RSPK (recurrent spontaneous psychokinesis) is a term used to describe when paranormal activity happens often around a particular individual (referred to as the "agent'), which is often described as poltergeist activity. The activity can range from apparitions to objects moving about on their own. I noticed quite often in this forum posters referring to poltergeists as demons, or trickster spirits. The activity surrounds a person who is often under great stress, or the type of person who suppresses their emotions. RSPK is often associated with adolescents because they are going through puberty which can cause a strong emotional state, but the agent can be anyone that meets the criteria, regardless of age or gender.
Here's a link about RSPK from the Journal of Parapsychology: Poltergeists, Electromagnetism and Consciousness

Its been a thought of mine for a while that demons could also be the result of rspk . we all know most poltergeists are now attributed to rspk . and ive often wondered why that hasnt been looked into or more commonly mentioned when dealing with apparent demonic hauntings/possesions .



Good thread i'll be interested to see how this goes .

blessings ss79 x x x

It could be like telekonises... when you get angry or frustrated things electrical etc start to play up. I guess your mind can be pretty powerfull...

That's exactly what RSPK is. The person doesn't know they are doing it. It has also been known to cause apparitions, smells, cold spots, so people think it's ghosts or demons, but it's really a person. So they move, but it "follows" them. This is because it is them, not an external entity. Usually when the person becomes aware it is them the activity ceases, but this is not always the case (which is something I have learned from personal experience). The activity comes in waves: it starts out with little things, like electrical stuff going on and off on it's own, strange odors and noises, but then increases to apparitions, and then to objects moving on their own, even flying through the air. Stuff breaking, lightbulbs exploding. Sometimes it is violent. The activity increases more as the agent gets frightened from all this, especially if some ill-informed "medium" tells them it is a malevolent spirit. One way to ensure the activity worsens is by causing even more stress on the people involved by performing exorcisms, etc. These people who think they are doing good are actually feeding the problem. The main thing the "haunted" person needs is stress reduction techniques, like exercise, yoga, or meditation (which is often discouraged because many superstitious people believe meditation will leave you open to evil entities). You can see why mediums and demonologists getting involved in these cases often makes things worse.

Hmm, you make it sound as if this idea is actually fact in your topic title?.... a big mistake when it comes to apprehending logic which you are so fond about yet have very little understanding on. Sorry but this idea is just as ludicrous as the idea of poltergeist and spirits themselves, and not much worser than the belief in psychic powers which I presume you would have trouble acknowledging. In fact, the wild idea that poltergeist stem from extraterrestrial beings or other mysterious lifeforms would hold more value than this. Sorry I'm just being skeptical, it's part of my nature since being on here

Yep, I believe Poltergeists do exist many times around pre-teens or teenagers. because they somehow connect to spirits at that age. Also its known that Polgergeist activity is not the same as a Poltergeist. Many can mimic the other. Also Polgergeists can become malevolent spirits causing lots of negative activity as well. The difference between a Poltergeist and a Demonic is like night and day in my opinion. Parapsychologists have pretty much lost all credibility over the years, due to articles such as this..JN

Good thread!! I haven't quite finished reading the link yet, but it is very interesting.
Since the human body uses electrical impulses in the nervous system, I've often wondered if this didn't have something to do with all of the light flickering and other electrical type things that go on in Poltergeist cases.
Before anyone says it, I know that it is a different type of electricity, I'm just saying, that this has crossed my mind.
I'm kinda on the fence about Poltergeists, not sure whether they are purely some sort of spirit activity or purely the hormone and stress driven individual "agent" causing chaos.
I love to learn new things, so thank you fylgja, for posting this!

Very interesting. This concept is not that new, but very interesting, none the less. I do not discount its' applications, in theory. Further research may indeed substantiate and even affirm RSPK applied principles. But statistically speaking, it would not account for the numerous cases world-wide. Therefore I remain with an open mind, with acceptance and consideration of both scientific and paranormal reasoning regarding these strange and currently unexplanable events. Great post. ~Jackal

I dont know, the idea is tempting, but I am somehow skeptical around poltergeist's.
Yes the mind is powerfull, yes phenomena who mimic ghost activity can be created in certain conditions (see how to create a ghost) but my dear fylgja, these are just speculations we dont haveany proff around poltergeist beside few pic, vids and some witness. So in the end it is just a matter of faith.

