What was the lifespan of an ancient?
Did the ancients prefer baby teeth?
Were ancient open mouths round?
Phase III a prayer for new teeth?
Altar Stone speaking one tongue?
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Did ancients ever have toothaches?
What was the lifespan of an ancient?
Did the ancients prefer baby teeth?
Were ancient open mouths round?
Phase III a prayer for new teeth?
Altar Stone speaking one tongue?
G-D
What was the lifespan of an ancient?
Did the ancients prefer baby teeth?
Were ancient open mouths round?
Phase III a prayer for new teeth?
Altar Stone speaking one tongue?
G-D
Hey thats pretty neat. Im sure they got toothaches. However, I doubt they were due to alot of cavities as they probably didn't eat a lot of candies 
Otherwise, I couldn't imagine how they would deal with the pain of abcesses etc. OUCH!
Otherwise, I couldn't imagine how they would deal with the pain of abcesses etc. OUCH!
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However, I doubt they were due to alot of cavities as they probably didn't eat a lot of candies Otherwise, I couldn't imagine how they would deal with the pain of abcesses etc. OUCH!
Interesting. of course, tooth decay comes from things other than candies. What I thought was noteworthy was the theory about our wisdom teeth, which usually come in around our early 20's and cause a lot of problems and have to be surgically removed. Seems like an evolutionary mistake, eh?
Well, in Zoology class we learned a theory that they are a holdover from when we had bigger jaws, and also that by age 18 or so we would have lost at least a few teeth. At that point, our wisdom teeth start to descent, pushing our other teeth back together and giving us a few more years of "chewing" ability.
Interesting idea, eh?
Interesting Idea Gerry! Are you saying that ancient peoples set up these Henges to help with dental health? Interesting.
Strangely, I never grew any Wisdom teeth. I'm almost 40 now, so I don't think they will show up at all. Does that make me genetically more advanced, less advanced or just a mutant?
Strangely, I never grew any Wisdom teeth. I'm almost 40 now, so I don't think they will show up at all. Does that make me genetically more advanced, less advanced or just a mutant?
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Strangely, I never grew any Wisdom teeth. I'm almost 40 now, so I don't think they will show up at all.
You almost definitely have them, they just didn't descend. I'm 34, and mine haven't descended either. We're pretty lucky, I think. In fact, they are up in my jaw sideways. The dentist wants to take them out, but they might not ever move on their own, so I told him to take a hike. Why do a surgery to prevent something that might never happen, when you can just do the surgery IF it happens anyway?
WOW!!!! This is the first time that I have ever seen a theory about stonehenge like this....This is great. I wonder if this has validity in the ancient world.....GREAT THINKING
QUOTE (Neognosis @ Dec 12 2007, 04:20 PM) 
You almost definitely have them, they just didn't descend. I'm 34, and mine haven't descended either. We're pretty lucky, I think. In fact, they are up in my jaw sideways. The dentist wants to take them out, but they might not ever move on their own, so I told him to take a hike. Why do a surgery to prevent something that might never happen, when you can just do the surgery IF it happens anyway?
Mine have never appeared either.
I don't blame you for saying no to the Dentist, "if its not broken, don't fix it" - it could have caused you more trouble than you would have had if they had been left alone for sure!
Ironically, lots of people whose wisdom teeth do appear seem to have a lot of trouble and end up having them removed anyway, I guess maybe, there isn't enough rooms in our jaws for them.
I wonder what they were originally meant for?
Yes they did and they had medicine men or women who try to fix them, but they didn't have really good pain killers back then. Can you imagine having your sore tooth drilled with a stone drill without something for pain. I shudder to think about it.
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Ancient Origins
Toothbrush fashioned from a tree branch
5000 BC—A Sumerian text of this date describes “tooth worms” as the cause of dental decay.
2600 BC—Death of Hesy-Re, an Egyptian scribe, often called the first “dentist.” An inscription on his tomb includes the title “the greatest of those who deal with teeth, and of physicians.” This is the earliest known reference to a person identified as a dental practitioner.
1700-1550 BC—An Egyptian text, the Ebers Papyrus, refers to diseases of the teeth and various toothache remedies.
500-300 BC—Hippocrates and Aristotle write about dentistry, including the eruption pattern of teeth, treating decayed teeth and gum disease, extracting teeth with forceps, and using wires to stabilize loose teeth and fractured jaws.
100 BC—Celsus, a Roman medical writer, writes extensively in his important compendium of medicine on oral hygiene, stabilization of loose teeth, and treatments for toothache, teething pain, and jaw fractures.
166-201 AD—The Etruscans practice dental prosthetics using gold crowns and fixed bridgework.
http://www.ada.org/public/resources/histor...ine_ancient.asp
Toothbrush fashioned from a tree branch
5000 BC—A Sumerian text of this date describes “tooth worms” as the cause of dental decay.
2600 BC—Death of Hesy-Re, an Egyptian scribe, often called the first “dentist.” An inscription on his tomb includes the title “the greatest of those who deal with teeth, and of physicians.” This is the earliest known reference to a person identified as a dental practitioner.
