Darkwind
Dec 9 2007, 06:08 PM
Evolution is an on going, we humans are continuing to evolve. What do think we will evolve into in the future if we can survive our own foolishness?
I think some of us will adapt to space travel. We will become lighter, smaller, our skin will be come more resistance to radiation, and our eyes will become larger to see better in the dark.
This is not a discussion about whether or not evolution is true or not. In this thread it is true.
Legatus Legionis
Dec 9 2007, 06:58 PM
umm. there are many possibilities or outcomes as to how we will evolve into enhanced or advance species, by what I meant of enhanced is that we have already mastered, mapped and manipulate our genes.
Chokmah
Dec 9 2007, 07:01 PM
I can't link directly, so go
here then scroll down to "Transform". Pretty interesting~
Legatus Legionis
Dec 9 2007, 07:04 PM
QUOTE (Chokmah @ Dec 10 2007, 03:01 AM)

I can't link directly, so go
here then scroll down to "Transform". Pretty interesting~

cool link.. full of info. at first I thought that you would create a world ending disaster or sort of that.
Raptor
Dec 10 2007, 01:48 PM
QUOTE (Darkwind @ Dec 9 2007, 06:08 PM)

Evolution is an on going, we humans are continuing to evolve. What do think we will evolve into in the future if we can survive our own foolishness?
I think some of us will adapt to space travel. We will become lighter, smaller, our skin will be come more resistance to radiation, and our eyes will become larger to see better in the dark.
This is not a discussion about whether or not evolution is true or not. In this thread it is true.
Evolution is partly driven by differential survival and reproductive rates (natural selection), but society and medical technology now ensures that almost everyone has an equal chance of surviving to adult hood and reproducing. So assuming that civilization remains stable, the rate of natural human evolution is going to decrease dramatically from here on out.
Having said that, we're entering a new age of genetic engineering, we're going to be taking charge before long.
Sleeping with Fishes
Dec 10 2007, 02:07 PM
We will all look like this.....
mr nobody
Dec 10 2007, 02:10 PM
QUOTE (Spanky_ @ Dec 10 2007, 02:07 PM)

We will all look like this.....

Where did you get that picture of me?
I remember years ago someone telling me that soon humans would evolve to be bald and without toes as we don't need toes. Never been able to quite figure that one out...
Raptor
Dec 10 2007, 02:16 PM
QUOTE (1.618 @ Dec 10 2007, 02:10 PM)

I remember years ago someone telling me that soon humans would evolve to be bald and without toes as we don't need toes. Never been able to quite figure that one out...
We don't strictly need toes but we're not going to lose them either. We would only lose them if for some reason people with shorter toes or a mutation causing them to have no toes at all, out competed people with toes.
Chokmah
Dec 10 2007, 03:53 PM
QUOTE (Legatus Legionis @ Dec 9 2007, 07:04 PM)


cool link.. full of info. at first I thought that you would create a world ending disaster or sort of that.

yeah, it's full of end-of-the-world fun trivia. But, scroll down a lil and click on Transform! and the read is pretty interesting.
Legatus Legionis
Dec 10 2007, 05:31 PM
QUOTE (Chokmah @ Dec 10 2007, 11:53 PM)


yeah, it's full of end-of-the-world fun trivia. But, scroll down a lil and click on Transform! and the read is pretty interesting.
I would like us to turn out to be Genetically modified human and the star-traveling Astran. rather than to be the survivalist ( to me it's like an advance primitive form. )
Darkwind
Dec 10 2007, 11:40 PM
QUOTE (Legatus Legionis @ Dec 10 2007, 05:31 PM)

I would like us to turn out to be Genetically modified human and the star-traveling Astran. rather than to be the survivalist ( to me it's like an advance primitive form. )
I would rather do the star traveling, I don't want to look like that I would rather look like the survivalist. GRRRRR We are going to have to be tough to live in space.
sage0409
Dec 11 2007, 09:33 PM
I've often wonder if there will even be such a thing as race in the far future. That would be boring.
atom286
Dec 11 2007, 09:45 PM
QUOTE (Chokmah @ Dec 9 2007, 07:01 PM)

I can't link directly, so go
here then scroll down to "Transform". Pretty interesting~
lol like the link
Dog Fish
Dec 12 2007, 12:43 PM
QUOTE (Legatus Legionis @ Dec 9 2007, 01:58 PM)

umm. there are many possibilities or outcomes as to how we will evolve into enhanced or advance species, by what I meant of enhanced is that we have already mastered, mapped and manipulate our genes.
We know how to manipulate genes, yes. But are geneticists masters of gene engineering? Not by a long shot. There is still so much that must be learned before we it can become common place.
Legatus Legionis
Dec 12 2007, 01:06 PM
QUOTE (Dog Fish @ Dec 12 2007, 08:43 PM)

