JustNormal
Apr 8 2008, 09:13 PM
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Apr 8 2008, 05:58 PM)

It is so bad that if they give it another season, I will stop watching A & E altogether.
I have an idea.
Lets start an online petition to take it off the air. Anyone that knows how to do that, let me know.

LOL NOOO...They canceled "A Haunting" so now we are down to 3, and MH isnt popular except I find it fun to watch..JN BOOOOO YA
JustNormal
Apr 8 2008, 09:16 PM
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 8 2008, 05:49 PM)

That's because its the only successful show A & E has.
If it had another good show with good ratings, PRS would not make it to season 2. It has more negative reviews than it has positive ones.
From my stand point, they have a pretty good audience by now. In any case, I dont agree that is the only successful show on that Network. A&E also shows The Sopranos, Intervention, biographies, along with educational shows. I watch that more than Sci Fi, or Travel Channel...JN
Pluto-x
Apr 8 2008, 10:32 PM
Cry Wolf... is the monster in your sig representing PRS? LOL
JN, I'm not saying they are bad people. I can't judge anyone I haven't met. I am giving their show my opinion from a well seasoned Paranormal Investigator's point of view. If you came across a hand print on a wall, and just because you don't know who put it there, are you going to claim it to be paranormal? Answer me that?
JustNormal
Apr 8 2008, 10:47 PM
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 8 2008, 11:32 PM)

Cry Wolf... is the monster in your sig representing PRS? LOL
JN, I'm not saying they are bad people. I can't judge anyone I haven't met. I am giving their show my opinion from a well seasoned Paranormal Investigator's point of view. If you came across a hand print on a wall, and just because you don't know who put it there, are you going to claim it to be paranormal? Answer me that?
I dont have to speak for PRS investigators. I noticed TAPS is now all the sudden gathering evidence. How can Jay agree that EVP last week was nothing more than a "click" so seems they are grasping at straws. PS do not call themelves ghost hunters and dont rely on scientific evidence, but they put their heart and sould into researching, talking to all witnesses, then performing EVP's and photos during Dead Time. Then they go the extra mile to help the person or family, end their torment..To me, thats what its about..Just my opinion..JN
Pluto-x
Apr 8 2008, 10:49 PM
You still haven't answered my question!? Would you label a hand print paranormal?
JustNormal
Apr 8 2008, 11:45 PM
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 8 2008, 11:49 PM)

You still haven't answered my question!? Would you label a hand print paranormal?
I would label it paranormal if it wasnt there, then POOF was there a minute later, and of course no one was near the area..
Pluto-x
Apr 9 2008, 12:04 AM
Skeptically how do we know the camera man did not do that? I wasn't there personally but... a hand print is not enough evidence to proclaim a place to have activity or to be labeled haunted. They are taking something like a hand print and calling it paranormal. How do they know for sure one of their crew did not do that? They don't. It could of been there before the team got there. My point is, its just not enough conclusive evidence in an experienced investigator's eyes to proclaim a place to be haunted. That's why me, Eric and Cry wolf dislike them. Because of things like this.
NoahJaymes
Apr 9 2008, 12:37 AM
A handprint? A freaking handprint? Do you realize how long a handprint, fingerprint, stays on the surface? days, months, years even. That handprint could have been there 4 months prior and all it takes is condensation or something to make it appear. Hands are oily......say it again, hands are oily.
A freaking handprint, what the sh**...
Paranormal State for the LOSS...bunch of podunk kids.
Next on A&E, Kindergarten Ghost Hunting 101! Yay Milk and cookies!
JustNormal
Apr 9 2008, 01:28 AM
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 9 2008, 12:04 AM)

Skeptically how do we know the camera man did not do that? I wasn't there personally but... a hand print is not enough evidence to proclaim a place to have activity or to be labeled haunted. They are taking something like a hand print and calling it paranormal. How do they know for sure one of their crew did not do that? They don't. It could of been there before the team got there. My point is, its just not enough conclusive evidence in an experienced investigator's eyes to proclaim a place to be haunted. That's why me, Eric and Cry wolf dislike them. Because of things like this.
Well, once you guys get your own show, I will be more than happy to debunk your theories..LOL
Sweetsalem82103
Apr 9 2008, 01:47 AM
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 8 2008, 07:04 PM)

