I've been in hiding and on the run since 1998...I dont have a normal life. I'm being hunted by the NWO/usg..and they dont quit...I have enough evidence on them that it keeps them backed off now?..

LMAO!
Even though I never believe a word you say your posts are amusing.

Thanks I am just waiting for when you claim Godzilla attacked you and you had to summon Gamera to save you.


But back to the topic even though I am sure the CIA get up to no good I do not think they are Alqeada.

the ISI,CIA, and mossad....all need to be scrutinized...who sent atta the money..the ISI..who supported the terrorists in Sfla..the CIA...who got arrested in NY cheering the 9/11 attacks...mossad agents...these clandestine agencys are based on fear...99% of the population wouldnt even type this! in fear that the secret agencies will be onto them...theirs nothing in the constitution promoting secret agencies that foment terror...theirs actually things against it...

At least they could "claim" that, but it's not necessarily true.

Al Queda was supposedly the name for a database of useful terrorists that was shared by Western intelligence agencies, so they could employ these terrorists to foment the kind of trouble that was useful for them. It was practically created out of whole cloth, and wasn't something being "infiltrated" but was a creation of the intelligence agencies.

bingo!..we got a winner...

Need to track down the supporting quotes, links, sources, etc,... though

Slowly but surely...


http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...va&aid=7787


Excerpt from article FAKE AL-QUEDA-----CIA


The myth of "al Qaida" is built on an expansive foundation of many half-truths and hidden facts. It is a CIA creation. It was shaped by the agency to serve as a substitute "enemy" for America, replacing the Soviets whom the Islamist forces had driven from Afghanistan. Unknown American officials, at an indeterminate point in time, made the decision to fabricate the tale of a mythical worldwide network of Islamic terrorists from the exploits of the Afghan Mujahedeen. The CIA already had their own network of Islamic militant "freedom fighters," all that was needed were a few scattered terrorist attacks against US targets and a credible heroic figurehead, to serve as the "great leader."

The really tricky part of creating a mythical terrorist monster out of an incomplete truth is laying-out the facts behind your mythical story without revealing the whole truth about your part in its creation. In order to explain away the billions of dollars worth of weapons and training that went into the operation, they chose a rich jihadi, a Saudi millionaire named Osama bin Laden, who had been a faithful recruiter and business agent of the Mujahedeen. He was painted as the sole financier of the entire enormous operation that was centered in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Bin Laden may not even have known that he was playing a part in a deceitful CIA global drama until after the fact. It is more likely that his history was chosen many years later to serve as the legacy of "al Qaida," than it is that he was a brainwashed tool of the spy agency all along.

The story of bin Laden is the story of the secret CIA/ISI insurgent camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan. According to Prof. Michel Chossudovsky, Osama was 22 years old in 1979, when he was trained in a CIA sponsored guerilla training camp near Peshawar, Pakistan.

"Bin Laden family was put in charge of raising money for the Islamic brigades. Numerous charities and foundations were created. The operation was coordinated by Saudi intelligence, headed by Prince Turki al-Faisal, in close liaison with the CIA. The money derived from the various charities was used to finance the recruitment of Mujahedeen volunteers. Al Qaeda, the base in Arabic was a data bank of volunteers who had enlisted to fight in the Afghan jihad. That data base was initially held by Osama bin Laden." http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...va&aid=7746

I think you missed out on this respond.
If Al Qaeda is CIA then Bush is really Bin Laden disguised, probably wearing a high heel.
Why do you think Bush is in the Middle East now? He is giving orders to all the Jihadist(CIA) to continue on the terror for the November election!

first off al quaeda was the designation given to a computer file when we were buddies with the taliban and bin laden-- opposition to the taliban was entered into a file called the "base" as in "data base" and later morphed or personified into usable enemy figurehead-- and the nick berg decapitation was filmed at guantanamo and perpetrated by individuals that were anything but fundamentalist muslims-- lets see how feel about the cia after you review these tidbits of curious anomalies

orange jumpsuit from guantanamo


chair from guantanamo


the victim


military figure caught poking head in from the right


lower jacket from the same figure


imposters


The five so call terrorists are phoney. The one on the extreme right in Photo 6 is pudgy and is wearing very clean tennis shoes. This will not be the case with an Al queda fighter. Also, Photo 6 shows that at least three of them are wearing Israeli Uzi ammunition clips. The Uzi can been seen when the operative on the extreme right adjusts the assault rifle. Look at the garb that all five are wearing. They look like Halloween costumes.

they demolished the wtc with americans still inside and you think a beheading is too immoral? cia in action folks!! lets not forget the admission by howard e hunt concerning lbj and the assasination of jfk

What I see here is nonsense. Articles and writers from the coal bin known as the internet.

