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thisisfunny
wats your favorite? thumbsup.gif
1.618
QUOTE (thisisfunny @ Nov 8 2007, 03:25 PM) *
wats your favorite? thumbsup.gif


I like the tale of the lambeth worm or the george and the dragon but it's not in your options to vote for.
Juupy froot
Caps lock = bad.
swiftpaw fatfox
I like werewolf and kitsune myths
thisisfunny
why does it?
thisisfunny
interesting
Incorrigible1
You might have added the thunderbird (I personally witnessed one as a youth).

And I tend to draw a distinction between "mythic" versus "cryptic." For instance, I'd consider a unicorn to be mythic, whereas bigfoot to be cryptic. FWIW.
Celumnaz
voted "Bigfoot" and Yes, but really I wanted to put GIANTS!
thisisfunny
good point incorrigible1
capoeiranger
But why HellBoy?
draconic chronicler
QUOTE (1.618 @ Nov 8 2007, 09:31 AM) *
I like the tale of the lambeth worm or the george and the dragon but it's not in your options to vote for.


I agree that this is a very poorly designed poll of mythical creatures because dragon myths were not included and they are by far the most prolific and known all over the world. There are more dragon myths that all of that listed nonsense put together. And technicallly, lake monster, sea serpent, and dinosaur sightings would all fall into the "dragon" category too.

But the St. George story is one of the world's mort worthless myths because it is not even a myth. I was just a story invented by a writer over 1000 years after the real George lived, so it has no historical basis at all, unlike many dragon legends. It was added to the story of St. George just to make his life "more interesting". In fact, when the real St. George lived, dragons in Christian theology were actually heavenly creatures that guarded the heavenly throne and devoured the souls of sinners. But this had been forgotten by the time the St. George story was written in the middle ages.

The Lambton Worm story is certainly fake too, or the skin, bones, etc would have been saved becasue they were worth a fortune and every church wanted to have dragon remains among their relics. But it may be based on a real dragon sighting, and when it left the area, someone claimed to have defeated it in a fight, and over the years the story evolved into yet another nonsensical dragon slaying, for by then, people believed the bones could be lost.
draconic chronicler
QUOTE (Incorrigible1 @ Nov 8 2007, 11:55 AM) *
You might have added the thunderbird (I personally witnessed one as a youth).

And I tend to draw a distinction between "mythic" versus "cryptic." For instance, I'd consider a unicorn to be mythic, whereas bigfoot to be cryptic. FWIW.


Was your thunderbird sighting just the "big bird" type, or the ones that look more like a pterodactyl or dragon?
Incorrigible1
QUOTE (draconic chronicler @ Nov 8 2007, 01:54 PM) *
Was your thunderbird sighting just the "big bird" type, or the ones that look more like a pterodactyl or dragon?

I was a kid, 10-12 years old. It was a gigantic bird, far too large to be anything I can imagine. It was black, sitting low in a tree. As our group of boys walked toward it, from probably a quarter-mile away, it flew off. It was black, and just gigantic. I've tried for years to explain it to myself.
m. Moe
QUOTE (capoeiranger @ Nov 8 2007, 12:31 PM) *
But why HellBoy?

I was wondering that too....

I was also wondring wtf was up with the caps lock.....
1.618
QUOTE (draconic chronicler @ Nov 8 2007, 07:52 PM) *
I agree that this is a very poorly designed poll of mythical creatures because dragon myths were not included and they are by far the most prolific and known all over the world. There are more dragon myths that all of that listed nonsense put together. And technicallly, lake monster, sea serpent, and dinosaur sightings would all fall into the "dragon" category too.

But the St. George story is one of the world's mort worthless myths because it is not even a myth. I was just a story invented by a writer over 1000 years after the real George lived, so it has no historical basis at all, unlike many dragon legends. It was added to the story of St. George just to make his life "more interesting". In fact, when the real St. George lived, dragons in Christian theology were actually heavenly creatures that guarded the heavenly throne and devoured the souls of sinners. But this had been forgotten by the time the St. George story was written in the middle ages.

The Lambton Worm story is certainly fake too, or the skin, bones, etc would have been saved becasue they were worth a fortune and every church wanted to have dragon remains among their relics. But it may be based on a real dragon sighting, and when it left the area, someone claimed to have defeated it in a fight, and over the years the story evolved into yet another nonsensical dragon slaying, for by then, people believed the bones could be lost.


good job i like fiction then isn't it. grin2.gif
draconic chronicler
QUOTE (1.618 @ Nov 8 2007, 03:58 PM) *
good job i like fiction then isn't it. grin2.gif


Well, many people believe there must be "something" behind the dragon legends that appear all over the world. People seem to have actually seen these creatures, and they may be the lake monsters, dinosaurs, and sea serpents still reported today.