Skeptically how do we know the camera man did not do that? I wasn't there personally but... a hand print is not enough evidence to proclaim a place to have activity or to be labeled haunted. They are taking something like a hand print and calling it paranormal. How do they know for sure one of their crew did not do that? They don't. It could of been there before the team got there. My point is, its just not enough conclusive evidence in an experienced investigator's eyes to proclaim a place to be haunted. That's why me, Eric and Cry wolf dislike them. Because of things like this.
Don't forget me! I don't like them either. . .and for the same reasons.
Pluto-x
Apr 9 2008, 11:49 AM
If I was ever on a show, I would be portraying the field the best I can. The right way and proper way. But producers won't allot it strictly because of entertainment purposes. I would not accept a contract from a t.v. network unless the show is done right. The field needs to receive much more credibility and shows such as PRS is not helping us get respect. TAPS is a more respectable organization because of their experience and knowledge. They've been around long before Sci Fi picked them up. So far TAPS is the only show that represents what we do properly. They aren't perfect, but close enough to my standards.
NoahJaymes
Apr 9 2008, 04:19 PM
Amen....
PRS was around for I think 6yrs before the show....but in all honesty, you can not tell.
MoonPrincess
Apr 17 2008, 04:16 PM
Who knew, CryWolf?
Anyhow, I hope they do get two more seasons. Only because I enjoy the show.
Some of those cases don't seem to be "sereve." They just seem like everyday cases.
(I know I spelt that word wrong.)
Pluto-x
Apr 17 2008, 04:19 PM
Is this thread still going? LOL
Damn PRS fans! They are like rodants!

Call the exterminator!!! Quick! LOL
NoahJaymes
Apr 17 2008, 04:21 PM
The popularity is dying obviously....as to will the show
Pluto-x
Apr 17 2008, 04:23 PM
I rather watch re-runs of scooby doo!
NoahJaymes
Apr 17 2008, 04:26 PM
I'd rather watch my bottle of dr pepper sit here empty and wondering when it will be replaced.
SS79
Apr 17 2008, 04:29 PM
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 17 2008, 05:23 PM)

I rather watch re-runs of scooby doo!

Theres nothign wrong with scooby doo . If it werent for those meddling kids we'd have monsters running riot all over the place
NoahJaymes
Apr 17 2008, 04:30 PM
haha oh geeze....someone is showing their age! lol
SS79
Apr 17 2008, 04:31 PM
QUOTE (CryWolf @ Apr 17 2008, 05:30 PM)

haha oh geeze....someone is showing their age! lol
Pluto-x
Apr 17 2008, 04:39 PM
Technically they were the first ghost hunters to make t.v.!?
PRS is like watching the Brady bunch on Most Haunted!
Plainbob13
Apr 18 2008, 12:31 AM
Oh come on. Don't you want to watch anothe season of PS telling people they have demons? Personally im waiting for the big showdown between Belial and Ryan. They need to have it as a cage match.
MoonPrincess
Apr 18 2008, 02:19 AM
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 17 2008, 11:19 AM)

Is this thread still going? LOL
Damn PRS fans! They are like rodants!

Call the exterminator!!! Quick! LOL
You'll NEVER take me! NEVER!
QUOTE (CryWolf Posted Today @ 11:21 AM)
The popularity is dying obviously....as to will the show

I can't let my thread die. Now can I?
This is my longest lasting thread yet.
Shankpin
Apr 18 2008, 02:38 AM
QUOTE (asc.rudeboy @ Apr 2 2008, 11:47 PM)

i hated this show from the first episode....they were doing dead time and someone saw a ghost looking at them from down the stairs,,and instead of getting the cameras over to the the stairs to try and catch it,ryan calls the guy away from the stairs and says it was a demon trying to trick them,,that set me off to no end.it made no sence,if you trying to talk to a spirit and it shows up to the party why not fking talk to it,try and work some sh** out,,not after asking it to talk to you decide its trying to trick you and warn everyone to stay away and not get hard core evidence that something was infact there...i called bull then and i call bull now i just cant sit threw the show ive tried more then once.
Was this the first episode?.. I'm dying to see this scene.. LMAO.
edit*
It was worse than i imagined...
Plainbob13
Apr 18 2008, 04:41 AM
QUOTE (Shankpin @ Apr 17 2008, 09:38 PM)

Was this the first episode?.. I'm dying to see this scene.. LMAO.
edit*
It was worse than i imagined...
Keep watching it gets worse.
Shankpin
Apr 18 2008, 04:47 AM
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ Apr 17 2008, 11:41 PM)

