let me tell you what happened to me recently, in early February 2007 there was a planetary alignment, and the night before this alignment, i had a mental and physical experience, and was hospitalised for a week due to this.

I had experienced a brief so called psychotic episode, something like this has never happened to me before, and i believe after this experience it has left me feeling enlightened in certain areas and a thirst to find out more..what i experienced that night was very strange and unbelievable, i felt being surrounded by numerous presences and something which was extremely evil and i also felt the presence of a bright light shining upon me

i started talking differently, i was infatuated with the colour green, i was petrified of all women, especially my mother and sisters...sumthing in there eyes that night that they were not normal..

i was constantly reciting prayers, i felt like they formed a protective barrier.. between me and whtever it was that had surrounded me that night
eh you are you ok ,,, you seem as thoe your lonley eh x

i start concentrating on hand gestures ....

let me try and explin the last time i tried stopping my meds...

i was at my aunts home.....and all of a sudden...time sort of slowed down...i started looking at everyone hands...i saw them making signals with the hands etc etc...

freaked me out a little...

then i got in the car...and drove home...took me about 20 mins...

i was constantly reciting prayers again...

i recalll...driving past sum people on the road...and it was like they had frozen in time... statues....

i recall driving past sum children...and they randomly looked at me as i was driving past and said sumting to me...cant remeber what...

i got home...cleanesed my self and started praying...then my family came home...and they relaised i was acting strangley...and they immediatley gave me my meds...with ten mins i was normal again...

one thing....i do remember feeling at that time...was the presence of this evil things again.... sumthing very evil...like the presence of the devil himself...

ive been on the meds ever since... taking a very low dosage....but im really scared that if i come off this thing will start happeing again...

its like my brain tunes into this otehr frequency....and its scary...

Months prior to this i also have experienced some very strange dreams, of a very religious context

Another thing which gets me is that in 2008 they are having the Olympics of 2008 on my birthday, the opening ceremony is on 08/08/08 at 08:08:08. And this may be to do with the rings of Saturn, im not sure as to the full details of why they hold it on such a day, but with me being a leo and the age of Aquarius due to come in soon, i have learnt that Leo will be the natural opposition of Aquarius

I am thirty three yrs of age...this number also holds special significance

its many months on now, but i remember everything vividly like it was yesterday...i still feel cautious about everything..

i feel like i was awakend or sumthing that night...

i feel like i can sense things around me, sense subliminal message in the media..not directed at me...but to the wider audience...a kind of brainwashing...i cant explain it...but all my senses changed that night...they were heightened then...kinda dampened now...but still there...

i do realise the "8 " thing is more than prob superstition....

as for the rings of saturn i dont know musch, but i have read the Olympics are related to the rings of saturn in sumway or another...(going by there logo)

as for the dreams.....i dont wish to disclose to much...

but they were highly religious...for sumone who was not that religious at the time...

an example of one dream....

i saw a crucifix going round me in circles....the crucifix fell to the ground...i neared the person on the cross....as i neared the individual....a cloud of light came from this person and came towards me....

had so many more dreams, but dont want to go into them....

also....sum dreams started coming true...

i had approx 4 dreams which came true (sum a a few days later and sum a year later)

i do recall at the time of this "episode"

i saw many signs and symbols...all related to masonary....via the media..etc etc...

anotehr thing....i was constantly looking at people and the hand gestures they were making...

i thought i cud see hidden meanings into the V sign.....and one index finger raised and all kinds of other wierd stuff...

they asked me when i was admitted to hospital...sum really wierd questions...

like....

am i on a mission from god?

do i think im a prophet?

do i have a message for the world?

etc etc

i was in my senses at this time....cudnt help but think how wierd these questions are....

the kept me in for a week....for observation...nuthing happened again... so they let me go home...

but i still have this eerie feeling continiously, kinda frighting at times...

i cant get it out my head....the visions and sounds and sights and smells what i saw that night...

when i was in hospital....i was locked in my room, there was a mirror in the room....which was clear....

when i looked at it again...it had three letter on it....written on with a permanent subtance...

i was so freaked out ..i called my uncle in and asked him to cover the mirror immediatley....he called in a nurse who came in a scraped of the letters with a knife...

the letters i think were..."RFK" or "RCK"

no idea what they mean...and i have no idea how they came to appear on the mirror...

