Gazz
Jan 26 2004, 07:00 PM
The following story is one I have only
shared with one other person!
I am off work today and for some reason
I have been thinking a lot about my
childhood.
I grew up in a small town in southern Utah, Called St. George.
This all comes from memories contained
in my 7 (almost Eight) year old mind!
I have always believed that it is
nothing more than a child's vivid
imagination.
I changed the names, remember this is
my 7 year old self telling a story!
Anyway .. when I was almost 8 years old
me and my buddies would always go hiking in the desert and hills around St. George
One cool fall Saturday night we all took our camping stuff and headed for the hills as we always did... there was Johnny, Mike Rodney, and me!
Well we were only about 20 yards from my home.. its as far as our parents would let us go camping...lol
We were sitting and telling scary stories, we began talking about the news of the
cattle mutilations .. it was the talk of the town... we thought it was all so cool.
None of us would admit that it really was scary... I had seen the farmers and others around town and I could sense the fear.
When you are a child and see grownups
afraid its really scary!
Anyway after we had scared the crap out
of ourselves and all got in our sleeping bags in the tent... an lay listening to the sounds of the night... My mind was
swimming in curiosity... I could not stop thinking about it... then after a while I realized I was the only one awake.
and the sounds of the night seemed to
get louder and louder... my heart was racing.
Now I am about to tell you what I have only told to one other person in my life!
I couldn't stop squirming and really was restless... I had to get up and look outside.
I pulled the zipper open on the tent and stuck my head out.... I looked up and could see every star in the sky... it was amazing and very clear.... Then I could see one moving... it looked like star... then I thought its just a plane
and then it stopped and started to grow and grow... it got so bright I had to cover my eyes.
The next thing I knew I was sitting in a very bright room... and was really in a daze at first I remember the sounds and smells ... and then thinking I must be in a dream.
There was a kind of dull hum all around me then a voice... it sounded like a young man I remember gasping and looking all around for the source of the voice... there was no one there .. and I couldn't see any speaker.
I was sitting on what looked like a big pillow. I was a kid that is what I thought it looked like it may have been some kind of bed.
The voice I heard said Hello Donald (my name) it took me a while to get the nerve to say "hi"
I was about to say "who are you" when the voice came back to say "we are here to help you... you are safe here Donald"
I said "who are you? where are you? where am I?... I wanna go home" and I couldn't hold back the tear in the corner of my eye.. as it rolled down my cheek I began to get a warm relaxing feeling... a calm came over me.. I totally relaxed
Then there was an opening in front of me someone walked through it.. and said "hello again Donald, I am Dalief' (sounded like that)"
I couldn't see his face at first... then he said "feeling better now" .. "I guess so" I said.
Strange I should be afraid but I am not .. I
thought to myself.
Then out of no where he put his hand on my head and moved closer... I realized he was not human at all.. and still I was not afraid... He spoke again "Donald you have a special gift not many of your kind have"
I looked at his face as he spoke nothing moved and wondered where his voice was coming
from.
Then he said "I will answer your questions if you can ask me"... I began to speak, and he put his long fingers over my mouth and said "not like that, I want you to talk to me as I am talking to you, do you think you can do it?"
I nodded yes, I don't know how I did it but I was talking and I could hear myself but I was doing it with my mind.
"where am I?" ... "Not far from your home" he said ... Now I could see the details of his face... He had a large head, large eyes very dark blue, I could see no ears, and only small holes where I thought a nose should be...a small slit where a mouth should be.
"But where am I really" I said, he moved back a bit and said "I must tell you what you ask.. but I must tell you the whole story first okay"
Strange I thought he talks like he is a kid like me.
To make it short I will explain what he told me He took me to another room where there were many others like him... they all stood and I was lead to the center of the room and told to sit on another pillow like thing.
I asked all my questions, about where I was who they were, why's and whats and who's and where's...lol I think I was asking and not trying to listen.
I was not just given answers I was shown them its kinda hard to put into words.. I will try.
I was shown the dawn of mankind... and it was all done through DNA and gene splicing.
