Ok! here's what I have been thinking for the past couple of weeks....is it possible that we, humans, are not from Earth at all, that we might have alien origins, what if we, humans used to live on another planet, a long time ago, and that planet became uninhabitable and we had leave it to find a new one, and what if there is more humans out there that look just like us, maybe searching for us take the nordics for example, they almost look like us, almost, but they are not like us......


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I mean it's possible right? it is said that there might be somekind of dispute between them and the Greys, I mean all this came to my head...after watching Battlestar Galactica, it got me thinking, what if other humans out there are searching for us? ha! the thirteen colony,........so please, anyone answer my question, and it would be really cool if you guys could give me some links, so is it possible that we have alien origins?

As much as I approve your avatar, there is a thread (at least, and some in the ET forum, too) on this already.

--Jaylemurph

i went to your websight,,,,,and i took a look around and now i just want to blw something up....how can you post such bull as fact..you right this random movie like discriptions about so called aliens'.you have a bunch of diffrent race of aliens and you lay out a guideline to each alien like its fact,,,SHOW ME WHERE BESIDES YOU FKING IMGINATION DID THESE COLORFUL BIOS COME FROM,,,,,please fell free to visit and read the other bios its entertaining at least,

example::::::its kind of long but i couldnt really take any thing out because it just gets more and more out there the more you read::::::::::::

The Pleiadians are a collective of extraterrestrials from the star system Pleiades.


Origin

Around 225,000 B.C., the Pleiadians discovered a small sun system with a planet called Earth on one of their scouting missions away from the Pleiades.


The Galactic Federation allowed the Pleiadians to enter into a incarnational cycle with humans on Earth. The places designated for them to do this was Bali, Hawaii, Samoa and India. Civilizations came and went on Earth with many wars, peaceful cycles and natural disasters, between 196,000 B.C. and 10 A.D. The Pleiadians stayed with humans on Earth until 10 A.D. trying to help develop various civilizations such as Lemuria, Maya, Inca and a civilzation at Machu Picchu. They also were trying to guide humans toward a more spiritual path.

At about 10 A.D.; the last Pleiadian leader called Plejas left Earth for good, because Pleiadians finally achieved peace back home in the Pleiades. They felt it was time for humans to evolve on their own. Before leaving Earth, the Pleiadians left a spiritual leader called Jmmanuel, who later was known as Jesus. Jmmanuel was a very evolved soul, whose father was Gabriel of the Pleiades system and Mary who was of Lyran descent.

Earth continued to evolve on its own without direct Pleiadian leadership till our present time. In the very near future, as Earth enters the Photon Band by year 2000, the Pleiadians are going to help bring all humans on Earth into the light.

Habits

The following is a brief description of Pleiadian Culture on the home planet of Erra. About 400,000 people live on Erra, which the Pleiadians feel is the ideal amount for the welfare of their planet. The people of Erra are telepathic and therefore have no need for telephones. There means of travel around the planet is done by a tube system. The Pleiadians are primarily vegeterians, but on occasion eat some meat. They have no medical problems for they control their health by using their own mental powers. The average age of a Pleiadian is 700 years. Their skin is whiter and smoother than ours.

The Pleiadians have no currency as we know it; they share the resources of their planet with all the people. All material goods are given to the people freely, based on their contribution to their society.

When children are born into the Pleiadian society, they are taught for the first ten years to understand the purpose of their lives. The children then spend the next sixty to seventy years being educated in various occupations.

Pleiadians travel in spacecrafts called a Beamship. They have different sizes for different useage. They are approximately 21 feet in diameter, can carry several people and have interplantary capabilities. Beamships can travel billions of miles in a part of a second by traveling in hyperspace. Because of this ability, the trip from Erra in Pleiades to Earth takes only seven hours.

