I know they are extremly rare but the few cases of violent attacks by ghosts where have they happened?

As MC Hammer would say "Can't Touch This"...

LOL you poor thing!

LOL Its okay, Thanks Betsy!

wtf why you trolling my thread?

I'm not, but no one else will answer it..JN

they will soon hopefully, or maybe no one has an answer

I think The Bell Witch may have been one such case, link below:

Bell Witch

yeah she didnt seem to bad tho

I know people who have had minor injuries from supposed paranormal activity (e.g. scratches, scrapes, welts, burns) but nothing serious.

I did hear of a case where a ghost supposedly did kill someone but I couldn't find any supporting evidence (e.g. news or police reports of a death in that area at that time) so I chalk it up to an urban legend.

When you consider all the places people go investigating if there was any real physical danger we would know about it.

But that doesn't mean you should thow caution to the wind! Always remember we're dealing with the unknown.

Very true ((MP))

You said it Master Po!

There is the Carver City Haunting, involving a woman who is violently beaten and sexually assaulted. Carla Moran, (or her real name..Doris Bither) relocated back to her home state of Texas after a popular movie was made about her case. "The Entity" is a frightening account of unseen and unwelcome visitations, and a series of violent rapes perpetrated by more than one entity. She moved back to her home state, Texas, where her attacks continued, until all contact with her was lost. It is believed that she finally succumb to the overwhelming attacks. The fate of her children, who were also beaten (her son specifically), is not known.

Your response regarding the Bell Witch answer, "yeah she didnt seem to bad tho" was really very insensitive, especially since none of us was there to know what kind of trauma that family endured. I do know it was witnessed by many, and even a U.S. President was present for one of the events supposedly perpetrated by the "witch" herself. The young girl, Elizabeth, was reportedly beaten and slapped beyond measure, and her father eventually died from poisoning, that the "witch" herself took credit for. The potion that was in a small bottle by John Bells bed, was partially full of a brown substance. They gave a few drops to the cat in her water, and she died instantly. The majority of the users in UM don't look upon the suffering of others so lightly, even the skeptics who believe there is always a rational and natural answer. Although the answers to problems of this nature are a matter of debate, the suffering of the victims is very real, and not to be discounted so easily. ~Jackal

Forgot the name....it's an abandoned hospital in London, Kentucky. Guy was shoved downstairs into a pile of asbestos.

There's a house in Somerset, Kentucky built on the site of a TB clinic. The family was having items thrown at them from unseen forces.

Only one's I could think of off the top of my head.

I completely agree with you Jackal. These people really do suffer, but not many people think of it like that, they think of it being fake or they think of it as a real haunting. Now we shall have a minute's silence for those suffering from hauntings. (((trumpet music)))

Thank you Jackal for reminding me of that one. I seem to have spoken too soon, since this particular case is extremely disturbing to me. It completely slipped my mind until you mentioned it.

Anyone sitting atop the mausoleum in Green Lake, Wisconsin's oldest cemetery will be shoved off the roof by a ghost. They will also sometimes be scratched in the process. The cemetery has a lot of Native American graves from the cowboys and indians days of American history.This is the only real instance of a intelligent haunting that I know to be true, seemingly not demonic, and violent. There are probably more but that is the only one I can vouch for personally.

I consider demonic entites to be in another category all together, and I do not include them when talking about violent haunts.

I saw that on "A Haunting" the other day, about that cemetery. Some teens narrated the story and re-enacted the events. It was freaky! JN

That is disturbing, yet very interesting. Has anyone got this on film? And maybe the ghost pushed one and because the people who sat up there after were waiting to be pushed their minds tricked them or actually made themselves be pushed seemingly by nothing but really it was their mind. Or maybe it always was the ghost, which seems much more likely.

Did any of them actually go up there and did they get shoved off?

You are most welcome. I found the brutality of this particular assault most abhorrent. The added abasement of rape, and in front of her own children, places this vile case in the most shocking and reprehensible category, in my opinion. ~Jackal

Yes they all did, plus saw many spirits, but as I said, it was reenacted, so it kind of lost alot of the terror..JN

JN, do you remember the specific title? I'll YouTube it tonight if I can find it easy enough. Thanks.

