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Joe013
QUOTE (avs76 @ Dec 1 2007, 04:42 PM) *
I have a belief, and shoot it down it you will. My idea is that the different races of Earth are each different aliens who at some point landed here, either accidently or on purpose, and began to reproduce and populate the planet. Asians, Africans, Caucasians, Polynesians, etc are each descended from different alien species. How are they able to interbreed? I guess our DNA is just that close. Is that as the result of Intelligent Design, some God? Was there originally some common point of origin of all alien species? How the heck would I know?! Hey, it's just an idea, and you can probably come up with 100 reasons why it ain't so, but I think it's something to go with.

I know the commonly accepted theory is that Homo Erectus originated in Africa and from this their descendents spread all over Earth and the various cultures sprung up and flourished. How come Northern Europeans look so different to people from Africa then? Oh, because of the snow? Then how come Inuit peoples look similar the Indiginous peoples of the Americas? When are they going to start to become fair skinned, and have blue eyes?

And before you ask, no I don't have any proof. I am not saying that this idea is 100% right and everyone should adhere to it. I am saying it is my idea, and people should at least consider it before dismissing it totally. Ok, thanks for listening. Time to go take my medication...

EDIT: spelling



QUOTE (Caana @ Dec 2 2007, 01:16 PM) *
What if your bodyless spirit was the human who is real, that was subjected to the illusion called reality, and look's upon us as the empty thing's we are?



its been proven through dna testing that humans have little to no difference in genetics. different races are still the same species. there is no "different species" of man. we are all homo sapien, we are all descended from the same original being. in fact, fruit flies differ more fly to fly than humans do human to human. did you know that?

and as far as different looking humans go, its called evolution.


theory disproven.
crystal sage
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<a href="http://womens-health.health-cares.net/eryt...sis-fetalis.php" target="_blank">http://womens-health.health-cares.net/eryt...sis-fetalis.php</a>

If we were seeded.. got our DNA from stars... cool.gif Pnspermia... just like all the other planets did...(evidence of panspermia all over the universe...) just not on earth... of course they would too share DNA

Note samples from Mars show that their soil is chemically similar to Earth..

We can mine similar metals..etc from Mars..as we do on Earth... they may have different concentrations... wink2.gif different concentrations of Star Dust... Meteors... because they were there at the right time and place... ( opportunity)... but in general.. it is looking like Earth 2!!!

<a href="http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/Nov00/mining.html" target="_blank">http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/Nov00/mining.html</a>

<a href="http://marsproject.com/about.htm" target="_blank">http://marsproject.com/about.htm</a>
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ROOM WITH A VIEW: No, this isn't the Space Shuttle orbiting the Earth. It's an inflatable space habitat that might just be the hotel of the future.

<a href="http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=4158" target="_blank">http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=4158</a>


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A new company, 4Frontiers, plans to mine Mars for building materials and energy sources, and export the planet's mineral wealth to forthcoming space stations on the moon and elsewhere. The company also wants to build the first permanent human settlement on Mars, using strictly Martian materials, as early as 2025.

Wired News has the story.

The idea is to make Mars a center for needs of the solar system economy, said Bruce Mackenzie, co-founder of 4Frontiers and the company's vice president and outreach director.

"Mars happens to be a good place for these crucial minerals," said Mackenzie. "You have them all in one spot."

"Carbon, nitrogen and hydrogen are all scarce on the moon, but readily available on Mars," said Joseph Palaia, 4Frontiers' other co-founder and vice president of operations and research and development. And while oxygen is available in both locations, "it is easier to extract on Mars," he said.



Look thumbup.gif at where we are within 100 years of inventing the aeroplane???? 150 or so with electricity????

We are already there within a decade or two of settling other planets!!!!!

Why is it so hard to believe that we are the result of a long forgotten mining project by some other planet's civilization or a potential stop over... settlement.. holiday resort of other star systems???