I was shown where they are from, what their world is like and why they came here.
They are adventurers and scientists...
searching for answers themselves to the many riddles of life... one of the things they gave us!
They came here about 84,000 years ago....to
complete there thousands of years of
experiments here on our planet.
When they finally gave us the DNA that would expand our minds... an attempt to make us more like them... they had no idea how we would use it... many argued that we would not be able to handle it, our aggressive nature and instincts would take over and lead to conflict, and the human will destroy his own world.
I was shown how they do care for us.. they actually worry about us as a parent does children... it was really weird.
They have been and continue to make
corrections and conduct tests on us.
they are trying to bring us a more peaceful nature... but the animal in many humans
will not let it happen...
I was shown that I have a gift .. a rare one one that only a few humans have... the
ability to use the parts of the alien brain in us all.
They are also interested in our animal life and have done great studies in the foods we eat.. including cows (milk) and (beef)
They have tried to change our food in order to make us more passive like them.
As you can see our creators are not perfect and have made many mistakes.... but they are a far better race of beings than we are. and in many ways we are exactly like them.
They are afraid for us... they have seen the events of modern man, and it has made many of them feel depression ... they are a loving, caring race of beings... believe it or not!
They have also given us many of our
technologies, in small doses over the last 200 years.
They hope we can make peace... but they
are planning for the worst,... what scares me is what will happen if they give up on us.
They travel here by crossing dimensions
they have some kind of power that is far beyond anything we have yet.. he called
it in human words "cold fusion"
A teaspoon of this stuff could power all of the USA for months!
Gazz
Gandalf900
Jan 28 2004, 07:38 PM
Donald, what do YOU think this is about? How old are you now? Have you talked about this to your friends that were with you that night? Do they have any memories of this event? It sounds very "typical' to a lot of the other contactees stories, but when they are your own, it seems like you are the only one in the universe to experience it. I am not 'belittling' your experience, just sharing with you that you are not alone.
A the gift, certainly it is a gift, to be able to begin the process, or the journey, into greater understanding of the universe, its occupants and our relationship to each other. The possibilities, the journey, the experience, teh ADVENTURE, is limitless.
And what is imagination? I think this would be an interesting question to pose to the various visitors to this site. I don't think it is hard to differentiate between imaginings and 'realities." But then again, here we go again, what is "reality?"
After all, reality is realative!!!
lori c
marshmellow908
Jan 29 2004, 12:35 AM
hey gazz, this is a great post. I think it's totally possible it happened, baseically because I think humans can open up thier minds and do more then what is told to us as we grow up. Children exspecailly have the best bet of opening up their minds because they have not been told what to think yet. Hope u figure it out.
Gazz
Jan 29 2004, 01:50 AM
To answer gandalf's question I will
have to tell a bit more of the story.
The following morning I woke up and
shouted WAKE UP to my buddies, we all
got up and ran to the house for
breakfast.
My mother was cooking and the table
was ready we all sat down and I gulped
down a whole glass of orange juice.
Then I looked at my friends and said
"I had a wierd dream last night" they
all laughed, inside I knew I was alone
so it must have been just a dream.
I have never talked to any of my
buddies since that day about that night
I just put it behind me.. so no they
knew nothing and know nothing about it.
as I said I deal with it by saying
to myself it was all just imagination.
it is the only way an eight year old
can deal with that kind of event.
I had a hard time writing when creating
this topic .. if you look you should
be able to tell.
I ended the post when I did because I
am just not ready to share the rest at
this time.
I was shaking when I was typing, and
it was almost painful to get it into
text.
I have it all in a journal .. one I
started writing in when I was 8 years
old.
I ended it when I did because I was
unable to continue... I wanted to wait
for a while before I posted about this
because it is one of the main reasons
I found this site, but I am learning
now that there are no answers.. so
for me the best course is to believe
it was all in my mind.
Hey I was a kid, and I read a lot of
comic books and watched too much TV
it is quite possible it all came from
my imagination!
By the way I am now 38 years old.
