Papaver
Dec 1 2007, 08:17 PM
Can anyone tell me what this is or what it means?

Edited to add photograph in place of line drawing.
unit
Dec 1 2007, 08:38 PM
it's a composite of several symbols. most are astrological.
overall it looks to be a 'human' figure.. now there's all sorts of interpretations here.. the single eye in the head if that is even meant to be an eye? (myopia?) the horns, if they are even horns? (evil?) the 'male' symbol in the left hand, if that is even a male symbol (take your pick)
if i was one of these 'reptillian believers' i'd even go so far as to say the bottom section of the figure is serpertine..
where'd you see it?
Papaver
Dec 1 2007, 08:43 PM
QUOTE (unit @ Dec 1 2007, 08:38 PM)

where'd you see it?
Etched into a small silver disc.
unit
Dec 1 2007, 11:54 PM
not very forthcoming with the details are ye? quid pro quo doctor lector

at this point i'd be of the opinion it's part of some practitioners (lost) jewellry collection

you in france or england?
Papaver
Dec 2 2007, 12:11 AM
I am on the Island of Guernsey in the bay of St. Malo twenty miles from the French coast.
I believe it is jewellery but I cannot find the symbol anywhere on the net or in books. I have found parts of it and as you point out it is a composite but why do that and what might it mean?
Carcharoth
Dec 2 2007, 12:13 AM
For some reason I think I've seen it before, but I just don't know where. I think it was in some sort of grimoire or some text related to ritual magick or something like that.
knowledge..w/o..power
Dec 2 2007, 12:14 AM
QUOTE (Papaver @ Dec 1 2007, 08:17 PM)

Can anyone tell me what this is or what it means?

looks like a side view of a stick figure angel, sitting in a wheelchair, holding an arrow up to the sky
EmpressStarXVII
Dec 2 2007, 12:18 AM
QUOTE (Papaver @ Dec 1 2007, 03:17 PM)

Can anyone tell me what this is or what it means?

Oooh. I really like this.
I see the male representation symbol, the Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, and what looks like an upside down Ceres symbol (the bottom curly thing)
EmpressStarXVII
Dec 2 2007, 12:20 AM
Carcharoth
Dec 2 2007, 12:57 AM
I've tried looking through a few grimoires and such, but I can't find that specific symbol. However, it does look like it is indeed composed of symbols used in ritual magick.
unit
Dec 2 2007, 01:25 AM
good old france.. i hear 'fortune tellers' outnumber doctors 20/1 over there
seems like the scooby doo mystery is nearly solved?
if i was a betting unit, i'd say it was a personal charm/mandala kind of thing a practitioner made or had made.. kind of like a 'signature mark' (well one of you astro-heads take a look but i can't make any real sense of it.. it's basically a human figure made of astrological symbols that i'm not fluent with.. one of you mention ceres, and there is that male symbol in the left hand? what say you?)
pure unadulterated LOL @ angel in a wheelchair
kimirike
Dec 2 2007, 02:19 AM
That symbol looks interesting, on the top the little crescent reminds me of the moon crescent seen on the Goddess Selene (Diana is another name for her, Artemis would be the Greek equivalent I believe).
Here's a picture I found on wikipedia, sorry I couldn't find a better picture. Hope you find out where the symbol came from and what it means.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Luna_statue.jpg
Mademoiselle
Dec 2 2007, 12:10 PM
Celtic ? Looks like a little devil.
JMPD1
Dec 2 2007, 01:44 PM
looks like a badly reproduced copy of a symbol found int the spurious necronomicon.......
Kazahel
Dec 2 2007, 01:53 PM
It reminds me alittle of the hieroglyphic monad.
Papaver
Dec 2 2007, 02:19 PM
QUOTE (EmpressStarXVII @ Dec 2 2007, 12:20 AM)

Thanks for all the replies but especially that list.
It is a composite of the symbols for the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.
I will come clean and tell you that I own this piece of jewellery but as I didn't know what it meant I didn't want to spill the beans straight away. As a non-astrological believer and a believer in science I was not that chuffed with wearing such a symbolic piece of jewellery. Then I found the same symbols representing elements from the days of Alchemy, a fore-runner of the sciences and I can attribute the composite of symbols to that instead.
Now I'm a happy chap. It's a composite of early scientific symbols! In fact it contains the symbols for all of the "planetary metals" and only a few of the Astrological set of symbols so I think I can narrow down the meaning to the metals, as some of the planetary signs are missing.
They are the metals gold, silver, copper, iron, tin, mercury and lead.
I'm wearing it now...
EmpressStarXVII
Dec 2 2007, 09:15 PM
You' should take a picture

. I'd really love to see what it looks like. Very unique because I have never seen these symbols combined in such a way.
Papaver
Dec 2 2007, 09:47 PM
I'll try to sort that out.
It is actually deeply etched into an oval shaped plate of silver and the etched symbol is filled with crushed turquoise. The crushed turquoise stone has been mixed with a clear laquer and it is set into the silver. It's very pretty.
I will see if I can get a picture of it on my wife's 'phone and see if I can BlueTooth it to my laptop and upload it.
WonderTouched
Dec 3 2007, 01:10 AM
If it is placed inside of something like you discibed with turquoise it is probably a Charm.
you make them for protection put it on a neckless or it could be kept in your pocket I'll look up the Combo of symbols to see what its for. I just got a book and was reading about putting symbols together...I get back to you.
WonderTouched
Dec 3 2007, 02:12 AM
QUOTE (WonderTouched @ Dec 2 2007, 07:10 PM)

