I found this info on another forum and I must say it is a very interesting read. I'll post only a part of it here and provide the link to the original thread it comes from. I guess I would like to know what your opinions are on this, and if anyone has actually studied this in detail.

the post from ATS:


Either that or there's several ancient civilizations inside the earth or stuffed in some canyon on the sea floor. Personally, my research leads me to believe the former: et al, stargates are real. Sounds crazy? Yes, it honestly does, but so does quantum cloning and teleportation, and yet it's happening as we speak. Science is the equivalent of the Twilight Zone, Star Wars and Star Trek, all rolled into one, these days.

If you'd like to inquire as to what I've learned, feel free to ask. If you'd like to debate the possibilities, be my guest. If you'd just like to say I'm wrong, also, do, as you will. I don't wish to just dump all this information in your laps so let's just start with the basic premise: (Ancient) Stargates are real.



Q: ok you think stargates exist... share with me some enlightening evidence you have on your theory, and, if a stargate were available to the public, how much would be on the price tag??



Ancient history is a good place to start. Have you noticed how about 300 years ago or thereabouts, all our ancient history texts were basically ruled unreliable because they mentioned "supernatural" events? All religious texts, (many of which were historical texts that were simply labelled "religious"), except the hieroglyphs from ancient Egypt, were said to be falsehoods. Using the hieroglyphs, they attempted to set a timeline for ancient history, but ignored everything else. That was a big mistake.

Nearly every ancient civilization refers to a place called the "underworld" and a place called the heavens, both of which appear to be more than simply metaphors for the planets and stars rising and setting into and over the horizon. The ancient Hindus and some of the Buddhists, said the only way to access the upper levels of heaven was via Mt. Meru (also called Mt. Sumeru), which wasn't an actual mountain but a reference to a ziggurat in ancient Sumer (this is the pivotal point, but I don't want to overload your circuits with too much information if you aren't aware of any of these ancient stories). The ancient Egyptians also believed in an entrance to the underworld and a boat, which travelled on heavenly waters (et.al, a mode of transportation), which carried them into the heavens. The ancient Sumerians referred to otherworldly places, which were accessed via gateways into the underworld, and gates up to the heavens.

I guess it all depends on how much you know about ancient civilizations and their texts. Do you know anything about ancient Sumer?





Q: C'mon, C'mon...we can handle it...Sumer was Iraq right?
So maybe my godfeeling about the war was right...now where does the idea I have come from...if it is true, there must be a source




Yes, Sumer is modern day Iraq. It was the first civilization, to date. Not the first people, but the first known civilization. The stories about ancient Sumer are written down in their cuneiform cylinder seals, which were really the equivalent of timeless history books. Other stories were found in the Hindu Mahabarata and the Hebrew Torah and Pseudopigraphia (the Book of Enoch, the Book of Giants, etc). Also, even some of the oldest stories (or histories) from ancient China have echoes of the events that happened back in Sumer and even describe some of the exploits of the biblical Nimrod (also known as the Egyptian Osiris and Chinese Emperor Shun)



Okay, if you know anything about ancient Sumer, then you would know Enki (or Ea, or Enki-Ea, all the same guy). He supposedly built a ziggurat in ancient Sumer but the description of it is FAR from being a ziggurat. It's said to be composed entirely of silver (not mud bricks covered in silver but entirely of silver). It's interior was a "tangled thread beyond understanding", the walls speak and give advice, it floats and hovers, and shines so brightly it lights up the area. Oh and it also "roars." I'm not making this up. It's in their ancient texts (see "Enki and the World Order"). This is not the description of a ziggurat. But if you were to see a depiction of Enki's ziggurat, it would be maybe four floors high, each floor a bit smaller than the one below it, with a glowing "Temple" on top, and have the appearance of a throne (such as the Emperor's throne in the Emperor's Palace, Forbidden City, China) or the typical UFO model (the saucer, but in this case, with squared corners and a lighted, glowing dome on top).

When Enki's "ziggurat" first came here, it emerged from the abyss; the underworld called the Abzu or Apsu, and landed in what was to become Sumer. He and his compadres then set about building ancient Sumer. This event is detailed briefly in Genesis 6:4 of the bible, the Book of Enoch and in Enki and the World Order.

What has so many confused is how it could come up from down. The answer is that the down it came from was a stargate.



Q: Hmm, Enki was the son or the brother of an Annunaki king or leader wasn't he?