It can certainly explain pyramids.. and lots of those magnificent long forgotten ruins.. the legends of gods from the heavens and their control of earth and mankind!!!!
Caana
QUOTE (Joe013 @ Dec 3 2007, 11:25 PM) *
its been proven through dna testing that humans have little to no difference in genetics. different races are still the same species. there is no "different species" of man. we are all homo sapien, we are all descended from the same original being. in fact, fruit flies differ more fly to fly than humans do human to human. did you know that?

and as far as different looking humans go, its called evolution.


theory disproven.


I'm not talking about the monkey's, or manbeast's, of course the result's will say that{already did mellow.gif }. And i was'nt trying to prove a theory or asking for belief, so skepticism disproven, i never agrued the point you made, in fact said it was correct.
Caana
i was talking about humans, not your homosaphien's.
avs76
QUOTE (Joe013 @ Dec 4 2007, 10:25 AM) *
its been proven through dna testing that humans have little to no difference in genetics. different races are still the same species. there is no "different species" of man. we are all homo sapien, we are all descended from the same original being. in fact, fruit flies differ more fly to fly than humans do human to human. did you know that?

and as far as different looking humans go, its called evolution.


theory disproven.

Thanks for the enlightening post. It seems obvious you have performed more research in this area than I have, so I will defer to your knowledge. I don't understand you comment about humans looking different due to evolution. I originally queried why people living in the same climates look very different. I specifically referred to people of "Nordic" appearance compared with Inuit people. If some humans have evolved differently to others, don't they then, by definition, become a different species? I am sorry if this seems frustrating to you, but some of us are not as learned as others. thumbsup.gif
tipsy_munchkin
QUOTE (avs76 @ Dec 5 2007, 01:45 AM) *
Thanks for the enlightening post. It seems obvious you have performed more research in this area than I have, so I will defer to your knowledge. I don't understand you comment about humans looking different due to evolution. I originally queried why people living in the same climates look very different. I specifically referred to people of "Nordic" appearance compared with Inuit people. If some humans have evolved differently to others, don't they then, by definition, become a different species? I am sorry if this seems frustrating to you, but some of us are not as learned as others. thumbsup.gif


The main point he was making is that we are all at root from a very very small group of people. We are too closely related genetically to have different origins and much of the DNA can be traced back following our history.

For an example to why we are different take skin colour. As people moved to cooler climates there is less strong sunlight. It is essential for us to absorb this to produce (i think it's vit D) anyways we need it to survive. The dark skin was to avoid UV from damaging the little develping babies. In a cooler climate the skin paled to the ideal balance for both vitamin development and reproduction. (though this is off memory apologise if its; not accurate in detail but is the gist.) these differences are incredibly minor though when how much is in common is taken into consideration.

With your comment in relation to us evolving differently qand does that make us different species, no it doesn't. Perhaps it is easier to think of it as adapting to our environment a little. It's the same thing basically but often people think of more dramatic changes within evolution forgetting just how long these took to occur. A whole seperate spcies takes a very long time.

Please any one with better details correct any little flaws. I'm tired and working from memory and far from expert in this field. I hope that helps
MarKy090
QUOTE (zerotheshadow @ Dec 1 2007, 04:03 AM) *
Ok! here's what I have been thinking for the past couple of weeks....is it possible that we, humans, are not from Earth at all, that we might have alien origins, what if we, humans used to live on another planet, a long time ago, and that planet became uninhabitable and we had leave it to find a new one, and what if there is more humans out there that look just like us, maybe searching for us take the nordics for example, they almost look like us, almost, but they are not like us......


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I mean it's possible right? it is said that there might be somekind of dispute between them and the Greys, I mean all this came to my head...after watching Battlestar Galactica, it got me thinking, what if other humans out there are searching for us? ha! the thirteen colony,........so please, anyone answer my question, and it would be really cool if you guys could give me some links, so is it possible that we have alien origins? blink.gif


definitely not possible. these nordics, are they even real? i doubt it. theyre just imagination.
avs76
QUOTE (tipsy_munchkin @ Dec 5 2007, 01:07 PM) *
The main point he was making is that we are all at root from a very very small group of people. We are too closely related genetically to have different origins and much of the DNA can be traced back following our history.

