I was messing around with a talking board ( bad idea I know ) because I was curious and had never had a truly ghostly encounter. well nothing much happened really I spoke to a girl who wouldn't tell me her name all she kept saying was I'll see you soon. I just brushed it off and since it was nearly 3am and I had to be awake at 6 for work I went to bed. I was just starting to drift off about 3:30 or so when I got that distinct feeling you get when you know someone is watching you. I opened my eyes and I saw a woman, or what was once a woman. I was so scared all I could do is shiver, as if she had placed a spell on me to keep me from moving or speaking. I remember every detail of her face. She had these amazingly lucid green eyes, like pure emeralds. and although I was more then terrified of her, her face was serene and beautiful. She had a tiny birthmark under her eye and a few more scattered close to her chin and hairline. she was dressed in a black hooded robe, like wiccan garb. her hair was a dark red almost black but it seemed like the closer to her head the more red it got. I mustered enough courage to ask who she was. She replied that she had many names but as or right now she could be called Kimberly. I asked her how she died and she said that she hadn't which led me to believe I was speaking with someone in a coma or something, so I asked her. This is were things really start to become strange. She told me that she will never die but she could prove that she wasn't dead. I had eaten in my room in front of my computer that night which I had many other nights before but this night i hadn't put my dishes away and "Kimberly" grabbed the knife and cut her right forearm diagonally. She started bleeding and I got really scared she told me not to worry as he wound healed right before my eyes. If I hadn't been dabbling with the occult for a few years now i would have had a panic attack by then but I know better and the worst thing you can do in a situation like that is show fear because they feed off of it. I calmed myself and asked her what she wanted. "Kimberly" said she was there because i needed her and called upon her. in that same second a screech owl flew in my closed window and landed on her shoulder. It wasn't until that moment that I realized exactly who I was dealing with. My husband and I are both practitioners of the craft and he and I both do a lot of spell work for good causes only. my husband and I had been trying unsuccessfully to have a child for 3 years now and it has been a long a frustrating road through doctors, fertility clinics and daily hormone shots. The doctors told us that it was very unlikely that I could ever conceive but we tried everything we could anyway. when all else failed I turned to magick. I made the mistake of leaving the outcome of my spell work into the hands of any god or goddess that could help me conceive. I imediatly realized that there is only one goddess who is associated with that animal. I knew I was dealing with lilith. She spoke to me in my mind because I heard her and her lips were not moving. she said she was there to give me what I asked for. she changed my room somehow and I could see myself and my husband standing over a cradle and my room had become a boy's nursery. I moved towards the cradle to see the baby but the baby wasn't human. it had human features but i knew in my heart that child was pure evil and I wanted nothing to do with it.he had those same eyes that "Kimberly" had. I screamed at her saying I knew she was lilith (which she never confirmed) and to go away because I didn't want her help. she seemed to get extremly angry and let out a high pitched scream. she raised her right hand and a glowing green pentagram manifested on her hand before my eyes. Again I was frozen but this time I knew it was her that was keeping me this way. She spoke in tounges before I became "frozen". she placed the hand with the pentagram on my stomach and my midriff began glowing with that same brilliant green and she just vanished into thin air like she had never been there at all. I brushed it off as a really lifelike dream because there was no other explaination for it and I went back to bed. my husband somehow slept through the whole ordeal which made me think even more that this was meerly a dream. the next morning I woke up and a saw blood on the floor in the spot where "Kimberly" had cut herself. then I knew i wasn't dreaming. my husband saw the blood himself and couldn't give me an explanation for it. As if the previous wasn't bizzare enough 2 weeks later I was LATE??? I took a pregnancy test and as you've already guessed I'm pregnant but something that should have brought me so much joy after trying for so long was covered by this dark cloud. that baby I saw, that evil baby, am I carrying something evil inside me? I thought about having an abortion but I couldn't live with not knowing wheather or not it would have been a normal baby. but in my heart, that mother's instinct tells me that something is terribly wrong. does anyone have any advice on how to protect my baby from becoming something evil. I know that whoever this woman was she is responsible for my pregnancy. I have also been seeing ravens in 3's which is Lilith's signature, leading me to belive that it was her who appeared in my room that night not "Kimberly" May 15th 2007 was the day she appeared and my due date is January 29th by c-section. the dates match up check yourself. please I need advice before that date, unorthodoxed methods are welcomed. I've looked online for various ways to rid myself of lilith and so far everyone I have talked to from paranormal specialists to catholic priests have all told me in not so many words that I'm simply ****ed. please help.

wrong section/forum. your posting should be in either ghosts n paranormal or the sightings forum!

In no way am I trying to be mean but please,
I am worried for your baby..........please go talk to a psychiatric doctor.

You mentioned that unorthodoxed methods are welcomed, go to a psychiatrist and tell him word for word what you have written above. He WILL help you.

I couldn't agree more . please see your doctor the first opportunity you get . before i found out i was pregnant i had some off visions about my future child i think mine was due to hormones . i don't know if yours is the same but i will say that a week later i was confirmed pregnant and he came out happy healthy and gorgeous hes three now .

good luck and please seek help from your doctor

Sorry to hear that..