Enki and Enlil were brother Anunnaki, yes. I interpret them to be the equivalent of the Hindu gods mentioned in the Mahabharata, the old gods of the Egyptians (meaning those that predate Osiris, the Falcon gods)
and the Angels of the biblical texts, albeit the fallen ones.



Surely. Are you familiar with the Abydos "Osirieon" of ancient Egypt? If not, check it out here: http://www.phouka.com/pharaoh/egypt/photos...osireon-01.html

It belongs to a group of buildings I think of as the Anunnaki buildings. The reason I believe this will become apparent when you read the information on it. It's undecorated like the Great Pyramid of Cheops or Khufu. It definitely predates the Temple of Seti and it's built underground for a reason that relates directly to what I've already said in this thread.



Q: were there only Stargates in Sumer (Iraq) or were there others too…Egyptian Pyramids suggest some alien presence too...
by the way did you know there is a movie in the making about the Anunnaki and Enki en Enlil etc, etc?
Very great, I've seen a trailer... fantastic special effects and it follows the story as we know it...I know its off topic but its going to be a great movie if your into the Annunaki and Enki and Enlil story.




Personally think there were more stargates, yes. For example, Tiwanaku (Tiahuanacu, by Lake Titicaca, Peru), not only hosts the Gateway of the Sun, but another "Anunnaki" subterranean building called "The Subterranean Temple", which you can see here (first picture on the top left): http://www.archaeology.org/interactive/tiwanaku/ The walls of the temple feature the faces of various "races" of humans, it's megalithic, very old. I think it housed a stargate at one point. All of these "subterranean chambers" are not only related to Enki's Abzu stargate but to the "bottomless pit" in the book of Revelation in the bible. (Revelation 9 ) which is derived from the word "Abyss", which is derived from the word Abzu or Apsu. Read Revelation 9
http://www.htmlbible.com/kjv30/B66C009.htm



Q: Any idea what could have happened to these stargates? Where are they now?

Interesting read....









Well the biblical account seems to indicate they were all buried under several feet of silt and rock, not to be rediscovered until the end times of planet earth. Enki's gate is still buried (at least until recently).

Something many people are not aware of: Enki's E.ABZU ziggurat was situated on the same exact spot as the later Tower of Babel, which is called the Etemenanki. You can read about the Etemenanki here: http://www.livius.org/es-ez/etemenanki/etemenanki.html

It was built on the same spot as Enki's "ziggurat", which means it is the location of the bottomless pit of Revelation 9, as well.





Perhaps I worded that wrong I meant that Judaism Christianity appeared to have "borrowed" from earlier religions. Look at the story of Noah a compared to that of Utnapishtim in the Epic Gilgamesh.

The account of the flood and the man that survived were far too alike to be the result of a shared oral histories IMO this earlier story was taken and incorporated into Judaism. There does seems to a shared history all over the world of a global flood but none have such striking parallels as those.






According to archaeological digs in the area of where Sumer sprang up, Semites already were present in the area before the cities of Sumer were built. This essentially means, the Hebrews were there as well, and have their own accounts of what they saw, some of which are oral histories as indicated in a few passages in Deuteronomy, where Moses is recounting the oral histories to the people. These oral histories speak of the Tower of Babel and the subsequent governments/nations that followed, information that isn't in the bible but simply referred to as support for further information he was about to regale them with. The more in-depth information was stuff that never made it into the bible because the bible was a condensed version of thousands of years of history and genealogies.

Let's consider the Akkadian mainstream version of the flood and compare it to the biblical and Book of Enoch version. In the mainstream version Enlil has a hissy fit, claims the people are too noisy, and decides to have a flood kill them all. In the biblical and pseudopigraphical version, the fallen ones had infected the populace, made hybrids (Nephilim) that appeared to like human flesh for dinner. They had nearly wiped out the entire human population on the planet, thusly why it says Noah was perfect in his generations (he was fully human). The Akkadian version attributes the flood and the warning to Enlil and Enki. However, the biblical texts indicate that Noah was warned by Jehovah, because he was one of the only humans left in all of Mesopotamia. (Note: what that amounts to is, the Anunnaki offspring were human hybrids. if you've heard that saying " Never meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup," then you have some idea of what I'm saying. they ate humans. the planet was completely polluted. crops wouldn't grow, there was some kind of nuclear exchange, which can be read in the Hindu Mahabharata which devastated whole cities. we began to look tasty with ketchup, hold the pickles hold the lettuce. this is why there was a flood, not because we were too noisy. btw, Nibru is Enlil's city of Nippur. the etymology for it is pretty convincing: Nibru became Nibbur became Nippur. Nibiru the planet doesn't exist, although the tenth planet may exist, it isn't called Nibru. The heaven-earth bond, called the DUR.ANKI, was a stargate at Nibru (Nippur) and not solely a communications center.



