Was the People's Temple compound known as Jonestown part of a CIA mind control experiment?
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| in a cleared-out patch of Guyanese jungle, the Reverend Jim Jones ordered the 911 members of his flock to kill themselves by drinking a cyanide potion, and they did. |
you sure he didn't torture the victim or point a gun or something and tell them to drink it?
i dunno if the cia is invlove the government does do lots stuff but the government denies it all (its only a conspiracies the government might be telling the truth but who knows)
| QUOTE (fulltimekiller @ Jan 26 2004, 11:15 AM) |
| you sure he didn't torture the victim or point a gun or something and tell them to drink it? |
Actually there is some doubt as to whether all 911 drank the poison willingly on command and many were supposedly forced to so or were actually shot according to some material that I have read.
Seductive Poison by Debbie Layton who was one of Jim Jone's aides is a very good book on Jim Jones and his followers. Nothing in it about CIA involvement though.
http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/JONESTOWN.html
The source of the "Kool-Aid Suicide" stories was the U.S. State Department, which presented the story immediately after the "suicides" were reported as though it was the only obvious truth. A U.S. Army spokesman pronounced with complete authority, "No autopsies are needed. The cause of death is not an issue here." The bodies were then allowed to rot in the jungle. Despite the lack of need for autopsies, Dr. C. Leslie Mootoo, the top Guyanese pathologist, was at Jonestown hours after the deaths, and, refusing the assistance of U.S. pathologists, accompanied the teams that examined the bodies. His conclusions? Dr. Mootoo found fresh needle marks at the back of the left shoulder blades on 80 to 90 percent of the victims. Others had been shot or strangled. A surviving witness stated that those who resisted were forced by armed guards to comply. Dr. Mootoo's opinion, and that of the Guyanese grand jury investigating Jonestown, was that all but three (only two of which were suicides) were murdered by "persons unknown."
The source of the "Kool-Aid Suicide" stories was the U.S. State Department, which presented the story immediately after the "suicides" were reported as though it was the only obvious truth. A U.S. Army spokesman pronounced with complete authority, "No autopsies are needed. The cause of death is not an issue here." The bodies were then allowed to rot in the jungle. Despite the lack of need for autopsies, Dr. C. Leslie Mootoo, the top Guyanese pathologist, was at Jonestown hours after the deaths, and, refusing the assistance of U.S. pathologists, accompanied the teams that examined the bodies. His conclusions? Dr. Mootoo found fresh needle marks at the back of the left shoulder blades on 80 to 90 percent of the victims. Others had been shot or strangled. A surviving witness stated that those who resisted were forced by armed guards to comply. Dr. Mootoo's opinion, and that of the Guyanese grand jury investigating Jonestown, was that all but three (only two of which were suicides) were murdered by "persons unknown."
http://www.subversiveelement.com/Firefromsky20.html
The people who were taken from San Francisco to begin their 'new life' in
Guyana were bussed to Florida and arrived in Guyana bound and gagged, where
they were forced to work 16 hours or more daily, and were fed on minimum
rations. As more and more rumors began to filter back to the United States
of druggings, beatings, torture, sexual humiliations and coercion at the
Guyana site, Congressman Leo Ryan decided to go to Guyana and verify the
situation for himself.
"Ryan had challenged the CIA's overseas operations before, as a member of
the House Committee responsible for oversight on intelligence. He was
co-author of the controversial Hughes-Ryan Amendment, which would have
required advance CIA disclosure to the congressional committees of all
planned covert operations. The amendment would be defeated shortly after
his death in Jonestown.
"With Ryan on the way to Jonestown, the secrecy surrounding the camp would
be broken and desperate measures would need to be taken to keep the truth
from escaping, much less the inmates. In a futile attempt to test their
conditioning methods, the leaders at Jonestown apparently tried to
implement an actual suicide drill, but it was obviously ignored. Official
stories first numbered the victims at 408, but later revised the toll
upward to 913. It was claimed that some 505 bodies had been covered by
those of the first 408 who had fallen directly on top of them, confusing
those who had been counting from aerial photographs. - a blatant and
ridiculous attempt at cover-up.