And since we are talking of faith or belive, well I dont see why poltergeist phenomena is not a sub manifestation who can lead to a demonic haunting.
About poltergeist's I am also skeptical around the theori that it is a energy produced by the mind, it is a old theory (still far from bein proved) who goes back to the '70 and maybe even older. It is however possible that poltergeist's a simple spirits who attach to individual who has certain energy patterns in certain conditions.
The romans belived in larva's simple evil spirit's who could evolve in evil genius. Perhaps thise spirits feed on negative energy? The question is why thise parasite spirits orbit around certain people and not everyone who's stressed/depressed? I have a idea perhaps some people have a more favorable energy emission who is compatible with the need of simple spirits...and this explain why poltergeist's dont affect everybody. Just like mosquitos favor certain people to other. But who knows...maybe poltergeist's in realyty ARE a produce of the mind.
But IMO one dont exclude another, after all we have desises and pschosomatic desises, but no serious doctor would ever dream to give candy to a person who is really sick and not just emulating some symptoms.

ciao

The body can generate energy. We all have EM fields of varying strengths. Who's to say we cant generate gravimetric energy when extremely stressed? I have a battery opperated Watch that I bought just before my 18th birthday. It still works and I am almost 39 years old. Still the same battery and it is not a self charging kinetic watch either. I suspect that my bodies EM field is keeping the battery charged. So how much energy can we produce and what types of energy?

Are you kidding me? Lost credibility? If anything it has helped them gain crediibility! It shows they are emergening from the dark ages of demons and into the age of science. Have you ever encountered poltergeist activity? It can be violent, because it emerges from human energy. What other creature could possibly be more violent than humans? If it is an evil entity, why does it center only around one person? Why does it cease when the agent becomes more relaxed? It definitly comes in waves: it builds up as the agent's stress level builds up, and then when it ceases the agent feel better, more calm, like a giant weight has been lifted off of their mind. Perhaps spirits are attracted to this energy, which may explain the manifestations, but RSPK is a real phenomena. Anyone seriously in the field of paranormal research has encountered it.

Being open to all possiblities is a good thing. Can't blame you for that.
I just don't think the fear mongering, "eek it's a demon come to swallow you soul," is very productive. I believeit is completely reasonable to assume poltergeist activity (which centers around an individual) is caused by the individual and not by a demon following them around. The Rhine Research Institute has done many studies on this subject. I know someone personally that participated in a study. And now they are working on a way to help people control this phenomena for healing purposes.

Wow! That's amazing. I can't wear a watch with a hand. It breaks within a few hours. I've even seen my watches start working backwards. lol
My husband doesn't let me touch his anymore. But my digital watch has been working for years without a change in battery. I grew up right across the street from a huge power station. I would fall asleep listening to it hum away outside my bedroom window. I often wonder if I soaked up a bunch of EM from it.

Just as imagination, hallucinations, uncertainty and wishful thinking (among a few other things) are often mistaken for RSPK.



And with it, the need to seek attention.

That could be true in some cases as welol, but not in all. There is plenty of research an evidence to indicate this is a real phenomena. Read the link if you doubt it.

I often wonder and this is a question for you fyalgia i just read on another thread where you said . ive learnt to live with it .
Have you noticed at all that once we learn to live with it rather than fear it or be even curious of it that it stops or slows down immensly .

I stated some events in my house that i coudnt fully explain on that thread but i have noticed that since i have come to just accept them as a part of the house and even ignore them really. laugh or shrug them off that they have decreased in the amount of times i will hear .experience them ? i wonder if its some type of mild rspk ? energy is energy and if it can be manifested with intensity when emotions are high there should be no reason why it couldnt be subtle or is there ?

i guess im asking if our reactions are a factor in wether the phenomena increases or decreases

have you noticed this with you at all or has anyone else ??

blessings SS79 x x x

This could be the same case as they feed of fear.. the more you fear the phenomena the worse it gets!!!

I understand what your saying but i never really was afraid per se . more curious than anything , and this is a common saying they feed on fear, maybe its us that feed on fear the more scared we become the higher our energy is therefore putting out more . maybe it isnt a they at all maybe its us .

another thing is RSPK should work from all sides, if it works from negative energy we emit to create poltergeist activity. can the same be said for high happy emotions . ?

Have you ever noticed when your happy/content things run smoothly, when your stress/negative everything breaks down from the photocopier to the coffee machine.

yeah , and i understand that but what im saying is that shouldnt it work both ways ? if it is energy ?

Yes... But how would good/positive energy be portrayed?

