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Pluto-x
QUOTE (Mabon @ Apr 25 2008, 07:34 AM) *
Thank you CryWolf and Pluto-x!

I really dislike being negative about a show that people enjoy. You know, if it were a perfect world people wouldn't be affected by it and would see it as a fun (if they enjoy that type of thing) program then put it from their mind until the next show. Yet a lot of people don't. They see the show and think that what this team is doing is both helping and right.

The aspect of the show that really bugs me is the unsubstantiated diagnosis. This is the part that is based on belief. Belief and facts seem diametrically opposed but they don't have to be. If PRS were using what has been written about as a base to dismiss or prove those claims then it might be interesting.

This isn't the dark ages. A lot of things that used to be signs/proof of the devil and/or demons we now know to be mental illness, physical illness or other causes. I like living in the 21st century. While there are things that we can learn and should honor from history. The blind belief this show promotes, isn't one of them.



I do agree with that the people shouldn't be bashed yet critiquing should be done. I really hoped that since the group was young and either still in college or recent graduates that they would apply the knowledge that they learned toward paranormal investigations. I wouldn't even have minded if they used mediums/psychics so long as they were going to try to substantiate the claims made by them. On the first two shows (shown in my area back to back and presented as an hour long episode) those hopes were dashed.

Regards,
Mabon.


Well... they did use a Psychic on the Katie's episode. However, both the team & psychic lied blatantly to sell the episode

Plainbob13
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 25 2008, 10:50 AM) *
Well... they did use a Psychic on the Katie's episode. However, both the team & psychic lied blatantly to sell the episode


Funniest scene ever in PS was when ryan put blessed medal under the girls mattress. The idea was if she was infested with a demon she would be uncomfortable sleeping. My god what kills me is they gave these kids a show.
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ Apr 25 2008, 11:55 AM) *
Funniest scene ever in PS was when ryan put blessed medal under the girls mattress. The idea was if she was infested with a demon she would be uncomfortable sleeping. My god what kills me is they gave these kids a show.


I missed that episode, as I tend to do ALL of them anymore. But your telling me that they basically told a little girl "Your infested with demons, so we're going to verify it "Princess and the Pea" style."?
Asphodel
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ Apr 25 2008, 10:55 AM) *
Funniest scene ever in PS was when ryan put blessed medal under the girls mattress. The idea was if she was infested with a demon she would be uncomfortable sleeping. My god what kills me is they gave these kids a show.


He was such a sneaky little rodent pulling that stunt. disgust.gif The parents should have wanted to boot his butt out the second he suggested that their daughter could be possessed. Sometimes I don't know what worries me more: PRS or their clients.
NoahJaymes
The best episode of Paranormal State is an unaired one....now that my friends...is dead time grin2.gif
Plainbob13
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ Apr 25 2008, 11:23 AM) *
I missed that episode, as I tend to do ALL of them anymore. But your telling me that they basically told a little girl "Your infested with demons, so we're going to verify it "Princess and the Pea" style."?


Yea i laughed my butt off. The next day they went back and the girl said she slept fine. lol
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ Apr 25 2008, 01:16 PM) *
Yea i laughed my butt off. The next day they went back and the girl said she slept fine. lol


Yeah, I can just imagine how that phone conversations went:

Client-"Hello, PS. My daughter is having trouble sleeping at night"
Ryan-"Hm, sounds like demons. Tell her she is possessed. I'll get my camera crew together, and we'll come over to put a penny under her mattress. How does the first of next month sound for you?
NoahJaymes
Hahaha, Paranormal State are laughable at best.
Pluto-x
I have demons in my house, and yet I sleep fine!!! LMAO!!! laugh.gif
Plainbob13
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 25 2008, 03:02 PM) *
I have demons in my house, and yet I sleep fine!!! LMAO!!! laugh.gif


Call Chip coffee and Mrs Warren! They will run them demons right out your hair! Then Mrs. Warren will write another book.
Shankpin
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ Apr 18 2008, 10:27 AM) *
You forgot his bucktooth bigeared sidekick sergy. Whats worse he has the last warrne and Chip onn the show. Heck PS makes MostHaunted look good.