We know how to manipulate genes, yes. But are geneticists masters of gene engineering? Not by a long shot. There is still so much that must be learned before we it can become common place.
that's why I'm saying that we will turn out to be an enhanced humans.
by my words
outcomes as to how we will evolve into enhanced or advance species
Godzillaaaa
Dec 17 2007, 03:54 AM
I think we will end up with enlarged heads, meaning enhanced senses. Our genes might develope until we are immune to cancer, aids, and other illnesses, with genetic engineering of course. I also think our spines will change, but I dont know how. We will never know....
Roj47
Dec 17 2007, 12:57 PM
QUOTE (Darkwind @ Dec 9 2007, 06:08 PM)

Evolution is an on going, we humans are continuing to evolve. What do think we will evolve into in the future if we can survive our own foolishness?
With more dependancy on technology I guess we could lose the use of legs or just have a power point in our heads? See Dr Who episode.... Whatever it was...

QUOTE (Darkwind @ Dec 9 2007, 06:08 PM)

I think some of us will adapt to space travel. We will become lighter, smaller,
Bang goes the future involving Americans or the Scottish....
QUOTE (Darkwind @ Dec 9 2007, 06:08 PM)

our skin will be come more resistance to radiation,
So Africans, Carribeans and Asians have an advantage?
QUOTE (Darkwind @ Dec 9 2007, 06:08 PM)

and our eyes will become larger to see better in the dark.
Oops.... Remove Asians from the above.
QUOTE (Darkwind @ Dec 9 2007, 06:08 PM)

This is not a discussion about whether or not evolution is true or not. In this thread it is true.
Sounds more like a description of a standard alien to me all this
punish3ment
Dec 17 2007, 03:15 PM
Who says we will change our appearance once (or if) we evolve? There is no reason to suspect future humans will be much different from us. Prehaps they will become more adapted to every day tasks, such as bigger lungs or a higher lung capacity, or a larger, stronger heart. Maybe humans have already become as adapt as we need to be and will have no need to evolve.
enigmo
Dec 18 2007, 07:04 PM
I don't think that we will change in look, but more in beliefs and skills. I also think that we will gain all already known rare abilities.
Here's the list of them :
- Human Abilities -
Absorb energy and/or life force;
Advanced/faster regeneration and/or immortality;
Advanced instincts;
Ascent;
Astral travelling;
Berserk and/or rage;
Control elements, like electrons, protaons, neitrons;
Control time, gravitation, shadows, electricity, magnetism, light;
Course;
Communitate with undead, ghosts;
Cure with mind and/or body;
Forecast future and/or past;
High Jump;
Hypnosis;
Invincibility;
Levitate;
Perform nature elements, like fire, water, air, wind, ashes, sand, ground, metal, ether, wood;
Phoenix ability, reborn from ashes and/or other left evidence;
Poison human aura, vampirism;
Read binary codes, frequency;
Reincernation;
Run up to 72 km/h and/or more;
See at night and/or other hard vision situations;
See heat;
See like x-ray;
See specral beeings, ghosts;
Sixt sense;
Summon;
Super strenght and/or endurance;
Squeeze and/or change body form;
Telepathy;
Teleport and/or change dimensions, Physical, Paraller, Specral, Virtual, Digital;
Travel into other people dreams;
Understand nature,animals;
Uses kineses, like pyrokinesis, telekinesis, pshycokinesis;
Vodoo;
Walk on water;
Nik Xues
Dec 20 2007, 01:29 AM
i beleive man would/should evolve into something like the alien from predator. but with a few differences.
1 opposeable pinkies [increase grip] perfect for tool use.
2 more developed psychic traits due to spirituality.
3 longer limbs for climbing [mix with no1]
4 wider forehead no2
5 more effecient cardiovascular system [due to changing planets]
unfortianately there is the morlok dilema. where man becomes seperate species and one ultimately a predator against the others.
nirvanic
Dec 25 2007, 08:09 PM
some of us psions, are capable of manipulating our genes, it's nothing new, although it's extremely dangerous, i think that in the future our physical appearance, will never change but we will become more spiritual and intelligent, hey, year 2012 is coming, let's wait and see what happens
Legatus Legionis
Dec 26 2007, 05:28 PM
QUOTE (nirvanic demon @ Dec 26 2007, 04:09 AM)

some of us psions, are capable of manipulating our genes, it's nothing new, although it's extremely dangerous, i think that in the future our physical appearance, will never change but we will become more spiritual and intelligent, hey, year 2012 is coming, let's wait and see what happens