For an example to why we are different take skin colour. As people moved to cooler climates there is less strong sunlight. It is essential for us to absorb this to produce (i think it's vit D) anyways we need it to survive. The dark skin was to avoid UV from damaging the little develping babies. In a cooler climate the skin paled to the ideal balance for both vitamin development and reproduction. (though this is off memory apologise if its; not accurate in detail but is the gist.) these differences are incredibly minor though when how much is in common is taken into consideration.

With your comment in relation to us evolving differently qand does that make us different species, no it doesn't. Perhaps it is easier to think of it as adapting to our environment a little. It's the same thing basically but often people think of more dramatic changes within evolution forgetting just how long these took to occur. A whole seperate spcies takes a very long time.

Please any one with better details correct any little flaws. I'm tired and working from memory and far from expert in this field. I hope that helps

Thanks, tipsy. I understand your point about environmental factors determining natural traits and subtle changes that a group of people go through, e.g lighter skin colour in colder climates. It makes sense. However, it doesn't apply evenly. I still don't understand why it would apply to one group of people, e.g. Nordics, and not another group of people, e.g. Inuits. Also, wouldn't people in colder climates grow more body hair to insulate the body against the cold. I know northern Europeans, for example, usually tend to have more body hair than Polynesian people, but why are northern Asians, such as Japanese, not more hairy? Why do mediterranean people tend to be very hairy, despite the warm climate? I am not saying this for argument's sake, it just doesn't stack up.
Harte
QUOTE (avs76 @ Dec 4 2007, 09:22 PM) *
Thanks, tipsy. I understand your point about environmental factors determining natural traits and subtle changes that a group of people go through, e.g lighter skin colour in colder climates. It makes sense. However, it doesn't apply evenly. I still don't understand why it would apply to one group of people, e.g. Nordics, and not another group of people, e.g. Inuits. Also, wouldn't people in colder climates grow more body hair to insulate the body against the cold. I know northern Europeans, for example, usually tend to have more body hair than Polynesian people, but why are northern Asians, such as Japanese, not more hairy? Why do mediterranean people tend to be very hairy, despite the warm climate? I am not saying this for argument's sake, it just doesn't stack up.

There are different genetic variations that are adaptations to the same external stimuli.

Inuit people have more body fat than Europeans that live in the far north.

You also have to consider the very real fact that some peoples have lived in these environments for thousands of generations while other peoples have only lived there for hundreds of generations.

This does not mean that the "Nordics" (whatever that is) will eventually come to resemble the Inuit. Remember, there are many different types of adaptations that can be made by a gene pool in response to exactly the same environmental stimuli.

Also, isolation plays a huge part in cementing an adaptation into a particular gene pool. There is no doubt whatsoever that the Inuit and others have been isolated to a far greater extent than northern Europeans. The constant influx of genetic material from "other" groups causes adaptations to be less likely to be fixed within a particular gene pool.

Harte
avs76
QUOTE (Harte @ Dec 6 2007, 04:35 AM) *
There are different genetic variations that are adaptations to the same external stimuli.

Inuit people have more body fat than Europeans that live in the far north.

You also have to consider the very real fact that some peoples have lived in these environments for thousands of generations while other peoples have only lived there for hundreds of generations.

This does not mean that the "Nordics" (whatever that is) will eventually come to resemble the Inuit. Remember, there are many different types of adaptations that can be made by a gene pool in response to exactly the same environmental stimuli.

Also, isolation plays a huge part in cementing an adaptation into a particular gene pool. There is no doubt whatsoever that the Inuit and others have been isolated to a far greater extent than northern Europeans. The constant influx of genetic material from "other" groups causes adaptations to be less likely to be fixed within a particular gene pool.

