Hmm well i get that too, but i completely failed that synth test. I was focusing on the outer shape of the numbers and never noticed the triangle. And i called the soft shape "Bouba" and the sharp for "Kiki", but to me that just seemed like a trick question and not really anything to do with syntheseasdaskdajswhatever.

Buuut!! I was talking about a condition where the person (AFAIK unlike color blindness) could still differentiate every hue, but the whole sperctum had shifted a bit so that every color the person would see is different from what people normally see. I don't think that you could then figure out his condition because the different spectrums wouldn't coincide at any point. A rainbow would still look like a rainbow to him, the colors would just be in different places. In his eyes the spectrum could fade out from violet in the infra end and blue in the ultra end, for example. Except he'd of course still call the wavelengths outside the visible range ultraviolet and infrared, like us.

Even more fascinating, to me, was the finding through optics that the image represented on the retina of the Human eye is reversed. Yes, I mean upside down. The image you process in your mind is converted, somewhere, somehow, to a correct right-side up view. It sounds odd. But, why is this?

The glare introduced from that big yellow orb above, however, is greatly reduced via this action. Where, shadows define more than light. As anyone knows, you tend to see more by shape, than data flow.

Weird, but if you look into the physicalities involved, they are nearly as strange as to what else may be going on. Not to mention, in a sensical way, they way some intentional shift their 'focus', so as to see right through perceptions. As, they are unpleasing to the beholder. Mind-sight is a fascinating field, indeed.

That is a very confusing idea and it is almost right. Take a glass orb and fill it with water and look through it or look through a large clear glass marble. Everything is upside down and backwards. That is just the eye itself. In other words, that is what each eye sees. That is the first. You also have the rods and cones. The rods are for daytime and the cones are for nighttime vision. It is just so complicated.
Then the optic nerves cross (the optic chiasm) to give you the full picture that you see. If you have damage to any rod or cone, that part of the picture is not there. That is why you don't see certain things.
After the optic nerves cross, the whole picture that you see is in both nerves. If you have damage to either eye, the rods or cones, or the eye itself, that is what you see. Cover either eye and that is the full picture you see. But, it is much more complicated than that.
Where do the optic nerves end? They end in the back of the brain.
Ever heard of iridology? I will explain.
The iris of the eye is a 3-D image of the organs of the body. The pupil is the life force and it is surrounded by the intestines. That is where it gets so complicated. You can google that and see what is where in the eye. Iridology is not recognized as a valid study of the iris because the eye may just respond to the impulse from the spirit.
My own body does have signs in the iris of what is not right and I have studied other people and have suprised them by knowing problems they have had. Notice I said 'they have had,' not what they have. Wikipedia has that a British iridology study was done with people who 'did have' gallstones and they could not tell by looking at the iris that they had hat problem. DUH! Gallstones are not a poblem until they form a block of the passages of the liver and galbladder. You naturally have stones in the liver and gallbladder.
That is off the subject, but the body itself does not control the vision, the brain does; the whole brain.
After the nerves cross, they travel through the brain past the ear . . . never mind.
The keys are probably in the blind spot when they look for 'em the first time. And since they can't see 'em the first time, they get mad and throw something and stomp their feet. Then they look and look somewhere else and they can't find them. Days later they go back and the keys are right where they put 'em.

Yea, I'm just about to convince myself it isn't really possible to see the dancer spinning anti-clockwise.

Even more frustrating that it says "most of us would see the dancer turning anti-clockwise" ...

I don't see how it's possible to see the dancer spinning any other direction then to the right.

In order for me to see the dancer spin counter clockwise, I had to shut my eyes imagine it was spinning that direction for a few seconds and then it was....but then I couldn't get it to spin around clockwise again. lol It's as if, once I saw it counter clockwise, I couldn't fool my brain again.

I believe it . If something is too much for us to endure our mind censors how we see it. Have you ever seen From dusk to dawn? There is one scene were George Clooney walks in to a room were his brother just gutted a women. And that is how it shows the scene.... in pieces. That was just an example. I think that is what it must be like.

Sorry, havn't read much of the past 3 pages, i just wanted to say that the Dancer trick becomes so easy if you close your eyes and imagine, or in a way, will the dancer, to be turning in the opposite direction.

You see her turning counter-clockwise, close your eyes and imagine her turning clockwise.... clockwise.... clockwise.... I can feel something like a pressure in my brain as it seems to mildly reconfigure its perception to what I believe. This is fascinating!

I think it's more a demonstration of how stupid our eyes are and how excellent our brains are.
Still it'd be handy to have big dark eyes like those humanoids. I'll bet they can see from here to Pluto

The giraffe thing is SO FAKE. FAKE. FAKE. FAKE. FAKE. FAKE.

The first frame is 12 seconds... long enough to fool us. What a pathetic try for attention.

Its really fascinating.

I downloaded the GIF's and put two on the same page, and got the two dancers to turn different directions.

I find if I start reading something and turn back to the dancer that it'll begin to turn counter-clockwise, and when I look at a picture or the TV and then back to the dancer it goes clockwise. The brain is a crazy thing

Uuuuurrrrghhhnnnnnn my eyes hurt. I immediately saw her rotating clockwise and then thought it was a trick, like it suddenly spins the other way for a bit but no...then I started trying to switch direction every few rotations and jeeeeze...I have a brain ache.

The spinning dancer is also supposed to tell you with side of the brain you use more, or "think" with.

Subjective and objective reality, simple as that. Humans - indeed, no creature with a brain - cannot ever know objective reality because only direct sensory information is perfectly real. From the moment it hits the attention gate and any processing, it is ruined by our perceptions and the filters that stop us from being aware of the billions and billions of bits of information our brain actually receives compared to the few hundred we -are- aware of.

I made a topic relating this to "ghosts" (also applicable to other "paranormal" sightings) a while back:

"My friend recently referred me to the move What the Bleep Do We Know. Now, I didn't watch the whole thing, feeling it too wishy-washy, but I did gain one interesting thought from it fueled by recent lectures in psychology.

Everything we experience and how we perceive it is controlled by an attention gate and what we are primed to see. It is possible for this fact to either support or debunk the existence of ghosts.

The general consensus with most of us skeptics is that these facts debunk the existence of ghosts - we see them because our brain creates something from nothing, or amasses shapes and edges into something that isn't what we perceive it to be. Take people who see something happen, something that they couldn't quite see, for example an animal runs across their path in the dark, but all they initially see is a blur. Their brain will try to group that blur into a comprehendable shape, and later people will add details that weren't in the initial encounters. As time goes on, memory is just a biased record of actual events, no matter how objective you think it is. All memories are are the brain's recorded interpretations of events, not evidence.

On the other hand, it could mean that we don't see ghosts because we don't expect them and don't believe them to exist, much as the Native Americans were said to be unable to see Columbus' ships on the horizon - they simply had no concept of them and their brain couldn't register them. With this theory, ghosts could be anywhere and sightings could be attributed to altered perceptions and people's subconscious being open to the phenomena. There are people who can't see moving objects - literally. If you walk across the room, they will not be able to see you, and you will pretty much pop into existence in their eyes when you stop. Is it possible that we don't see ghosts because of this?"

Edit: Has anyone brought up akinetopsia yet? It's a great example. Some cases are so severe that, to the afflicted, people literally pop out of nowhere when they stop walking.

Edit edit: I can make the dancer go both directions pretty easily, but I initially saw her going clockwise. Trippy!