OMYGOSH.. i'll be looking for this Sergy, I need a laugh.

agreed, Most Haunted is actually somewhat (gag) better.. (UGH.. I can't believe I just said that huh.gif )
Shankpin
OMG.. that Sergy is a dweeb. rolleyes.gif
NoahJaymes
Oh Shankpin you know sergy is settthy tongue.gif
-=LadyV=-
Now now...

How can you find anything wrong with a show that is so well produced, they have time to arrive, interview, record, review, get the 'experts' on location, solve, cleanse, bury assorted nick-nacks... all within a 3 day period??? w00t.gif


NoahJaymes
QUOTE (-=LadyV=- @ Apr 27 2008, 03:19 PM) *
Now now...

How can you find anything wrong with a show that is so well produced, they have time to arrive, interview, record, review, get the 'experts' on location, solve, cleanse, bury assorted nick-nacks... all within a 3 day period??? w00t.gif




Haha....good point
MoonPrincess
This is good news for me! At least.

SECOND SEASON STRAIGHT FROM RYAN!

YAY!!

*Jumps up & down*

I'm so happy!!
Pluto-x
OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess you'll be the only one watching it! Hahaha...

C.W. & Eric, what are we going to do about these poor PRS fans!? They keep coming back like rodents! LOL



NoahJaymes
A human size can of rodent removal.
667-Neighbor of the Beast
I say we take out PRS. No PRS, no show, right??
Pluto-x
C.W., Eric & 667, did you know we are losing credibility by bashing PRS!? That's what I was told!!! laugh.gif
NoahJaymes
Consider the source in which you got it Pluto....The same person who for some reason starts video taping the closet and captures an orb come out of it, as this person moves the camera the orb moves...what this person fails to realize is that the two lamps on each side of the closet are both on, and of course the lighting will cause this affect....she moves the camera down, the orb moves down, she zips it right the orb moves right....I laughed my ass off when I saw that. I believe she has a camera in each room of the house..

We spend how many countless hours investigating and barely come back with anything, sometimes nothing, yet she takes 3 pictures randomly and gets demon worms, ecto and black shrouds.
SS79
QUOTE (CryWolf @ Apr 30 2008, 10:31 PM) *
Consider the source in which you got it Pluto....The same person who for some reason starts video taping the closet and captures an orb come out of it, as this person moves the camera the orb moves...what this person fails to realize is that the two lamps on each side of the closet are both on, and of course the lighting will cause this affect....she moves the camera down, the orb moves down, she zips it right the orb moves right....


where is this video i would like to see it. was it posted here ? if so can you direct me TY original.gif
Pluto-x
Word! C.W.

grin2.gif
NoahJaymes
QUOTE (SS79 @ Apr 30 2008, 05:33 PM) *
where is this video i would like to see it. was it posted here ? if so can you direct me TY original.gif


Hit me up on yahoo, I will email it to ya.
SS79
QUOTE (CryWolf @ Apr 30 2008, 10:41 PM) *
Hit me up on yahoo, I will email it to ya.


Cool thanks original.gif Ill have to restart comp to get messenger on so give me ten minutes .

Edit ugh cant do it . its playing up but thanks for the offer .
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 30 2008, 04:47 PM) *
C.W., Eric & 667, did you know we are losing credibility by bashing PRS!? That's what I was told!!! laugh.gif


Wow. One person who thinks that PRS is legit, thinks that we are losing crediblity for being able to see how ammature they really are??
Whoever it was that said that, I just want to say THANK YOU!!! I'm going to completely change my life now, thanks to your intuitive insight!!! I am now going to try to model myself after PRS. I'm going to start using psychics on all my investigations, because now I can see that they are the only form of credible scientific evidence!! I'm going to start listening much more carefully to every sound I hear on an investigation, because that might not have been a floor board creeking, it was probably a demon trying to communicate with us!!! I will start carrying pockets full of pennies, because PRS has shown that this is the best way to ward off demons!!! I'm also going to read A BOOK on demons, so that I can perform a professional excorsism at my next investigation, because I just know it will be a demon!!!!
Thank you again, to whoever said that!!! I hope you will now approve of us, because that is why I am on here anyway, is to win your approval!!! Now I know how to do it!!! I promise to try really hard to model myself after PRS!! As a matter of fact, I'm calling some local neurosurgeons now, to get some quotes on a labotomy!!!



