UtahRaptor
Dec 6 2007, 09:52 AM
20 minutes ago I recieved word from my brother's, coworker's, son who works for the government. There is a fossilized animal that has been found a few days ago perhapse in Arizona being excavated that breaks all records. As of yet only part of the skull and neck has been uncovered. The skull alone is calculated to be about 30 feet high, 60 feet long and 20 feet wide. Now if you are to use a tyranosaur as a size model this creature can be up to 200 feet long or larger. Body length alone without the tail can be as massive as 180 feet long. From nose to tail the whole creature perhapse being 250 feet +. Of coarse my guesses could be wrong. This could concievable crunch a T-rex and slurp it down as easily as we can do with pasta. I do not know when this news will be released to the rest of the world or even if it will considering it breaks all cosceptual reality of animals on Earth. It simply does not belong here at all. I am assuming that this would be a carnavore of unreal power, weight and size. Unfortunatly I have no further information since it is 3rd hand info. There is a chance that it may not even be real, but considering this is my brother I have heard this from I highly doubt its a fake. He is as serious about accumulateing factual knowledge as I am. I will be getting more on this in another few days. Hopefully I will get a copy of the original E-mail and perhapse a few pictures. I will create another thread when I have gathered more info if any of you are at all interested. To me this little scrap of info is earthshattering and very exciting. I can't wait to hear more of this animal.
bball
Dec 6 2007, 10:07 AM
QUOTE (UtahRaptor @ Dec 6 2007, 03:52 AM)

20 minutes ago I recieved word from my brother's, coworker's, son who works for the government. There is a fossilized animal that has been found a few days ago perhapse in Arizona being excavated that breaks all records. As of yet only part of the skull and neck has been uncovered. The skull alone is calculated to be about 30 feet high, 60 feet long and 20 feet wide. Now if you are to use a tyranosaur as a size model this creature can be up to 200 feet long or larger. Body length alone without the tail can be as massive as 180 feet long. From nose to tail the whole creature perhapse being 250 feet +. Of coarse my guesses could be wrong. This could concievable crunch a T-rex and slurp it down as easily as we can do with pasta. I do not know when this news will be released to the rest of the world or even if it will considering it breaks all cosceptual reality of animals on Earth. It simply does not belong here at all. I am assuming that this would be a carnavore of unreal power, weight and size. Unfortunatly I have no further information since it is 3rd hand info. There is a chance that it may not even be real, but considering this is my brother I have heard this from I highly doubt its a fake. He is as serious about accumulateing factual knowledge as I am. I will be getting more on this in another few days. Hopefully I will get a copy of the original E-mail and perhapse a few pictures. I will create another thread when I have gathered more info if any of you are at all interested. To me this little scrap of info is earthshattering and very exciting. I can't wait to hear more of this animal.
Wait so the skull is supposedly 60 feet long? I don't know about that. And you say the government is the one discovering this. Since when does the government concern itself with paleontology? And what do you mean PERHAPS in Arizona? Don't they know where they were working? LOL! This sounds a bit silly and far-fetched. No offense.
The_Scorpion
Dec 6 2007, 10:08 AM
Brother's coworker's son? That's how pretty much all urban legends start......
NoahJaymes
Dec 6 2007, 10:29 AM
Yeah...Im sure it would have been in the news by now anyway. Any discovery of that magnitude would hit the AP in a matter of 10 minutes and on Yahoo or other various news related sites in 11.
telirium
Dec 6 2007, 10:32 AM
and this thing was, of course, buried on top of atlantis right?
UtahRaptor
Dec 6 2007, 10:33 AM
I thought I had made myself clear. I shall say it in plain English. I do not have all the info yet. This is 3rd hand info. I will clearify everything in a few days when I have the full story hopefully including pictures.
My apologies for not stateing in the first place how this does make the brain wonder and crank. Thus it's intention....
True urban legends do start in such ways
NoahJaymes
Dec 6 2007, 10:57 AM
Well, normally if someone were to post some news on the forums, as the mods also suggest, post with links, otherwise we can clearly say this is the beginning of an urban legend.
Which means you should have waited till the AP got ahold of it. What else do you expect from ppl with an outrageous claim of a skull being more than 30ft high and 60ft in length
MUM24/7
Dec 6 2007, 11:36 AM
QUOTE (UtahRaptor @ Dec 6 2007, 09:33 PM)