2012 won't do " the thing " for us. we must also do our part.. anyway. I believe that we are going to be in a separate species. meaning Humans will have a sub-species.
Uday Appa
Jan 19 2008, 01:37 PM
Evolution of menstruation stopped human evolution some 30 to 40 thousand years ago. Prior to that we became bipedal and lost our body fur. But then on we have stopped evolving mentally.
When today's woman menstruates, she is unaware that in fact her body is shedding endometrial lining to fake expulsion of an embryo or fetus of the defeated male from her uterus.
Evolution of virtues did not take place. Instead, display of virtues prospered under protection of winners’ brutal forces which conditioned our cultures.
We are only frolicking in the idea that we are evolving.
Stagnant water.
Stellar
Jan 19 2008, 08:41 PM
QUOTE
some of us psions, are capable of manipulating our genes, it's nothing new
Yeah... ok.
Raptor
Jan 19 2008, 08:52 PM
QUOTE (nirvanic demon @ Dec 25 2007, 08:09 PM)

some of us psions, are capable of manipulating our genes, it's nothing new, although it's extremely dangerous, i think that in the future our physical appearance, will never change but we will become more spiritual and intelligent, hey, year 2012 is coming, let's wait and see what happens

Go to a university and prove it, and you'll become a millionaire overnight. Do you know how many diseases you could cure?
But of course, you mentioned the word "psion" and "2012" in the same sentence, which effectively proves that you won't produce any evidence.
Atheist God
Jan 19 2008, 10:55 PM
What is the next step up for us?
From a purely scientific view humans will not evolve adapt, we have already evolved to the point where we have mastered adaptation in all the Earths environments. The next step for us will be taken first in the lab.
Physically humans have hit their limit however we still seek to be better, this drive to better ourselves is being seen in science via genetic research, nanotechnology, cybernetics, robotics, AI and so on all contribute to our evolution into a new species.
If we keep progressing as we have people need to ask themselves where will we be in the future?
If we make humanity will become inhuman, people will no longer be born we will be made and sent out among the stars to new worlds because our survival depends on it.
PryOpenUr3rdEye
Jan 19 2008, 11:20 PM
QUOTE (AtheistGod @ Jan 19 2008, 04:55 PM)

What is the next step up for us?
From a purely scientific view humans will not evolve adapt, we have already evolved to the point where we have mastered adaptation in all the Earths environments. The next step for us will be taken first in the lab.
Physically humans have hit their limit however we still seek to be better, this drive to better ourselves is being seen in science via genetic research, nanotechnology, cybernetics, robotics, AI and so on all contribute to our evolution into a new species.
If we keep progressing as we have people need to ask themselves where will we be in the future?
If we make humanity will become inhuman, people will no longer be born we will be made and sent out among the stars to new worlds because our survival depends on it.
I can't help but agree, there is no more dire need to humans to adapt to any environment. Look at the people who live in the arctic circle, why evolve thicker body hair or thicker layers of fat when we bundle up in clothing and warm ourselves indoors and by fires? I think the next advancement in human evolution will be entirely artificial. With technologies like genetic manipulation and advancement of computer/mind interfaces, we will probably become some sort of cyborgs.
Stellar
Jan 20 2008, 03:05 AM
Indeed. As it seems to me, intelligence is actually an evolutionary dead end. With all the sick people we're curing and treating, and so on, we are fighting against evolution. Instead of letting nature determine our future, we are determining it for ourselves.
REBEL
Jan 21 2008, 04:36 PM
Future Human, What does future evolution hold in store for us;
If we somehow don't manage wipe ourselves out first(?)...
''I Part Human Part Robot''

Nik Xues
Jan 24 2008, 08:41 PM
cyborgs
oh thats not future thats present
60% of the body is replaceble [artificial parts]
REBEL
Jan 25 2008, 02:33 AM
Yep, but loaded with micro-chips & hooked up to machines liv'n our lives day by day?..........not yet.
-Anna-
Jan 25 2008, 10:30 AM
Hmm. Maybe like, the world will become really focused on looks, and there'll be one super-ugly race, and one super-hot race.
And our skin will be like, a tannish colour, from everybody mixing races. : D
KBA
Jan 25 2008, 01:51 PM
I'm sure if humans do successfuly branch into the future, whatever it is, it will be amazing.
Hopefully we can do that without letting religion destroy us though. I may sound like a jerk or alarmist for saying that, but people are still being brutally killed for things as simple as sexual preference or philosophical viewpoints.
I like to think of this as humanity vs. the beast, which is also itself.. the "beast" inside everyone that can be coaxed out under ill circumstances. Can humanity remove it? Or will the increased destructive power that comes with technology give the beast a fothold to destroy the humans?
REBEL
Jan 25 2008, 04:13 PM
“I never think of the future. It comes soon enough.” - Albi Einstein
mailman08
Jan 30 2008, 07:16 PM
i reckon we wont make it past 2012, yeah i belive all that mayan calendar crap, but even if we do we will end up wiping ourselves out around that time anyway. take a look at the world its a n a right state kids killing kids over postcodes. it will just get worse as time goes on.
Andromedae
Jan 30 2008, 07:46 PM
Possibly we will become more attractive in all areas,no more spots for instance , among other things,because more attractive people pass on genes
PryOpenUr3rdEye
Jan 31 2008, 12:21 AM
QUOTE (Andromedae @ Jan 30 2008, 01:46 PM)