Dang, but it is good they all had a go at being shoved by the spirit. As Jackal asked what was it called?

violent ghost's attack? well if spirits can somehow interact physically with our reality, it is also plausible they can be violent. It is popular belive that ghost's are dead people who cant find peace, so since people (strangers) are usually dangerous, I dont see any reason why spirits couldn have some violent behaviour.
Anyway, about violent hauntings, if you look on youtube after the series "A hauntings" you will be able to find lot of similar chases (like sally or where demons dwell, a haunting in cunnecticut and so on) but I cant of couse confirm you if the series (a good and entertaining tv serie) is realible, since must of the time is based on eye witness.

The one who impress me for the must, are the case of Carla Moran. A woman who got ripetudely raped by evil spirits (possible demons) surely it would be like living in hell. IF the case of "entity" is true, IMO she was possesed...but that is just my opinion.
Other violent chases are already been mentioned by other people here.

ciao

I checked and I believe it was called "Legend Trippers." JN

Thanks. I'll look for that on You Tube. ~Jackal

Anytime my friend, let me know if you find it, but as I said it is all re-enacted..JN

the case of carla wasnt that proven a hoax?

Some light reading

http://www.marciajedd.com/fun_articles/ghosts.htm

EWWW Thanks Angel...JN

You may be thinking of the Amityville Horror case. Jay Anson and George Lutz supposedly orchestrated the event. Mr. Lutz so stated, as a matter of fact, on his deathbed.



The Carver City Haunting is a documented disturbance, and has never been totally pursued to a conclusion or satisfactory result. Once again, some have attributed these violent attacks to psychological disorder (regardless of bite marks on her neck and vaginal bruising ((the former impossible for her to accomplish by herself)). Her real name is Doris Bithers, from Texas. ~Jackal

Great link my friend. I copied it into my library. And it reaffirms my previous comment, and my SP arguement on another thread (SP is not accountable for ALL of these disturbances). Even as real as dreams can be, there is a bridge that must be crossed when regaining full cognitive consciousness. You awaken. For those that are already awake, there is no gulf to cross. They are awake. They endure. That simple. IMHO. ~Jackal

AND, there are incidents that occur to people that have never gone to sleep and are wide awake.

regarding the the raped womens case, There is not enough info about it out there, all i know is the book and movie really did overdramatize it!

Another thing regarding that case is there is lots of conflicting info..

Why doesnt someone get to the bottom of it and solve it?

I dont know the entire story, but I do know something about the "Incubus" and if that were the case, there is no real way to prove anything, except to rule other issues out, such as self mutilation, domestic violence etc.Its no different than a demonic attack, how does one prove it to the police or a doctor? So with that said, I believe Demonics are capable of just about any evil act..JN

Supernatural attacks and manifestations: an analysis

by Dr Beverley Sequeira

January 23, 2004



Well, it's a question, which while as old as mankind is one that finds itself being addresses even today. All civilisation have been shown to have sense of insecurity and fear over spotty but recurring reports of phenomenon that leave man feeling victimised by hostile beings with supernatural powers.The most common human response to incidents such as these is naturally confusion or fear and human beings indefinitely have responded to such supernatural challenges in various ways. Words, rites, amulets have ritually been employed in response to supernatural attacks and manifestations dating back even to the ancient Semitic civilization like the Babylonians and their feared Udog demons as it is seen in present day Christian rites of exorcism.



So how do we look at incidents such as those associated with supernatural phenomena? Do we believe or merely relegate it to the psychotic machinations of a fevered mind? Of course in our modern world there are three main stances which, no doubt in various combinations characterise the multitude of attitudes that individuals assume towards reports of siege by mysterious

powers.