i was making the v sign to everyone that night...not with the two fingers but...with my thumb and index finger....

i think i thought there was ahidden meaning in the sign...

i started talking differently.... my voice changed....

i felt extremely cold... i was shiverining...

i felt sumthing rising from the backof my neck going into my skull....felt liek a pulse... but in the back of ur neck...going into the base of ur skulll...

i was reading the story of the 7 sleepers of ephesus at that time when all this happned.....

i honestly felt like i was one of them....who had just been awakened...

i do realise alot of it sounds crazy....

but to me it was so real....

and left me with scars....and thoughts still which freak me out constantly on a dialy basis....

things like this never happned to me b4...hence my trying to understand what it was that went on....

have started seeing patterns in things....

numbers...stories...news....

i can now read the messages portrayed by media...

a strong sense of the presence or the soon to arrive antichrist...

a insight into masonry

a insight into magic

just sum form of deeper awakening inside me.... a 6th sense sort of...

one scholar did also. say the story of the sleepers can bring on changes,,, and quoted to me a man who was reading the same story and his horse started prancing...when he stopped the horse stopped.. when he started reading the horse started dancing again..

i have been reading into physcosis quite abit...

and the info i get bk is....

1, awakening of the kundalini...
2, shamanic journey
3, chemical imbalance in the brain

not of it really makes sense to me....but one report about the kundalini had the exact same symtoms as me, ( the coldness, shivering, and sumting rising from the back of the neck)

i have alse read of other people say they thought there own mothers were the anti christ... i didint think that but i did think she was possessed by sum form of evil spirt..


any advice appreciated ....

tks in advance

and?

Hi kais, my ex had very similar experiences as you had. he was diagnosed with paranoid scizophrenia. If he takes his medication he is fine.

I saw a documentary yesterday about mental illness visions, feelings >it was really interesting. Many people can have this after a brain trauma (even small injuries)and even after "severe emtional " stress. (it can chnage your brain chemistry).
If the meds help that should have given you a clue.

Your brain will perceive what it is exposed/conditioned to. This is why people of different cultures/beliefs have different visions/experiences.

What are your interests ?

all good and welll...it dont explain how it just came on out of the blue all of a sudden bk in febuary..

it dont explain the dreams i been having....sum of which started coming true...

it dont explain the presences i felt...

of course the rational explanation is phycsocis or schizophrenia.......but it dont explain the symptoms i felt when it was happening...

for example...

awakening of the kundalini...

symptoms..

rising from the back into the neck and into the skull

extreme heat and cold..

i felt both these symptoms...

so i dont know what it was...

and like the doctors and shrinkss said... that sumtimes..."once awakned u cant go bk to sleep"....or rather,,,once it happen it cud contiinue to happen...

it dont explain why everthting that happned that night was so religious....in nature...etc...

i mean everything about it seemed religious...

u asked what my interests are.......anything and everything al long as i find it interesting..!

and anotehr thing....i have seen the docs andd shrinks....they advised its more than prob a one off bout of physcosis...

so they say...

they did full tests and sent me for a brain scan...all came out normal...

so why was it such a religious experience.....was it physcosis....or was it summat else.

You had an episode of psychosis. You have stated such.
An altered mental state affects how we perceive events around us. You cannot rely on the 'information' you received to to your altered mental state.
You would be well advised to forget the "mystical" elements and focus on getting better.
As for what triggered the event? It could be anything. Anything tangible that is.

Once had an EDP in custody. For those unfamiliar, EDP stands for emotionally disturbed person, and can be the result of anything from drug/alcohol ingestion to epileptic seizures to full blown pyschotic episodes.
This guy swore up and down that A - The Officers in the section were plotting his demise,
and
B - that there were 2 foot long green spiders in his cell.
After listening to him alternately cursing us all at the top of his lungs, to preaching loudly for 6 hours, I did a naughty thing.
I stepped into his cell and whispered in his ear "Just wait until the 4 foot purple ones show up" and left him for the next shift to deal with. From what I was told, he was then convinced that there were, indeed purple spiders in his cell.

MLOR, after you have spent 6 hours listening to the carp from an EDP, as well as dealing with all the other elements of a night shift detail, you tell me how you would have dealt.
I admit it wasn't the kindest thing to do, but reasoning with the individual was tried, unsuccessfully several times. Short of taping his mouth shut, there was nothing we could do until he was transferred to Bellevue but listen to his ramblings.