Harte

Nordic means "northerly" or "northern" and usually refers to a region of Northern Europe called the Nordic countries.
kerkinana walsky
QUOTE (avs76 @ Dec 5 2007, 06:42 PM) *
Nordic means "northerly" or "northern" and usually refers to a region of Northern Europe called the Nordic countries.

thats right that is what nordic means

but Nordics are a group of aliens
http://aliens.monstrous.com/nordics.htm
best you don't confuse the two in future eh
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avs76
QUOTE (kerkinana walsky @ Dec 6 2007, 06:02 AM) *
thats right that is what nordic means

but Nordics are a group of aliens
http://aliens.monstrous.com/nordics.htm
best you don't confuse the two in future eh
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Hmmm...now I am really confused. I think I need to have a lie down. hmm.gif
avs76
Ok...from what I have read, determining racial differences based on appearances seems to be a dead form of anthropology. Obviously I need to do a lot more research before I open my big trap again. I apologise to anybody who was offended by the content and ignorance of my posts on this thread. blush.gif
tipsy_munchkin
QUOTE (avs76 @ Dec 5 2007, 08:24 PM) *
Ok...from what I have read, determining racial differences based on appearances seems to be a dead form of anthropology. Obviously I need to do a lot more research before I open my big trap again. I apologise to anybody who was offended by the content and ignorance of my posts on this thread. blush.gif

i dont think anyone would be offended, you asked questions and listened to answers how could anyone be offended by that grin2.gif i hope you have fun digging round and finding out more.
Ghø§t
QUOTE (zerotheshadow @ Nov 30 2007, 11:03 PM) *
Ok! here's what I have been thinking for the past couple of weeks....is it possible that we, humans, are not from Earth at all, that we might have alien origins, what if we, humans used to live on another planet, a long time ago, and that planet became uninhabitable and we had leave it to find a new one, and what if there is more humans out there that look just like us, maybe searching for us take the nordics for example, they almost look like us, almost, but they are not like us......


Visit My Website

I mean it's possible right? it is said that there might be somekind of dispute between them and the Greys, I mean all this came to my head...after watching Battlestar Galactica, it got me thinking, what if other humans out there are searching for us? ha! the thirteen colony,........so please, anyone answer my question, and it would be really cool if you guys could give me some links, so is it possible that we have alien origins? blink.gif

I don't think cavemen had the technology to complete immigrant from one planet and emigrate to another, such as Earth. It just isn't possible. If it was, by now we would have technology too advance to even fathom.
tipsy_munchkin
QUOTE (Ghø§t @ Dec 5 2007, 08:33 PM) *
I don't think cavemen had the technology to complete immigrant from one planet and emigrate to another, such as Earth. It just isn't possible. If it was, by now we would have technology too advance to even fathom.


lol space cavemen that remided me of that eposide where the jetsons go back in time and meet the flintstones
Harte
QUOTE (avs76 @ Dec 5 2007, 02:24 PM) *
Ok...from what I have read, determining racial differences based on appearances seems to be a dead form of anthropology. Obviously I need to do a lot more research before I open my big trap again. I apologise to anybody who was offended by the content and ignorance of my posts on this thread. blush.gif

QUOTE (tipsy_munchkin @ Dec 5 2007, 02:29 PM) *
i dont think anyone would be offended, you asked questions and listened to answers how could anyone be offended by that grin2.gif i hope you have fun digging round and finding out more.

Ibid
QUOTE (tipsy_munchkin @ Dec 5 2007, 02:36 PM) *
lol space cavemen that remided me of that eposide where the jetsons go back in time and meet the flintstones

Best Jetsons episode ever.

There were, however, several episodes of the Flintstones that were better.

The Flintstones went downhill when they started including an ancient astronaut (The Great Gazoo) in their plot lines.

Probably where EVD got his idea.

Harte
ravergirl
i have a few issues

Nordic-you can't take a term describing the race of an earth-people and use it as a term for a race of alien people if their physical characteristics are the same. How am i supposed to know which is which, sniff armpits searching for sweat glands?????