I have not been in St. Geroge Utah
since I was 12, we moved to Salt Lake
City, and now I am a 1,000 miles away
from all of it, have been for most of
my adult life.
My journal I started on this is 357
pages long, all of it was written by
me when I was between the ages of 8 and
12.
I got it out and read it again before
I started this topic.
I was just a kid right?
Gazz
Byuu94
Jan 29 2004, 03:20 AM
So, do you think it was real, or not? Forgive me if that sounds mean.
Gazz
Jan 29 2004, 01:23 PM
| QUOTE (Byuu94 @ Jan 29 2004, 02:20 AM) |
| So, do you think it was real, or not? Forgive me if that sounds mean. |
The best answer I can give you is that
it was the result of my imagination.
I have no proof, it was a time in my
life of discovery, I was just a kid
it never happened again.
It was as real as anything an eight
year old can believe!
Gazz
Seraphina
Jan 29 2004, 03:40 PM
What you really should be asking yourself is, if it really did happen, why such an obviously intelligent race of people would be choosing to explain everything they did to a 7 year old who...if you'll forgive me...probably wouldn't understand anything of what he was told
You'll forgive me if I'm a little skeptical...
You were 7 years old, but you seem to remember it in very...vidid detail...it's been my observation that the more elaborate the story, the more likely it is it's made up...
I will say this, I doubt very much it came from your imagination...as will say this, a 7 year old making up a theory of "gene splicing" is unlikely at best, as is the thought that they would be able to 'create' such a detailed fantasy of the alien's history and purpose, and the hand they've played in guiding us to where we are now...
I'm not accusing you of making it up, not at all

But I do wonder how, at the age of 7, you were able to so clearly understand everything you were shown and told that you remember it all 21 years later....
Gazz
Jan 29 2004, 04:20 PM
| QUOTE (Seraphina @ Jan 29 2004, 02:40 PM) |
What you really should be asking yourself is, if it really did happen, why such an obviously intelligent race of people would be choosing to explain everything they did to a 7 year old who...if you'll forgive me...probably wouldn't understand anything of what he was told
You'll forgive me if I'm a little skeptical...... |
Have you forgotten what its like to be
7 amost 8 years old?
I knew what happened to me, and like I
said I was shown things, not told them
its like it was put in my head and
could not be deleted.
I also knew I could never talk about it
to anyone, so I began writing it all in
a secret journal.
Now I have questions about all of it.
I am open to it all... But I swear
I still try to believe that it was just
my child imagination, I was really into
Sci-Fi comic books and watched a lot of
television.
I felt compelled to start the journal
because I felt I was unable to ever
tell anyone. like somehow if it was
written and I could read it, it would
make it all more real.
it took me 4 years to write it all, but
at that age my writing skills were
really bad.
I am willing to admit I made it up when
I am 100% sure that is the case!
but for now I am as unsure as you are
for the same reasons, how could I have
made up things I had no way of knowing
anything about?
I expected this reaction, trust me.
But I have been dealing with this my
whole life.
I am not insane, I am a father of 4 and
I live a very normal boring life.
The only person who has ever seen this
journal and heard my account of my
story is my shrink!
And she has more questions than
answers. not much help!
Last year I realized this event would
never leave me alone unless I got some
real help so I went to a shrink!
I think I was actually hoping she'd
tell me I am insane!
I will find the answers I am seeknig
one way or the other, I hope.
if not maybe I can find a way to
understand it all.
Gazz
Seraphina
Jan 29 2004, 04:28 PM
| QUOTE |
Have you forgotten what its like to be 7 amost 8 years old? |
Well....given that I was that age a little under 11 years ago, as opposed to your 21, and can barely remember a thing that happened from it in any great detail...
About the most traumatic thing that happened to me back then that sticks out is when I very nearly set myself on fire

Which was...interesting...but I don't remember the details, the faces or names of any of the people in hospital or such like...it's just not an age that tends to contribute to your long term memory.