Q: How do you explain the lack of pictorial evidence of a gate, or do they exist.
There are drawings around the world of major events, buildings etc spanning the ages. Are there any drawings referencing a gate?



Yes, I believe so. This is the Abzu entrance. Notice the water flowing around the door, with stairs leading upwards inside the door:



http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~cat...-filer/abzu.JPG


It's pertinent to note the image above is from a Sumerian cylinder seal.





Q: I wonder if there's a reference in any of the pyramid drawings.



After the flood (which I theorize was caused by pollution which caused the polar icecaps to melt. ironic, isn't it?) one of Noah's descendants, named Nimrod/Shun/Osiris and possibly even Marduk, was the first "Babylonian" world emperor. He attributed to himself, all the deeds of the Anunnaki before him. He refers to Enki as his father (in other words, he was a hybrid), even though he was raised by one of Noah's descendants. He became a mighty man before the Lord. Mighty in this case, is attributed almost exclusively in biblical texts, to the Nephilim hybrids.

Anyway, he carts off all his knowledge about the past to Egypt, which he reconfigures ever so slightly to make him the new god Emperor. So yep, there are definitely references to star gates in the ancient Egypt paintings. They just appear in heavy metaphorical terms, primarily because a lot of what they were depicting, after several generations had passed, was based on Nimrod's semi-truths of ancient truths, which were themselves not entirely reliable.



1. Where does this technology originate from?

I dunno! One working theory i have is that the earth was inhabited by the angels before humans. There's a gap in between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 that basically states the earth was a frozen chunk of ice for awhile, even after the heavens and earth had already been created, which makes me think it's a reference to an ice age. Not all the information is there. Super condensed version.

2. Who is using it today?

Erm, would just be a guess, but I'm thinking this may account for why we had such an influx of UFO sightings following WWII. So let me theorize and say ..hrm...the USA? Germany? Iraq?

3. To what purpose is it being used today?

Whatever it is, if they are using it, it can't be good, because according to Revelation 9, when that thing is opened, all hell breaks loose.








Q: do you think the star gates were used to travel between them on earth? …Or to locations elsewhere?





Both! I think they used them to travel between the sites here on earth where they had enslaved the local populaces, such as in Peru at Lake Titicaca. I'm still trying to track down what exactly the Osirieon in Abydos is actually about, but my working theory is that it either contained a star gate or was a model of the original chamber at Enki's ziggurat (in Eridu) that contained the star gate. The trail has thus far; lead me to Heliopolis, which unfortunately is mostly covered up by modern day Cairo.





Q: does your theory basically assert that aliens came to earth and gave us this technology, or ancient civilizations developed it on their own?

If its the alien slant, how do you balance that idea with your strong religious beliefs as outlined in your acknowledgements in your e-book?

If ancient civilizations are the source, how did they develop the energy infrastructure needed to develop such an amazing technology?





My personal opinion is that the technology was already here. As I mentioned earlier, I believe what we call "angels" and "extra-terrestrials", lived on this planet at one point, prior to humans. I believe this is indicated in the bible and in some of the Sumerian writings. There may have been several races of angels, which would go a long way in explaining why people who claim they've encountered extra-terrestrials, have so many different descriptions for them. I'm unsure how advanced their civilization on earth was, but it must've been pretty far along.

This does not contradict the bible, because angels are said to be created beings. They inhabit bodies. They can eat, drink, speak, fight, have sex, the whole gamut of activities, that we humans take part in, and then some. However, there appears to have been a separation, according to biblical texts, of powers. The "angels" were given free wills, just as humans have, and, just like humans, some of them made wrong or bad choices. This is being re-enacted on our planet as we speak. We think of them as the holy angels and the fallen angels. The fallen ones, otherwise known as the Anunnaki, interfered (think of it like disobeying the prime directive) with the human race. They taught us war and weapons of war, when we didn't even know how to count to 2, for example. That wasn't a very good idea, I might add. They polluted the planet with their subsequent wars, using humans as cannon fodder. They tinkered with us genetically, polluting the genomes of nearly every living thing on the planet. (sounds familiar). These are not good "angels" or "aliens", for that matter.