The Pleiadians will land along with other benevolent extraterrestrials after the major changes have occured on Earth. When we are in The Photon Band by year 2000, the Pleiadians will bring in Mother Ships to help the survivors of Earth with food and temporary shelter.

welcome to the club of sufferers..rudeboy..this one of the things we at UM have to suffer!

Dude, LOL, 18 is way to old to make up stories, like the sound of them, then hope they are real!

Just enjoy Sci-Fi for what it is. Otherwise you’re going to be like L Ron Hubbard! Hmmm actually he did make a lot of money though....so if you can convince others maybe you're onto something!

Welcome to Um , but you will get a bollocking for this topic he he he!

P.S i luv Dr Who as well!

http://www.comfychair.org/~cmbell/myth/draco.html


http://www.maar.us/alien_species.html

http://ufo.whipnet.org/xdocs/project.bluebook/index.html

its like a bad car crash....i,,,just,,,,,,,cant,,,,,,,help,,,,,,,but to look,,,,and stare.
then i feel bad because i point and laugh.


with that much free time on your hands and that much imagination you should be writing some badass books becoming the king of space drama.i can see the future its all laid out for you..there will be a triloigy of record breaking movies youll set a new record for toys a merch sales,,,,,youll be the first to make 3 seperate spin offs that become huge block buster events.youll start a new order of geeks and small relegions,,,eventually your attempt to save the world by taking over the world will fail and you and your followers will die with no originality by drinking poison kool-aid,,,,but people will debate the fact that you were paying homage to jim jones and making a statement about fallen relegions,,,,,,,or you can just drink the kool ade now..befor the draco get ya beacuse you left out the fact they can see the future and they know your movies will prepare the world for their deception and they are gonna come for you before you can get the message out........i know this because i am a tattooonian,we are watchers seeking the teller of truths to awaken the world we have been here since the dawn of man watching and waiting for the one to bring the world into the light.so has it been written so shall it be

Welcome to the forum 'zerotheshadow'....

Don't be put off by the 'mockers'.....they seem to be antagonised by 'unexplained mysteries' which is strange
as that is what this forum is about...

Looks like crystal sage has some interesting bits and bobs for you.

Ummmm, since we share something like 98% of our DNA with Chimpanzees, I guess that means the ancient outer space humans brought them here as well (sex slaves?). And what about the Neanderthals, who we are far more closely related to? And the space humans must have really been crazy. They come here in high tech space craft, yet throw away all that technology and prefer fighting dangerous predators with stone tipped spears, and worship the Sun and Moon as Gods, when space travelers would know them for what they really area.......... yeah, right.

I have read of such over 30 years ago.
The problem is science.
Like the others pointed out, our DNA for one.

I do believe alien visitations go way back into our past.
What they were up to back then is purely conjecture.

i have no problem with the human question.....i have no problem with believing in aliens,,,,i have a problem with his web site giving history in a factual history lesson with completly made up situations outcome and dramas

is this comment ironic or what!

yep, the genetic evidence is conclusive, Humans are just as much 'natives' to Earth as all the other hominid’s here... IMO

The nordics are different, why the monkey's have so many war's with them. And have persicuted them for many age's. If this should insult someone, that's just to bad. It's part of the delusional outlook's out there. When you make slave's from the genetic's of a planet, of course the majority of the monkey's in present day will think we all come from the same pot, not so.

The pleidian crap is just that, crap.

Much of the religious mumbo out there reflect's this{crap} A world wide nation of different race's will never come to pass. Their mistake was using religion, to force their washed out everyone is equel garbage, after a few changes in the religious message to blind everyone. Even if we were attacked from outside the world, people would still be killing those of other race's, because of their beginning's. Which can't be hidden, even if all evidence of it has been kept hidden, or destroyed through distorted meaning's through religion's/medical understanding. You can't hide/keep someone, or force them through distortion, from getting the information from themselve's. Why religion is designed to make those method's a thing of evil through their hooha.

