MEAAAOWWW Biiiittchyy and with a smile too .. @ the irony of it all lol

Absolutely!

The thing that really makes me wonder though is this, certain Authorities try to ban this, that and the other with regard to Christianity "in case it should offend our 'other religion friends' ", what they are forgetting is that the very thing they are trying to outlaw is offending another group of people (the Christians and anyone else that doesn't mind what the hell the Christians get up to) and better than that, people of other religions are very rarely offended by Christian "going-ons" (for want of a better term), the only people in this whole sad scenerio that really need a good talking to are the ones imposing the bans! Most people can live and let live

It really is about time that these Authorities that seem hell-bent on imposing themselves on everyone else accepted that people are adults and are quite able to make their own decisions and judging by some of the rules that they wish to impose and make "law of the land", these adults are quite able to look after themselves without getting offended at every little action by a religion that may not be their own.

Putting it simply, it really is about time they butted out of everyone's damn business

Absolutely!
This is why the threads like, "Bashing Christians", or "Is Christianity being persecuted" get so heated. It's because these "authorities" that say they are trying to keep church and state separate, or attempting to keep the playing field level for all religion, are actually attacking Christianity rather than making anything fair. It's not about moderation and reason, it's about crushing the majority in favor of the minority.

These people use our own laws and sense of right and wrong against us. In their native countries, they have no problems with making it law that all Christians must register with the state, or must live in a certain area, or legislate how, when and where they worship. But they emigrate to a place where they are a minority, and they MUST be given minority status, and must be treated special. Christians can't worship in school because they are a majority, but other groups can, because they are a minority? What the hell people? Why is the government installing foot-baths in public schools and public buildings? What? How is that right, when a Christian can't where a crucifix to school, but a Muslim can wear a head scarf and wash their feet, and face Mecca and pray IN SCHOOL ?

This is nothing more than an attempt by the government and the powers to be to make everyone conform.Just the start though George Orwell's 1984 is late getting here.
This is also breast beating by certain liberal mind sets and New World Order folks to go and make americans feel they are worthless and bad,and other cultures are good,even though they cut off people's heads and do female circumcisine.Sorry forgot to use spell check.THe government will continue to take away our freedoms and the masses will not notice until it is too late.
As for pagans,don't worry,they will get to you too,just a matter of time.
Of course many so called pagans and atheists neglect to read. As a Catholic I can give you many examples of men and women who have worked to help the poor,oppressed and homless.Check out Dorothy Day and the Catholic Workers Movement.Her cause for canonization is up before Rome.She didn't live 500 years ago,but in the 20th century here in America.
St.Jeanne Jugan in France who founded the Little Sisters of the Poor to care for the aged poor .
Not all Christians are evil people by any means. Many work to help those in need.

I agree with what you sayeqgumby. Things are getting out of hand.
And yes it is going too far MermaidManXD,but only when the people wake from their slumber and apathy will things change.

I agree, I do think it is not right to ultimately ban anything religious. I think secular means, that it does not follow an official belief system, but it does allow expression of all belief systems including Atheism. I believe religion and beliefs do participate in cultural traditions, I think it's fear that is persecuting Grandma. I grew up secular, and do not believe prosetylizing, but I also think it's ridiculous to ban the word God from the Pledge of Alligiance. To me, that is a part of tradition.

A friend and neighbor of mine had a son of hers sent home from the public school her son and mine were attending, because he wore a t-shirt that said, 'I love Jesus'. She got fed up and enrolled her son in a Catholic school. A relative of mine agree with the schoo and said that you can't mix religion or prosetylize in a public school. In one sense, I agree with him, but I understand with my friend's frustation. I do not think that the shirt was prosetylizing. It was only an expression. If it said, 'please love Jesus', I think I would understand the school's ruling, but this is now just holding a child's expression at bay, and I wonder what is really going to happen next with someone else. I just think we are just not capable of knowing what is the middle ground in this country. It's just fear and anger that either goes one way or way towards the other way. Do we feel it's alright to be prosetylized and do nothing about it, or just do we put a hold on all expressions for fear we are being prosetylized against?

But now there is something else here too, and I want to express it...


I work in retail, and have been all my adult life. It's has always been the greeting, "Happy Holidays!' since I remember. Now, some people are getting quite angry over this, and think it's a war on Christmas and on Christians. I do get angry with this. I even had a guy, who I was waiting on, when I wished him 'Happy Holidays' yell at me about that and screamed 'Merry Christmas!' at me, like it's a threat! I couldn't do this, for I was working, but I so desperately wanted to scream, "Well, Happy Hanukah right back at you!" I wonder what his response would have been? Would he dare to act his rage with the possiblity of Jewish individuals in the store. I know of atleast two who I work with there.
The fact of the matter, as I know it. the term 'Happy Holidays' is for everyone, not against Christians. This is a nation of the free, right!?! It is a freedom of religion. I do believe also a freedom from religion, or this nation wouldn't be entirely a free nation then, right? If we wanted to wish everyone their holiday, then to every single customer, we would all say in one breath, 'Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah, Happy Kwansa, Blessed be a Winter's Solstice, Happy Ramadan, and others I am sure that is celebrated at this time. "Happy Holidays is shorter and includes everyone! Inside your house it's your religion and holiday, outside of it, it's everyone else's!!


Yes, they do have a right, and so does everyone else, but mostly the Native AMericans! I'm a little ticked by this statement. Don't you think that those who do have the right to their holiday is the Native Americans? They were there first and pushed aside! They have their beliefs and celebrations long before the birth of Christ! I'm sorry, but this angered me.


And that is how I feel. Granted, I'm with the not keeping the lid of Christian holiday celebrations and stuff, but it shouldn't be the only thing everyone is feeling is being banned. When I was living in Jersey, I was so proud of a particular neighborhood that made the news. A particular Jewish family had their menorah on thier windowsill per their belief, and someone broke the window and stole menorah and smashed that. In response, the rest of the neighborhood, all Christians and displaying Christmas lights, all had menorahs lit in all of their windowsills. I thought that was so beautiful. Yes, they were expressing their faith in their religious holiday, but they also felt that their neighbor had that right too. Where I live now too, I have Jewish neighbors, and it doesn't feel festive until their menorah is in thier window. It just makes my festive neighborhood feel complete.

You're right, and it's just stereotyping the Christians in such bias hatred as well as others. I do not blame you.

this is just the beginning........

tell the people in the hud homes to decorate with candy canes....they have the meaning but i don't think hud can enforce a ban on candy canes...worth a try...

randomhit10

I'm not being funny or anything, but I have a strong suspicion that after these Authorities have finished with the Christmas thing, they will start on Easter......

you are understanding...

randomhit10

I wouldn't put it past them....SERIOUSLY....how chocolate is offensive lol and the easter bunny is evil...and all of a sudden their kids fear the easter bunny...ohh and for some reason, out of the blue, their kids teeth rot more so around easter time than they do any other time of year...and of course the whole story of Jesus rising from the dead will be so offensive

Yes, exactly.

I am going to get REALLY paranoid here and wager that some authority will make a claim that chocolate is completely toxic and steps will be taken to cut it all out.

*empties backroom ready to hoard lots of choccie*