I thought I had made myself clear. I shall say it in plain English. I do not have all the info yet. This is 3rd hand info. I will clearify everything in a few days when I have the full story hopefully including pictures.
My apologies for not stateing in the first place how this does make the brain wonder and crank. Thus it's intention....
True urban legends do start in such ways
You mean you need time to 'manufacture' these supposed pictures ?? I'll be waiting with baited breath......
Mad Manfred
Dec 6 2007, 11:51 AM
My nephews sister's ex-wife's son's uncle's grandfather's auntie (who happens to be a gynecologist) said that the largestest animal was diskovered 20 years ago in a place perhaps around or slightly nearby Tennessee.
So thar.
NatalieK
Dec 6 2007, 11:56 AM
QUOTE (MUM24/7 @ Dec 6 2007, 10:36 PM)

You mean you need time to 'manufacture' these supposed pictures ?? I'll be waiting with baited breath......

*closes photoshop* damn, now what am I suppose to do with my spare time?

Maybe you're having your leg pulled UtahRaptor. I'll reserve judgement on whether you're pulling ours... for now
Raptor
Dec 6 2007, 12:03 PM
QUOTE (UtahRaptor @ Dec 6 2007, 09:52 AM)

This could concievable crunch a T-rex and slurp it down as easily as we can do with pasta. I do not know when this news will be released to the rest of the world or even if it will considering it breaks all cosceptual reality of animals on Earth. It simply does not belong here at all. I am assuming that this would be a carnavore of unreal power, weight and size.
Actually any animal that large would probably be a marine herbivore. If it were a carnivore it would have to hunt and successfully catch every animal it ever came across...
Repoman
Dec 6 2007, 12:10 PM
QUOTE (Raptor X7 @ Dec 6 2007, 07:03 AM)

Actually any animal that large would probably be a marine herbivore. If it were a carnivore it would have to hunt and successfully catch every animal it ever came across...
Not to mention the fact that it wouldn't even be able to stand up. He is, basically, describing Godzilla. It is
{frigging} ridiculous. But I don't know if he is playing us for fools or if someone played
him for a fool.
Repoman
Dec 6 2007, 12:14 PM
QUOTE (UtahRaptor @ Dec 6 2007, 05:33 AM)

I shall say it in plain English. This is 3rd hand info.
You also said "in plain english":
QUOTE
20 minutes ago I recieved word from my brother's, coworker's, son who works for the government
And that would make it 1st hand info. Otherwise you would have said "20 minutes ago I received word from my brother who had heard from his coworker who had heard from his son that secret goverment agents had discovered Godzilla".
QUOTE (UtahRaptor @ Dec 6 2007, 05:33 AM)

True urban legends do start in such ways
Well, consider this one nipped in the bud.
Primeval
Dec 6 2007, 12:19 PM
Aren't you the guy who said he found Atlantis? Are you like a chronic liar?
Eric Raven The Skeptic
Dec 6 2007, 04:45 PM
QUOTE (UtahRaptor @ Dec 6 2007, 04:33 AM)

I thought I had made myself clear. I shall say it in plain English. I do not have all the info yet. This is 3rd hand info. I will clearify everything in a few days when I have the full story hopefully including pictures.
My apologies for not stateing in the first place how this does make the brain wonder and crank. Thus it's intention....
True urban legends do start in such ways
Then right now it is pretty much just a story. A tease.

QUOTE (Primeval @ Dec 6 2007, 06:19 AM)

Aren't you the guy who said he found Atlantis? Are you like a chronic liar?
Shiloh
Dec 6 2007, 11:00 PM
O.K Guys, enough with the jokes. I found the skull picture.
Click to view attachment
MUM24/7
Dec 6 2007, 11:11 PM
raoulduke666
Dec 6 2007, 11:32 PM
Yea you need to get more information on that. Remember this is a Paranormal site so without proof, everyone is gonna think your full of...well you know. Hell, even if you do get proof I guarantee alot of people still aren't gonna believe you unless they see it for themselves. If it is in fact true, I cant wait till you can post some pic's or a website link
~Cheese~
Dec 6 2007, 11:34 PM
The pic doesn't look so
Dog Fish
Dec 8 2007, 05:18 PM
QUOTE (Shiloh @ Dec 6 2007, 06:00 PM)

O.K Guys, enough with the jokes. I found the skull picture.
Click to view attachment 
That has got to be the biggest penny ever
~ MacDDT ~
Dec 8 2007, 05:52 PM
They found one off the coast of Japan before!