The major goal of the American religious will never be realized, for no one want's their hegemy, the only way they could do what they already have, is through control of the goverment, which makes it their's, not the rest of our's. That the beast would use message's of peace, goodwill, sterile love, and destruction through the guise of "good" for all, is not surprising. The religious have ever been it's slave's.

But humans that are forced to experiance through the monkey's of the beast, they will be the one's to topple the monkey's for good.

I honestly can't get past the comparison of putting a chimpanzee... in a room with a typewriter... and then expecting .. knowing that somehow some time in the future we'll have a Shakespearian play...

that science allows that this can be a possible result..given their calculable odds...

why not put a frog or a bowl of water containing plankton in the same room and insisting that the combination of the two can via a scientific theory result in a Shakespearian play... or why not??? something by Oscar Wilde???

Or the idea that it is the survival ,evolution of a virus..bacteria that initiated .. or created the byproduct of humanity and it's technology .. in order for it to exist experientially???

Then there's Panspermia
http://leiwenwu.tripod.com/panspermia.htm

http://www.space.com/searchforlife/aliens_all_001027-1.html

but there's still the Catch 22 problem... the what came first... the chicken or the egg???

where /how/ why when did the microbes originate???

Thoughts lead to actions and the reactions... create... How and Where did thoughts come from.. ?the metaphysicality of life...? was it just a spark??

A spark of what?

a Chemical reaction???

is everything really just chance??? Random accurances?

I have a belief, and shoot it down it you will. My idea is that the different races of Earth are each different aliens who at some point landed here, either accidently or on purpose, and began to reproduce and populate the planet. Asians, Africans, Caucasians, Polynesians, etc are each descended from different alien species. How are they able to interbreed? I guess our DNA is just that close. Is that as the result of Intelligent Design, some God? Was there originally some common point of origin of all alien species? How the heck would I know?! Hey, it's just an idea, and you can probably come up with 100 reasons why it ain't so, but I think it's something to go with.

I know the commonly accepted theory is that Homo Erectus originated in Africa and from this their descendents spread all over Earth and the various cultures sprung up and flourished. How come Northern Europeans look so different to people from Africa then? Oh, because of the snow? Then how come Inuit peoples look similar the Indiginous peoples of the Americas? When are they going to start to become fair skinned, and have blue eyes?

And before you ask, no I don't have any proof. I am not saying that this idea is 100% right and everyone should adhere to it. I am saying it is my idea, and people should at least consider it before dismissing it totally. Ok, thanks for listening. Time to go take my medication...

EDIT: spelling

I'm with your there... the 12 tribes or god's choses ones... that were later known as the 12 tribes of Israel.. could have been from 12 settlements...constellations. fallen angels ..We have symbolically woven this into our reality.. 12 months.. ( to cleverly disguising the 13th tribe.. Lucifer's) cause in reallity we should have 13 months.. as there are 13 Lunar cycles) The Horoscopes.. 12 'Star' signs.. there is mention of a 13th.. the dark one.. http://skepdic.com/astrolgy.html..

http://www.interworx.com.au/users/karlene/...Star%20Sign.htm

did the Sumerians rewrite our history.. influence how we measured time???

Did they originate from a planet that had 12 lunar cycles???

and adapt it to this world???
http://www.unb.ca/transpo/mynet/babylonian.htm

sexagesimal system

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexagesimal

I noticed that when they aired the first time the last prophacy's of nostrodomous, that the man holding the snake that is the thirteenth star sign, was cuacausion.

Gee, i wonder if there is any truth to the oldest stories, that have been distorted to fit the view's of the monkey's that say they were the first here. And behind the worldwide worship of the beast they call their god.

We could learn more about the calender's that the savages called the mayan's learned to use when they had found it, after those who had actually made them, were gone.

The same with the ancestor's of those who call themselves the chosen one's, and are behind what is happening in the world now, through the use of those they secretly despise{caucausion}, because they are children of those before their own, who have forgotten who they are, and are led by the children of the beast towards their destruction.