LOL i have no idea this is why im wondering


I guess it could be the same really but with less negative tones . same kind of thing but we may not percieve it as negative as we are not in the scared fight or flight mode ..

See i actualy like the rspk theory, and i find it to be a very plauisble explanation for poltergeist activity. Here in the uk a lot of paranormal researchers and mediums believe this as well. to be a good theory of the events and say there is more evidence to support it than it being spirit related .

The only thing that bugs me is too buy this theory, then you kind of have to think that if one can manipulate matter subconciously with emotional energy, then do you also have to accept all the psi kiddies who believe they can do it when they wish. I find a lot of their stories hard to believe and no evidence to support the fact it can be done intentionally .

blessings SS79 x x x

Its a good theory when you think about it... for instance if a spirit/ghost(not poltergeist) can use its energy to move objects then the human energy can do the same...

I agree we should be able to do similar things to spirits as we are spiritual. Now people are saying Demons are not Demons but RSPK...... There is a minor flaw here. You are saying that Demon (scientificaly unproven in fact) is actualy RSPK (scientificaly unproven in fact). In actuality if RSPK is real then Demons are also as real by association. Which is nice because that would mean a lot of other things are real by association such as God, psychic powers, Angels....all sorts of things. So some cases could be RSPK, some could be Demons or even spirits. Rspk could also attract Demons and Spirits. So what starts as RSPK could finish being Demonic.....get my drift?

We are once again stuck with the question of proof or faith.

Hutchinson Effect often mistaken for RSPK?

For most people this is true, but not all. The only time in my life I saw a decrease was when I was on a lot of prescription medications for anxiety that actually came on from the experiences. I stopped the medication because it made me feel like a zombie just going through the motions in life. But for most people when they become aware it is them (and not demons or ghosts) the activity ceases. Why would a demon suddenly decide "hey, they think it's themselves doing it so I will stop..." ?

I think the hutchinson effect is actually part of rspk, though I could be wrong. I think Hutchinson was actually caught doctoring some of his expiriments to show results for the Discovery Channel.

I agree, I dont see any evidence at all who makes poltergeist's a credible phenomena, only hearsay. BUT the same can also be said regard demons and ghost's.

Personally, I feel more closer to the demon/entity explanation rather than a mysterious energy who surround some people.
Anyway, one thing does not exclude another.

But Fylgja we dont know how demons think, we dont know how they see us, we dont know how they sense us. Personally I do belive they feed on energy, there are some people who have a particular energy emission, and perhaps they demons attach to them.
And that explain also why not all people are assaulted by demons. When a person is in fear or anxiety emit more energy, and perhaps that feeds the evis spirit (or we can use the term recharge) and that explain also why the assault cease when the person become more relaxed (in some cases)...less fear, less energy output. More fear, more energy. And this explain also why evil spirits hurt and attach some people. To make them afraid.

That's what I think.

I wouldn't take much stock into the hutchinson effect. NASA has been trying to duplicate the same experiments but with no results. When they asked Hutchinson to demonstrate the same experiments he could not, by which he often made excuses to not even try. Such as the Military trashed his lab, or the law preventing him for doing so.

Something else I found rather weird, he sold the recordings of his experiments for 100 bucks a pop.

Regardless, I do not take into account the hutchinson effect for various reasons.

I do however agree with fylgia and spiritual. Spiritual and I have talked about this in pm's and basically word for word on what i exactly feel on the subject. With some minor flaws here and there of course.

Good post Lux, But what people dont understand is Demons dont just go seeking out people with depression, or negative emotions or anything like that. There are usually three reasons why one has a Demonic Haunting. Number one, it is attached to the land or home, and when they move in, it becomes active. Of course people are fearing of the goings on by something they cannot see, so the Demonic feeds of the fear, and that allows it to gain strength and energy, and it just escalates from there. Secondly they can enter by following a loved one who has just passed, and the family is grieving, and at an all time low, so it can disguise itself as that loved one in order to again, feed off emotions. Lastly, for the most part, they enter due to someone on that house, that has dabbled or dabbling with the occult. It doesnt matter how happy, sad or relaxed we are. It doesnt matter what our religious beliefs are, or our denomination. It doesnt matter if we are horribly mean or wonderful people. They choose their victims once they enter and can attach themselves to just one, or the entire household. The more fear a person shows, the more the Demonic messes with them, and that is their main goal, is to instill fear and terrorize humans, anyone, at any time..Even if a person with no haunting fears demons, that doesnt cause one to enter. They are way too intelligent and know exactly what they are doing. JN

I would be very interested in hearing your thoughts on the subject, enjay. If you don't want to discuss them here to be scrutinized by the fear mongerers you can message me.

