the coyote
Nov 11 2007, 01:51 AM
Has there ever been supernatural explanations for why very strange coincidences seem to occur very frequently for periods at a time, then suddenly not? Or deja vu sensations despite having never been in that situation?
DesertFox
Nov 11 2007, 02:43 AM
i have experienced deja vu plenty of times when i've never even experienced the situation before.
i have had a heap of strange coincidences (or they might not be) with my girlfriend and I.
say we're talking about something over an online chat. one of us would begin to type something and the other
would be start typing about the same thing even though it's not about the topic we're talking about. (if that makes sense)
happened a few times to us. i guess we think alike (in which we do). another thing that has happened, which was strange, we're both listening to music
and one of us has to go, it just happens that the next song to play would be something to do about leaving or something like that.
Mademoiselle
Nov 12 2007, 12:46 AM
Coincidences don't occur . Just being luckily aware of simultanous events . Just suddenly perceiving how things could have been if we had made alternate choices . It's all our doings . Nothing is a coincidence . Just an infinte grid of overlapping paths.Nothing random.
Lotus Flower
Nov 12 2007, 12:56 AM
QUOTE (the coyote @ Nov 11 2007, 01:51 AM)

Has there ever been supernatural explanations for why very strange coincidences seem to occur very frequently for periods at a time, then suddenly not? Or deja vu sensations despite having never been in that situation?
Sometime a coincidence or synchronicity will occur to show you are on the correct path, that's what I believe anyway. Regarding deja vu, I have absolutely no idea what that is or why it occurs, but it must be one of the most peculiar feelings to get.
Coyote, do you have any particular coincidences of your own in mind?
Mademoiselle
Nov 12 2007, 01:07 AM
Some think that deja vu is remembering past lives .
sumthingnice60
Nov 12 2007, 02:11 AM
I once read somewhere that a deja vu is when there is a lapse in the time line so you experience things twice. Of course, this is just a theory.
sincerely yours
Nov 12 2007, 02:20 AM
Deja vu is your subconciouse memory remebering a similar occurence (i.e. seeing soemthing similar or a similar event) but on a conciouse level your unaware youv'e had a similar experiiecne and provokes the feeling of deja vu.
the coyote
Nov 12 2007, 12:56 PM
QUOTE (Lotus Flower @ Nov 11 2007, 07:56 PM)

Coyote, do you have any particular coincidences of your own in mind?
Yep! Well, DesertFox said something interesting about things happening like that between his girlfriend and such. That happens with my boyfriend too, but I think it's more because we're on the same wave length and talk about a number of topics.
The strangest coincidence that happened thus far was at work. I was standing in front of a a wall of DVDs, and I happened to look at the T-U-V-X-Y section. Then I saw a DVD with Matthew Broderick (I sort of like him, I don't know why) so I picked it up to read about it. It was for the movie "You Can Count On Me," which I've never seen. I tried figuring out who the woman in it was, and read the back.
The very next day, I put the Lifetime channel on in the morning to watch Frasier, then just let the TV play to it's regular weekday movie at 12pm, and "You Can Count On Me" came on. Is it funny I think this is strange? I mean, out of 300+ movies on that wall and the 75 DVDs in those sections... I was seriously bugged out!
Sleeping with Fishes
Nov 12 2007, 01:05 PM
QUOTE (sumthingnice60 @ Nov 12 2007, 02:11 AM)