Through belief's with no factual foundation. Ancient text's were themselves distorted, to reflect what the hebrew want's everyone to believe. That they were first. What we are all experiancing today, is the revealation that they were not, and that they are going to pay for what they have done, not only in blood and treasure, but the entirety of what they believe to be existance. The fourth world, that of the beast.

Those ancient stories stolen by the hebrews/christian's, are about caucausion's, and what was done to them by the monkey's of the beast. He who is real remember's, and he will watch, as they pay for their slaughter's of those he loved. He will watch as they destroy themselves, along with those of Atlantis that have betrayed their own people, by association with those of the beast, and the help they have given the monkey's that call themselves chosen.

The arragent chofaki that said on the same program, about Atlantis, we need to know where we are now, and move on from it, after he had gone along with the garbage of the beast they had chose to reveal. They will all learn that they have chosen wrongly. The concept of good and evil came from the concept of light and dark, that was written in most of the ancient text's, light and dark mean what we know to be the physical difference's between those of Atlantis, and those of the beast, it's monkey's.

It was never about good/evil. That is all layers of garbage, designed to keep atlanteans chained by belief's. The only escape is through themselves, not an outside entity. That is the trapp of the beast, dehumanizing everyone. Do any of you ever wonder why the belief's of the christians and jew's, are pretty much insectile in regards to sexuality, and sensuality. Even how they behave amoung themselves in the heiarchy's they have built from their belief's.

When they give themselves to it, they give up being human, and spend the rest of their time trying to dehumanize the rest of the world. To gain their own insectile view's, and spread the infection even further in the cause of the beast they serve.

On the BBC world show, Space presented by sam neal they put forth the theory that a piece of commet or space rock hit the earth and had bacteria in it wich adapted to the earths enviroment an that was the start of the first life forms and everything thing else evolved from that.

CS..you have a very curious mind and pose real wonderful questions!
i wish i had that much curiosity. keep it up.

Seriously people. What people look like matters very little. People can breed a cat or dog to look totally different in just a couple generations, but the cats or dogs can still interbreed with other cats or dogs, because they are still a cat or dog. It does not matter their size, color, hair, tail length. ect...

The science of genetics has shown through evidence accepted by almost everyone that all humans are linked geneticly. Also all races of humans can interbreed. That is because there is only one species of man. (Unless you count Big Foot ) The story of 12 races of man from the stars comes from BattleStar Galactica and other works of fiction.

When, or if, the Galactic Federation finally lands on Earth, then I will eat all the crow you can shovel.

Interesting idea, but the problem as far as I'm aware, is the complete lack of any supporting evidence. All scientific investigation points to the traditional view that man originates from here on earth. Hate to "spoil the party", but all evidence points in that direction.

Of course i agree with you on that the race's are interbred, and that they are all made up as the other poster said as well, it is what the beast is, the illusion of your percieved person, and enviroment, and what that enviroment is made up of. And is also what is being shown us through the calender's. That the world of the beast, the fourth world, is ending. There is no, and will be no fifth world. For there is already a reality, the garden under the garden that Atlantis had been spoken of by nostrodomous.

What the beast, through religion and the rest, was trying so hard to hide.

How big is 4.6 BILLION YEARS? That is 4,600,000,000 years. How many wars have we had in 1000 years? There have been so many changes, so many opportunities for outside races to change us. In my opinion, a bodiless spirit came here and joined itself to a body because that was the only way it could survive. The body was probably a gorilla since the bodiless spirit wouldn't have room in a bird. Well, through the DNA sequencing and climate changes, the gorilla started shedding it's hair. And well, by that time the instinct of the gorilla to propogate the species was fully in vogue then. I guess female gorillas started noticing that their bodies looked so much better without the body hair so they start shaving their legs and under the arms. Ever watched 'Planet of the Apes?'
I used to think that the races of mankind came from comets that struck the earth after they had travelled through the universe and in their travelling, they picked up elements of other worlds. When the comet struck the earth, the elements went into the soil and through fusion with the elements of this earth life began. But, that might not be the beginning of man. Man has the same characteristics as apes and like I said, it was probably the desire of a bodiless spirit to survive.