Gazz
Jan 29 2004, 06:06 PM
| QUOTE (Seraphina @ Jan 29 2004, 03:28 PM) |
| QUOTE | Have you forgotten what its like to be 7 amost 8 years old? |
Well....given that I was that age a little under 11 years ago, as opposed to your 21, and can barely remember a thing that happened from it in any great detail...
|
Sorry, it was foolish of me to assume
that anyone could compare their
childhood memories to my own, when
my own are all I have to draw from.
And by the way it was 31 years ago not
21.
Thanks for all the input.
Gazz
Seraphina
Jan 29 2004, 06:11 PM
I do have one more question....
You say that the only person you've ever told about this experience was your shrink...until now, when you post it here.
May I ask, what made you decide to give this experience to people you know nothing about, have never met, and probably never will, rather than confiding in your loved ones to decide if they considered it just "your imagination", or could explain it better?
I suppose I can understand it's probably easier to talk to a faceless stranger on the other end of a computer than to someone face to face...but it's also much easier to gain exceptance and sympathy from family and friends...
Gazz
Jan 29 2004, 06:42 PM
| QUOTE (Seraphina @ Jan 29 2004, 05:11 PM) |
I do have one more question....
You say that the only person you've ever told about this experience was your shrink...until now, when you post it here.
|
Well I came here searching for answers.
I came here to this site because of
its name!
It took me weeks to build up the guts
to post what I have in this topic.
I did it because I had the silly notion
that maybe I'd be able to find others
who have been through what I have.
and it was time to begin to open up
about this chapter in my life.
to me this is just my first step.
I am not seeking to prove any thing to
anyone, just exploring an unexplained
event in my life.
If I were seeking more I could write a
book, get a good publisher and maybe
make the best seller list.
But I'd be happy just to come to an
understanding of it all.
As for my Family, well they are all
very religous mormons, and telling them
anything about this would have been
stupid to say the least.
I never told my wife and there are
times I wished I had, but there is no
chance of that as my wife was killed
by a drunk driver just over 4 years
ago.
I may share this journal and story
with my children when they are adults.
but I can't see ever sharing it with
them at this time.
in fact I am having second thoughts now
about ever sharing this with anyone
again in any way.
Gazz
Fluffybunny
Jan 29 2004, 06:52 PM
Gazz, I am sorry for everything that you have been going through.
You must understand that there are many skeptics here. There have also been many crackpots that people have had to deal with over time...it makes some here skeptical of stories like yours...Not that I think yours if false, or that I am saying that you are a crackpot...but it is an amazing story that is likely to be seriousely questioned by some here.
It sounds like you are really serious about this, and I would like to recommend that you talk to someone who specializes in abductions, and the therapy thereof. There are organizations that have support groups for abductees. I would assume that people with like experiences will give you more of the feedback that you are looking for.
Doing a google of "alien abduction" brings up a list of different sites and societies that may be more of what you need at this time. I don't know the validity of any of them, so I can't really recommend anything, I am sure you can search better than i can on the issue.
I hope that helps some.
Gazz
Jan 29 2004, 07:21 PM
| QUOTE (fluffybunny @ Jan 29 2004, 05:52 PM) |
Gazz, I am sorry for everything that you have been going through.
You must understand that there are many skeptics here. There have also been many crackpots that people have had to deal with over time... |
Been there done that, so to speak!
I have been down that raod, trust me
most of those sites are about the
exploitation of these type events not
there to really help anyone deal with
it, but Thanks anyway!
I actually respect the skeptics, and
their feedback is in many ways helpful.
as for crackpots, well that is always
expected, after all everyone is a
crackpot until proven otherwise, right?
Anyway, this has been eye opening to
say the least!
Thanks Everyone.
If anyone wants to contact me, please
feel free to do so.
I still believe I am not alone!
Gazz
hamellr
Jan 30 2004, 08:36 PM
Well, I can help you a little, but there are two possibilities.