Thats easy: we are telling him that it isn't a "spiritual" presence he feels/felt, but misperceptions from his off balanced mental state.


How would you like it if your "grand revelations" turned out to be hallucinations instead?

im not christian by the way...im a muslim...and i did speak to one of the best known islamic scholars in the uk personally myself last week...

all he said was reading the story of the 7 sleepers can do strange things..

all i know is i was completly fine one min....and then i was reading the story of the 7 sleepers and thats when i freaked out...and all what i described happned.

so i dont know what happened thats why i posted on here...to see im other people have had simaler experiences...and can explain to me the kundalini stuff or the shaminc stuff to me more in detail..

Well I feel you should look for the scientific answers not supernatural (which you seem to prefer)> I know the scientific answers are ho hum boring.

We do have muslims on this forum and i am sure some will answer any questions you have soon -so be patient



I wasn't referring to you in general about" instant demon">but i find it rather odd that only people that believe in the supernatural experience demons, don't you ?

I have a little theory about that though,purely hypothetical

but i find it rather odd that only people that believe in the supernatural experience demons, don't you ?

I have a little theory about that though,purely hypothetical

like i stated earlier in my posts, the reason why im looking to religion...is obviously due to my symptoms..

1, i was reading the 7 sleepers story

2, i freaked out

3, i felt presences after reading the story

4, i was constanty praying, whch i honestly felt like, my prayers were acting as a barrier between me and whatever it was that was going on that night.

5, religious scholar told me it can happen when reading this chapter.

6, my dreams, (before everything that happned) were of a religious nature

7, my dreams again started coming true,

medicine or modern science can never explain my dreams coming true...

only religion can...

I often have dreams that come true also. I DEFINITELY believe in ESP too.

But you must be wary & careful if you have been diagnosed with psychosis.

I hope someone can help you, kais ! But it won't be me, I wish I had answers for you.

What is the story of the 7 sleepers about? I must confess i have never read it.

Kais, as I understand your original posting, you are under a physician's treatment for an illness.

If you have questions about your treatment, then you might get a second opinion from a physician, a psychiatrist. Your current physician may be happy to provide such a referral.

You may wish to ask whether this second opinion ought to be from a therapist trained in the methods of the late R.D. Laing, who researched the spiritual dimensions of psychotic episodes.

Beyond that, though, I am surprised that the moderators have left this open. It is risky to substitute web advice for the medical advice which you need at this time.

Great, we have one suffering from mental imbalance, and another feeding his psychosis. wonderful.


Kais, you say you were reading the 7 sleepers when your first episode occurred.
Do you remember your mindset BEFORE the event?
Were you religious before reading the story?

I do not like to scare people, but Kundalini psychosis does occur, and so I find it appropriate to address the topic.

I am not a psychiatrist, psychologist, or a medical doctor. I am not legally qualified, or competent to discern or judge your relative sanity, or lack of it. I can only speak of my experiences, research, and observations, as a layman. My comments are not intended to supersede, contradict, or be a replacement for competent psychiatric advice. Always seek the advice of a physician with any unusual symptoms, especially if they persist.

Most spontaneously awakened Kundalites fear that they are going insane. It is one of the big fears to be gotten over as part of the process, along with the fear of death...

Let us approach if first, by considering: how is insanity, defined? The current method is psychiatry... but psychiatry is an infant science, scarcely more than a century old, still growing and changing, whereas the process of spiritual awakening, is as old as humanity.

Decades ago, homosexuality and masturbation were considered signs of insanity by the psychiatric community, whereas now they are considered normal, or simply an alternative expression. We all fear death, yet we all are going to die someday. By some strict, and perhaps old fashioned psychiatric definitions, we awakened folks *are* all a little crazy. There are a few, wise modern psychiatrists who have spent a lifetime defining what is insanity, and what is a different type of sanity, which includes Kundalini awakening, - that they call "Spiritual emergence."

Most awakened people slip into some sort of psychosis at least temporarily along the way, usually it is harmless and transient.

Sometimes, it is not.