Well, it's really not just negative emotions that trigger RSPK, sometimes happy emotions can. I don't like to talk about my experiences often for various reasons, but I have seen 5 pound objects thrown 5 feet through the air while the agent was happy and laughing without a care in the world.
I don't see any reason why there would be evil invisible entities harassing people because they live off the energy from their negative emotions. What could they gain? Also, positive emotions create more energy, IMO.

Message sent fylgia

When I say "Hutchinson Effect" I (and I think Hutchinson himself) include things like http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/polter.html

wow this is why i was asking . i have seen a table lamp literally fly from a table and smash on the opposite wall when the girl who apparently had poltergeist activity surrounding her was laughing and joking around . those around her assumed the entity was pissed that she was having fun . however i dont believe that too be true . Once she got out of the phase of trying to rebel against her parents and came to terms with some issues the activity stopped completely. She had big emotional problems after a divorce of her parents and it was concluded that it was this which had triggered it . she was fine for five years and then after split with her boyfriend the activity started up again . she actually admits now . shes an adult that she didnt know what caused it but she loved the fact it happened as it gained her lots of attention . sad really but she wasnt just at fault the whole family were really .

Blessings SS79 x x x

Sometimes I wish I could witness something like this to put my mind to ease. So I can feel better about spending as much money as I spend on investigating

i could throw something at ya if ya like

I never really wanted to tell these things on this forum because well you know how it is . but once someone else has excperienced the same things it doesnt seem so bad . and the fact that theres a more rational explanation helps also !!!

Well, there are ways of telling them. You can bring anything up, but its the way you take what people say is how the thread goes. You are pretty level headed so you shouldn't ever fear of saying anything, usually its those who are so narrow minded and only accept what they want to that is when it turns ugly.

Yeah but soemtimes the simplest things can get out of hand LOL . I actually love to hear others opinions it allows me to find other explanations that i may not have thought of .

SS79 x x x

Due to simple minded ppl I understand what you are talking about though.

could use the Iggy button for them i supppose but im too darn Nosy . im like a cat the curiousity would Kill me LOL

yeah, me too. But some people get stuck in their ways, and they don't want to accept the possibility that it could be something else.

This is true

I think everyone has experienced the paranormal at one time or another. The phenomenon is too widely dispersed and documented in the most ancient of tablets. And from those times on, the phenomenon has remained an intricale thread in the fabric of every society, civilized or not. But I believe people either...

A. Simply fail to recognize it.

B. Or, being a matter of little perceived consequence, they discount it and never give it another thought.

C. Or, they ponder its' meaning briefly, and then doubt their own sanity or their own perception of the event.

D. And they sometimes weight the event so strenuously, that it is over analyzed to the point that any normal reason for the occurrence is accepted, no matter how obsurd.

The event itself, however you define it, occurs arbitrarily and with little discrimination. Whether you believe your own eyes is another matter entirely. I recognize the hairs standing on the back of my neck, as a primitive warning system. I rely on this system more than most, because of the environment I am in. But I believe this warning system does not distinguish between perceived threats from the natural world, or from beyond it. If you feel that you are being observed or watched, most likely...you are. If you feel that you are not alone, you probably aren't. There is a reason these most rudimentary survival mechanisms developed within humans (and almost any biological organisms that consciously strive to live). I for one, trust them. ~Jackal

Yea what he said...

Adults do not always have adult level conversations. I have disagreed with your posts vehemently on many occassions. We do not tangle, however, because SS...we are adults respecting of the others opinion. And we don't call eachother names or politically sounding labels. I enjoy hearing others opinions as well. I have even been swayed on occassion. I am certainly open to it. But measures of evidence and the seeking of truth has little to do with being nice and respecting the others opinions. Being nice is merely a matter of doing so. I disagree with you constantly, and I enjoy every thread you are apart of. "Blessings" to YOU, my friend. ~Jackal

yes i know, negative beings feed on negative energy, just like we have vegetarian and meat eater animals have a different diet.

If the victim is happy, the demons makes them unhappy...simple as that.

I dont say poltergeist's doesent exist, but IMO is unwise to exclude demons. One thing doesent exclude another...do u agree?

what JN said, i could not explain it better

not sure about absorbing stuff, but you probably have some phychic ability, iv read reports about people starting up watches and stopping them, its quite amazing.