Maybe it ate all the other dinosaurs?
DigitalDreamer
Dec 8 2007, 07:01 PM
Nothing that long lives on land,Its improbable/impossible,My sisters,wifes,friends,dogs,ex-husbands,best friends,dentists,wifes kids,dogs,cats,frogs,owls,whales,cookie monsters best firends uncle told me so.
Fluffybunny
Dec 8 2007, 07:08 PM
I am having a hard time with this story...and starting to see a trend too...
The physics of a land animal that large are the problem and have been discussed quite a bit; so I will just have to not hold my breath for this press release as I dont feel we are getting the whole truth...
L33TNerd
Dec 9 2007, 07:00 AM
*slaps forehead*
So now you've got information on a colossal dinosaur, and definitive proof of the location of Atlantis, but....you can't tell us quite yet.
I'm predicting a few more outlandish topics by you soon.
I'm sorry, I know this has been said, but you REALLY need more information before you post topics about finds.
Oh, BTW, I found definitive proof of God, but, uh, I can't quite post it yet.
Torgo
Dec 12 2007, 07:11 AM
A little bit of biophysics shows such a creature is impossible. Mass increases with the cube of linear size... but bone strength and muscle power only increases with the square. Lets do a quick calculation:
A Tyrannosaurus is about 30 feet long and 10 feet high. This alleged "fossil" is 250 feet long. Thats a factor of over 8. Lets assume some adaptations lowering the height of the creature; make it's average linear size a factor of 5 more than the T. Rex.
5 times the linear size means 5*5*5 = 125 the mass.
Bones and muscles the same PROPORTIONAL size would be 5*5 = 25 times the cross-sectional area - meaning they would need to be 5 times as strong per cross sectional area to support this creature's weight.
Assuming bones and muscles the same strength, you would need unworkably wide bones and muscles that would be almost the entire mass of the organism, if not more, to make it be even able to move.
Blood volume, for complicated reasons I won't get into right now involving the fractal nature of blood vessels, increases with the (4/3) power of mass. So, while being 125 times the mass of a T. Rex, it would need 625 times the blood... thats 5x the blood per unit volume a T. Rex would have. And lets not even THINK about the heart such a creature would need to pump all of that, against gravity to boot.
NoahJaymes
Dec 12 2007, 07:35 AM
lol, that pretty much sums it up
Quade
Jan 9 2008, 09:17 PM
QUOTE (Dog Fish @ Dec 8 2007, 05:18 PM)

That has got to be the biggest penny ever

HAHA

well said
savvygirl
Jan 17 2008, 11:12 AM
QUOTE (Torgo @ Dec 12 2007, 07:11 AM)

A little bit of biophysics shows such a creature is impossible. Mass increases with the cube of linear size... but bone strength and muscle power only increases with the square. Lets do a quick calculation:
A Tyrannosaurus is about 30 feet long and 10 feet high. This alleged "fossil" is 250 feet long. Thats a factor of over 8. Lets assume some adaptations lowering the height of the creature; make it's average linear size a factor of 5 more than the T. Rex.
5 times the linear size means 5*5*5 = 125 the mass.
Bones and muscles the same PROPORTIONAL size would be 5*5 = 25 times the cross-sectional area - meaning they would need to be 5 times as strong per cross sectional area to support this creature's weight.
Assuming bones and muscles the same strength, you would need unworkably wide bones and muscles that would be almost the entire mass of the organism, if not more, to make it be even able to move.
Blood volume, for complicated reasons I won't get into right now involving the fractal nature of blood vessels, increases with the (4/3) power of mass. So, while being 125 times the mass of a T. Rex, it would need 625 times the blood... thats 5x the blood per unit volume a T. Rex would have. And lets not even THINK about the heart such a creature would need to pump all of that, against gravity to boot.
So one month and 11 day's later we still have no definitive proof on such a creature having ever existed!
Mad Manfred
Jan 17 2008, 11:46 AM
QUOTE (savvygirl @ Jan 17 2008, 10:12 PM)

So one month and 11 day's later we still have no definitive proof on such a creature having ever existed!

zomg that's unheard of on UM!
Ghø§t
Jan 17 2008, 10:33 PM
QUOTE (Raptor X7 @ Dec 6 2007, 07:03 AM)

