive in the Americas. (Vikings in North America, Romans and Cartaginians, evidences have been found too) i seriously think History should be rewritten, we deserve to know the truth about our ancient past.


does anyone here knows about Cartaginians in the Azores Islands (i'm portuguese by the way) ? i read about in an old brazilian magazine called Planeta some years ago, where some researchers found gold coins, some monuments too and it has been said that in the kingdom of D. Joao II, a navigator Joao de Barros found a statue of a man in a horse with strange cartaginian or phoenician inscriptions on it. the statue was transported back to Lisbon but it vanished. i tried to google for
some info about it, but found nothing.


1) It is well established that Columbus did not discover America. Columbus discovered America for Spain, yes. But not in general. Obviously, the Americas have been inhabited by people as far as 13000 years ago. There is questionable evidence that could push that number farther back. But I think there are enough threads which already cover this topic.

2) No matter where you find old coins, you cannot prove how they got there. There have been numerous shipwrecks over the years, and for example, if one of those ships had antiquities from a museum, lets say it's the 1800's, and they are trying to bring them to America, and let's say the ship sinks, well now you've got ancient roman coins on the coast of America, but they weren't put there by the Romans. See the issue there? The only way we can substantiate anything pre 10,000 BC is a written record, which there aren't any.

3) The statues your talking about are fakes.

Edit:
4) I just want to add that the link you provided says this in the first line:

"About 11,000 years ago (9500 B. C.) our planet was hit by a huge cataclysm... the very large continent- island that existed in the middle of the Atlantic ocean, known as Atlantis, sank."

That right there kept me from going any further, not to mention the dates on the sources for this website which are 1945 and 1969.

PLEASE try harder to find more contemporary sources, especially for something that has been debated to death on this board.
The Puzzler
Here's some info I found on it:
http://nautarch.tamu.edu/shiplab/acores-geral01-fenicios.htm

and a very interesting story it is by the way!
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