ancientWV
Dec 5 2007, 06:26 AM
I have collected many of these very complex artifacts over the last 3 years including 2 VENUS artifacts which are the first ever discovered in the Americas.I am sure this historical Archaeological discovery is one of the most important not only in The Americas but the World.The artifacts surely show proof of a advanced ancient civilization and I am convinced the artifacts not only show the origins of Egypt but all Pyramid building civilizations. The strange multi dimensional metal artifacts match exactly to Paleolithic artifacts of Europe and other parts of the world. I beleive this discovery has been totaly ignored by local authorities because of the large scale construction projects in the area.I recently contacted WV Senator Rockefellers office and I was told to contact local authorities and the Smithsonian which I had already done but I did again but no one has ever contacted me. Why is such a great historical discovery with overwhelming evidence and artifacts unlike any ever found be ignored without explanation.I have now began to search for a investor who would like to become part owner of this collection with part of the funds to be used for C14 and other testing so this collection can be brought to the world stage.I am convinced these artifacts will unlock many mysteries of the origins of art and religion and will prove to be among the oldest artifacts in the world.You can view many of these artifacts at
Visit My Website You surely do not have to agree with my Theory but you must admit the artifacts are strange,advanced and complex.If you know of a college,university or archaeology organization who will examine and test the artifacts please inform me.
Stellar
Dec 5 2007, 06:38 AM
Im no expert in artifacts, but I have trouble seeing how those are for sure artifacts. Could they not just be rock formations? Hell, I'm not sure that one even has any sort of script on it, it may just be scratches.
The Sandman
Dec 5 2007, 07:00 AM
I have noticed that the gentleman is going into the same rut of mixing everything together!
The stones which he says has AKHNATEN's face and the stone where says has multiple symbols look just like stones..thats all.
The ica stones have been proven to be a fake/hoax!
Correct me if i am wrong!
Joe013
Dec 5 2007, 07:56 AM
draconic chronicler
Dec 5 2007, 11:13 AM
I am a metal detectorist too, and have done a great deal of this when stationed in Europe. Most of your artifacts look like early colonial objects of lead or pewter that may have been destroyed in a fire. For example a decorated pewter spoon might melt enough to no longer resemble a spoon, but still have the enough man-made details to look like an artifact.
You should be able to have the metal analysed, but I expect it will all turn out to be lead, and pewter, an alloy of largely tin and lead. These metal could be found in native american contexts as well. The natives coveted the early muskets which used lead balls. When melted in fires, these ball, and the bars they were made from can assume all kinds of wild shapes and appear as some kind of unusual artifact.
There is some evidence of both Roman and Celtic traces in the Americas as well, and they also used these metal, so it is possible the artifacts could be ancient, but not neccesaarily alien or supernatural.
But good luck in your searches. You should eventually find something in this area that will positively date the site, such as a coin.
Armor Plated
Dec 5 2007, 12:18 PM
Wow...
Isn't this kind of...
Reaching for the moon?
The Sandman
Dec 5 2007, 12:22 PM
ditto!
Essan
Dec 5 2007, 12:36 PM
So, what context were these 'artifacts' found in? Presumably you carefully photographed and recorded the excavation?
You really ought to write up a full detailed report of the excavation!
The Sandman
Dec 5 2007, 12:58 PM
QUOTE (Essan @ Dec 5 2007, 04:36 PM)

So, what context were these 'artifacts' found in? Presumably you carefully photographed and recorded the excavation?
You really ought to write up a full detailed report of the excavation!
essan check out the linky he gave in his post!
i assure you, you will have a good time reading it! beeter than tv!
capeo
Dec 5 2007, 01:39 PM
Hmmm, rocks and pewter. Obviously the mark of some long lost unknown ancient culture.
That or the mark of normal geological activity and post colonisation trash.
Lux Felix
Dec 5 2007, 02:56 PM
QUOTE (ancientWV @ Dec 5 2007, 06:26 AM)

