Pickton now a convicted serial killer

Convicted serial killer Robert (Willie) Pickton will learn Tuesday how long he will serve in jail for the murder of six women who disappeared from Vancouver’s Downtown Eastside between 1997 and 2001.

Pickton, 58, was found guilty Sunday of six counts of second-degree murder, not first-degree murder as he was charged. He is facing another 20 counts of first-degree murder at a second trial, although no date has been set.

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One trial done another to go... then we can watch the movie

Glad to see something is happening with this case.I do not live in America,but do get several American tv channel's and as yet have not seen anything on this.Great link,thank's for the info!
He owned a piggery right,and that is where he disposed of these women.Truly evil.

This happened in Canada not the US of course if you read the article you would know this.

If Canada had Capital Punishment then i would sentence him to death!!!! But no !!!!!! our Government are full of complete idiots.

If Canada had Capital Punishment then i would sentence him to death!!!! But no !!!!!! our Government are full of complete idiots.

no need to be nasty,America and Cananda are pretty much the same.Either way your statement is irrelevant.I only asked a simple question about the case.The article only mentions canada once,and i really don't see the importance of what pointing that ever so slight slip up on my behalf signify's.

I don't think AG was being nasty. Canada and the US are different and most Canadians don't like to be told they are just like Americans.

Anyway, capital punishment would be fitting, however, hopefully some guard will have to take a bathroom break and he will be taken care of. No one will see anything, of course.

uhhh yeah savvy, Canada and the US are totally different...........Canadians can READ

LOL Savvygirl, your in big trouble now, Never tell a Canadian we are just like the states even though we kind of are, but shhhhh don't tell anyone that.

I bet the same thing that happened to Jeffery Dauhmer will happen to Pickton, well at least I hope so

If it hasn't happened to Clifford Olson, I doubt it will happen to Pickton. It's too bad, really....he needs to be in with the general public in prison.

agreed glory

What would putting him to death accomplish that jail couldn't? If he were executed simply out of revenge that would make the government no better then Pickton.

If something like murder is illegal it should be illegal for everyone including the justice system.

Jail keeps him off the streets, it is also highly likely he will die behind bars as the hands of other inmates.

he's a farmer, and a rythless killer. I don't think he's exactly helpless among the company he will be keeping. And convicts aren't gonna be in line to take a poke at a guy who kills for fun. Those types are treated with caution, because for the other killers it was most likely business and not pleasure.

It appears that a movie has already been made, titled 'Killer Pickton'... the movie cover will no doubt cause outrage. Click here to get your fix

I think it should read, "They were devils until the Devil killed them... now they are angels."

a little dislike for the female of the species nuclear?

while i wouldn't do it myself, prostitution is not an evil enterprise. If a woman or man wants to profit from thier bodies it think thats their business. Making it illegal has produced it inot a seedt business. If it was across the board legal then it could be monitored and safegaured. Evil men would prey on them as easily becasue they wouldn't be working the streets they would be in brothels. Many many societies don't view it as a bad thing. And I dare say certain crime statistics would go down.

And what would give you that impression?

It was merely a statement reflecting society's attitude, in general of course, towards such women... 'crack whore', 'meth face'... OH! They're dead... they were 'angels', someones 'baby girl'

not every one is on drugs, some are pros, and pros don't do that stuff, their in it for the money.

I know I watch 'The Secret Diary of a Call Girl', my g/f loves it , but these women... from East Hastings?

I was born and raised in Vancouver... I have driven down Hastings numerous times and have seen women passed out on the sidewalk getting no help from anyone, they could die there and no one would know or care but their death at the hands of a serial killer has turned them into angels... "stolen from us".


The short and sweet.... I say help these people now or pipe down about their deaths and can the "sympathy".

actually i know exactly what yer talking about, i lived there for two years and crossed over onto hastings one day and boy can I tell you it was shocking. People fixing in the streets, people either passed out OD or just plain passed out on the side walk. Yeah I would say hastings is not a drug free zone. Where you at in Van nuclear generally?