Possibly we will become more attractive in all areas,no more spots for instance , among other things,because more attractive people pass on genes
Not everybody can be attractive, you would just bump up the standards of which we define beauty, and it would be no different than today. As for future humans, I'm noticing a trend in women wanting intelligence over physical attractiveness in mates (although I could be completely wrong, partially because I don't understand women, haha). Otherwise we would evolve into a future like that depicted in Idiocracy. (If you haven't seen it you MUST! Its hilarious!

)
wiredbadger
Feb 2 2008, 09:23 PM
It is a conflict between the one thing that has proven as an asset for our race and the one thing that is preyed on by our race. Culture. The media using the pioneer work of Skinner for example has learned how to prey on our base instincts. It has managed to dictate to us what we consider viable mating material and what we consider the focus of the optimal foraging strategy. Emotions and the spiritual side of humans is being systematically ushered or manipulated out.Such is the plight of our tribal peoples. This strange 'mover' in our evolution was recognized by people such as Blake and even Mary Shelley.The latter explicitly made it clear her position of technology on humanity in her book.
For fear of sounding nuts or radical i am saying that the rules that governed our speciation up to this point have been changed. A man that is not very well can get prize breeding stock with money.(sorry if that sounds cursive or defamatory, women can do the very same thing). What this amounts to is a strange potential path.
our minds which once were highly symbolic and incredibly creative are made to think in rational abstract forms.(philosophy is a historical representative of humans taking the natural world and ultimately using an abstract form of logic to base intellect on).So, basically we see the world being constructed by rational perception.
In simpler terms its the difference between, she has blonde hair and wears nice clothes versus she has amazing tool making capability and is physically fit to forage for 8 miles.Although generalized, it pretty much spells out what i mean.
this type of mate recognition behavior , so directed , creates a non existent hybridization. Our food is sterilized and pre-chewed for us.As a result since the onset of agriculture there has been a marked decrease in the size of our teeth.medicine has enabled us to fully outlive our natural life spans.So we are in a state of illusion, not naturally healthy or long living by selection and speciation but fortunate to be in this day and age. vaccine shots are an example, of how we manipulate nature and 'how we as we are , are not as we are.'
so, the question of what we will be like in the future is somewhat easy to figure.As we continue to use our impression and perception to mold our instincts and foraging source (like what we deem worth having).it becomes clear that unless we can somehow grab or maintain the spiritual element of humanity we will turn out how our minds want us to be.Which is like not human in the least bit.
our greatest strengths, compassion,empathy,creativity,natural intelligence (which was governed by environment),moral (spiritual) and physical selves are being gradually altered to a strange creature.
which ironically loses identity.an interesting perception would be like decker was to the replicants in bladerunner , which at the end of the movie the leader of the renegade replicants in one last act of benevolence saved decker from falling.such a strong act of compassion should be major in our development, if we are allowed that is to evolve as nature sees fit.yet, it seems that given our strange inability to handle success (opinion) we are altering all that is truly worth saving and keeping in our species.See, culture is the one thing that evolved with us that we sorely need.So much it enabled us to speciate our larynx down to speak and communicate with our race individual members.
where we go, depends on our ability to understand this and how free we are as a race to pursue this.
PryOpenUr3rdEye
Feb 6 2008, 03:09 AM
QUOTE (wiredbadger @ Feb 2 2008, 03:23 PM)