When I was one or two years old, I vividly remeber looking outside my bedroom window to see a mother elephant and her baby grazing 100 yards away. I HEARD them moving around, I heard them making sniffing noises, I even smelled them. I watched them for a long time, which in retrospect was probally only a couple of minutes then went to bed. The next morning I got up excited to run outside and see the elephants - which of course were not there. Instead there was a large power transformer, and the smell and noises were probally cattle. But my imagination made this into a very vivid memory all these years later.
It's possible that your imagination latched onto something that you read or watched, and embellished it as you thought about it. Part of the embellisment is to make it more real to you so that you're convinced that it really happened to you. Harvard University did a study back in the 70's with Lie detectors to find out the true correct percentage rate. They took volunteer test subjects then accused them of stealing a 35MM camera. They showed the volunteer a picture of the supposed camera and asked them "did you steal this camera?" Everyone said no of course and Harvard later went on to figure out that the lie detector was only 30% accurate.
BUT (here is my point,) - one man broke down and confessed to stealing the camera. He started crying, and under further probing from the researches started providing details on when, where, and how he stole it. He added details to the story every time he told it. They asked the man to bring it back, and he was distraught when he could not produce the camera to "return." Eventually the researches confessed to the man that what had happened, yet the man continued for several months afterwards to believe that he stole the camera, to the point where he actually paid for the "stolen" camera.
This is just the most striking example I can come up with, but I've seen in friends and children, and not to say you are, people who suffer from depression especially do similiar things. One of my ex's was famous for it, even after I caught her and proved to her that what she said could not possibly have happened, she still believed that it did and thought I and anybody I brought to back me up "were crazy," or "just didn't see it properly."
The second option is that it really happened. If so you'll have to accept it. Look at it rationally - why wouldn't Aliens want to talk to you for reasons that you may not understand? Perhaps you're a latent telepath (based on your story,) that they were able to communicate with directly since they didn't have the technology to create a "universal translator." Perhaps they were running an experiment of some sort on you to see how they would be accepted to the general human population. (Much like how Jane Goodall approached lone gorillas at a time before coming up to a group of them.)
My personal question is not "Are there aliens," but, "Why haven't we been contacted yet?" My personal guess is either we've not been discovered yet (which is unlikely since we spill radio and TV communications out to something like 30,000 light years,) or they can't communicate with us due to their own laws (Prime directive to borrow an phrase,) or they fear that we humans will react as we do to everything else, with violence.
Rick
DreamRebel
Jan 30 2004, 08:40 PM
[Edit] Post removed
Gazz
Jan 30 2004, 11:25 PM
| QUOTE (hamellr @ Jan 30 2004, 07:36 PM) |
Well, I can help you a little, but there are two possibilities. |
Rick, First of all let me thank you for
an amazing reply to my story!
You have made more sense of this than
anything I have been told to this day.
I have been thinking a lot and going
through this in everyway I can to come
to some kind of understanding.
I have been looking through my journal
trying to figure out how I could have
known some of the things I was able to
write about at that age, some of the
details I cannot explain.. I have not
posted most of it here, I have even
looked through my old comic book
collection searching for the sources
that may explain how I obtained such
information in such great detail.
as for now I am still unable to explain
that, but there are some striking
things in what you have posted, maybe
I wanted to believe it all so bad that
when I began writing all of this in
this journal I somehow created what I
went through and each time I added to
my journal it added to my own sense
that it was all real.
Its like some people can tell a lie or
made up story enough times and add
enough detail that they end up
believing it themselves.
Maybe that is exactly what happened
here, I wish I could say that for sure
believe me I do.
I have had to deal with this for 31
years alone, I wished I could figure
out a way to post some of the journal
here so you could see it, but as yet
I have been unable to do so.
I can tell you this much my story is
100% true, but I can't explain it in
anyway that seems rational.
I wish I was crazy, then I could just
relax and take my meds, but I have been
tested, "put under" and even given a
polygraph test... still no answers.
I am under the care of a good doctor
who has helped me in many ways, but she
seems as confused and frightened by
this as I am.
I wished I could forget about this
chapter in my life but I can't, best I
can do is try to explain it or
understand it.
Thanks again for the great post!
Gazz
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