After God created Adam, who was alone, He said, 'It is not good for man to be alone.' He then created a woman for Adam, from the earth, as He had created Adam himself, and called her Lilith. Adam and Lilith immediately began to fight. She said, 'I will not lie below,' and he said, 'I will not lie beneath you, but only on top. For you are fit only to be in the bottom position, while I am to be the superior one.' Lilith responded, 'We are equal to each other inasmuch as we were both created from the earth.' But they would not listen to one another. When Lilith saw this, she pronounced the Ineffable Name and flew away into the air.

Adam stood in prayer before his Creator: 'Sovereign of the universe!' he said, 'the woman you gave me has run away.' At once, the Holy One, blessed be He, sent these three angels Senoy, Sansenoy, and Semangelof, to bring her back.

Said the Holy One to Adam, 'If she agrees to come back, what is made is good. If not, she must permit one hundred of her children to die every day.' The angels left God and pursued Lilith, whom they overtook in the midst of the sea, in the mighty waters wherein the Egyptians were destined to drown. They told her God's word, but she did not wish to return. The angels said, 'We shall drown you in the sea.’

'Leave me!' she said. 'I was created only to cause sickness to infants. If the infant is male, I have dominion over him for eight days after his birth, and if female, for twenty days.’

When the angels heard Lilith's words, they insisted she go back. But she swore to them by the name of the living and eternal God: 'Whenever I see you or your names or your forms in an amulet, I will have no power over that infant.' She also agreed to have one hundred of her children die every day. Accordingly, every day one hundred demons perish, and for the same reason, we write the angels' names on the amulets of young children. When Lilith sees their names, she remembers her oath, and the child recovers.

@harmonie

Your child will be spared. Lilith will not bother you anymore.

-Snip- I have had my own experiences in the epic battle between heaven and hell and your account was extreemly detailed for beings that prefer to be unidentifiable...they are more frightening that way. and to come from an evil source that actually delights in making things that are bad for us seem fun and enjoyable in order to separate us from God. Lucifer was the angel of light and music not death and destruction whose fall from grace was comparing himself to the almighty. Which would probably mean what you are experiencing is an acute case of pride in assuming that you would be important enough to impregnate with some spawn of satan and the insubordinate one(lilith). pride is a deadly sin btw. in any case you were brought up catholic huh? You need to see a priest and confess your dabbling in the occult, cease it immidiately, reaffirm your commitment to God.

STF up, 'ravergirl'. This woman is obviously having some kind of episode, and she doesn't need any more biblical crap.

Harmonie: best of luck, girl. Life is wonderful, and I'm delighted you're finally pregnant. Your family will be specially happy, Im sure. Its ok to freak out once in a while, buts its important you seek help. And HELP IS OUT THERE. Go to a professional, you dont need this stuff getting in the way of your enjoying your child.

Pawna

ps, I would strongly recommend that a moderator delete the last couple of posts. Harmonie, if she comes back, does not need to read that rubbish.

shocking . This lady is asking for help can't you at least see that .

BTW i wonder if having no compassion is a sin ?


Harmonie . i hope you are well. good luck and congraulations on your pregnancy . Enjoy it, its the best thing in the world hun . Dont let aything or anyone spoil that for you . i truly wish you the best . seek help and be well.

Hmmm another drive by poster.

If she were that desperate for answers, she would have least come back to see what people said...

And she's 7 months pregnant. She'll have had scans confirming she's not carrying some deformed satan baby, no?...

What a crock if cr*p!

Why do people post dreams and look for explanations, I read this sort of thing in here every day, it gets real old real quick!

Why do people bother posting such rubbish...

Exactly we get these posters that come post once and never come back. Bad fiction.

I do agree sassags and eric i hate fly bys too . but wether they come back or not doesnt mean someone can be nasty in ther response which i felt raver was .

i like to take a cautious approach to these posters whom i think need l help . just in case ya know . maybe im a sucker but oh well . i've been called worst

You are still nice. Stay here a couple years and then you will become cynical like me.

Anyway, the residing verdict is, get some help from a local psychiatrist.

Best of luck to you harmonie! Take care.


Regards,
Tom

LOL eric .

i have some cynical moments already . I'm getting there

lol Yeah after seeing enough of this stuff, responses can tend to seem tainted with a bit of pessimism.

Help yourself harmonie, you seem to be caught up in belief delusion's that are manifesting. There is no good or evil, just individual's. If your "craft" as you call it, is effecting your child through your own belief with the manifestation's that you wrote of, then as you also wrote, it is already effecting your judgement towards your own child through the distortment of your belief, just like religion does, of whatever stripe or description.

The only way to get out of it, is to choose to believe in yourself, not creatures described through religious delusion's. Because you are carrying a child, don't you think it would be for the child's benefit if you kept it out of the little one's life? That is my only concern after reading your post. Have a nice life.

as you can see from the comments above, this is exactly why you should post in the right section, but nevermind we've all done it before, just send a message to SaRuMaN and ask him to please move this topic to the ghosts, hauntings and the paranormal section.

Not necessarily, I would have posted the same answer wherever it was posted.