Keep watching it gets worse.
I'll be honest and no offense to the PS fans, but this dude, Ryan, or whatever, he makes me think of a duck.. he's almost cross eyed..
and i cant' tolerate him speaking thru that mic ... it's almost revolting.
Shankpin
Apr 18 2008, 04:49 AM
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 9 2008, 06:49 AM)

The field needs to receive much more credibility and shows such as PRS is not helping us get respect. TAPS is a more respectable organization because of their experience and knowledge. They've been around long before Sci Fi picked them up. So far TAPS is the only show that represents what we do properly. They aren't perfect, but close enough to my standards.
You are exactly right about that.
Plainbob13
Apr 18 2008, 03:27 PM
QUOTE (Shankpin @ Apr 17 2008, 11:47 PM)

I'll be honest and no offense to the PS fans, but this dude, Ryan, or whatever, he makes me think of a duck.. he's almost cross eyed..
and i cant' tolerate him speaking thru that mic ... it's almost revolting.
You forgot his bucktooth bigeared sidekick sergy. Whats worse he has the last warrne and Chip onn the show. Heck PS makes MostHaunted look good.
667-Neighbor of the Beast
Apr 18 2008, 04:00 PM
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ Apr 17 2008, 08:31 PM)

Oh come on. Don't you want to watch anothe season of PS telling people they have demons?
I think Ryan from PRS should try out for the next Beetlejuice movie
Beetlejuice- "I got demons runnin' all through me!!"
Pluto-x
Apr 18 2008, 04:23 PM
We should make a bet! How long will PRS last!? LOL...
Not money though, because it'll get out of hand! LMAO!
Like someone has to put something in their sig or something to that effect?
Asphodel
Apr 19 2008, 12:19 PM
I almost don't want it to end. Shame on me. I'm waiting for Chip to have another margaret moment. The man is hilarious.
MoonPrincess
Apr 24 2008, 03:32 PM
QUOTE (Asphodel @ Apr 19 2008, 07:19 AM)

I almost don't want it to end. Shame on me. I'm waiting for Chip to have another margaret moment. The man is hilarious.
Hahaha. I love that too.
*Whack!*
-----------------
Here's the
Penn State Paranormal Research Society. Ryan's an admin there.
I'm there as Empress Augusta Vradica.
Pluto-x
Apr 24 2008, 04:10 PM
Come on people... PRS needs to be taken off the air period! I say we start a petition!? They did one against Uwe Boll! LOL...
Here is an example!
PetitionDude, they are so portraying our field very badly and making us the laughing stock.
Plainbob13
Apr 24 2008, 04:17 PM
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 24 2008, 11:10 AM)

Come on people... PRS needs to be taken off the air period! I say we start a petition!? They did one against Uwe Boll! LOL...
Here is an example!
PetitionDude, they are so portraying our field very badly and making us the laughing stock.
Where do i sign up?!
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Apr 24 2008, 04:21 PM
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 24 2008, 11:10 AM)

Come on people... PRS needs to be taken off the air period! I say we start a petition!? They did one against Uwe Boll! LOL...
Here is an example!
PetitionDude, they are so portraying our field very badly and making us the laughing stock.
I would sign it in a flash.
NoahJaymes
Apr 24 2008, 04:24 PM
We could do what the governor did in Blacksheep and have even the dead sign

I'd sign and make everyone I know sign as well...not that i would have to try hard, they would in a heartbeat.
MoonPrincess
Apr 24 2008, 04:25 PM
Should I close my thread too? Since half of the members hate it?

Edit:
Just because you hate it. Doesn't mean you have to ruin the show for me. And the rest of the fans.
;_;
NoahJaymes
Apr 24 2008, 04:31 PM
Public forum and we have a right to be critics of a poor podunk show

, close the thread if you wish....stop the madness before you finally see the light
Pluto-x
Apr 24 2008, 04:36 PM
Not to worry... if this thread closes, we can always start our own thread to continuously make it known how much we hate it!?
NoahJaymes
Apr 24 2008, 04:37 PM
Sounds good to me

, actually sounds good woot
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Apr 24 2008, 04:40 PM
QUOTE (MoonPrincess @ Apr 24 2008, 11:25 AM)

Should I close my thread too? Since half of the members hate it?

Edit:
Just because you hate it. Doesn't mean you have to ruin the show for me. And the rest of the fans.
;_;
I just think it is our patriotic duty to get rid of the show. By getting rid of this show, we can save lives and feed the hungry. So many good things can come from the end of this show. Perhaps a cure for cancer. Join us.
NoahJaymes
Apr 24 2008, 04:48 PM
Hahaha....probably a decrease in demon awareness as well.
Mabon
Apr 24 2008, 05:17 PM
QUOTE (MoonPrincess @ Apr 24 2008, 12:25 PM)

Should I close my thread too? Since half of the members hate it?