My sig says it all.
JustNormal
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ May 1 2008, 02:52 PM) *
Wow. One person who thinks that PRS is legit, thinks that we are losing crediblity for being able to see how ammature they really are??
Whoever it was that said that, I just want to say THANK YOU!!! I'm going to completely change my life now, thanks to your intuitive insight!!! I am now going to try to model myself after PRS. I'm going to start using psychics on all my investigations, because now I can see that they are the only form of credible scientific evidence!! I'm going to start listening much more carefully to every sound I hear on an investigation, because that might not have been a floor board creeking, it was probably a demon trying to communicate with us!!! I will start carrying pockets full of pennies, because PRS has shown that this is the best way to ward off demons!!! I'm also going to read A BOOK on demons, so that I can perform a professional excorsism at my next investigation, because I just know it will be a demon!!!!
Thank you again, to whoever said that!!! I hope you will now approve of us, because that is why I am on here anyway, is to win your approval!!! Now I know how to do it!!! I promise to try really hard to model myself after PRS!! As a matter of fact, I'm calling some local neurosurgeons now, to get some quotes on a labotomy!!!



My sig says it all.



That was uncalled for, but in any case, I rest my case!!! Put it this way. Lets say someone on here needed a team to come out to their home to investigate activity. After reading and pondering, how much confidence would they put into a team that posts like that? That is so junior high and extremely petty. If you dont care for them thats great and your opinion, but the ranting and raving about it, is simply in poor taste. That is just my opinion. JN
NoahJaymes
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ May 1 2008, 09:52 AM) *
Wow. One person who thinks that PRS is legit, thinks that we are losing crediblity for being able to see how ammature they really are??
Whoever it was that said that, I just want to say THANK YOU!!! I'm going to completely change my life now, thanks to your intuitive insight!!! I am now going to try to model myself after PRS. I'm going to start using psychics on all my investigations, because now I can see that they are the only form of credible scientific evidence!! I'm going to start listening much more carefully to every sound I hear on an investigation, because that might not have been a floor board creeking, it was probably a demon trying to communicate with us!!! I will start carrying pockets full of pennies, because PRS has shown that this is the best way to ward off demons!!! I'm also going to read A BOOK on demons, so that I can perform a professional excorsism at my next investigation, because I just know it will be a demon!!!!
Thank you again, to whoever said that!!! I hope you will now approve of us, because that is why I am on here anyway, is to win your approval!!! Now I know how to do it!!! I promise to try really hard to model myself after PRS!! As a matter of fact, I'm calling some local neurosurgeons now, to get some quotes on a labotomy!!!



My sig says it all.


LMFAO.....don't worry man. My ribs are hurting from laughing and it was well worth it. Crap, hahahaha...you just got your response of who it was tongue.gif
NoahJaymes
QUOTE (JustNormal @ May 1 2008, 10:53 AM) *
That was uncalled for, but in any case, I rest my case!!! Put it this way. Lets say someone on here needed a team to come out to their home to investigate activity. After reading and pondering, how much confidence would they put into a team that posts like that? That is so junior high and extremely petty. If you dont care for them thats great and your opinion, but the ranting and raving about it, is simply in poor taste. That is just my opinion. JN


Yeah cause all the investigators in the world depend on getting cases from UM. Especially with all the posts on demons playing euchre and worms crawling on ceilings....I know that I myself would rather stick to people calling and emailing for us to come rather than me finding someone on a message board...lol....wow, we would have to be really dead on cases for that to happen...just remember, it may have been in poor taste, but you responded!
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (JustNormal @ May 1 2008, 10:53 AM) *
That was uncalled for, but in any case, I rest my case!!! Put it this way. Lets say someone on here needed a team to come out to their home to investigate activity. After reading and pondering, how much confidence would they put into a team that posts like that? That is so junior high and extremely petty. If you dont care for them thats great and your opinion, but the ranting and raving about it, is simply in poor taste. That is just my opinion. JN