Left Van and live on one of the islands now... its quieter, less traffic, hotter girls lol... but the family still lives there, I'll be there for Christmas.

And for clarity(perhaps the short was too short) my comment was again directed at the attitude of society in general... I may be a cold nihilist but nothing puts me off more than sympathy for dead people when there are 1000s alive, fixing and whoring right now that could benefit from the right peoples attention... but as time goes by and the news stops talking about it, people will forget but the same problems with still be here.

you do have a point sir, we have become a more uncarring society, not about ourselves per say, but definitely about others.

I'll be the first to admit it, I gave up on humanity... and, not so, secretly crave its near absolute destruction, save a few to start anew, the rest... I think we deserve it

Well anyhoo, have a good weekend

A guy who kills hookers for fun, are you aware of how many pimps etc are in jail or how many other people like him are locked up? The guy will die in jail because he hunted women something which most people in jail frown upon.



Not just crime but the spread of STD's as well, Nevada is a perfect example of how safe legalized prostitution is. Brothels are regulated and the workers have to be screened regularly for disease. a recent study showed that the risk of obtaining and STD from a Vegas brothel is lower then starring in a *spam filter*.

I think it's wrong that he's getting life and his brother is getting nothing.

I actually met him (and his brother) back when I was a kid (my grandma lives in Port Coquitlam) and we went to see the farm. Even back then, I could tell that Robert was sort of slow. I 100% believe that he killed those women, but that being said there's no chance in hell that his brother didn't at least know about it.

Maybe his bro didn't know, it wouldn't take much to hide such activities from people even your own family. His brother never killed these women Bob acted alone so why should he be punished for something he had nothing to do with.

They lived, and worked together every day. He's suspected in the murder of more than 50 women. There were body parts in the freezer. He knew something, there's no way he can say that he didn't. That being said, I don't think he worked totally alone...I don't think he was smart enough to get away with it for so long by himself, even if the police weren't looking very hard.

He went after people no one would miss from skid row in Vancouver (East Hastings mostly) you don't need to be that smart to know that you could get away with it.

Pickton said he acted alone and his brother said he was unaware... Just because they worked together doesn't mean that he knew what was going on.

What you don't think and what the evidence shows are 2 different things, I go with the evidence as it doesn't take a genius to pick up and kill a hooker no one will miss.

Picking up and killing a hooker is one thing. By the 50th hooker, the brother would have caught on. And he did, he was the one who showed police where the bodies were. (Source). Both of their DNA was everywhere, and they look really similar, he picked up most of the girls in the dark, so anyone that saw one brother, there's a good chance that they would have thought it was the other. And of course he said his brother was innocent, he would get life regardless of whether or not he said his brother helped, and his brother took care of him and the business. By not implicating his brother, they were able to sell the farm and make millions of dollars, which all of the siblings split.

Groans...
Only an Albertian would say that....oh, wait...

Just razzin ya Thongo.

Its just freekin creepy as heck that this has been going on up here, but mass murderers know no boundaries.
Yeah, I think they'll keep in in a secluded portion of the prison, just erks me that now we have to cloth and feed him until he's released... yes I said until he is released, likely in my neighborhood (I'm close to Vernon's notorious Howard House)

He's a very interesting man and I can't wait for more info to come out about him. I'm gonna eat it up.

I personally say let Pickton out to do his work in peace, he was slowly but surely cleaning up the east end.

He got a 26 year sentence and given his age it is highly unlikely that he will survive and if he does get out he will likely be sent to a psychiatric hospital etc somewhere. A lot of shrinks would kill to have a guy like him as a lab rat.

That's just disgusting and awful.

It's true the, the women he primarily killed were responsible for the spread of disease and hopelessly addicted to meth, crack and heroin.

It's not like he was going after people in their own homes...

Hookers get killed all the time they are well aware of the risks on the street when they make the conscious decision to live their lives on it.