But all of the stories of humans killing such creatures with weapons of ancient and medieval times are certainly fiction. Who but an idiot or small chld would think this is posible when we see the awesome capabilities of predatorydinosaurs, let alone a similar large reptilian predator with appaent great intelligence. Dragonslaying myths are merely tall tales, picking the most formidable of all known creatures for the hero to kill. But like I said, if anyone in Medieval Times ever did kill a dragon, its hide and bones would be sold to a church and none ever were. But theycertainly wanted to have dragons remains, becasue some churches bought fossil bone they thought were from dragons, the most famous is a wooly rhinocerous skull from klagenfurt Austria, that people believed was a dragon skull.
swiftpaw fatfox
QUOTE (draconic chronicler @ Nov 8 2007, 07:04 PM) *
Well, many people believe there must be "something" behind the dragon legends that appear all over the world. People seem to have actually seen these creatures, and they may be the lake monsters, dinosaurs, and sea serpents still reported today.

But all of the stories of humans killing such creatures with weapons of ancient and medieval times are certainly fiction. Who but an idiot or small chld would think this is posible when we see the awesome capabilities of predatorydinosaurs, let alone a similar large reptilian predator with appaent great intelligence. Dragonslaying myths are merely tall tales, picking the most formidable of all known creatures for the hero to kill. But like I said, if anyone in Medieval Times ever did kill a dragon, its hide and bones would be sold to a church and none ever were. But theycertainly wanted to have dragons remains, becasue some churches bought fossil bone they thought were from dragons, the most famous is a wooly rhinocerous skull from klagenfurt Austria, that people believed was a dragon skull.


doesn't mean people wouldn't try, though I'm sure then you would have one well feed dragon
swiftpaw fatfox
QUOTE (Incorrigible1 @ Nov 8 2007, 12:55 PM) *
You might have added the thunderbird (I personally witnessed one as a youth).

And I tend to draw a distinction between "mythic" versus "cryptic." For instance, I'd consider a unicorn to be mythic, whereas bigfoot to be cryptic. FWIW.


you saw a thunderbird, neat
kenshinx
how dare you not including dragon and thunderbird! grin2.gif
but i'll choose hellboy anyway coz he's speak in human language
Archosaur
I vote "dragon" as well. The write-on candidate is doing well...

swiftpaw fatfox
QUOTE (Archosaur @ Nov 8 2007, 11:11 PM) *
I vote "dragon" as well. The write-on candidate is doing well...

dragons and draconic creatures are neat too
thisisfunny
ok sorry guys only had 10 choices ill try to include dragons
thisisfunny
ok i dont know how to edit the choices
capoeiranger
I like Elven and Dragons the most but you didn't put them on the list.
Indrid Cold
I think Dragons are pretty interesting simply because pretty much every single culture on earth has some sort of reference to these creatures. Just knowing that, there has to be credibility to them.
Leahzebelle
mothman for me. hands down, i love that concept
m. Moe
QUOTE (thisisfunny @ Nov 9 2007, 06:04 AM) *
ok sorry guys only had 10 choices ill try to include dragons

Well, it's somewhat interesting how you had enough room to include Hellboy but not enough to include dragons....
draconic chronicler
QUOTE (m. Moe @ Nov 9 2007, 05:10 PM) *
Well, it's somewhat interesting how you had enough room to include Hellboy but not enough to include dragons....

Hellboy was totally ridiculous. It cannot even be called a myth. It is simply a modern comic book character invented by one writer.
bball
I chose bigfoot. It seems to be one of the most 'within the realm of scientific possiblity' ones.
swiftpaw fatfox
QUOTE (bball @ Nov 9 2007, 06:48 PM) *
I chose bigfoot. It seems to be one of the most 'within the realm of scientific possiblity' ones.


actually many creatures can be looked at scientifically. for example dragons; we know there are diseases and parasites and mutations that can give vertebrates extra limbs, well what if millions of years ago there was a lizard that was effected by such a disease or mutation. most would have limbs on the wrong spots and wouldn't be functional, but what of the few who got an extra pair of legs that functioned and were in between the other legs. This would give it a big advantage. later in evolution it starts to get larger because it can escape predators and catch prey better. Then it may have problems with competing with land bound creatures of similar size or deal with larger preds, the next evalution process is to turn those extra limbs into wings. You see how science can explain dragons.
bball
QUOTE (swiftpaw fatfox @ Nov 9 2007, 09:14 PM) *
actually many creatures can be looked at scientifically. for example dragons; we know there are diseases and parasites and mutations that can give vertebrates extra limbs, well what if millions of years ago there was a lizard that was effected by such a disease or mutation. most would have limbs on the wrong spots and wouldn't be functional, but what of the few who got an extra pair of legs that functioned and were in between the other legs. This would give it a big advantage. later in evolution it starts to get larger because it can escape predators and catch prey better. Then it may have problems with competing with land bound creatures of similar size or deal with larger preds, the next evalution process is to turn those extra limbs into wings. You see how science can explain dragons.