There are several books out, that compare Kundalini to schizophrenia and conclude they are the same thing. Personally, I do see that they have much in common, but I believe there are distinctions.
Schiophrenia and Kundalini, both involve the process of an old, ineffective sense of self (ego) being gradually broken down, dismantled so a new healthy sense of self can emerge and take over.
Schiophrenics and Kundalites, often experience alternate realities, have visions, see lights, and hear voices.
Kundalites often experience unusual energies, and can experience miracles that are validated by also being experienced by others. Schizophrenics are usually alone in their experiences and self created realities.

I hesitate to warn of the possibility of psychosis, because fear can be creative. What you focus on can grow. Obsessing about fear of going insane, can drive you insane, it is circular... and arguably, the person who is most confident of their sanity, is possibly the one most blind to their psychosis.

It is quite a loop. Being afraid of going crazy, can make you crazy. Being certain of your sanity, could be insane or simply overconfident. Never considering that you could be crazy, is not quite safe, either. It is a razor edge.

Personally, I resolved the fear of insanity by deciding that I probably AM a little crazy, but I am happy and function well in the world, so why worry? I have had psychiatrists, therapists and psychologists among my clientele... presumably they would not seek my guidance if they thought I am insane, but that could mean I am only a little less crazy than they...

Privately, and humorously, I suspect that people become psychiatrists because they are secretly afraid that they really are insane, and want to diagnose and heal themselves before anyone else finds out! Many psychiatrists are in therapy, themselves... this does not mean they are crazy, only that they recognise the value of having a compassionate ear to listen to them, while they sort themselves out. Others may seek out friends, bartenders or hairstylists for the same reason.

Statistically, it is said that 2/3 of people have some form of psychosis, even if it is only a mild phobia. By those statistics, if normal is defined as average, and average includes 50% of the population, it is normal to be at least a little crazy! So, don't worry, be happy.

It is important to have faith. If Goddess wants you to be crazy, then you will be crazy. Kundalini is considered by many to be the most powerful force in the universe... so if it wants to make you insane, arguably there is not much you can do about it... but why would unconditional love, want to do that to you?

The serenity prayer is

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference.
When it comes to Kundalini psychosis, the wisdom to know the difference, is the challenge... I think that Kundalini does not make people insane, people make themselves insane, by resisting the process. Resistance is dangerous, and can definitely cause some kinds of psychosis.

Kundalini awakening is not always a clear road to enlightenment. There are many casualties along the way. Sadly, many fall into the trap of psychosis, temporarily or permanently. The most common psychosis is believing that they are somehow specially chosen to lead some great mission, save the world.

We are all special and unique, in Goddess eyes, ... regardless of who we are and what we do! Infinite manifestation creates uniqueness, and all of creation is special, loved, cherished... from the smallest pebble to the greatest leader.

Integrating that, actually leads to humility, not self aggrandizement. When you really begin to feel how much you are loved by the Divine, unconditionally, no matter what you say or do... there is no need to build yourself up with stories of your specialness. Simply Being, is enough. More blissful and radiant than self esteem via any other method, could ever be.

"Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me. I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see."
Because of the amazing charisma that is part of awakening, some psychotics may drag quite a few others along with them. Hitler was awakened, and his charisma could make women faint and grown men weep, when he spoke... he dragged a whole country along with him, and after the war many Germans snapped out of the trance and felt like they were waking from a long, bad dream. He is a human embodiment of my warnings about entities, with all his noise about the superior, special Aryans and their right to rule the world, for the good of the world, and at any cost.

Beware of any similar ideas that come to you, surrender them.

There are other forms of psychosis... when the power of thought to create reality becomes more active, the Zen master goal of a silent mind becomes an important tool for staying safe. What you focus on, will grow. If you focus on aliens coming in their Lightships to save the world, for example, you can create/travel into that reality, and manifest countless synchronicities to validate your beliefs. Is it true? It is true for you, at the time... but ask yourself, do you really want to live in a reality like that?

Your experience of reality can change, when you change what you choose to give attention to, and put your attention elsewhere. Consider your own life. Probably you are interested and emotionally invested in different things today, than when you were a child or a teenager, and your experience of reality has changed too.

Many forms of kundalini psychosis come and go, along the path. Some could be considered natural phases of the process. Remind yourself, "This too, shall pass." If it does not pass, or if you are concerned, then do not hesitate to seek the advice of a competent, K-friendly therapist. If you really do have a problem, then you will be glad you sought treatment. Sometimes being reassured that what you are going through, is normal spiritual emergence can be well worth the investment.