I don't usually look to see in which section a topic is posted, I just browse latest postings and go with the flow.

Even if she doesn't come back, and even if it was fiction, its possible that someone else may believe it/ have experienced something similar, and may take to heart some of the rubbish above.

I don't believe that demons/ghosts/aliens/smurfs/Jesus are real. But maybe Harmonie does. And if she thinks she has been visited, its best she gets checked out.

I do, after all, believe in hallucinations. I've even had one, talking with my sister, who died when we were children. It was a spontaneous experience, I was talking to her (not that I believe she lives on anywhere like Heaven or Hell, but, you know, sometimes its easier to think things out when you are saying them out loud, and its nice to remember sometimes) and I actually heard a vocalised response to a question!

The first thing I did? Straight to my GP, who sent me off to a mental health centre. They were totally unfazed, no doubt they hear a lot worse on a daily basis. What I found particularly comforting was the fact that they did not say'Well, that sounds like a pleasant experience, no problem so, keep chatting, tell your sis to say hi to my mother for me.' Instead it was 'Well, thats a psychotic episode, but you're mostly alright. Here's a prescription, should sort you out, come back in three weeks, ring us immediately if you need to.'

BTW, I reckon it was my long-term smoking (you know what I mean) that was the root cause. Ive stopped now, but Im not up on a high horse here. Its fantastic (much, much better than alcohol) but moderation is the key.

Now excuse me while I get off this saddle...

Pawna

sorry normally i dont walk into a bar (topic) and find this many replys saying they dont believe the op and aaying she has mental issues, the question is can some people at least take her seirously and give her the benefit of the doubt. i dont think i would come back here if i came here tpyed a topic asking for advice and then got told i need a psychiatrist, it can be quite offending, there would be no point to come back.

The manifestation's are real, as real as you talking with, or touching someone here. Manifested.

Belief delusion's are what have manifested from belief, and where they have enslaved themselves to. There are different layer's of these, or illusion's within the main shared reality of the percieved world{worlds within world's}. The delusion's themselves come from other percieved reality's, or what i call scenario patch's,where reality will follow the probability's of your belief's, and manifest the creatures, and ability's constrained within the belief delusion, which has been made flesh, so to speak.

More and more of these thing's are going to be happening, the closer we get to the end. It is what nostrodamous actually meant, when he wrote of the dead coming to life. Many are already acting out the role's of the scenario personality's that are reflected from those other percieved reality's. Who they are in them.

It all tie's in with the three calender's.

She never came back to look at replys. You can look on her last visit. She posted and never came back. Thats why I call BS.

LOL, yet again, we see it the same.

Oh no! Wait! It's another....drive by......... vroooooooooooom!!!

That had to be the weirdest thing I've ever read online. I am speechless for the first time ever..JN

JN if you were as 'concerned' as she was and reached out for answers, wouldn't you at least bother to look back in and see what people had to say.

Most first posts in here are complete and utter crap!

If they don't come back, in essence, I feel most people are just posting to take the piss.

How many first posts have you read about some weird experience, and second ones about some even weirder experience.

Examples: two weeks ago, new user, first five posts claimed he saw ghosts, a cryptoid, an alien, a ufo and had some kind of special powers.

I watch the poster as much as I watch the post.

EDIT and hey... you're NEVER speechless! I don't believe ya! LOL ;P

LOL I do check out the poster with every post. Hers was very disturbing, but so detailed, I was fascinated and terrified at the same time. Part of my mind would not accept the words she typed and the other part thought OMG this cant happen, or can it? I am just hoping it was a dream that she shared or perhaps she was in need of psychological help OR it was just BS..Seeming as though she has a husband, I would think if all this were true he would help her get thru whatever the heck was going on, or someone in real life who cared about her. IF that were me writing, I would have hung on every word posted back to me in hopes of being guided in the right direction, but she bailed. Guess I wasnt speechless after all LOL...JN

Harmonie, it's just a normal lucid experience that people Always take the wrong way. The being was beautiful, wise, serene, powerful etc, and did nothing wrong, but you took it all the wrong way and created this big fearful situation for yourself. You've waited so long to be a mother and now you're afraid that things will go wrong because of your dabbling with magic in the past. Forget it. Everything will be fine and you'll be a wonderful mother.

but you can guarantee that she didnt, iv checked quite a few of my topics when i come on the computer without signing in, which makes the last seen data inaccurate.

Keep believing that. We get her same MO all the time.

It is pretty strange that people sometimes do this kind of "drive by posting" and then never seem to come back.

In this case, by guess is mental illness. I once had a job once in which I was in contact with a lot of schizophrenics, (I was a volunteer working with homeless people) and this story really has the flavor of that --- or, it's an attempt to test market some really bad fiction.

But I suppose it is easy for anyone to post once, then come back under a different name, perhaps even using a different computer and see what the reaction is, and that way they can stay completely anonynous.

You just never know. At any rate, I hope there's not a real baby out there in some trouble. It makes one uneasy. If Hamonie is reading this, I would say please see a doctor.

I agree, and btw nice to see you (((Iron))) JN

I agree iron i think you summed up my feelings exactly . i hope they are both fine if she coems back or not .