The first is scientific - which views the world and perhaps the universe as being governed by unvarying laws that have either been discovered or at the least are discoverable by scientific investigation. Then diametrically opposed to this views the - shall we say - superstitious which focuses on unseen spiritual realities and seems to deplore if not ignore the findings of science, seeing empirical realities as shallow and meaningless. The third stance of course, contains a little of each and while adhering to science as a natural method, broadens the vistas of positive science, incorporating spiritual dimensions of reality through theological and philosophical consideration. This stance is based more on faith and cannot really be classified, but can be termed as the religious.



The reaction the world over, when any supernatural phenomena is reported is one of absolute disbelief, precipitating a response to deny the reality of reported data and inevitably to refuse to examine the minute amounts of evidence there. Make no mistake - such phenomena does occur and to ordinary people and their families that are neither exhibitionists nor attention seekers. However, one cannot ignore that superstitious people seize on psychic phenomena for a sometimes unreasonable approach to life interjecting irrational fears and senseless preconceived notions and explanations.



What the best way to confront the issue - one might ask? Well, I suppose the balanced view to take is while admiring and accepting the findings of modern science and concluding that even projecting future development, it is without doubt myopic to think that nature does not reveal a depth of reality beyond the empirical realm of natural science. Thus it is evident that no matter what stance an individual adopts, will rest on certain prejudices that cannot be proven to the satisfaction of those who choose to adopt a different construct.



When any psychic phenomena does occur it is quite normal for people to be equally repelled by the naivete of the superstitious, the uncertainty of those who profess faith in the supernatural, but seem confused at their own beliefs and the haughty pride of those who assert with certainty things contradictory to one's own explanation. Ultimately the person who has experienced the phenomena is no doubt caught in a complex web of ignorance, bias and fear which exacerbate the individual?s suffering.



Psychiatrists hypothesize that concepts of such supernatural phenomena are usually based on rumors and mindsets. Many issues we believe are rarely based on facts rather on the ?I heard it form her? factor. In such cases there are said to be basic errors in communication i.e. deletion, distortion and generalisation.



So when an individual goes through a experience, his mind tends to delete and distort facts and people generally tend to generalise the issue making it a mindset. Another aspect is that if one has a high fear / anxiety quotient then that person would not be able to think rationally. Oliver Goldsmith said, 'Don't let us make imaginary evils, when you know, we have so many real ones to encounter'.



There are lots of uncertainties connected with the paranormal - however it would be remiss not to be warned of the dangers of both, an arrogance that professes a grasp of the unknown and that of a bravado that boasts of the control of the transcendent. It is rightly said that 'a wise man knows what he does not know.' However it is a prudent man who respects what he cannot

control.

"Forgot the name....it's an abandoned hospital in London, Kentucky. Guy was shoved downstairs into a pile of asbestos. "

Southeastern Kentucky Baptist Hospital, close to Corbin also. It was demolished either this month or last.

i never dealt with d unknown.

so y fuss abt sumfing that is not known.
but stories will be told forever from yesteryears till now.
i believed human will only be attacked by human n animals only!
but of course not d unknown.

I guess some people are fascinated by it all and like to research and study certain things.

By the way, I don't mean to be funny or anything, but what's with substituting "the" with "d"?

Text talk can be annoying to read and sometimes impossible , I know I am being petty, but it is irritating.

I agree, I have no clue what he is saying.

But ok English is not my native language...

Overdramatise it? I wouldn't mention that to a rape victim if I were you. Since none of us were there, we have no idea just how "dramatic" it was. But if it was a rape, it certainly was traumatic and could hardly be overdramatised. Hollywood can't begin to portray the real fear and agony a victim of this heinous act endures. If anything, Hollywood didn't do it justice by underplaying it. ~Jackal

I agree I was also dissapointed by the movie (but it is a good movie anyway, so if u have the chance...watch it) imo they were to busy to show rape scenes and breast shots rather than human suffering (her suffering).

I heard a story about Alcatraz prison where a prisoner was screaming things like "Oh god! It's gonna kill me!" for hours one night and stopped abruptly sometime around midnight. The gaurds ignored him. When the gaurds saw his cell the next day, he was dead with strangling and I think claw marks on his neck. I don't know if I have all the facts on this story, but its all I know.