Annunaki/Aliens/Angles breading with humans?



Here's a little study I did on Anunnaki traits in ancient Royals:


The Akhenaton Family

Princess Meritaten, the daughter of King Akhenaten



http://www.thestargates.com/image/Meritaten.jpg





According to this article at National Geographic, this skull was NOT the result of disease.

http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/050...1/gallery4.html



King Tutankhamen

http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/050...gallery.1.3.jpg



Seti I

http://www.thestargates.com/image/seti1.jpg



Sitamon - daughter of Ahmose

http://www.thestargates.com/image/hatshepsut.jpg



Djedptahiufankh - son of Ramses

http://www.thestargates.com/image/dzed.jpg



Tuthmosis III

http://www.thestargates.com/image/tuth3.jpg



A Statue from ancient Mesopotamia

http://oi.uchicago.edu/OI/IRAQ/dbfiles/objects/11.htm



Check out the hieroglyphic carving, and notice the skulls of the adults and the children:

http://www.rainbowcrystal.com/egypt/E-77akhenaton.jpg



I'm sure you've seen the elongated skulls of the Inca tribes that were said to bind the heads of their royal babies so the skull would form elongated. The problem is, the ancient Egyptians didn't do this head binding and yet their royals were frequently born with elongated heads. I'm assuming some of the elongated skulls are the result of hybridization and genetic abnormalities, and some are the result of mimicry, where it became a fad, but these cannot all be the result of head binding:

Here's more elongated skulls:

http://www.crystalinks.com/incanskulls.html





Assuming governments (or a multinational company) dug these stargates up and used them, why wouldn't they try to get resources like oil and gold that would exist on vacant or even populated planets? If this were going on, there would be a conspiracy theorist out there talking about the subject. In my opinion we're not seeing a huge amount of resources/raw materials being dumped in the Earth's lap. To hell with contacting ET, humans would want to exploit the gate for wealth. Using history we can see that certain things aren't valued universally (ex. Spain taking gold from South America). However, what is universal on Earth is greed.





I don't assume they've dug them up, to be honest. I'm guessing, purely guessing, based on the information so far. According to Revelation 9, when it's dug up and "unlocked", that's when the trouble begins. Several ideas come to mind regarding why this may have already happened:

1. In the ancient texts, specifically the bible and Book of Enoch (a pseudopigraphical text), it explains that the earth was a mess the last time the Anunnaki/Angels/Aliens were involved with our governments on a major scale. Have you read these accounts? You really should. Consider the people who wrote down what they saw, were doing their best to describe the events. But the German High Critics, some 300 years ago, decided it was all a bunch of hooey. It really wasn't their fault. They were just the sceptics of their day. That was before our geneticists figured out people can be created in other ways than simply via the birth canal. That was before flying machines. That was before laser technology. Solar power. Spaceships. Satellites. And before quantum and theoretical physics.


2. Because of #1, our planet has grown technologically, by leaps and bounds. I mean, incredibly fast! Today, they are publicly designing a quantum computer and working on wormhole theory. Everything we see reported in the mainstream is about 5-10 years behind the actual development, to keep rival companies and rival countries, from gaining access to sensitive technological inventions and innovations. So what we don't know for certain now, we will know for certain in the future (provided we don't use that other ancient device known as the atom bomb and blow each other into oblivion, first). I believe this massive increase in technology was assisted along by outside forces, the same forces that assisted in nearly destroying the earth in antediluvian times. All the same signs are visible: pollution, both genetic and environmental, rapid transit, rapid flying transit, space going vessels, sea going vessels, under and over the water, rampant diseases, massive plagues, (65% of all military members who were in the Gulf War are now on disability or they are dead, mostly from Gulf War Syndrome), depleted uranium is poisoning Iraq and the people in it, once again. The bible describes the last days of planet Earth as being a carbon copy of the days of Noah, which were characterized by rampant wars and pollution, diseases, and the destruction of the greenery of the planet. The animals were so badly mutated genetically and because of disease, they were no longer edible. Green planet life was dying from massive droughts. The offspring of the Anunnaki, started eating humans enmasse. Soylent Green, anyone?