It is a conflict between the one thing that has proven as an asset for our race and the one thing that is preyed on by our race. Culture. The media using the pioneer work of Skinner for example has learned how to prey on our base instincts. It has managed to dictate to us what we consider viable mating material and what we consider the focus of the optimal foraging strategy. Emotions and the spiritual side of humans is being systematically ushered or manipulated out.Such is the plight of our tribal peoples. This strange 'mover' in our evolution was recognized by people such as Blake and even Mary Shelley.The latter explicitly made it clear her position of technology on humanity in her book.
For fear of sounding nuts or radical i am saying that the rules that governed our speciation up to this point have been changed. A man that is not very well can get prize breeding stock with money.(sorry if that sounds cursive or defamatory, women can do the very same thing). What this amounts to is a strange potential path.
our minds which once were highly symbolic and incredibly creative are made to think in rational abstract forms.(philosophy is a historical representative of humans taking the natural world and ultimately using an abstract form of logic to base intellect on).So, basically we see the world being constructed by rational perception.
In simpler terms its the difference between, she has blonde hair and wears nice clothes versus she has amazing tool making capability and is physically fit to forage for 8 miles.Although generalized, it pretty much spells out what i mean.
this type of mate recognition behavior , so directed , creates a non existent hybridization. Our food is sterilized and pre-chewed for us.As a result since the onset of agriculture there has been a marked decrease in the size of our teeth.medicine has enabled us to fully outlive our natural life spans.So we are in a state of illusion, not naturally healthy or long living by selection and speciation but fortunate to be in this day and age. vaccine shots are an example, of how we manipulate nature and 'how we as we are , are not as we are.'
so, the question of what we will be like in the future is somewhat easy to figure.As we continue to use our impression and perception to mold our instincts and foraging source (like what we deem worth having).it becomes clear that unless we can somehow grab or maintain the spiritual element of humanity we will turn out how our minds want us to be.Which is like not human in the least bit.
our greatest strengths, compassion,empathy,creativity,natural intelligence (which was governed by environment),moral (spiritual) and physical selves are being gradually altered to a strange creature.
which ironically loses identity.an interesting perception would be like decker was to the replicants in bladerunner , which at the end of the movie the leader of the renegade replicants in one last act of benevolence saved decker from falling.such a strong act of compassion should be major in our development, if we are allowed that is to evolve as nature sees fit.yet, it seems that given our strange inability to handle success (opinion) we are altering all that is truly worth saving and keeping in our species.See, culture is the one thing that evolved with us that we sorely need.So much it enabled us to speciate our larynx down to speak and communicate with our race individual members.
where we go, depends on our ability to understand this and how free we are as a race to pursue this.
Thats probably one of the coolest (and most accurate) insights I've ever seen on this site.
Lt_Ripley
Feb 18 2008, 04:39 AM
I've always wondered what generations of humans would look like after extensive space travel.
we know that blood pools to the trunk and brain . limb muscles and bones waste even for a short period of time in no gravity. take us away from a sun and what would we have ?
BlueZone
Feb 18 2008, 02:40 PM
QUOTE (Raptor @ Dec 10 2007, 08:48 AM)

Having said that, we're entering a new age of genetic engineering, we're going to be taking charge before long.
I was playing with my new niece the other day and as I looked at her I realized that she might be one of the last few people in my family whose DNA has not been manipulated.
I don't think there will be as much natural selection because in a civilized world people won't die as a result of biological variations, though natural selection will still occur due to disease.
I think that there will be huge space ships which make their voyages over a period of generations (unless we develop warp drive or find galactic worm holes or something). The ships will become closed genetic populations which will each evolve in a different direction. By the time the ship arrives at it's destination, all it's passengers will look like each other and other people will identify them as, for example, Apollonians if their ship was named Apollo.
All the people on earth will look racially similar- medium height, golden brown skin, brown eyes because the current racial groups will disappear. The current racial groups came about because of geographical barriers. Now that those barriers don't limit our travel, we're going to mix it up and become a homogeneous population. The people who's ancestors have participated in space travel will look very odd to the earthlings.
Immediately after Europeans first came to America up to 90% of native Americans died of disease because they had not evolved defenses against European/African diseases. There's a theory that the reason the native Americans were so homogeneous in their lack of disease resistance was that the initial group of people who came over the Bering Strait was very small. The American population were all descended from the same group of people and there wasn't as much genetic variation. If space voyages happen over a period of generations the same thing will happen. Descendants of the original travellers will be homogeneous and have less resistance to foreign disease. This will actually be a big problem when a ship arrives at a new destination.
BlueZone
Feb 18 2008, 03:06 PM
If space flights occur over generations, the initial mission of each ship will get distorted and will become a mythology. Each ship will have a unique culture and human society in general will go back to being divided into small, unique cultures. Some humans will react well to this and others will see foreign cultures as weird and evil. Ships will have to prepare for this when they arrive at their destinations. Although the giant space ship was originally sent to Planet X, by the time it arrives the cultures of Planet X and the ship may no longer be compatible.
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