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AstRalZoMbie
take a look at this theory and let me know if you think that this is a credible solution for our expansive universe.

Now we all know that every single galaxy has a massive black hole at its center with a mass about 1% of the entire galaxy. This black hole is contiuasly sucking down the rest of the galaxy.Where does it all go? many astrophysicists believe that a black hole is a "stargate" the opening of a wormhole to somewhere else, According to theory a womhole is not only a tunnel through space, but also time itself. stuff entering a black hole of 10 solar masses might comr out in a "white hole" say 100 light yrs away ,thus also 100 light yrs in the past. What if all th quasars are the other ends of black holes at the center of all the galaxys? cycling through time and space in a neverending series of cosmic loops? Imagine if you stepped into a time machine and went bach to yesterday...then there would be two of you.and every other trip to the past where u already existed would add another...could all galaxies be part of a single vast innfinite series of loopings through time and space? Like a spring adding one more with each cycle,therefore continuasly expending the past and pushing the present further and further into the future?

lemme know what u think
sumthingnice60
If you get sucked into a black hole and then spit out of a white hole 100 light years away, you would not go into the past. You would go far into the future. Gravity distorts time so time in heavy gravitational fields goes very very slow. When you do come out, a million years could have passed on earth. This alone makes it so that your theory does not work. Going into the past is still theoretical, while we are certain that one can travel into the future (with the earth as the reference frame).
MarkSteven
is space infinite? what does that mean, would it also mean that something very big can be very small? who's to say that a black hole actually goes anywhere? wouldn't it just keep getting smaller and smaller? maybe that's why they are so strong, they just keep going, inward and outward. isn't that what space is all about in the first place. THINK BIG or small... you can always zoom out, you can always zoom in.

heinrich1858
QUOTE (MarkSteven @ Nov 23 2007, 09:44 AM) *
is space infinite? what does that mean, would it also mean that something very big can be very small? who's to say that a black hole actually goes anywhere? wouldn't it just keep getting smaller and smaller? maybe that's why they are so strong, they just keep going, inward and outward. isn't that what space is all about in the first place. THINK BIG or small... you can always zoom out, you can always zoom in.


Kind of like Men in Black where the aliens played with a marble that was our universe. (Is our universe not just an atom of another universe and so on?)
boze
Interesting......


It's just a shame that we could never test that theory in our lifetime, but it's still great to be able to imagine it. When it comes to black holes I am pretty ignorant, but isn't the gravitational pull so strong that light isn't able to escape it? A force like that you would think it would be impossible to survive. Imagine a gravitational pull hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of times greater than the gravity of our earth......our bodies couldn't handle that type of stress.

But hey,the advances in technology are multiplying at incredible speeds. Just compare where we are today to where we were 50 years ago, hell, even 20 years ago. It might not be a long shot years away from now.
sumthingnice60
QUOTE (boze @ Nov 23 2007, 09:23 PM) *
Interesting......


It's just a shame that we could never test that theory in our lifetime, but it's still great to be able to imagine it. When it comes to black holes I am pretty ignorant, but isn't the gravitational pull so strong that light isn't able to escape it? A force like that you would think it would be impossible to survive. Imagine a gravitational pull hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of times greater than the gravity of our earth......our bodies couldn't handle that type of stress.

But hey,the advances in technology are multiplying at incredible speeds. Just compare where we are today to where we were 50 years ago, hell, even 20 years ago. It might not be a long shot years away from now.

Ya you are right. Light cannot escape a black hole. I seriously doubt that we will ever be able to go inside of a black hole and live to tell about it. If you did get sucked in, your body would be torn apart. Then, your cells would be torn apart. Also, your atoms will be torn apart. If something is that powerful, I doubt we will ever survive it.
AstRalZoMbie
Thanks for your input I didnt think there was much credibility behind this theory...just a neat Idea I thought Id share
sumthingnice60
You could back up your theory with some math and physics. You might need to change some of the wording but you can prove time travel to the past by using the hypothetical Godel universe model. Of course, you would need to know relativity and quantum mechanics for that. My point is that this theory could have credibility if you give it some. If you have any more theories, go ahead and share them. I would be interested in hearing them.
AstRalZoMbie
QUOTE (sumthingnice60 @ Nov 26 2007, 01:42 AM) *
You could back up your theory with some math and physics. You might need to change some of the wording but you can prove time travel to the past by using the hypothetical Godel universe model. Of course, you would need to know relativity and quantum mechanics for that. My point is that this theory could have credibility if you give it some. If you have any more theories, go ahead and share them. I would be interested in hearing them.


Unfortunately I consider myself a great mind without great education......I would love to learn more on quantum mechanics,but dont have the money for school right now(working on it)....the problem is I constantly think of alternetive theorys without knowing how to back them up mathematically...until then Ill just keep up with my possibilitys
sumthingnice60
QUOTE (AstRalZoMbie @ Nov 25 2007, 05:50 PM) *
Unfortunately I consider myself a great mind without great education......I would love to learn more on quantum mechanics,but dont have the money for school right now(working on it)....the problem is I constantly think of alternetive theorys without knowing how to back them up mathematically...until then Ill just keep up with my possibilitys

If you are really interested, you can learn some of the basics yourself. Special relativity only requires high school algebra and general relativity some basic geometrical calculus. if you know those things, I think you are good to go.
AstRalZoMbie
QUOTE (sumthingnice60 @ Nov 26 2007, 01:52 AM) *
If you are really interested, you can learn some of the basics yourself. Special relativity only requires high school algebra and general relativity some basic geometrical calculus. if you know those things, I think you are good to go.


unfortunately I know nothing about calculus...I went to a horrible high school, we didnt even have teachers half the time, so by the time I got to comm. college, I barely placed in high school algebra...i went on to get algebra down pact, but ran out of school funds a few yrs back. Now I have a great interest in Math and would like nothing more to go back to school
Jake13
Thinking about the universe always makes me dizzy. The fact of the universe "ending" makes my puny little mind shiver. It cant.. END. Yet it cant be endless.
Nik Xues
what if astral is right but like instead of a white hole the big bang

and not the past but the future using the time cycle thery from the Tv show LEXX

so that when time and matter seize to exist it starts again

the universe's perfect shape is a 0 with no discernable start or finish creating infinity [pi is infinite and so are circles]

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