I once read somewhere that a deja vu is when there is a lapse in the time line so you experience things twice. Of course, this is just a theory.
Here are another couple of therories from somewhere on the net:
1) One possibility is simply the occasional mismatch made by the brain in its continuous attempt to create whole sensical pictures out of very small pieces of information. Looking at memory as a hologram, only bits of sensory information are needed for the brain to reconstruct entire three-dimensional images. When the brain receives a small sensory input (a sight, a smell, a sound) that is strikingly similar to such a detail experienced in the past, the entire memory image is brought forward. The brain has taken the past to be the present by virtue of one tiny bit of sensory information. It is this mismatch of past and present sensory information that causes the sense of disconcertment and unease associated with a passing déjà vu. This theory provides a satisfactory explanation for the physical effects of déjà vu. These appear to be similar to the effects of mismatch between sensory input and corollary discharge signal information to the brain. It does not, however, seem to provide sufficient answers to individual (even my own) accounts of déjà vu, where the memory image pulled up is not necessarily from a true past event.
2) Another explanation for déjà vu is that there is a slight malfunctioning between the long and short-term memory circuits of the brain. Somehow, specific information shortcuts its way from short to long-term memory storage, bypassing the usual mechanisms used for storage transfer. The details concerning this shortcut are not yet well understood. When this new, recent piece of information is drawn upon, the person thinks that the piece is coming from long-term storage and so must have come from the distant past. A similar theory says that the error is in the timing of the perceptive and cognitive processes. Sensory information is rerouted on its way to memory storage and, so, is not immediately perceived. This short delay causes the sensation of experiencing and remembering something at the same time, a very unsettling feeling. One other explanation is that déjà vu is actually the process of remembering memory connections, of following the impulses and synapses.I personally believe the second example to be the most likely of the two. Whatever it is, it is quite a pleasant experience in my opinion.
the coyote
Nov 12 2007, 07:00 PM
Very interesting, thanks for sharing!
SunDogDayze
Nov 12 2007, 07:36 PM
That's odd, I was thinking of this kind of stuff this weekend.
I had a series of strange coincidences, all based on one HUGE weird famous coincidence.
Okay, do you guys all know about the synchronicity of The Wizard of Oz movie and Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon? If not, supposedly, when started at the same time, the music from Pink Floyd's album and events in the movie synch up perfectly. I've seen it and it is really odd, but it's been a while and I can't remember what all the coincidences are.
That being said, the other day I was helping my boyfriend clean up and I saw his daughters copy of The Wizard of Oz DVD case. I put it away, and as an afterthought, I asked him if he had ever watched it with Pink Floyd. He said no, and had no idea what I was talking about, so I explained it to him and said we should get the CD and try it one day. Conversation ended, whatever.
That night, I went to see my friend at her house, and she was wearing a Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon cover art sweater (with the prism and rainbow if anyone knows what I am talking about.) I thought that was kind of funny, but didnt think much about it.
Then I went into her roommates bathroom, and stuck to the floor was a piece of the title sticker on a CD, you know that annoying sticky piece of plastic with the CD title that tapes the case shut? Well it was stuck on the floor, and it was the Pink FLoyd Dark Side of the Moon CD. I got a little weirded out and went back and told both my friend and her roommate what was going on. I told them it must be a sign that I am supposed to watch the Wizard of Oz with Dark Side of the Moon playing, kind of joking, cause there was all these signs.
The roommate immediately grabbed my arm, and drug me to her bedroom. Guess what her boyfriend was watching on TV? The Wizard of Oz. It was really odd, it was on TBS, and she said she had just told him earlier about the Pink Floyd/Wizard of Oz thing when she was buying the new CD for herself, and then the movie just happened to come on cable.
Needless to say, next weekend we are having a "Dark Side of the Rainbow" party, where we are going to sync up the movie and the CD just because it has come up so many times lately.
Lotus Flower
Nov 13 2007, 01:25 AM
QUOTE (the coyote @ Nov 12 2007, 12:56 PM)

Yep! Well, DesertFox said something interesting about things happening like that between his girlfriend and such. That happens with my boyfriend too, but I think it's more because we're on the same wave length and talk about a number of topics.
The strangest coincidence that happened thus far was at work. I was standing in front of a a wall of DVDs, and I happened to look at the T-U-V-X-Y section. Then I saw a DVD with Matthew Broderick (I sort of like him, I don't know why) so I picked it up to read about it. It was for the movie "You Can Count On Me," which I've never seen. I tried figuring out who the woman in it was, and read the back.
The very next day, I put the Lifetime channel on in the morning to watch Frasier, then just let the TV play to it's regular weekday movie at 12pm, and "You Can Count On Me" came on. Is it funny I think this is strange? I mean, out of 300+ movies on that wall and the 75 DVDs in those sections... I was seriously bugged out!
That's more like a premonition type experience than a deja du one! You should keep a diary and record any future things like this.
the coyote
Nov 13 2007, 01:30 AM
QUOTE (Lotus Flower @ Nov 12 2007, 08:25 PM)