I have collected many of these very complex artifacts over the last 3 years including 2 VENUS artifacts which are the first ever discovered in the Americas.I am sure this historical Archaeological discovery is one of the most important not only in The Americas but the World.The artifacts surely show proof of a advanced ancient civilization and I am convinced the artifacts not only show the origins of Egypt but all Pyramid building civilizations. The strange multi dimensional metal artifacts match exactly to Paleolithic artifacts of Europe and other parts of the world. I beleive this discovery has been totaly ignored by local authorities because of the large scale construction projects in the area.I recently contacted WV Senator Rockefellers office and I was told to contact local authorities and the Smithsonian which I had already done but I did again but no one has ever contacted me. Why is such a great historical discovery with overwhelming evidence and artifacts unlike any ever found be ignored without explanation.I have now began to search for a investor who would like to become part owner of this collection with part of the funds to be used for C14 and other testing so this collection can be brought to the world stage.I am convinced these artifacts will unlock many mysteries of the origins of art and religion and will prove to be among the oldest artifacts in the world.You can view many of these artifacts at
Visit My Website You surely do not have to agree with my Theory but you must admit the artifacts are strange,advanced and complex.If you know of a college,university or archaeology organization who will examine and test the artifacts please inform me.
well you have a really good fantasy my friend
tipsy_munchkin
Dec 5 2007, 03:03 PM
If you really really want something to be there you will see it anything. Perhaps take a step back and look at your finds a little more subjectively.
jaylemurph
Dec 5 2007, 04:30 PM
What is it, "Transparent Pseudo-Historical Claims Week" on UM?
Hell, I just found three lost plays by Shakespeare, a stuffed tiger in a block of marble and a note in Modern English that describes a pre-Atlantean Lizard-Man city called "George."
What should I do?!
--Jaylemurph
Harte
Dec 5 2007, 05:12 PM
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Dec 5 2007, 10:30 AM)

What is it, "Transparent Pseudo-Historical Claims Week" on UM?
Hell, I just found three lost plays by Shakespeare, a stuffed tiger in a block of marble and a note in Modern English that describes a pre-Atlantean Lizard-Man city called "George."
What should I do?!
--Jaylemurph
Yeah, and my plans are almost complete for the invasion I will launch next week....
I'm going to take over the couch/world.
Basset Hounds be warned!
Harte
evancj
Dec 5 2007, 06:42 PM
Sorry all I see is melted lumps of metal and rock.
You should listen to the pros, they have no reason to steer you wrong.
Try doing some research on the site you found these objects, and you might find it use to be some kind of smelter or metal works shop.
kerkinana walsky
Dec 5 2007, 06:59 PM
oooh anomalous lumps of stone claimed to be proof of biblical references
where have we seen this before
ah yes I remember
http://www.impactoptics.com/maybe you two should get together, that would cut the amount of everyones time you waste in half
jaylemurph
Dec 5 2007, 07:48 PM
QUOTE (kerkinana walsky @ Dec 5 2007, 01:59 PM)

oooh anomalous lumps of stone claimed to be proof of biblical references
where have we seen this before
ah yes I remember
http://www.impactoptics.com/maybe you two should get together, that would cut the amount of everyones time you waste in half

No, no, no. See, I -- and I alone -- am the only one, ever, to correctly understand my findings. All other sciences and histories are just wrong. My relics of the city of George will TOTALLY RE-WRITE history and MAKE ALL OTHER SCIENCE OBSOLETE.
I don't know what the OP is pitching, but since it isn't mine, it MUST BE incorrect and anyone who disagrees must be a simpering troglodyte who probably still uses punch cards.
--Jaylemurph
avs76
Dec 5 2007, 08:09 PM
What is WV - West Virginia? Don't assume that everyone in the world knows the abbreviations for American States.
tipsy_munchkin
Dec 5 2007, 08:45 PM
QUOTE (avs76 @ Dec 5 2007, 08:09 PM)