Have you ever spoken to any of the women working on Hastings? When I was in school, we would buy them lunch and interview them for our documentary exercises. They aren't bad people, and a lot of them would be in drastically different situations if it weren't for people like you passing them off as being less than human. They have families, a lot of them have kids, and most don't want to be doing what they're doing. Yes, a lot of them have drug problems, but the drug are usually a symptom, not a cause for why they're in their situation.

And how can you blame them for spreading disease? If anything, blame the men paying them.

I hardly think that I and other like me are responsible for their situation.

I grew up in a similar neighborhood and seen similar sights, fact is people like me who do make a living etc and own a home have nothing to do with the way these people live their lives. They could get cleaned up and go and find employment is they so choose. They don't however because of things like addiction and disease as well as growing up in similar situations with their parents.



Actually for a lot of them the drug addiction is the cause not a symptom despite what you think you know. I've seen hookers stab people to death for cigarettes and drug money, I've seen then sharing needles and spreading disease. Some have kids yes whom they then whore out for extra money as well contributing to the child prostitution problem.



I can blame them for spreading disease, abusing children and killing people when they have major withdraw from hard drugs. You can blame men who get aids from hookers who got it from sharing needles with their friends etc.

You certainly can't blame me or anyone else for the way they chose to live their lives either. You see what you want to see not reality, I however see reality because I grew up in a sh** part of town and seen it everyday for years.

I agree as well glory! But i also don,t believe he commited all these murders alone, and we already know that at at least two other people had seen and knew what he was up to, yet they wern,t charged for failing to report the murders! I know the prosecition wanted and used them as witnesses, but i still don,t like that they arn,t facing any charges themselves! And now they have found new DNA that adds yet one one more poor woman to the long list of victims! The whole thing makes me sick!

Well said,Atheistgod!
You have pointed out what is to me,the blatantly obvious.I myself come from a big family and two of my brothers have done the unthinkable because of drug's.Luckily they both saw the ridiculousness of their actions and have since both mended their way's.If only people realized there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

As a proud Canadian I can honestly say that we lay claim to alot of innovators throughout history.......Pickton is not one of them!!!!

There are alot of points in these mass killings that need be pointed out. The fact that Pickton chose prostitutes alludes to alot of variables.

Prostitutes are out late at night.....there are not many people out late at night which equals less witnesses.
These women are willing to get into a strange car late at night.
They are less likely to be missed or less likely to have someone report them missing right away.

Whatever Pickton's motivations for killing prostitutes, whether it be the fact they were easy targets or his mom spanked him too hard , is irrelevant.

The fact that he got away with it for so long has alot to do with the fact that he lived in a rural community, alot of serial killers live in or relocate to rural communities because of the isolation, which allows them to do their deeds with little interference.

Here in Canada its either we don't have alot of serial killers, or they don't caught because of the amount of open space and rural communities and of course less population in comparison to the USA......Canadian Population: 33,132,800
USA Population: 303,024,000

Here's a list of convicted Canadian serial killers:

Paul Bernardo - aka the Scarborough Rapist; Ontario man who killed three teenage girls (including his wife's sister) with the aid of his wife Karla Homolka

Wayne Boden - serial killer active from 1968-1971
John Martin Crawford - convicted in 1996 for the murders of 3 women
William Patrick Fyfe - convicted of murdering five women; confessed to killing four more individuals in Quebec
Keith Hunter Jesperson - Canadian serial killer convicted in the U.S
Russell Johnson - killer of seven women; confined to a mental institution since 1978
Gilbert Paul Jordan - Killed between eight and ten women, by alcohol poisoning
Allan Legere - aka Monster of Miramichi; killer of five individuals
Michael Wayne McGray - convicted of the murders of four individuals; confessed to killing sixteen
Clifford Olson - murdered 11 children in British Columbia
Robert Pickton - aka "Willie" Pickton - charged with the first degree murders of twenty-six women; allegedly confessed to 49 murders. Convicted December 09, 2007 of six charges - reduced to Second degree murder