That's more like a premonition type experience than a deja du one! You should keep a diary and record any future things like this.
Most often to TV episodes and songs I mention come on later in the day or week, but I attributed that to commercials or listening to the same radio stations. I shall start writing all this down though if nothing for amusement!
Lotus Flower
Nov 13 2007, 01:41 AM
QUOTE (the coyote @ Nov 13 2007, 01:30 AM)

Most often to TV episodes and songs I mention come on later in the day or week, but I attributed that to commercials or listening to the same radio stations. I shall start writing all this down though if nothing for amusement!

My daughter and myself both do this too. I watched a movie on TV last night that I had had on my mind for a week, I wouldn't have put any importance on it except for the fact that it was the first time I had seen it aired since the 70s
salam qatanani
Dec 24 2007, 12:37 PM
i have had couple of experiences bout strange coincedences but mostly when im watching t.v or listening to radio , a song pops into my mind with out any reason..and seconds afterwards they play the same song right on. names can also pop suddenly into my head just seconds before the call me or visit me. i dont know if thats the same but i often sit back and think deeply about it, it is quite wierd how mind operates sometimes. i have also tried astral projection but i dont know why i cant do it, some friends say its the breathing (they mean i have to breathe very slowly) but i htink that i cant drag myslef into forgetting every single thought . i mean i cant be 100% relaxed and not thinking of anything
signal7
Dec 24 2007, 01:40 PM
QUOTE (the coyote @ Nov 10 2007, 08:51 PM)

Has there ever been supernatural explanations for why very strange coincidences seem to occur very frequently for periods at a time, then suddenly not? Or deja vu sensations despite having never been in that situation?
The scientist that approach this call it something like the multiple-reality effect. Where the theory is their are an infinite amount of universes, in which most you reside. Along this particular theory, each outcome is predicted within a range of expected paths you can take at each point in time. If you decide to wait and see something more clearly, for instance, before moving on...In another universe you reside, you did not. Now, usually according to the theory there's no interaction of your separate selves. Sometimes, though, being you attempt to reach a homeostasis with yourself, messages are trans-coded. Somehow.
Whether or not true, many respectable scientists have had similar experiences. And have collected data from others who also have had them. The general breakdown these days lies within the 'Parallel Universe' Theory, if you want more info.
Mademoiselle
Dec 25 2007, 08:01 AM
QUOTE (sincerely yours @ Nov 12 2007, 04:20 AM)

Deja vu is your subconciouse memory remebering a similar occurence (i.e. seeing soemthing similar or a similar event) but on a conciouse level your unaware youv'e had a similar experiiecne and provokes the feeling of deja vu.
Anthony Peake
Dec 28 2007, 12:19 PM
QUOTE (Sama @ Dec 25 2007, 08:01 AM)


The suggestion that Deja vu is brought about by one hemisphere processing information before the other was first suggested by a psychologist by the name of Robert Efron. However Efron's deja vu would take in information of around half a second, therefore you feel that you are experincing things half a second before they actually take place. This makes neurological sense with regard to certain types of deja vu - a sudden feeling of recognition for example - but completely fails with other types. For example I have a person who wrote to me after reading my book who gets deja vu's whereby he knows what is about to take place for the next five minutes. He feels trapped in a sort of temporal fugue. He cannot communicate with others when experiencing this, as far as they are concerned he is seen to be staring blankly into space. In order to help himself he plays a game whereby he mentally says the words that other people are about to say before they actually do so. He tells me that this is the only way he can hold onto his sanity. This guy has a tumour on his pineal gland in his brain. It is this that brings about this strange psychological state. Others who have attended my lectures have said that they get deja vu sensations as an early-warning of a temporal lobe seizure. It is recognised by neurologists that temporal lobe epilepsy (TLE) and deja vu of this sort are linked. I would be very interested to hear from any members of this forum who experience this sort of deja vu. -
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