What is WV - West Virginia? Don't assume that everyone in the world knows the abbreviations for American States.
yeh i always get caught out by that. I am very easily confused
gaia227
Dec 5 2007, 09:36 PM
Um, assuming you are being serious about this I feel bad for all the negative comments about something you have obviously put a lot of time and thought into but......have you considered taking some classes in geology, metalogy, archaeology so you can have a better understanding of what you are finding? As a anthropology/archaeology student I would have to saw it looks like you have found some pewter, lead and/or metal objects which are left over from colonial era settlers(WV-makes sense), Native Americans and 'modern' day scraps. Some of the pics you had posted looked like Native American tools for cutting hide from bone and other various activites of the sort. The ones with the 'mysterious symbols' looks very much like what lead looks like when it is melted down and cooled. It seems like I saw one pic in there that looked like a rock with deep grooves in it - the natives would often carry a stone and even pass it down generation to generation they used to sharpen their weapons and after years of use it would have a series of deep groves in it.
Also - the ICCA stones were proven to be a hoax.
If you are close to a university, visit the Anthropology Dept ask where their archaeology lab is and they will probably look at them for you, test them and try to date them.
Just a few things to consider. Good luck......
ThePitOfReason
Dec 14 2007, 06:12 AM
I have run up on this site a few times the last couple of years. I must say I cant see anything in his claims. Sorry
Bokonontheancient
Dec 14 2007, 07:01 AM
I must say you are wasting your time with these "artifacts". They mostly just look like smoldered bits of iron or another metal. The shapes are random and it is farfetched to assume they depict anything we know of at all. Also as Essan said, you need to properly excavate at a site by mapping the site as well as making a detailed day by day excavation report, and take pictures. I have no idea where you made the connection between the "artifacts" you found and Akenaten and the Bible, or any civilization at all. These objects to me don't really look like anything but twisted metal. You are clearly mistaken in your conclusions regarding the authenticity of these objects as "artifacts". You should take the anthropologist's word for it, they are "geofacts". I suggest you read up a little more into history, and find something else to do with your time.
- Regards, Bokonon
Discordian
Dec 14 2007, 07:08 AM
This is akin to seeing the face of the Virgin Mary in a slice of toast. Of course religions and beliefs have been founded on less reality.
Blueguardian
Dec 14 2007, 08:39 AM
no offece but your website screams out i want you to buy into this more then, i have discovered something, and there is no hard evidence about it, i dont know what to think. (i would love to see a moderators opinion)

, its like your advitising, im sorry but thats how it looks.
i come here for a few reasons, to learn to give my opinion, to read other peoples opinion ( < just a few) not to be talked into investing money into some collection of fossils or melted metal, even if they are real.
dethstalker
Dec 15 2007, 07:12 AM
There is nothing I like more than a self proclaimed...everything. Not even qualified to date nor explain such objects, yet he knows exactly what they are and how they connect to Biblical texts. I'm a person of faith, and if those objects had some spiritual significance for you well then that's great, but I'm not buying it. I want to see hard facts from credible sources, not assumptions. Here's my example of a self proclaimed everything:
"Oh yeah, I'm a martial artist."
"Really? How long have you been training?"
"Well, I trained for like three years, but then I had to quit," he says while giving some excuses for his eternal absence. "I'm going to go back next month once I get my money together, but they say I have the mind of a black belt even though I'm only a yellow belt."
Next month comes and goes and he never attends... this goes on for several years.
I know we all know someone like that, they act and talk like they have it but they don't have the qualifications to back it.
Ozi
Dec 15 2007, 04:41 PM
Dude i went to your website pretty interesting, but, i was a bit short on time to check it fully indepth.
most of skeptos wont be interested in this, either they will take the piss on real grounds, and when they can understand something or fathom it, they reject it outright.
i suggest, you take them to historians and other experts and get them dated etc, and then bring back their conclusions to the table, then if they have problem with it, they will have to refute on an intelectual basis, which most of them here cant do.
jaylemurph
Dec 15 2007, 05:55 PM
QUOTE (Ozi @ Dec 15 2007, 11:41 AM)

Dude i went to your website pretty interesting, but, i was a bit short on time to check it fully indepth.
most of skeptos wont be interested in this, either they will take the piss on real grounds, and when they can understand something or fathom it, they reject it outright.
i suggest, you take them to historians and other experts and get them dated etc, and then bring back their conclusions to the table, then if they have problem with it, they will have to refute on an intelectual basis, which most of them here cant do.
But I thought all historians were in a giant collaboration to hide things like this!
--Jaylemurph
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Dec 15 2007, 06:02 PM
QUOTE (capeo @ Dec 5 2007, 07:39 AM)

Hmmm, rocks and pewter. Obviously the mark of some long lost unknown ancient culture.
That or the mark of normal geological activity and post colonisation trash.
SoCrazes
Dec 15 2007, 07:15 PM
West Virginia - home of the "Moth Man Prophecies" and now Pangaea?
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