No, no, no.
I think it's clear that different breeds of dog come from different planets. My basset hound is quite adamant his people originally came from the planet Basset Prime, the land of hams and naps. (And not much else, which is why they came here in a very long spaceship.)

--Jaylemurph

Or maybe the original ones came from ONE planet....in the Sirius star-system...(.the DOG STAR. )

PS....I'm only HALF joking!

Snarf?

What if your bodyless spirit was the human who is real, that was subjected to the illusion called reality, and look's upon us as the empty thing's we are?

No, he was very specific (I have to admit, I was intrigued, so we sat and discussed it for a while).

Bassets are from Basset Prime. Other dogs are from other planets. Although he admits that in the far distant past, they could all have come from the same planet (and it does seems likely to him it'd be Sirius), for many years, the Loose Alliance of Hounds shunned the Little Yappies and the Dim Retrievers, preferring to spend their time philosophizing, napping and chasing bunnies (usually in that order). It was this Alliance that originally came to Earth in the year 1946 when they realized that humans would feed them and provide soft pillows for napping. Other breeds soon followed, and all breeds agreed it would be unseemly to continue canine-internecine struggle in front of the primitives. They all briefly worked together to create a mythic, pre-1946 past* with dogs, and then disbanded in favour of a nice walk.

--Jaylemurph


*From dim memories of this came all rumors of a conspiracy of silence about the past.

O Rude One,

He appropriated the bogus Pleiadean crapola from a completely discredited and embarassingly exposed Billy Meier.

I didn't go to the idiotic website so I can't speak to the rest of the worthless spew written there - I'm trying to keep my blood pressure down and uncontrollable guffawing could raise it. Mayber later. After all, laughter is the best medicine...

Meier is a crook and a thief, not to mention a complete moron for providing obviously fake photos of one of his alien buddies brandishing a ray gun right out of a 1950's bad sci-fi flick.


Your "idea" is a fish in a barrel. It ain't worth shooting at.


Louie,

This idea, "panspermia," takes care of the life origin problem here on Earth quite nicely and is (I believe) certainly possible. For this particular thread it's a good suggestion.

But it doesn't say a thing about the origin of the life that was the bacteria transported by the comet so it doesn't really answer the BIG question(s).

Harte

Supporting Panspermia!!!!


there are said to be 200 tons of meteors that hit Earth per day!!!!

"The places designated for them to do this was Bali, Hawaii, Samoa and India. Civilizations came and went on Earth with many wars, peaceful cycles and natural disasters, between 196,000 B.C. and 10 A.D. The Pleiadians stayed with humans on Earth until 10 A.D. trying to help develop various civilizations such as Lemuria, Maya, Inca and a civilzation at Machu Picchu. They also were trying to guide humans toward a more spiritual path."



I love websites like this. What they say is we brown people are too backwards to have developed our own civilizations. Rather racist if you ask me..........


Lapiche

edit: "Nordics" That Horse#$%@ burns my little brown azz!!! How racist.........

hehe this made my day. Though i have sneaking suspiciouns of my dogs being in a secret plot to take over the world (pinky and the brain style but with pooches of course) one is very bright and sneaky and the other well.. he's none too clever but kinda cute.

Click to view attachment He's the little one in front the one behind is my better half.

back on topic. I feel the evidence points to us origonating here. the only way i can see any part of us being form elsewhere is if it was so far back that it was the most basic organisms from which the rest evolved.

Now, if it were me, I'd be cheesed that real places and people like the Incas, the Mayas and their cities were talked about in the same breath as Lemuria. /Apparently/ the wonders of those people just aren't impressive enough...