Peter Woodcock - murdered three children in 1956 and 1957 and a fellow psychiatric institute patient in 1991

And here's a list of American serial killers:

Charles Albright - killer of three; known for surgically removing the eyes of victims
Richard Angelo - aka The Angel of Death; nurse who killed 25 patients
Joe Ball - aka The Alligator Man, killed at least 20 women in the early 20th century in Texas
Martha Jule Beck - one of the Lonely Hearts Killers, along with Raymond Fernandez, killed at least three women and one child in the 1940s but suspected in up to 20 murders

David Berkowitz - aka Son of Sam and The .44 Caliber Killer; convicted of six murders
Robert 'Bob' Berdella - convicted of killing six men in 1988 in Kansas City, Missouri, undoubtedly killed others, sexually tortured and dismembered his victims
Kenneth Bianchi - Californian who with his cousin Angelo Buono were the Hillside Stranglers; killer of 13 women and suggested as possibly involved in three other killings
Richard Fran Biegenwald - convicted of killing five people in the early 1980's in the Asbury Park, New Jersey area. He is suspected in at least six other murders
William Bonin - aka The Freeway Killer; with several accomplices, claimed the lives of 20 boys in California
Robert Charles Browne - Convicted of two murders in Colorado, but says he has killed 48, some of which have been corroborated.
Jerry Brudos - aka The Shoe-Fetish Slayer, killed at least five women
Ted Bundy - aka The Campus Killer, Lady Killer and Chi Omega Killer; law student who raped and murdered more than 30 women in several states
Angelo Buono, Jr. - Californian who with his cousin Kenneth Bianchi were the Hillside Stranglers; killer of 11 women
Dean Carter - murdered at least four women
Richard Chase - aka the Vampire of Sacramento murdered six people in the '70s
Dean Corll - aka The Candy Man; committed the Houston Mass Murders with Elmer Wayne Henley and David Brooks -- Killed by accomplice before conviction
Juan Vallejo Corona - Killed 25 people in the space of just six weeks
Charles Cullen - nurse in New Jersey and Pennsylvania who killed as many as 40 patients through lethal injection
Jeffrey Dahmer - Milwaukee cannibal who kept heads, skulls and body parts in his apartment; convicted of 15 murders, but believed responsible for at least two others
Albert DeSalvo - aka The Boston Strangler; convicted of strangling 13 women
Nannie Doss - aka The Giggling Granny; serial poisoner who killed 11 people: four husbands, two children, her two sisters, her mother, a grandson and a nephew.
Mack Ray Edwards convicted of murdering three children after having confessed to the murders of six in Los Angeles County between 1953 and 1969. He claimed at one point to have killed as many as 18.
Raymond Fernandez - one of the Lonely Hearts Killers, along with his common-law wife Martha Jule Beck; convicted of killing three people but suspected of up to 20 murders.
Albert Fish - aka The Cannibal, The Moon Maniac and The Werewolf of Wisteria; sadist and pedophile who cannibalized several children; convicted of one murder, confessed to two others and suspected in two other killings
Wayne Adam Ford - aka Wayward Wayne; confessed to murdering four women, believed to have killed others
Kendall Francois - Serial killer from Poughkeepsie, NY who targeted prostitutes. After strangling the women, he would store them in various crawl spaces in and around his home.
Joseph Paul Franklin - racist serial killer who targeted interracial couples and attempted to assassinate Larry Flynt and Vernon Jordan; convicted of eleven murders and has confessed to nine others
John Wayne Gacy - aka the Killer Clown; killer of at least 33 men and boys who kept bodies buried under his Chicago home
Carlton Gary - Georgia murderer convicted of the murders of seven elderly women
Donald Henry "Pee Wee" Gaskins - aka the Meanest Man in America; Gaskins, executed on September 6, 1991; convicted of nine murders but confessed to over 200
Janie Lou Gibbs - Georgia poisoner who killed her three sons, a grandson, and her husband
Kristen Gilbert - Angel of Death serial killer, convicted of killing four by injection of epinephrine while working as a nurse