You can't call someone an idiot for posting something not factual and then laugh and ridicule them at them for not knowing YOUR not factual opinion. you guys would be great fiction/sci fi writers. I'm not saying aliens don't exist.....i think there is a strong possibility that they do, and a strong inkling they had something to do with shaping our planet......BUT THEY DID NOT POP OUT OF SOME TV SHOW OR BOOK INTO REALITY AND THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC OR ACTUAL BASIS TO START NAMING THEIR RACES BECAUSE THERE IS NO DIFFINTIVE PROOF THEY WERE EVER HERE.
crystal sage
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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/hercolob.../code_red10.htm
In 2004 the President of the United States, whose country is embroiled in a war, is expected to announce a new effort to reach Mars with a manned expedition. Photos from previous missions to Mars are the subjects of such controversy that entire websites and books have been written about them. The vast majority of photos that have been taken however still remain under lock and key by NASA, JPL, and numerous private contractors who are immune from Freedom of Information Act lawsuits. In turning back again though to our common myths and legends we learn that Mars was once a sister to Earth and like earth was a living planet.

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The Old Testament acknowledges the presence of many Anunnaki "gods" on Earth in early times. The Genesis story is about the spread of humankind through generations following Adam and Eve and the story of the "divine's" disenchantment with humankind that preceded the deluge. In the Sumerian texts there was mention of the people of the Shem (meaning spaceship). The Anunnaki were the people of the Shem, and they came down to Earth and copulated with primitive earthlings. This is recorded in the Genesis story.



The Anunnaki Elite also started a new, highly advanced culture in Babylon. As always, they destroy cultures and murder the populations whenever they get out of hand, then they re-start elsewhere. Today the Anunnaki Remnants are planning to re-establish the "majesty" of bygone days when the Anunnaki Elite had a complete tyranny over the Earth. They plan to re-start the world again. The Anunnaki Remnants, with the help of humans as well as the incarnated Anunnaki in human bodies, have built massive underground bunkers and. railway lines that are a part of their structure for allowing them and their cadre of attendants to survive the catastrophes that they believe the fugitive Anunnaki Elite are planning for the Earth.



They cannot leave the planet in spacecrafts because they were left with limited resources after the Anunnaki Elite escaped with all of the technologically advanced spacecrafts. The Anunnaki Remnants think that they can select their own chosen ones (like their masters did) and take refuge with them in underground bunkers during the period of catastrophes. They plan to take a whole garrison of "slaves" underground.
crystal sage


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http://www.beforeus.com/news70.html


“The more I conducted my own studies, including a period of time at NASA-AIMS Research Center, the more it became apparent there were multiple difficulties with the chemical evolution account.

“And further experimental work showed that amino acids do not have the ability to order themselves into any biologically meaningful sequences.

“The more I thought about the alternative that was being presented in the criticism, and the enormous problem that all of us who had worked on this field had neglected to address, the problem of the origin of genetic information itself, then I really had to re-assess my whole position regarding origins.” (Unlocking the Mysteries of Life)

What he now had to address was this: What was the source of the biological information in DNA?

“If one could get at the origin of the messages, the encoded messages within the living machinery, then you would really be onto something far more intellectually satisfying than this chemical evolution theory.” (Ibid.)

The astonishing fact is that inside every microscopic-sized cell, machines work together to accomplish specific jobs and are shepherded by other specially shaped machines to precise locations where they are needed.

Learning this, Kenyon exclaimed, “This is absolutely mind-boggling, to perceive at this scale of size, such a finely tuned apparatus, a device, that bears the marks of intelligent design and manufacture!”

OBSERVABLE EVIDENCE OF A MASTER DESIGNER

This is observable evidence of thoughtful, programmed designing by some Superior Mind. Evidence of intelligently organized patterns.

MUSIC IN GENES

Something else. Did you know this? It was recently discovered that DNA is linked to music!
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