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rohnds
I am placing this on this forum for a reason I will explain shortly.
On their program NOVA showed this animated image of moon produced using a number of still taken from Apollo 8. When it was aired you could see what look like "smoke stack".

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http://shadowboxent.brinkster.net/moon/esjmoon.html

I tried to hunt down the images NOVA used. The nearest comparison I could match the originals are AS08-14-2389 to AS08-14-2395.

Then I read the debunking story done by Phil Platt and one of their members on BA, RAAF. According to them the image used was AS08-14-2393.
But Platt's photo posted on BA as AS08-14-2393 does not match photo in question.

Here is the conspiracy. When we tried to obtain a copy we were informed by NASA that this image AS08-14-2393 is classified. Why?

Matter of fact the entire footage is under investigation and classified per NASA? Again why?


This thread isn't about the so called smoke stack but why classification of the image and "footage".

Rohn

EDIT: To add the link to the story.
Papaver
I can't see any smoke stack or anything unusual at all.

Where is it?
rohnds
QUOTE ("Papaver")
I can't see any smoke stack or anything unusual at all.

Image from the article,
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Rohn
AtomicDog
I found this so-called classified photo in five minutes.

AS08-14-2393
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From the Apollo Image Atlas.



Bad Astronomy page on the "smokestack"
Papaver
QUOTE (rohnds @ Dec 1 2007, 11:13 PM) *
Image from the article,
linked-image

Rohn


That is a little unusual I must admit. Why does what appears to be a shadow appear in only a couple of frames?
rohnds
QUOTE ("AtomicDog")
I found this so-called classified photo in five minutes.

AS08-14-2393

Like I stated, that was the photo posted on BA. Does that match the photo used by NOVA?

Rohn
AtomicDog
QUOTE (rohnds @ Dec 2 2007, 04:55 AM) *
Like I stated, that was the photo posted on BA. Does that match the photo used by NOVA?

Rohn


How could I find this photo if it was classified?
the_UNKNOWN_DEAD
QUOTE (rohnds @ Dec 1 2007, 03:07 PM) *
This thread isn't about the so called smoke stack but why classification of the image and "footage".


There is no "footage" to classify as the Nova show zoomed in on a still image creating the effect of movement, and the still image is not classified (as has been covered by AtomicDog.)

Anything else??

louie
I dont see a smole stack, could you send me a still.
Pericynthion
QUOTE (rohnds @ Dec 2 2007, 02:55 AM) *
Like I stated, that was the photo posted on BA. Does that match the photo used by NOVA?

Rohn

As AtomicDog said, the photo in question is definitely AS08-14-2393. You can easily request a very high resolution raw scan of this photo directly from NASA at the Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth. It's not even remotely classified.

Here's a reduced-size version of AS08-14-2393 from that site. I've rotated the photo to match the NOVA orientation and have adjusted the color and contrast:
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Here's a crop from the full-resolution scan of the area shown in the NOVA clip:
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And here's a side-by-side comparison with a still from the NOVA clip at similar resolution:
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This is definitely the photo used by NOVA.
AtomicDog
It looks to me like NOVA took a paper copy of this photo (a very poor copy, btw) and made an animation of it by photographing the still, zooming in slightly, and photographing it again until you have an "animated" sequence (note that from beginning to end, there is no advancement in orbital motion - a clear sign that this the same photo shown repeatedly.)

If this is the case, the "smokestack" was probably a piece of lint that was caught in the glass plate that was used in the copystand to hold the original paper copy down. Anyone familiar with copying old photographs knows what I am talking about.
DukeofNoodleness
I see what you're talking about but I really do not think it's anything major. Like people said, a spek. That's it.
belial
I agree with the reasoning behind the lint idea, but as i looked at this image i zoomed in because i noticed this face, well two if you look real close.
Are these lint or are they model makers reflections?
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AtomicDog
No, it's called weather. Clouds do that sometimes.

Think of it like a giant bunny in the clouds.
DieChecker
I'm going to have to agree that it was probably something added during the animation sequence. Maybe a smudge.

My first thought was maybe it was a puff of dust from a meteroite impact. That might make a small column with a shadow.
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