Actually any animal that large would probably be a marine herbivore. If it were a carnivore it would have to hunt and successfully catch every animal it ever came across...
Who said it isn't a marine herbivore. Arizona wasn't always desert ya know!
David Arruda
Jan 20 2008, 01:30 AM
Ehh, I can believe it, nothings impossible.
---- when you gets pics and the original email. Send it to me. davroc12345@tmail.com
Thanks.
-Anna-
Jan 25 2008, 10:17 AM
It seems a bit suss. Why would they only be discovering it right now, if it's that huge?
I wonder where it evolved from. : D
Raptor
Jan 25 2008, 10:23 AM
It's not real.
DigitalDreamer
Jan 26 2008, 04:41 PM
Its not real,And who ever thinks it is possible.You are a nob
lexter_ian
Jan 27 2008, 05:19 AM
I need pics or originale-mail...sry...
Sneferu
Jan 27 2008, 06:16 PM
Sorry, but I don't believe this one bit. I live in Arizona and, through school, I know a few people in this type of field. There's no dig going on for something that huge.
This is just a fabrication, urban myth, outright lie, or whatever. Nothing more.
Moooooo
Jan 30 2008, 06:19 PM
QUOTE (DigitalDreamer @ Jan 26 2008, 04:41 PM)

Its not real,And who ever thinks it is possible.You are a nob

LMAO! that made me laugh.
Very erm... to the point ...
I dunno, I could believe it, far too many places untouched for us to be certain nothing like this could be underground for sure
Fact he has'nt come back and mentioned anything more... hmmm I'm gonna search his other threads
~Cheese~
Jan 31 2008, 03:03 AM
Lol
davesam
Feb 1 2008, 09:07 PM
man,i cant believe this....................
then it should have been published in other sites too.u are lying.then post any picture of that animal bones.......................
Actually any animal that large would probably be a marine herbivore so far.but i want to see a sauropod as a large animal and sure i believe that some day,a huge sauropod will be discovered.......................................
designer
Feb 5 2008, 07:06 PM
Maybe the location is wrong? There was a find in Dec of what may be the largest meat eater ever. Niot as big as the your story though.
Student Identifies Enormous New Dinosaur"ScienceDaily (Dec. 17, 2007) — The remains of one of the largest meat-eating dinosaurs ever found have recently been recognized as representing a new species by a student working at the University of Bristol."
"The new species is one of the largest carnivorous dinosaurs ever to have lived. Carcharodontosaurus iguidensis was probably 13-14 metres long, making it taller than a double-decker bus. It had a skull about 1.75 metres long and its teeth were the size of bananas."
rossedintranslation
Feb 11 2008, 04:50 PM
I've excavated at least one 300ft tooth, probably from an animal around 4 or 5 miles in length, it's just that i've lost the, er, data, and the site report.
Has anyone found an A4 ringbinder with a picture of batman on the front of it?
Damn, I can see my chance of fame and fortune disappearing before my very eyes...

(If only i could find the gold dental filling!)
CallSignWolf
Feb 16 2008, 02:16 AM
I'm not buying it.
f3liC
Feb 16 2008, 09:29 AM
i've learned never to read utahraptor's posts seriously anymore after that atlantis thread. like seriously, stop creating posts like these
Eric Raven The Skeptic
May 9 2008, 07:43 PM
Utah. You are back posting. Why don't you comment on what you posted before?
And what about the claim that you found Atlantis?? Hmmm. Its funny how you choose not answer about what you posted before.
Kryso
May 9 2008, 07:46 PM
Wouldn't something so large be almost impossible under the gravitational weight of our planet? The bone and muscle structure would be immense!
Primeval
May 9 2008, 07:55 PM
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ May 9 2008, 11:43 AM)

Utah. You are back posting. Why don't you comment on what you posted before?
And what about the claim that you found Atlantis?? Hmmm. Its funny how you choose not answer about what you posted before.
And I'm back posting at the same time too. It's good, you'll need the backup!
Eric Raven The Skeptic
May 9 2008, 09:16 PM
QUOTE (Primeval @ May 9 2008, 02:55 PM)

And I'm back posting at the same time too. It's good, you'll need the backup!
Good to see you brother.
Primeval
May 9 2008, 09:36 PM
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ May 9 2008, 01:16 PM)

Good to see you brother.
Likewise.
ammy
May 10 2008, 08:57 AM
QUOTE (telirium @ Dec 6 2007, 11:32 AM)

and this thing was, of course, buried on top of atlantis right?

lol,that one made me laugh XD.I dont think I would wanna encounter one of these things though Oo.Yikes.
mnemeion
May 10 2008, 09:24 PM
The government is digging up the fossils? Maybe that's why no one else is ever gonna hear anymore news about this.
Maybe its a dragon.
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