3. An increase in UFO sightings following Hitler's charge for archaeological relics which just happen to almost coincide with our discovery of the nuclear bomb, which was followed by the introduction of space going craft, etc.

As far as knowing the schematics of a star gate: nopers, not a clue. As regards your questions about greed, I have no idea if they even have it yet, or if they've found a way to open it. According to Revelation 9, the thing is opened by an Angel/Alien/Anunnaki, who descends to the earth and opens it.








More on this very interesting read here:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread197741/pg1

I go to that site a lot. :/ There's a lot of interesting things there.

I don't know. I only read the first part of the article.

I absolutely love ancient alternative history theories. They are great reading and fun to do what if with.

Its great reading,but only as ficiton for me. Would make a great scifi movie.

I think there may be 'stargates'....and I think SOME elements of goverment are possibly VERY
interested in them. This quote is from this site
It's from the transcript for the second video. It was tricky to extract enough to make sense....







I watched this video not so long ago and it was very good......anyway....after this stuff about 'the chair'
had sunk in a bit....I thought about all those Egyptian (and other) chairs/thrones depicted in ancient
pictures. And I started thinking...maybe, when they are sitting on the 'chair/throne' that this is a depiction
of going through to another dimension? A 'stargate' maybe?
Don't want to make this post too long....so I'll stop there. (for now).....

good reading.. i wonder how much is propaganda bunk tho' ..a movie? whenever these boffins over at the dream factory (aka hollywood) do something along these lines it never turns out well for the truth seeker..

dcman, if you can take the word of a stranger on a kooky forum.. i can confirm there was a gate or at least an 'exodus from the heavens' at that place now called the gate of the sun.. you would not believe me if i told you how i know this

there is also a passage in the bible (Joel? Jeremiah? J-something?) where the writer goes on to say they "are looking at the earth BEFORE there was an adam"

post further info please

Why don't you start a thread about "a gate or exodus from the heavens" and tell us all about it.


What other info would you like...more on the Star Gate? Curious, the more I look into this. You do remember Gary McKinnon?
What he found was information on the U.S. space program...but what did he actually find? ...Solar Warden comes to mind.

If Mr. McKinnon's data and assumption are correct, it validates what I and others have been postulating for many years: that the US Navy/Military may well be operating off-planet via back-engineered ET technology (or WWII German?) for a long time...long enough to have a 'fleet' of space craft and officers to either man them or otherwise control them. For those who remember the Clementine mission, you will recall it was a US Navy project which micro-mapped the entire Moon. If McKinnon stumbled onto a secret file of 'Non-Terrestrial Officers'...it would, indeed, suggest the US Military has been quietly, efficiently, secretly running off-planet operations for a long time.

Gary McKinnon, the English hacker facing 70 years in U.S. prison for searching Pentagon sites for UFO evidence, says the weirdest thing he found was a list of "Non-Terrestrial Officers" and fleet transfers between ships that don't exist in the U.S. Navy.



'I found a list of officers' names,' he claims, 'under the heading Non-Terrestrial Officers.'



'Non-Terrestrial Officers?'



'Yeah, I looked it up,' says Gary, 'and it's nowhere. It doesn't mean little green men. What I think it means is not earth-based. I found a list of fleet-to-fleet transfers, and a list of ship names. I looked them up. They weren't U.S. navy ships. What I saw made me believe they have some kind of spaceship, off-planet.'


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon

http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,,1523143,00.html

http://www.rense.com/general72/totp.htm

Let's see...the Stargate is historically located in Iraq. The U.S./U.K. invades Iraq and gains control of the country and all of its assets. Alegations of a hidden Star Gate in Iraq and a hidden Space Program called Solar Warden.

i can't make that thread, even what you are doing here is skating on thin ice.. and yes i was fishing for more of what you know.. also know this young british hackers story..
some interesting threads you draw together here but not yet smashed through the looking glass alice - i think you indeed know more than you type here so please proceed carefully.
enjoy the journey

...a liitle more about the Anunnaki/Aliens/Extra-Terrestrials [the fallen angels]



...Few people agree on the identity of the sumerian Anunnaki. However, one viewpoint seems to be generally accepted by many people of many disciplines: The Anunnaki were worshipped as gods by the sumerian people. To understand why such an event occured, one must also understand the timeframe.

