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Gazz
If all that there is in this massive universe was
once crammed into a single point in space
smaller than a single atom.

And then with the Big Bang all that we know to
exist came to be.

But all that is, is also expanding and will one
day slow to stop and then contract back to
that point smaller than an atom then BANG!
it all happens again.

Maybe we have all been here before, many
many times.

Thoughts anyone?

Gazz
Fluffybunny
Stephen Hawking thinks that may well be the case...
PoisonedEternity
Sounds liek it could be very likely and believable. Nice theory.
Nxt2Hvn
Uhhhh..

No..... blink.gif ... dontgetit.gif ..... huh.gif ..... cool.gif
KayEl
Well, the Big Bang is just a theory.
So the universe is expanding, that doesn't prove anything other than the fact that it is expanding.
Althalus
According top a number of mythologies, we have all been here before and will be returning for eternity after the universe has been destroyed.

Hindu myth:

Kalki will come as the last avatar of Vishnu and destroy the world with fire and flood


Scandanavian myth:

Ragnarok, the gods and the frost giants fight, fenrir eats the sun, and the world ends.


Toltec myth:

There are a number of world ages, the first one ended in a flood, and so on.

All these myths say that the world will end in destruction and that it will carry on in a new cycle for eternity.
Fluffybunny
QUOTE (KayEl @ Jan 26 2004, 10:39 AM)
Well, the Big Bang is just a theory.
So the universe is expanding, that doesn't prove anything other than the fact that it is expanding.

Ahhh...but it does.

Ask yourself this; if it is expanding, where did it start?
Nxt2Hvn
QUOTE (fluffybunny @ Jan 26 2004, 08:06 PM)


Ask yourself this; if it is expanding, where did it start?

Uh.. I dunno... a spec of space dust maybe??? wacko.gif

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<I really try to not be a smart a$$) laugh.gif grin2.gif
Fluffybunny
QUOTE (Nxt2Hvn @ Jan 26 2004, 12:09 PM)
Uh.. I dunno... a spec of space dust maybe??? wacko.gif


Hey wow, kind of like the Big Bang theory... imagine that...

You said it yourself... tongue.gif
Xenojjin
I find steven hawkings "theory" that we infinitly repeat our lives to be a bit far fetched , and as it stands it is somewhat more of a hypothesis then a theory ... as far as I know its untested .
Fluffybunny
I haven't read that Hawkings theory had anything to do with our own personal lives, but that it was mathmatically possible for the Big Bang/Big Crunch theory to be possible.

If he said something about our lives being repeated, I would like to read it. Do you have a link?

Thanks
LittleIrishVampiress
is it really possible for the universe to have no actual size? is it poss that the universe is a web like structure, all connected, or a series of realities over lapping each other so that when it seemed we would come to a dead end we'd just blend into another dimension or over lap it?

i kinda like that idea. anyone else think its poss?
Homer
The Big Crunch is an old thoery, and one I don't believe in personally.
Dark Energy will need to be put in check before the universe can stop expanding and start contracting.
cP-BlindRival
I think you all should listen to this song...I'll list the name of the band and song


Modest Mouse - 3rd Planet


it's a really good song and the wording really makes sense.
Universal Absurdity
i have read another theory which incorporates a kind of big bang.

empty space is much like a vaccum, its empty, there is however energy in this empty space. any given point of empty space will always have the same amount of energy. but the universe is expanding (both proven by science)
so why does the energy not dissepate due to its expansion? because of tension. space expands the vaccum pulls , and energy is replaced into the vaccum

the expansion of the universe is accellerating. so- faster expansion =more energy=bigger vaccum. but how much tension can the vaccum take?
given enough tension anything can snap.
what happens when you have a snap that big? well its probably more like a bang, and it is theorized that this snap could force the energy in the vaccum of space to form matter. (there is much more to the theory , including a varying speed of light)

this theory eliminates the need for the inflation theory, which causes more problems than it solved, by casually placing all matter in the universe relatively uniform.

the only reason that current big bang theories have everything coming form a small point , is because of the 'light bottleneck' the further you look back the narrower the field of light gets, presumptiously, to a point smaller than an atom.

i hope , if nothing else, this post made you question the validity of big bang theories you may have heard and or believe.

nothing is certain, there is always a greater truth
treznor72
ok
dantheman2435
O.K. if the before the univerese there was nothing, how exactly does something come from nothing?

also if there was nothing how would nothing exist?

I've gone crosseyed...... wacko.gif
Talon
QUOTE
O.K. if the before the univerese there was nothing, how exactly does something come from nothing?

also if there was nothing how would nothing exist?

I've gone crosseyed...... 


If your trying to argue that God had to be there to create everything, I got the same question for you, where did he come from?
notcuriousenough
QUOTE (KayEl @ Jan 26 2004, 08:39 PM)
Hmm okay well if Penrose's singularity theory can be reversed as Haking did to propose the big bang theory then anything is possible

The only limit is our imagination

But this is indeed a severe limitation as we can not imagine what we can not imagine

It could all be just one big illusion anyway

Things could be anything we wish them to be. We just need a theory

Every thing only exists in the mind anyway, if no sentient beings are there to percieve of anything, how can anything exist

The universe may have been there before man but it didn't exist until it was percieved by man

It is man that is the catalyst in the quest for the truth but by our own intervention we are distorting the truth, creating our own version of it

We can never know the absolute truth about anything as there are no absolutes
no meaning just particles in space

The apparant meaning is the illusion


just a few ideas thrown in for good measure    get things going  feel free to slag me off

or tell me I' m a genius    ha  ha


Hmm okay well if Penrose's singularity theory can be reversed as Haking did to propose the big bang theory then anything is possible

The only limit is our imagination

But this is indeed a severe limitation as we can not imagine what we can not imagine

It could all be just one big illusion anyway

Things could be anything we wish them to be. We just need a theory

Every thing only exists in the mind anyway, if no sentient beings are there to percieve of anything, how can anything exist

The universe may have been there before man but it didn't exist until it was percieved by man

It is man that is the catalyst in the quest for the truth but by our own intervention we are distorting the truth, creating our own version of it

We can never know the absolute truth about anything as there are no absolutes
no meaning just particles in space

The apparant meaning is the illusion


just a few ideas thrown in for good measure get things going feel free to slag me off

or tell me I' m a genius ha ha

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Q-La
http://web.uvic.ca/~jtwong/index.html?CFID...081086829757753

t1) Hey this is a piece metal
t2) This is a time-keeping device!
t3) Hey the parts inside are intricate - wow that's how all these bits inside fit together
t4) How do these parts look like before they look like this?



......
tx) Hey I see that being making the watch!
Dont think we can really get to that stage^
What's the earliest phase we will be able to know based on deduction, extrapolation and backtracing of evidence?
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