Sure they can be looked at scientifically, but that doesn't mean anything. You give lots of 'ifs' and speculation. What I mean is that it doesn't defy the laws of nature and that it is not unreasonable to think another, more intelligent great ape, is out there.
Incorrigible1
QUOTE (bball @ Nov 10 2007, 02:26 AM) *
Sure they can be looked at scientifically, but that doesn't mean anything. You give lots of 'ifs' and speculation. What I mean is that it doesn't defy the laws of nature and that it is not unreasonable to think another, more intelligent great ape, is out there.

And my people are keeping a watchful eye upon yours!
bball
QUOTE (Incorrigible1 @ Nov 10 2007, 12:08 PM) *
And my people are keeping a watchful eye upon yours!

Haha. Okay, and vice-versa. wink2.gif
kanji
QUOTE (swiftpaw fatfox @ Nov 9 2007, 10:14 PM) *
actually many creatures can be looked at scientifically. for example dragons; we know there are diseases and parasites and mutations that can give vertebrates extra limbs, well what if millions of years ago there was a lizard that was effected by such a disease or mutation. most would have limbs on the wrong spots and wouldn't be functional, but what of the few who got an extra pair of legs that functioned and were in between the other legs. This would give it a big advantage. later in evolution it starts to get larger because it can escape predators and catch prey better. Then it may have problems with competing with land bound creatures of similar size or deal with larger preds, the next evalution process is to turn those extra limbs into wings. You see how science can explain dragons.


Awesome.
swiftpaw fatfox
QUOTE (kanji @ Nov 10 2007, 03:54 PM) *
Awesome.


thanks, it was some thing that I thought about and it can make sense
m. Moe
QUOTE (draconic chronicler @ Nov 9 2007, 04:38 PM) *
Hellboy was totally ridiculous. It cannot even be called a myth. It is simply a modern comic book character invented by one writer.

He was probably inspired to add the option after this: link
capoeiranger
QUOTE (swiftpaw fatfox @ Nov 10 2007, 10:14 AM) *
actually many creatures can be looked at scientifically. for example dragons; we know there are diseases and parasites and mutations that can give vertebrates extra limbs, well what if millions of years ago there was a lizard that was effected by such a disease or mutation. most would have limbs on the wrong spots and wouldn't be functional, but what of the few who got an extra pair of legs that functioned and were in between the other legs. This would give it a big advantage. later in evolution it starts to get larger because it can escape predators and catch prey better. Then it may have problems with competing with land bound creatures of similar size or deal with larger preds, the next evalution process is to turn those extra limbs into wings. You see how science can explain dragons.


You sure about this? You seems doubious...anyway, after some time of thinking, I actually started to go along with DC's theory, dragons are supernatural, rather than scientific creatures.
swiftpaw fatfox
QUOTE (capoeiranger @ Nov 10 2007, 05:40 PM) *
You sure about this? You seems doubious...anyway, after some time of thinking, I actually started to go along with DC's theory, dragons are supernatural, rather than scientific creatures.


I'm just putting possible theories that have popped in my mind. but regardless what explanation there is I believe dragons and many other creatures do exist and hope to meet some of them original.gif
WraithGod
I don't know if I'd really call these "myths", but my favorite unconfirmed creature story is Megalodon. I think it's one of the most plausible, really, since it did actually exist at one point in an element we know less about than the moon.

Also, I don't believe in MYTHICAL creatures, but I believe that some listed under cryptozoology exist in one form or another.
thisisfunny
i dont know i couldnt put every option in the world
capoeiranger
QUOTE (swiftpaw fatfox @ Nov 11 2007, 06:40 AM) *
I'm just putting possible theories that have popped in my mind. but regardless what explanation there is I believe dragons and many other creatures do exist and hope to meet some of them original.gif


Good, keep looking.
Neith
My favorite would have to be unicorn and fairy. I loved unicorns when I was little, dont know why I'm partial to fairies I just like them.
swiftpaw fatfox
QUOTE (capoeiranger @ Nov 11 2007, 12:28 PM) *
Good, keep looking.


thank you original.gif
thisisfunny
kool
Primeval
No Windigo? sad.gif
m. Moe
QUOTE (Primeval @ Nov 11 2007, 01:42 PM) *
No Windigo? sad.gif

I actually liked the legend of the Windigo. Pity it couldn't live up to Hellboy. rolleyes.gif
~ MacDDT ~
The Wendigo, now your talkin' my language!!!
linked-image
You got to love Canadian mythology!!!
thisisfunny
thats true
thisisfunny
a what?
capoeiranger
^What or who do you commenting? You looks like a confused kid in the biggest ToysRUs in the planet!!
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