....Ancient Sumer was the first civilization on the planet (to date). It was ushered in by the Anunnaki, who taught the people music, the sciences, astronomy, languages (both spoken and written), mathematics, herbology, manipulation of the environment, hybridization of crops, genetic manipulation of livestock, religion, sexual promiscuity, war, mining for resources, jewelry-making, tailoring, blacksmithing, architecture, art, poetry, human sacrifice, and the whole gamut of "civilized behaviors." In fact, these events are not only outlined in the writings of the ancient sumerians, but also in the Bible, the pseudopigraphia of the Hebrews [1] and the ancient texts of the Hindu.

....In the midst of all this, was Enki-Ea, the Anunnaki Lord of the Abzu. [2] As a result, this book will deal primarily with Enki or Enki-Ea, as his role in the events in which the Abzu plays a prominent part, is paramount in understanding the whys and wherefores of the Abyss, the Bottomless Pit, the behavior of the ancient peoples, and the prophetical biblical texts (both Old and New Testaments).

....Enki was not only the Lord of the Abzu and creator of the Temple of the E.ABZU at Eridu, he was purported to be the creator of the human race in the ancient sumerian texts. This is, of course, in direct contradiction with biblical texts in which Elohiym (God of the gods) [3] is the creator of humanity. How this contradiction occured and what it means to us today, is the premise of "The Anunnaki and the Abyss." Therefore, let us investigate this Enki character further so we can ascertain once and for all, who the Anunnaki were and how they impact us.

....In addition to creating "humans" (and I use that word loosely), Enki purportedly created "monsters," such as various animal-human hybrids, in his Temple of E.ABZU at Eridu. In short, he was playing with the genetics of the various species of life on this planet. So rather than saying he created humans, it would be more correct to say he created another form of human from pre-existing humans. He also designed a race of supermen, known in the biblical texts as the "nephilim." These supermen were entrusted with positions of authority, and became rulers, leaders and kings. One such example was "Gilgamesh", King of Uruk, who considered himself two-thirds god as a result of his lineage from the Anunnaki and Enki.[4]

[...]


....Typically referred to as Hell, the domain of the Fallen Angels is an enigmatic place. Biblically and historically, Hell is said to be many things, including: a firey place of torment, a burial heap outside the city limits, the grave, the Bottomless Pit, the Abyss, and the Underworld. Several concepts have been melded together to form that one infamous and enigmatic residence of the Fallen Angels. When taken together, they describe various aspects of "Hell," which I think is the best possible answer to the question of what Hell actually is: rather than a single four word description, we can combine its many aspects for a clearer picture.

....For example, if Hell were literally the grave, how could it also be a place of torment or the Bottomless Pit? If it were literally a burial heap outside the city limits, how could it also be the underworld or a firey place of torment? Now combine the concepts: It's obviously connected to the "underground", thusly the grave, Bottomless Pit and Abyss references, which amazingly, also confirms it as the sumerian Abzu, the greek Hades and the Roman Pluto (not to be confused with the planet Pluto)! In other words, these concepts validate and as a whole, describe, at least one of the major domains of the Fallen Angels mentioned repeatedly, in nearly every culture in history. I say "one of the major domains," because, like it or not, the Fallen Angels have also set up housekeeping on Earth and around Earth space, as well.

....In fact, it is my contention that the Fallen Angels are more than partially responsible for most UFO activity and "alien" abductions encountered by humans down through the annals of history. Let's take, for example, the Anunnaki "Igigi" of Akkadian and Babylonian fame. The cuneiform word "gi" [2] is the symbol for sexual intercourse, to deflower sexually. "I.gi" means in Akkadian, inu "eye", and is combined with the symbol for deflowering sexually. "Igigi" can then be translated to mean, the "Watchers", the "Eyes in the Sky" who deflower sexually (et.al, the Anunnaki/Fallen Angels). Yet, according to the sumerian texts, the Igigi were the Greater gods and didn't come to the earth, but remained up in the sky, circumnavigating the globe. So how is it they "Deflowered" anyone while being uninvolved in the activities of the humans on the planet? Abduction, my friends, abduction. And they are still at it today. It says in the Bible that the Apocalypse would feature aspects quite similar to the days of Noah leading up to the flood, such as a huge population of nephilim created by Anunnaki involvement with our species, abuse of the environment, genetic manipulation of life on the planet, poisoning of our food sources, and so on, mostly as a result of their nephilim progeny carrying out the Anunnaki agenda. Here we go again. How ironic that even in the face of historical precedence, we are right back where we started from. Who is really in control of this planet? I'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count.