Yes, I realize that it was immmature and uncalled for. But so is sending PM to someone, telling them that they are losing credibility for not liking the same shows that you do. That, IMO, is the height of immaturity. But, I also wanted to see if I could draw out the person who sent that message. Thanks. I figured it would work.
If you want to put any faith in a bunch of kids who's methods, practices, and conclusions are all brought under speculation by several seasoned field investigators, you be my guest. That is your mistake. But to claim that we lose crediblity for pointing out their obvious flaws?? That seems catty and very immature. We have proven on here several times that their methods are extremely ammature, their conclusions are not supported in any way with hard evidence, they attempt unsanctioned excorsims, and make outragious claims that are based solely on belief as scientific. Anyone who knows anything about true PI teams, knows that these guys are ammature, and are simply on TV as an attempt from A&E to copy the success of Ghost Hunters. I know you have a tendency, for some reason, to put more faith in what a psychic says, rather than what can be proven scientifically. But the rest of the world seems to like hard, concrete, scientific evidence. Psychics do not provide hard evidence of any kind. So to insult us, by saying that we lose crediblity because we try to do things scientifically, and can point out the fact that their methods lack any kind of scientific process whatsoever, it absolutely ridiculous.

Oh, and thanks CW. I figured you guys would get a laugh out of my post.
Pluto-x
I "Professionally" & "Privately" PM'd JN on my political as well as personal hatred for PRS. She knows the reasons I choose to continuously hate this show and speak my mind in public about it. So hopefully, she will understand by now, with your posts and my facts with proof that they are frauds. My team was mistreated by them on an unprofessional level ( In my own opinion ) and any investigator would feel the same way if they stepped on your toes and have the nerve to ask you for more potential locations to investigate after treating you the way they did is not how you conduct business. Especially ask us for locations and not participate or get some kind of reward or credit for those locations.

MoonPrincess
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 30 2008, 09:14 AM) *
OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess you'll be the only one watching it! Hahaha...

C.W. & Eric, what are we going to do about these poor PRS fans!? They keep coming back like rodents! LOL


I guess I do. And the people at the board. tongue.gif

I wonder when it starts.

;3

Note: Guys. If you don't like it then stop watching it. Would you like me to take off your favorite show?

I know you have your own opinions. Just saying.
Shankpin
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ May 1 2008, 02:46 PM) *
Anyone who knows anything about true PI teams, knows that these guys are ammature, and are simply on TV as an attempt from A&E to copy the success of Ghost Hunters.


I guess different strokes for different folks..

but I have to wonder if Lorraine Warren didn't fund this group for its' air time.... I mean she is wealthy enough, and then she'd get more publicity in the long run...These guys didn't do it broke by no means..

just something that crossed my mind a time or two.
NoahJaymes
QUOTE (MoonPrincess @ May 1 2008, 05:04 PM) *
I guess I do. And the people at the board. tongue.gif

I wonder when it starts.

;3

Note: Guys. If you don't like it then stop watching it. Would you like me to take off your favorite show?

I know you have your own opinions. Just saying.


Who says we watch it? I know I don't, one episode was all it took. Sure, go ahead and take off my favorite show...I mean, if you have that such power. Public domain, we can chat about what we want as long as it is not in violation of terms of service of the site.

------That is the bottom line--------Paranormal Investigator CW OUT!
JustNormal
QUOTE (Shankpin @ May 1 2008, 10:08 PM) *
I guess different strokes for different folks..

but I have to wonder if Lorraine Warren didn't fund this group for its' air time.... I mean she is wealthy enough, and then she'd get more publicity in the long run...These guys didn't do it broke by no means..

just something that crossed my mind a time or two.


I enjoy it..::ducking:: No Lorraine and Chip Coffee signed a contract to make cameo appearances on a number of shows, thats it. Lorraine is like 77 years old, and is not supposed to work, but I believe she loves it too much to stop at this point. I think for a bunch of your college kids, they are not too shabby. The one thing I respect is the way they treat the clients, and try to find a solution. Each one of the ghost hunting shows are totally different, and variety is the spice of life..JMO...JN
Pluto-x
How they treat clients? Don't you mean clients they steal from other teams? disgust.gif
NoahJaymes
Hahaha.....
JustNormal
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ May 2 2008, 03:24 AM) *
How they treat clients? Don't you mean clients they steal from other teams? disgust.gif