Edit:
Just because you hate it. Doesn't mean you have to ruin the show for me. And the rest of the fans.
;_;
Hello Moonprincess.
I don't like PRS and have stated so many times. If you enjoy it that's fine. I hope you enjoy it for it's entertainment properties.
However, the people that are voicing their dissent about the show have a valid point.
The way that PRS is being portrayed, either by the editing staff or by their own instigation isn't portraying Paranormal Investigation. It shows and upholds beliefs that were constructed thousands of years ago. It's a snake oil show. They are selling belief in the most insidious ways.
Some of the things that they portray on the show makes no sense beyond entertainment. But it isn't being billed as entertainment and to many people the show is real.
They should quit billing themselves as PIs and bill themselves as Belief Supporters, BS for short.
In my opinion it's not belief or the positive aspects of belief that's dangerous but the show relies on that belief system and exploits it. People are going to believe a demon/entity or some mummery over a knowable medical condition, toxic environment or other provable cause and they will cling to that belief over a fact. This wouldn't bother me if I didn't see it as dangerous as case after case in the news proves. When someone kills a family member because they believed that a demon or what ever was infesting their loved one, I blame shows like this one. This show adds to that IMHO.
Regards,
Mabon.
NoahJaymes
Apr 24 2008, 05:29 PM
Well said Mabon.
Pluto-x
Apr 24 2008, 07:22 PM
Ditto... well said!
As seasoned P.I.'s and founder's of our own Paranormal Groups we should not be bashing other groups in public, however this group needs to be bashed because they are simply frauds and I have scientific proof of it because I have investigated a location they have investigated. The things they claimed to be paranormal are hardly paranormal at all. The characters on that episode lied about so many things on the show, basically to sell it. Its because of groups like this that people & scientists do not take us seriously. Does it ruin my credibility as a founder of a well established group? Maybe, but I have the proof, I know the truth, and have the backing.
Plainbob13
Apr 24 2008, 07:31 PM
QUOTE (MoonPrincess @ Apr 24 2008, 11:25 AM)

Should I close my thread too? Since half of the members hate it?

Edit:
Just because you hate it. Doesn't mean you have to ruin the show for me. And the rest of the fans.
;_;
Rest of the fans? Does the family of the PS jokes count as fans?
redqueen
Apr 24 2008, 07:31 PM
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ Apr 6 2008, 11:25 AM)

PS and shows like it give the study of the Paranormal a bad name.
Seconded.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Apr 24 2008, 07:32 PM
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ Apr 24 2008, 02:31 PM)

Rest of the fans? Does the family of the PS jokes count as fans?
NoahJaymes
Apr 24 2008, 07:32 PM
I just dislike them because of their methods, their "know it all attitude". What is scary is that they have the means to basically "brainwash" people ,if you will, into believing their little fairy tale. Sickening.
Mabon
Apr 25 2008, 11:34 AM
Thank you CryWolf and Pluto-x!
I really dislike being negative about a show that people enjoy. You know, if it were a perfect world people wouldn't be affected by it and would see it as a fun (if they enjoy that type of thing) program then put it from their mind until the next show. Yet a lot of people don't. They see the show and think that what this team is doing is both helping and right.
The aspect of the show that really bugs me is the unsubstantiated diagnosis. This is the part that is based on belief. Belief and facts seem diametrically opposed but they don't have to be. If PRS were using what has been written about as a base to dismiss or prove those claims then it might be interesting.
This isn't the dark ages. A lot of things that used to be signs/proof of the devil and/or demons we now know to be mental illness, physical illness or other causes. I like living in the 21st century. While there are things that we can learn and should honor from history. The blind belief this show promotes, isn't one of them.
QUOTE
As seasoned P.I.'s and founder's of our own Paranormal Groups we should not be bashing other groups in public, however this group needs to be bashed because they are simply frauds and I have scientific proof of it because I have investigated a location they have investigated. ~Pluto-x
I do agree with that the people shouldn't be bashed yet critiquing should be done. I really hoped that since the group was young and either still in college or recent graduates that they would apply the knowledge that they learned toward paranormal investigations. I wouldn't even have minded if they used mediums/psychics so long as they were going to try to substantiate the claims made by them. On the first two shows (shown in my area back to back and presented as an hour long episode) those hopes were dashed.
Regards,
Mabon.
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