....Sadly, many from the UFO community do not recognize the danger of the Anunnaki. Afterall, they say, "didn't the extra-terrestrials save us from launching nuclear bombs at one another?" "Aren't they more advanced on the evolutionary scale?" This, they believe, is evidence that the aliens/Anunnaki/Fallen Angels, have our best interests at heart. However, many don't take into consideration the past of the Anunnaki and that their final agenda has not yet been met: that is, the annihilation of humans as an eternal LIFEform. As a human, if you die, your body can still be resurrected to eternal life. As a result, any actions they may or may not take, whether seemingly good or bad, will inevitably lead to the latter for as many people as possible. That's the plan, and it is clearly outlined in scripture with hundreds of other ancient texts from various cultures to verify the historical precedence. Don't believe me? Think I'm just a crazy Bible thumper? Read the Hindu Mahabarata. [3]

If there is a Stargate existing in Southern Iraq that will play a role in such a 'prophesied return of the Anunnaki/Aliens, then it is most likely that clandestine government organizations that greatly influence, or control the Bush administration, are aware of the existence and the role of this Stargate. Saddam Hussein was most likely also aware of such a Stargate's existence, as might be inferred by his architectural projects intent on reviving the grandeur of early Mesopotamian civilizations, and cementing his place as the restorer of Iraq's past glory. More significantly, his permission for a German team of archaeologists to resume excavations in the Sumerian city of Uruk after detailed underground mapping, suggests that this may be the location of the Sumerian Stargate. This knowledge of a buried Stargate, may also be part of the reason why the German government was publically opposed to a US preemptive war against Iraq. If in fact both the Hussein regime and the Bush administration believe that a Stargate lies buried in the sands of Southern Iraq, then there most likely exists a race to gain access to it and to control it. William Henry's thesis is that this is indeed the political underpinning of the continuing military conflict in Iraq.

Take a look at this:

Do you think it is purely coincidence or something more that this ziggurat in southern Iraq is right next to the Tallil airbase? Could there be a link?


wider view of airbase & ziggurat:

http://www.wellingtongrey.net/miscellanea/...rgate-ikea.html

http://www.exopolitics.org/Study-Paper2.htm

touche

As always, interesting reading and great stuff for Scifi, thanks for the links DC
Very thought provoking.

I think all this stuff about ancient stargates and possible links with places on earth
like...Iraq?, Tiwanaku, Mayan/Egyptian pyramids...(and?)....is facinating.

Linking it with modern times and the possibility that some individuals/groups may be
more 'in the know' than others....is equally intriguing.

But I want to stick in a word for all of us...those of us not in the official 'need to know'
category....ie...the majority of us (including myself)

I don't think we should feel disempowered by seemingly being 'on the outside'.

I believe we all have our own mini star-gates...that we go through when we sleep/dream
and when we die. I.e.....going into another dimension...?

I think (hope) that the nature of these other dimensions has a self-limiting affect on negative
and/or evil.

If it's all to do with an integrated oneness....then bad things=withering...and good things=growth.

It's possible that when experimenting with the fabric of nature...the doors/gates into other dimensions...
anyone planning nasty things could be wholloped with a heavy dose of instant karma. And I would
include extra-terrestrials and humans in the karmic limitations.

Just a little ramble....

Some EBooks to peruse: http://www.thestargates.com/books.html

Stargates theory explains it all: it was not al-Qaida that attacked USA on September 11. but aliens that cammed from Stargates in ancient Sumeria (now Iraq) and that's why Bush & co. falsified evidences for going in Iraq. The real reason was to find those stargates, go trough them and fight aliens on their own ground.

if your theories are correct there may be one in america and europe.

America
egyptian mythology speaks of Osiris going west across the sea to the under world. i beleive the americas are the [think flat] underworld or at least house the gate to it. several [S/C]american tribes speak of a man from the east who taught law and agriculture [osiris's specialty]. and to top it off pyramids similar to egyptian design.

Europe
Norse mythology refers to bifrost a bridge to asgard[heaven]. the gods met on earth at a place known as the well of urd[i think theres 3 so i get confused]. also the gods have several outlandish tools to suggest ET prescense. ex gugnir a spear that never stops once thrown, freya's cloak allowed flight, baldurs boat could fit in his pocket yet house all the gods, etc.

infact the show/movie Stargate may be counter/sub info to make people think its fiction or ease them into the idea of stargates.