1700-1550 BC—An Egyptian text, the Ebers Papyrus, refers to diseases of the teeth and various toothache remedies.
500-300 BC—Hippocrates and Aristotle write about dentistry, including the eruption pattern of teeth, treating decayed teeth and gum disease, extracting teeth with forceps, and using wires to stabilize loose teeth and fractured jaws.
100 BC—Celsus, a Roman medical writer, writes extensively in his important compendium of medicine on oral hygiene, stabilization of loose teeth, and treatments for toothache, teething pain, and jaw fractures.
166-201 AD—The Etruscans practice dental prosthetics using gold crowns and fixed bridgework.
http://www.ada.org/public/resources/histor...ine_ancient.asp
QUOTE (Neognosis @ Dec 12 2007, 08:20 AM)
You almost definitely have them, they just didn't descend. I'm 34, and mine haven't descended either. We're pretty lucky, I think. In fact, they are up in my jaw sideways. The dentist wants to take them out, but they might not ever move on their own, so I told him to take a hike. Why do a surgery to prevent something that might never happen, when you can just do the surgery IF it happens anyway?
I have a little jaw, and my wisdom teeth were impacted on the bottom, I had to get them out. They pushed all my other teeth out of whack and caused horrible headaches. You are very lucky, Neo. I had no choice.
QUOTE (Neognosis @ Dec 12 2007, 08:20 AM)
You almost definitely have them, they just didn't descend. I'm 34, and mine haven't descended either. We're pretty lucky, I think. In fact, they are up in my jaw sideways. The dentist wants to take them out, but they might not ever move on their own, so I told him to take a hike. Why do a surgery to prevent something that might never happen, when you can just do the surgery IF it happens anyway?
Nope. They never grew in and the x-rays are clear. No teeth there.
I had to have my wisdom teeth removed they didn't fully grow in right and were stuck like under my gums and hurt like hell it sucked.
Not so long ago I've read an article pointing out that tooth decay was accelerated by including grains, or overwhelmingly eating grains, in the diet when humans became sedentary.
Makes sense because the amount of unbound sugar and starch tripled or even quadrupled from that in the previous diets, and unbound sugar and starch is what caries causing bacteria feed off (they take in sugar/starch and release acids that harm the teeth).
(I think the article was in Nature, but don't quote me on that)
Makes sense because the amount of unbound sugar and starch tripled or even quadrupled from that in the previous diets, and unbound sugar and starch is what caries causing bacteria feed off (they take in sugar/starch and release acids that harm the teeth).
(I think the article was in Nature, but don't quote me on that)
QUOTE (DieChecker @ Dec 12 2007, 10:00 AM)
Interesting idea Garry! Are you saying that ancient peoples set up these henges to help with dental health? Interesting.
Archaeologists claim these henges are the remains of failed coal exploration sites. The henges were orientated towards the Sun for maximum daywork light they say. No coal production was ever found at the Stonehenge wildcat prospect of course. It was abandoned as the other coal failures were with no reclamation of the land. "Earth Mother and Sun Father" worshippers utilised it much later for dental prayer. The head diseases which plagued all of the elders were gum disease and tooth decay. Periodontal infection of the gums is still the cause of over 70 percent of tooth loss. The movie Cast Away shows extreme measures a toothache will drive people to. Anyone else cringe when Hanks used a skateblade to knock out his infected tooth?
QUOTE (DieChecker @ Dec 12 2007, 10:00 AM)
Strangely, I never grew any Wisdom teeth. I'm almost 40 now, so I don't think they will show up at all. Does that make me genetically more advanced, less advanced or just a mutant?
Only my two lower ones were impacted. I am happy all four of them were not.
QUOTE (ravergirl @ Dec 12 2007, 11:59 AM)
WOW!!!! This is the first time that I have ever seen a theory about Stonehenge like this....This is great. I wonder if this has validity in the ancient world.....GREAT THINKING
Compare elder bluestones prayer (see above).
Bluestones innermost feature (see above).
Wilson! Merry Christmas!
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I wonder what they were originally meant for?
to replace teeth that fell out from decay and close up any resulting gaps, would be my guess.
Just crossed my mind how incredibly funny it would be if stonehenge was a simple dental chart. ALL the theories
QUOTE (ravergirl @ Dec 17 2007, 02:20 PM)
Just crossed my mind how incredibly funny it would be if Stonehenge was a simple dental chart. ALL the theories
Rock solid dental chart
Younger Cainozoic (Cenozoic Era) Sarsens
Elder Palaeozoic (Paleozoic Era) Bluestones
G-D
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