I am not too sure Pluto. No team can "steal" clients, but I think maybe the client wanted another investigation, as they clients contact the team, not the other way around. I heard that Kellies has called two more teams to come in as things are out of control. Not sure if we will hear about the results, but this seems to be an ongoing investigation, so maybe its best to let it go? Just a suggestion, be well...JN
NoahJaymes
QUOTE (JustNormal @ May 1 2008, 10:49 PM) *
I am not too sure Pluto. No team can "steal" clients, but I think maybe the client wanted another investigation, as they clients contact the team, not the other way around. I heard that Kellies has called two more teams to come in as things are out of control. Not sure if we will hear about the results, but this seems to be an ongoing investigation, so maybe its best to let it go? Just a suggestion, be well...JN


Sure, a team with a TV show with publicity can steal clients quite easily.
Plainbob13
You want a good laugh go to the A&E Paranormal state board. The Fans are trying to run off the people that think the show is full of BS. They are even going as far as threatening to sue people for jokes.
Pluto-x
QUOTE (JustNormal @ May 1 2008, 10:49 PM) *
I am not too sure Pluto. No team can "steal" clients, but I think maybe the client wanted another investigation, as they clients contact the team, not the other way around. I heard that Kellies has called two more teams to come in as things are out of control. Not sure if we will hear about the results, but this seems to be an ongoing investigation, so maybe its best to let it go? Just a suggestion, be well...JN


JN, please state your facts correctly... A & E contacted Katie's and my Team. Katie's did not contact them!!! My Team investigated Katie's for 2 straight years, always catching decent evidence. the owner did not show one ounce of interest in it. He wanted it for publicity and money. How do I know this? Because I know the person they contacted to get to Katie's. Who was NEVER THANKED for the help either BTW.

MoonPrincess
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ May 2 2008, 11:45 AM) *
You want a good laugh go to the A&E Paranormal state board. The Fans are trying to run off the people that think the show is full of BS. They are even going as far as threatening to sue people for jokes.


Yeah. The A&E Paranormal State Board is filled with a bunch of crazies. There's a member there who got kicked out of a convestion. She claims to "know" the group personally. She's just out for ravange on the group. That's what Topher_PRS said on a topic about the board & them. They're not too friendly really.
Plainbob13
QUOTE (MoonPrincess @ May 2 2008, 12:12 PM) *
Yeah. The A&E Paranormal State Board is filled with a bunch of crazies. There's a member there who got kicked out of a convestion. She claims to "know" the group personally. She's just out for ravange on the group. That's what Topher_PRS said on a topic about the board & them. They're not too friendly really.


You missed Thopher and the PRS attempted take over of the A&E board. He and others awhile back posted a whole plan to go over there and whip the forum into shape. LMAO! They even had a whole plan of attck and posted in on the PRS forums. You can make this stuff up. Its too funny. laugh.gif
Shankpin
QUOTE (JustNormal @ May 1 2008, 08:04 PM) *
Lorraine is like 77 years old, and is not supposed to work, but I believe she loves it too much to stop at this point.


I was curious on how this particular group was able to get air time- Their own docket, program.. It's not like A&E found them on the Internet and said "hey you, you want your own show?!"
There had to be some influence-money involved, and it does seem probable it was Lorrain Warren..jmo.
Plainbob13
QUOTE (Shankpin @ May 2 2008, 12:58 PM) *
I was curious on how this particular group was able to get air time- Their own docket, program.. It's not like A&E found them on the Internet and said "hey you, you want your own show?!"
There had to be some influence-money involved, and it does seem probable it was Lorrain Warren..jmo.


I think A&E were desperate to fill the opening left by Dog the Bountyhunter. But what i find worse then PS, is the fact they are giveing Chip a kids show. Now that is frightening.
Shankpin
Chip??
Plainbob13
QUOTE (Shankpin @ May 2 2008, 01:18 PM) *
Chip??


Yea Chip Coffee. He is the guy they bring in to battle the demons with the Warren. He was in the mothman episode and a couple others.
Shankpin
Omfg, O, no, UH HUH!! Yea i just looked that dude up... the medium guy?

What show for kids?

Plainbob13
QUOTE (Shankpin @ May 2 2008, 01:22 PM) *
Omfg, O, no, UH HUH!! Yea i just looked that dude up... the medium guy?

What show for kids?


A summer camp type place for "gifted" kids. I guess so they can learn about thier gifts. Called psychic kids camp or something like that. I just want to know what parents would send thier kids to this place. Everyone has to get 15 mins i guess. Poor kids.
Shankpin
You know, that's beats all I've ever heard...I think it's messed the hell up.

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