"However, the first reports were true - 408 had died, and 700 fled to the
jungle where British Black Watch troops and American Special Forces were
conducting 'training exercises.' Of the 700, 505 who had been deliberately
shot in the jungle were added to the count of those who had supposedly
committed suicide by drinking cyanide-laced Kool Aid.
"The truth is that nearly 400 inmates were forced to die by injection,
according to the Chief Guyanese medical examiner, Dr. Mootoo, who arrived
at Jonestown within hours of the massacre. He found needle marks on the
left shoulder blades of 80-90% of the victims, and the others had been shot
or strangled.
The people who were taken from San Francisco to begin their 'new life' in
Guyana were bussed to Florida and arrived in Guyana bound and gagged, where
they were forced to work 16 hours or more daily, and were fed on minimum
rations. As more and more rumors began to filter back to the United States
of druggings, beatings, torture, sexual humiliations and coercion at the
Guyana site, Congressman Leo Ryan decided to go to Guyana and verify the
situation for himself.
"Ryan had challenged the CIA's overseas operations before, as a member of
the House Committee responsible for oversight on intelligence. He was
co-author of the controversial Hughes-Ryan Amendment, which would have
required advance CIA disclosure to the congressional committees of all
planned covert operations. The amendment would be defeated shortly after
his death in Jonestown.
"With Ryan on the way to Jonestown, the secrecy surrounding the camp would
be broken and desperate measures would need to be taken to keep the truth
from escaping, much less the inmates. In a futile attempt to test their
conditioning methods, the leaders at Jonestown apparently tried to
implement an actual suicide drill, but it was obviously ignored. Official
stories first numbered the victims at 408, but later revised the toll
upward to 913. It was claimed that some 505 bodies had been covered by
those of the first 408 who had fallen directly on top of them, confusing
those who had been counting from aerial photographs. - a blatant and
ridiculous attempt at cover-up.
"However, the first reports were true - 408 had died, and 700 fled to the
jungle where British Black Watch troops and American Special Forces were
conducting 'training exercises.' Of the 700, 505 who had been deliberately
shot in the jungle were added to the count of those who had supposedly
committed suicide by drinking cyanide-laced Kool Aid.
"The truth is that nearly 400 inmates were forced to die by injection,
according to the Chief Guyanese medical examiner, Dr. Mootoo, who arrived
at Jonestown within hours of the massacre. He found needle marks on the
left shoulder blades of 80-90% of the victims, and the others had been shot
or strangled.
An audio recording made on November 18, 1978, at the Peoples Temple compound in Jonestown, Guyana immediately preceding and during the mass suicide or murder of over 900 members of the cult.
Author: The Rev. Jim Jones, et al. (The Peoples Temple cult)
http://www.archive.org/details/ptc1978-11-18.flac16
Author: The Rev. Jim Jones, et al. (The Peoples Temple cult)
http://www.archive.org/details/ptc1978-11-18.flac16
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I've heard that recording before. :tu:Horrible to listen too,bloody morbid.
It doesnt sound like theres over 900 people there,more like about 40.
I believe he had links with the CIA,I think they found drugs only used in the CIA's MK ULTRA experiments and FBI files about the black panthers at the camp after the massacre.
The gun that he allegidly shot himself in the head with was found 200 feet from his body,which had missing tattoos too?
bizarre?
I've heard that recording before. :tu:Horrible to listen too,bloody morbid.
It doesnt sound like theres over 900 people there,more like about 40.
I believe he had links with the CIA,I think they found drugs only used in the CIA's MK ULTRA experiments and FBI files about the black panthers at the camp after the massacre.
The gun that he allegidly shot himself in the head with was found 200 feet from his body,which had missing tattoos too?
bizarre?
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