That's the nice thing about Basset Hounds -- they're just too lazy to take over the word, or even plan to. Their ambition ends in taking over the couch.

--Jaylemurph

I did not say that humans are not real and and what you call illusion is more like fantasy and no, we're not empty things and no, crystal not panspermia, the flood. All of the tons of debris that passes through the ozone layer creates water, it creates the clouds. It creates the weather, the hurricanes, the floods, the tornadoes. Well, man does a lot of adding to the mix here lately. But, nobody knows what caused man to be so diverse in cultures and languages and behaviours. It may have been that there were 7 distinct races of man millions of years ago and the Creator of these races accomplished the trial he created and left; took his chosen few with him and left behind a gift: the rainbow. It may have been a forever reminder that there were the first 7 races.

Well, we can all hope it is ending, but not the way anyone write's about. And it is a bit shameless to taunt those who think they are real, and have a chance. Thank's for the response, later then.

I'm cheesed! Believe me. I'm a Nanticoke Injun who lectures at schools and colleges. I get battered by that Atlantian crap. Every time some New Age smack talks about Atlantis and my people being part of it I want to hit them in the head with a bat.............


Lapiche

I was wondering about this the other day. Why if the Earth is hit by tons of meteors every day, do we not see more impacts with meteors on the Moon? Shouldn't we be seeing little craters and dust clouds appearing all the time? Just a weird thought...

I also think panspermia is possible, but with the distances involved in moving a rock between stars, I'd say we would still lucky to be here.

I do think that we would have caught some seeds.. spores... maybe some reptilian eggs... from huge meteors...
that eventually created an atmosphere on Earth...made it habitable.. just as we are planning to seed Mars to make it habitable...

http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/ast.2005.5.483

http://novaspivack.typepad.com/nova_spivac...p_earth_li.html

Thanks CS for that meteor versus Moon Quote. Was that from UM or somewhere else?

Your second link makes a good point in that we could ensure that life continues in our solar system by sending out rocks/satilites that carry hybernating single celled creatures that could fall to Earth in millions of years and reseed life here. I doubt it will be necessary, but it is better to prepare then to not.

Actually, we do know.

Origins of races and more...

Origins of languages and stuff

Nordics are not aliens. They are Nordics. There is perfectly good scientific reasoning behind why they are light haired, eyed, and skinned. It's nothing supernatural.

And...why is the rainbow a gift? If man could see color before the 'gift' of the rainbow, then they were always around to begin with. I never understood that one.


P.S. Jaylemurph~ I have discussed your dog's admission of his origins with my dog, and she was quite relieved that someone else had spilled the beans before she had a chance to.

hmm no, we humans are biologically compatible with the life of this planet, ergo we are a native form of life.

how different?



ok im not the smartest man in the world, but who are those monkeys? planet of the ape's crap? or KKK b*llsh**?

Can't tell you about those difference's, because the've been buried in bullcrap, and possable origion's buried in yet more bullcrap. What it come's down to the first one is personal, and can't be proved, because it's been distorted for thousand's of year's by religious hooey, but it fit's in with the ancient storie's of supposed visitor's.

The monkey's being us.

Yeah, well, couch, world, whatever. I mean, is there really a difference?

Harte

ooOOoook! I understand (sort of).

Haha! Well, whatever the belief meter for the individual say's to them, "reality" even in the context as to what is viewed as real here, is all illusion. Belief being the primary delusion within the illusion.

Steady on, Harte...you nearly got a bit philosophical there...

oops from here...

<a href="http://www.ayton.id.au/gary/Science/Astron...Ast_Meteors.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ayton.id.au/gary/Science/Astron...Ast_Meteors.htm</a>

Think of the Red Rains of Kerala !!!
I wonder what has happened to the environment since then??



http://www.kerala.com/wiki-Red_rain_in_Kerala
Any mutations...??? any changes to anything at all???