Harvey Murray Glatman - Californian rapist and killer of three women; lured women to pose for "bondage photographs" and would rape and murder them.
Gwendolyn Graham - along with Cathy Wood, part of the Michigan duo who murdered five elderly nursing home residents in their care and claimed to have killed another
Robert Hansen - Alaskan baker who killed prostitutes at his cabin; convicted of four murders but admitted to 11 others.
Donald Harvey - aka Angel of Death; hospital orderly, confessed to more than 80 "mercy killings" with 37 confirmed killings
H. H. Holmes - active 1890-1894 during Chicago's 1893 World's Columbian Exposition; convicted of only one murder but definitively tied to at least 8 more and confessed to a total of 27 {various estimates go from 50 to 200}
Waneta Hoyt - murdered her five children
Philip Carl Jablonski - killed at least four women in Utah
Vincent Johnson - aka the Brooklyn Strangler; a homeless crack addict who killed at least five prostitutes
Patrick Kearney - necrophiliac convicted of 21 murders in California and admitted to 7 other murders
Edmund Kemper - started killing when he was 15 years old in Santa Cruz, CA; convicted of six murders and implicated in four others
Paul John Knowles - raped and murdered 18 people
Randy Steven Kraft - convicted of the murders of 16 young men and boys but strongly suspected of 51 others in California
Timothy Krajcir - confessed to killing over nine women, five in Missouri and four others in Illinois and Pennsylvania
Peter Kudzinowski - killed children in New Jersey in the 1920's
Leonard Lake ex-marine and survivalist who died before trial but who is strongly suspected of having killed at least 11 people and perhaps as many as 25; collected and murdered female sex slaves with accomplice Charles Ng
Derrick Todd Lee - aka the Baton Rouge Serial Killer; convicted of two murders but linked by DNA evidence to five others
Eddie Leonski - aka the Brownout Strangler; convicted of three murders while on duty with the US military in Australia
Henry Lee Lucas - convicted of 11 murders and confessed to about 3000 others, although most of his confessions are considered outlandish; a task force set up to investigate his claims suggested that the true number of his murders may be as high as 213
Rhonda Belle Martin - Alabama poisoner who murdered six family members, suspected of poisoninng at least nine; executed in 1957
John Allen Muhammad - Washington D.C. area sniper; convicted of seven murders so far and awaiting prosecution for nine others
Herbert Mullin - schizophrenic in Santa Cruz, CA who killed people to prevent earthquakes; convicted of 10 murders and confessed to 3 others
Earle Nelson - aka Gorilla Man; necrophiliac serial killer; convicted and hanged for one murder but definitively implicated in about 20 more
Charles Ng ex-marine and survivalist convicted of 11 murders but tied to as many as 25. He and accomplice Leonard Lake collected and murdered female sex slaves
Carl Panzram - murderer, rapist, arsonist; executed in 1930; convicted of two murders but confessed to 19 others
Jerry Parker - convicted of multiple hundrends of killings during his time of a geometry teacher at the secondary school for the gifted.
Dorothea Puente - convicted of three killings but directly implicated in six others
Dennis Rader - aka the BTK Killer; killed 10 people between 1974 to 1991
Richard Ramirez - aka the Night Stalker; terrorized Los Angeles in 1984 and 1985; convicted of 14 murders
Ángel Maturino Reséndiz - killed nine people in Texas, Kentucky, and Illinois
Gary Ridgway - aka The Green River Killer; convicted of murdering 48 women in the state of Washington
Joel Rifkin - murdered 17 women in the New York City and Long Island area
John Edward Robinson - aka the Cyber Sex Killer; lured victims through the internet; convicted of murdering six women
Danny Rolling - pleaded guilty to murdering five students in Florida
Michael Ross - raped and murdered seven women in Connecticut
Robert Rozier - murdered and mutilated seven people for the Nation of Yahweh cult