Nick Berg looks to me to be in an improvised outfit. And surrounded by militants from the Middle East. I don't argue foreign poilcy. But, I know there are disgruntled militants who are killers.

And, chairs and material are mass produced and distribution these days is worldwide.

http://www.pcusa.org/peacemaking/images/iraq/12.jpg

CIA=FAKE AL-QUEDA


Former Italian President Cossiga says CIA, Mossad behind 9/11

Sun, 13 Jan 2008 01:16:55

Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga says global intelligence agencies assert the 9/11 attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad.

Although Osama bin Laden has confessed to launching the attacks, now all the European and American intelligence services are well aware that the attacks were planned by the CIA and the Zionists' Mossad, Cossiga told Corriere della Sera.

The disastrous attack was aimed to put the Muslim world under powerful accusations and drum up support for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the former Italian president added.

Cossiga first expressed doubts about 9/11 in 2001, and is quoted in Webster Tarpley's book titled 9/11 Synthetic Terror Made in the USA as stating that, "The mastermind of the attack must have been a sophisticated mind, provided with ample means not only to recruit fanatic kamikazes, but also highly specialized personnel.

He went on to add that the attack could not have been accomplished without penetration into the ranks of radar and flight security personnel.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=38514§ionid=351020606



http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...va&aid=7787


Excerpt from article FAKE AL-QUEDA-----CIA


The myth of "al Qaida" is built on an expansive foundation of many half-truths and hidden facts. It is a CIA creation. It was shaped by the agency to serve as a substitute "enemy" for America, replacing the Soviets whom the Islamist forces had driven from Afghanistan. Unknown American officials, at an indeterminate point in time, made the decision to fabricate the tale of a mythical worldwide network of Islamic terrorists from the exploits of the Afghan Mujahedeen. The CIA already had their own network of Islamic militant "freedom fighters," all that was needed were a few scattered terrorist attacks against US targets and a credible heroic figurehead, to serve as the "great leader."

The really tricky part of creating a mythical terrorist monster out of an incomplete truth is laying-out the facts behind your mythical story without revealing the whole truth about your part in its creation. In order to explain away the billions of dollars worth of weapons and training that went into the operation, they chose a rich jihadi, a Saudi millionaire named Osama bin Laden, who had been a faithful recruiter and business agent of the Mujahedeen. He was painted as the sole financier of the entire enormous operation that was centered in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Bin Laden may not even have known that he was playing a part in a deceitful CIA global drama until after the fact. It is more likely that his history was chosen many years later to serve as the legacy of "al Qaida," than it is that he was a brainwashed tool of the spy agency all along.

The story of bin Laden is the story of the secret CIA/ISI insurgent camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan. According to Prof. Michel Chossudovsky, Osama was 22 years old in 1979, when he was trained in a CIA sponsored guerilla training camp near Peshawar, Pakistan.

"Bin Laden family was put in charge of raising money for the Islamic brigades. Numerous charities and foundations were created. The operation was coordinated by Saudi intelligence, headed by Prince Turki al-Faisal, in close liaison with the CIA. The money derived from the various charities was used to finance the recruitment of Mujahedeen volunteers. Al Qaeda, the base in Arabic was a data bank of volunteers who had enlisted to fight in the Afghan jihad. That data base was initially held by Osama bin Laden." http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...va&aid=7746

RED ALERT! RED ALERT!




Blonde hair BlueEYE Westerners, are now somehow tied to AL-QUEDA!


Blonde hair BlueEYE Westerners, are now somehow tied to AL-QUEDA!

Blonde hair BlueEYE Westerners, are now somehow tied to AL-QUEDA



BEWARE OF THE NON-CONSPIRACY THEORIST AMONG YOU, LIKE LEMMINGS THEY ARE, THEY WILL REPORT YOU TO THERE MASTERS IN THE GOVERNMENT!

BEWARE OF THE NON-CONSPIRACY THEORIST AMONG YOU, LIKE LEMMINGS THEY ARE, THEY WILL REPORT YOU TO THERE MASTERS IN THE GOVERNMENT!

BEWARE OF THE NON-CONSPIRACY THEORIST AMONG YOU, LIKE LEMMINGS THEY ARE, THEY WILL REPORT YOU TO THERE MASTERS IN THE GOVERNMENT!


if you happen to carry a backpack or a almanac and maps, (in a big city apparently,) beware the lemmings.


Read below..