If it is placed inside of something like you discibed with turquoise it is probably a Charm.
you make them for protection put it on a neckless or it could be kept in your pocket I'll look up the Combo of symbols to see what its for. I just got a book and was reading about putting symbols together...I get back to you.
If it is a charm (If) The signs are in fact a combo... Ruler-( Earth) Taurus-(Zodiac sign)
Planets:
Jupiter - Stands for good fortune, career, prosperity, wisdom and dignity considered.
Mercury- Stands for mind and Intellect, as well as Communication.
Mars- stands for to conquer goals, animal magnetism,great understanding of nature.
Sun- Stands for Reflections, your own Character, personality, and development
Sounds like you may have a personal help charm.
Hope this helps
Omnaka
Dec 3 2007, 02:12 AM
Looks like a symbole for those spirits wanting to be blessed to Heaven and start another world.
Or children of another world looking to get back.
Love Omnaka
Mademoiselle
Dec 3 2007, 07:27 AM
QUOTE (Omnaka @ Dec 3 2007, 04:12 AM)

Looks like a symbole for those spirits wanting to be blessed to Heaven and start another world.
Or children of another world looking to get back.
Love Omnaka
Papaver
Dec 6 2007, 06:36 PM
Here it is...
The dot in the centre of the "head" is of a different blue/purple coloured stone.
Omnaka
Dec 6 2007, 06:41 PM
After seeing the real thing, I stand by My last post even more, It's the blue Love light.
Love Omnaka
EmpressStarXVII
Dec 6 2007, 07:47 PM
That is really beautiful, Papaver! Thank you for sharing with us what it looks like

.
Papaver
Dec 7 2007, 11:39 AM
Happy to share, glad you like it.
I'm very fond of it and have never seen another like it.
Omnaka
Dec 7 2007, 09:35 PM
Papaver, What does it Mean to you?
Love Omnaka
Papaver
Dec 8 2007, 09:56 AM
I have found out through the very decent and helpful member "Kashshaptu", that it is a representation of the Celtic god Cernunnos.
What it means to me though is a great memory of a place, a castle, where there was a festival going on and I bought it there.
BigBadBill
Dec 8 2007, 09:59 AM
QUOTE (Papaver @ Dec 1 2007, 02:17 PM)

Can anyone tell me what this is or what it means?

Edited to add photograph in place of line drawing.
Not a clue!
jaylemurph
Dec 8 2007, 09:30 PM
QUOTE (unit @ Dec 1 2007, 08:25 PM)

good old france.. i hear 'fortune tellers' outnumber doctors 20/1 over there
seems like the scooby doo mystery is nearly solved?
if i was a betting unit, i'd say it was a personal charm/mandala kind of thing a practitioner made or had made.. kind of like a 'signature mark' (well one of you astro-heads take a look but i can't make any real sense of it.. it's basically a human figure made of astrological symbols that i'm not fluent with.. one of you mention ceres, and there is that male symbol in the left hand? what say you?)
pure unadulterated LOL @ angel in a wheelchair
I think unit's description is best. It seems to be sort of typical of modern, half-understood hermeticism (that's what a lot of so-called modern "occult" "runic" stuff is) talisman. I'd be willing to bet it's pretty modern: its cental symbol appears to be a cross with equal bars to it, the bottom of which (looks like) is a question mark -- that's only from the 20th Century. I think Blue Oyster Cult used it on their albums, sometimes.
--Jaylemurph
Papaver
Dec 8 2007, 09:58 PM
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Dec 8 2007, 09:30 PM)

It seems to be sort of typical of modern,
It has no age to it. It was manufactured within the last ten years for certain.
I don't know if you folks read much of these threads before replying but it is a representation of the Celtic god Cernunnos.
Pawna
Dec 9 2007, 03:50 AM
QUOTE (Papaver @ Dec 2 2007, 02:19 PM)

Thanks for all the replies but especially that list.
It is a composite of the symbols for the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.
I will come clean and tell you that I own this piece of jewellery but as I didn't know what it meant I didn't want to spill the beans straight away. As a non-astrological believer and a believer in science I was not that chuffed with wearing such a symbolic piece of jewellery. Then I found the same symbols representing elements from the days of Alchemy, a fore-runner of the sciences and I can attribute the composite of symbols to that instead.
Now I'm a happy chap. It's a composite of early scientific symbols! In fact it contains the symbols for all of the "planetary metals" and only a few of the Astrological set of symbols so I think I can narrow down the meaning to the metals, as some of the planetary signs are missing.
They are the metals gold, silver, copper, iron, tin, mercury and lead.
I'm wearing it now...
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Its a three-legged cat playing the sax.
eight bits
Dec 9 2007, 11:51 AM
QUOTE
I have found out through the very decent and helpful member "Kashshaptu", that it is a representation of the Celtic god Cernunnos.
QUOTE
I don't know if you folks read much of these threads before replying but it is a representation of the Celtic god Cernunnos
If it is permitted, then perhaps you could explain more fully why you have come to believe that it represents Cerunnos specifically.
Papaver
Mar 13 2008, 07:30 PM
We have come to that conclusion because of four main features. Cernunnos has horns, he is always shown kneeling and I believe the symbol to represent a kneeling figure, he is also always shown carrying a quoit in his right hand and a serpent in his left both of which are represented in the symbol.
The symbol appears to represent all of these things, albeit stylistically, with a little artistic license shall we say.
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