Efren Saldivar - respiratory therapist who killed six patients, and possibly as many as 120
Altemio Sanchez - aka the Bike Path Rapist/killer who was responsible for three murders and numerous rapes spanning over a 25 year period in Buffalo, New York. He is currently serving three consecutive 75 years-to-life sentences for the murders.
Gerard John Schaefer - aka The Killer Cop and The Florida Sex Beast; police officer who killed up to 34 women and girls
Tommy Lynn Sells - convicted of only one murder; admitted to murdering dozens of people from all over the USA, possibly in excess of 70 although only a total of six are firmly established
Arthur Shawcross - aka the Genesee River Killer; convicted of 12 murders and has admitted to another.
Lemuel Smith - confessed to the murders of five people, including that of an on-duty female prison-guard
Blake Snodgrass - Blake "the beast" Snodgrass was said to kill and devour 15 of his fellow classmates at his school.
Morris Solomon Jr. - handyman killed six young women between 1986 and 1987 in a Sacramento, California, neighborhood
Gerald Stano - convicted murderer of 41 women; executed in 1998
Cary Stayner - aka the Yosemite Murderer who killed four women
Michael Swango - physician and surgeon who poisoned over 30 of his patients and colleagues
William Suff - aka the Riverside Killer who killed up to 19 women near Riverside, California
Marybeth Tinning - New York woman who poisoned nine of her children
Ottis Toole - Henry Lee Lucas's accomplice; convicted of six murders in Florida
Chester Dwayne Turner - murderer of women in Los Angeles, California; convicted of 12 murders and linked through DNA evidence to another
Brandon Walker - tricked his friend Mark, Mark's wife, and his business partner to his cabin out in the woods over the weekend and fed them to his Uncle Billy and made love to his cousin Denise.
Henry Louis Wallace- Charlotte, North Carolina, serial killer of at least nine young women over a two year period from 1992 to 1994
Coral Eugene Watts - aka The Sunday Morning Slasher; although only convicted of two murders, at one point admitted to killing 80 people in Texas and Michigan; possibly guilty of 100 murders
Wayne Williams - aka the Atlanta Child Murderer; convicted of two murders but the police claim his arrest solved 23 others in a string of 29
Cathy Wood - along with Gwendolyn Graham, part of the Michigan duo who murdered five elderly nursing home residents in their care and claimed to have killed another
Randall Woodfield - aka the I-5 Killer; convicted of four murders but believed responsible for 14 others
Aileen Wuornos - shot six men dead in Florida; executed in 2002
Robert Lee Yates - murdered at least 13 women in Spokane County, Washington
Richard Kuklinski - aka The Iceman; a serial killer turned hitman for the New York Mob who killed between 33 and 200 people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_seria..._country#Canada

Holy crap! How many people from BC are on these forums? And have we really been eating hookers? ...... ****!

LOL!
but seriously,i have seen in the news,that police are still finding more bodies on Pickton's property,and the court's will have to decide if the can add more bodies to the case as it is so close to the second trial starting.

I swear to God, I used the "eating hookers" thing to convert friends to being vegetarians. And it worked. And he really did feed the bodies to the pigs, who were then sold for meat.

And now, there are people living on top of where some of the bodies were. When his siblings sold the land, houses started being built on it...They're nice houses, but I don't know how people could live there.

Speaking of eating it up. They used to have pork feast parties on the farm during the killing spree era. Can you imagine finding out you were eating pig that fed on those ladies?

This is just HORRIBLE! Any way you look at this its sad. I think he had help to man where were these womens family? Did they give up on them? Yea maybe some but I guess you can only help those who want help. Did I read that 2 or 3 of these women were not hookers?

Some Americans can read.... *Wishes she was one of them. *