I have to concur. I sometimes resort briefly to rap'n for humors sake. But to read it over and over is most annoying. lol.

I seem to recall something of this nature. A particular cell that was known for very violent "suicides". Although there was much debate (and the point of the article) whether they were in fact suicides. The men apparently died most horribly, and alone. Their crys for help were ignored by guards. ~Jackal

I have been to Alcatraz myself. What a place. I won't go into posting my personal experiences with the location here, but I do have a good link on the history and hauntings of Alcatraz. If any of you get a chance to visit, you really should.

full descriptive history of Alcatraz plus anecdotes on paranormal experiences (including the "ghost murder"):
http://theshadowlands.net/famous/alcatraz.htm

great story. There's a movie there!

I have personally been attacked 3 times in my life, the first I was approximately 3 1/2 years old when my cat TOM TOM was wittnessed by both my parents to have a demon jump inside him. The demon was very small looked like a man but about the height of maybe 2 ft tall my parents said and he had on checkered green and orange pants...I dont remember this attack. My cat always slept with me at the foot of my bed and this night he had become possessed he went to the top of my bed and lay down on my head which was under the covers I was always sleeping that way until something else had happened to change that.
Tom was abnormally heavy my mom said after the incident ocurred. But he laid on my head smothering me I of course was kicking and screaming crying out for help. At first my parents said they were frozen not from fear but litterally paralyzed.
When they finally jerked the cat from my body he fled from the house and back then their was not animal rights laws and even if there was my dad would still have shot and killed him just like he did that night.
The second time I was on an investigation with the members of my group and we heard running through the woods towards us and after several photos and a long evp session the running grew louder and heavier and closer I told my friend to get back in the car but be careful and as soon as I said that whatever was running throgh the woods hit me with such orce it picked me off the ground slammed me down and I couldnt breath for a minute or two just sitting there stunned and then I caught my breath got up went to the car gathered my composure and we left.
The third time we investigated my friends grandmothers homeplace where it was rumored that a woman with post partum had took a hat pin on a night it was misting rain and drove the pin into her collicy infants temple. The night we went it was misting rain so we didnt try to get photos because of false positives but we did snap a few here and there in hopes of an apparition showing up.
We heard the infant crying and everytime we would get close to the sound it moved, well after a few hours of this we decided to try to take photos of the supposed bloody hand prints that would show up when that baby cried, we found those prints and tried to get many photos of which I think we only got 1 maybe 2 and we was exhausted so we decided to leave and on the way out of the little run down cabin everyone made it out but me I was being held by something pulling my hair, at first it was just a few strands of hair and my hair wasnt exceptionally long at the time but none the less it was being pulled I told my friend to unhang my hair, she looked but nothing visable had hold of it but it was being pulled.
She walked outside again and I tried to walk out the doorway to the outside but it began to pull even harder, this time I said aloud for who ever was pulling my hair to stop right now!!! At this point the pull became a jerk and a large chunk of my hair fell to the floor.
After this happened I was vey angry but didnt want to face this spirit so we left a little less hair than I had come with.
We later found out that my friends mother and sister had visited the old house as young adults to dig flowers and my friends mother was a young girl she said she remembered there being an old man on the porch of this house and when they put their flowers on the porch to save for taking home the old man looked at her saying Im going to kill those flowers and he would stand up from a sitting position and stomp the flowers. When the older sister saw the flowers she got mad at the younger wanting to know why she did that to the flowers and no matter what she said no one believed her about the old man being on the porch.
She said that she had forgot about that happening until we tol her about the hair incident and she was convinced that my hair being pulled was by that same mean old man that stomped her flowers so long ago.
But thats my account of actually being attacked but there are a few other things that happened and maybe some I will have to think about before I can post them on here some I have tried to forget about and have been successful until something else happens or someone asks me a question then it floods my memories with great detail.
Love and Light to all,
Amanda
http://www.geocities.com/tennesseeghostchasers1/index.html

There have been a few at Port Arthur Tasmania I will dig up the stories for you later.