There is also the possibility that you have had an authentic shamanic awakening:

http://www.heartwisdom.net/articles/shamanicawakening.htm

Food for thought.

does physcosis bring on spiritual enlightment?...i dont think it does

does physcosis give u a deeper insight into masonry and the illuminati etc...i dont think so

Convinced that man is only a body, psychology and psychiatry have forwarded the idea that there is no soul, merely a physical brain, an aggregation of tissue and nerve cells.
And since man no longer has a soul, he can be degraded still further through all manner of barbaric “treatments.” In fact, the array of primitive methods dreamed up by “modern” psychiatrists includes hypnotic drugs, lobotomies, electric shock and bolts to the brain while a person is drugged and comatose — each of which leaves a person little more than a vegetable

The psychologist believes in materialism. This is the principle that all is purely matter — hopes, dreams, love, inspiration — all just chemical reactions in the brain. Following from this theory, he has attempted to create a society where the body is glorified over the spirit, and where material possessions are more important than one’s spiritual well-being.
In such a society, where spiritual values are no longer given credence, man soon loses touch with both his past and his future. Religion, then, becomes an “opiate,” while the new high priests of psychiatry, handsomely supported by taxpayers, conduct worthless government studies that provide no solutions

The representative of nineteenth-century atheism in psychology was the Austrian psychiatrist Sigmund Freud (1856-1939). He proposed a psychological theory that rejected the soul's existence and tried to explain humanity's whole spiritual world in terms of sexual and similar hedonistic motivations. But Freud's greatest assault was against religion. In his The Future of an Illusion, originally published in 1927, Freud proposed that religious faith was a kind of mental illness (neurosis) that would disappear completely as humanity progressed. Due to the primitive scientific conditions of the time, his theory was proposed without either the requisite research and investigation or any scholarly literature or possibility of comparison. Therefore, its claims were extremely deficient.
After Freud, psychology developed on an atheist foundation. Moreover, the founders of other schools of psychology were passionate atheists. Two of these were B. F. Skinner (1904-90), founder of the behaviorist school, and Albert Ellis (1913- ), founder of rational-emotive therapy. The world of psychology gradually became the forum for atheism. A 1972 poll among the members of the American Psychological Association revealed that only 1.1 percent of psychologists in the country had any religious beliefs.25
But most psychologists who fell into this great deception were undone by their own psychological investigations. The basic suppositions of Freudianism were shown to have almost no scientific support. Moreover, religion was shown not to be a mental illness, as Freud and some other psychological theorists declared, but rather a basic element of mental health. Patrick Glynn summarizes these important developments:
Yet the last quarter of the twentieth century has not been kind to the psychoanalytic vision. Most significant has been the exposure of Freud's views of religion as entirely fallacious. Ironically enough, scientific research in psychology over the past twenty-five years has demonstrated that, far from being a neurosis or source of neuroses as Freud and his disciples claimed, religious belief is one of the most consistent correlates of overall mental health and happiness. Study after study has shown a powerful relationship between religious belief and practice, on the one hand, and healthy behaviors with regard to such problems as suicide, alcohol and drug abuse, divorce, depression, even, perhaps surprisingly, levels of sexual satisfaction in marriage, on the other. In short, the empirical data run exactly contrary to the supposedly "scientific" consensus of the psychotherapeutic profession.26
Finally, as Glynn says, "modern psychology at the close of the twentieth century seems to be reacquainting itself with religion,"27 and "a purely secular view of human mental life has been shown to fail not just at the theoretical, but also at the practical, level."28
In other words, psychology also has routed atheism.

Hi you poor thing The kinds of coincidences and mystical experiences you have been having sound like some type of mental illness such as schizophrenia. Which it sounds like you have been diagnosed with and are being treated for. I would go back to your doctor and tell them what you have been experiencing.

Good luck Hun

After reading your first post I can tell you that you had experienced an awakening; you were visted by extra-terrestrials. Whether this happened physically or psychically, it is hard to say. Whether they are from another world or another plane of existence is hard to say. But what you experienced is not as uncommon as you might think! You have been blessed with stronger consciousness! I know it may be frightening or difficult for you right now, but try to relax and embrace the changes. Explore into them, to the depth and speed which feels natural. Trust in your senses.