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...va&aid=7809

uuhhhh this is my first post

in the early 90's Ossama Bin Laden was trained by the CIA
and the US government gave the Taliban billions of dollers in money and in weapons
i dont know if it has anything to do wth Al Queda but i probably does.......the US government is messed up they are like a huge mob

Well, the President at that time most likely issued the whole project 'al qaeda'. The CIA probably hired Osama Bin Laden to be the leader and blew up the world trade centers as a example of terrorism. Then, most likely in Bin Ladens contract, they went into Iraq for Oil and took out Ladens rival, Sadam. They might have then taken him to a militaristic facility located somewhere secret.

Incorrect. Its not Alqueda.....

It's called "AL-CIADA".

Hah! Lol, pretty clever word play.

This entire topic was created based upon the radical ignorance of how screwed up the Middle East is, has been, and always will be. The Al Qaida, or however you spell those Sons-a-b****es, and the Taliban, were originally funded to help fight the Communist Regime. The Taliban was ORIGINALLY formed to fight Soviet Control over Afghanistan and the nearby Islamic States. Osama Bin Laden, who was rather rich, gave cash to the Taliban, and trained with them, and was funded by the CIA during the Cold War to shrug Communist oppression.

Furthermore, the Middle East has been ****ed up for THOUSANDS of years. It started as the Mesopotamian melting pot, with the Babylonians, Assyrians, and Sumerians fighting each other, along with the occasional Medean stepping in. Then, the Persians tried to conquer all of Greece. The Romans conquered it, and the Israelites tried to rebel, and the Arabs tried to shrug them off. THEN, in the Middle Ages, the Arabs, Turks, and "Persians" (ethnic group from Iran and such) all fought over supremacy with each other and the Israelites. THEN, the crusades started, THEN they fought amongst themselves again, then the Napoleanic Wars, WW1, and WW2 happened, with them doing crazy sh**. Now, they're back to the old, 1000s of years old Middle Eastern past time, of chaos.

It's about time that someone goes over there and slaps them, 'cause the less power the Islamist Radicals have, the less they can suppress Western Democracy, and freedom to have any Religion, or to have a lack thereof. All of you conspiracy theorists about this are complete IDIOTS when it comes to the Middle East, Al Qaida, and such topics, because you assume that all Middle Eastern conflict started within the past 50-60 years. *spits* TWITS.

No it was started based on the reality that Al Queda was originally the name for a database used by western intelligence agencies that want to keep the Middle East screwed up by employing agents-provocateurs and their own pet "terrorists" to use even against their own populations as a sort of bogeyman.

your entire post is from watching to much fox news.....whens the last time alqaeda attacked..9/11?...so this fierce terrorist group cant mount 1 attack in 7 years?....hmmmm

I'm expecting the CIAqueda to release a zawahari tape today or tommorow....he owes his followers answers, and i think the ciaquedas gonna give them...

latest bin laden video...lol

The Rothschild's Family funded the British and the French(Napolean) at the same time.

WOW you watch the news!

You left out that they hate us and want to kill us because

uh... because... uh... we're free and prosperous.

Try thinking for yourself.

and,

I don't mean coke or pepsi.

Here we have a perfect example of a spin.
We went after Al Qaeda so they will be on the run and prevent them from going after us. And when the strategy works the Anti Bush translate that to, SEE! Al Qaeda is not a serious threat, only one attack so far, only several buildings destroyed, 3 commercial planes down and 3,0000 dead in one day.
You call that a serious threat???

Al Qaeda is a name and has no association to anything. Who declares themself Al Qaeda? What Is Al Qaeda? Who made the name? Where did it originate? What is its Meaning?
Al Qaeda is as good as saying Michael. There are heaps of Michaels in the World different religion, beliefs,could be terrorists because mathematically there are millions of Michaels in the World and there is a chance just one is a terrorist. The Michael Terrorist group. Its just a name and describes an unknown people or group that isn't represented by anyone. Al qaeda is a fairytale. Al qaeda is fabricated, I'm more worried about the next door neighbours dog than Al qaeda. Al Goreda. Al Gore was George Bush's worst nightmare. George Bush probably even made the name up.

alqaeda means the Base....it's a database of all terrorists and terror provocaters...

You've been on the run 9 years and yet you post most days. Are you using anonymous proxy servers and hyjacking unprotected routers then?....or do you just go from internet cafe to internet cafe using the evasion training you must have been taught to keep you one step ahead of the worlds largest intelligence agency? I mean i know that the CIA can't track a static IP address to a specific location but if your static they could narrow you down enough to put the squeeze on you. I'm interested how one man has kept ahead of the CIA for 9 years baring in mind they are clever enough to be behind just about everything labelled "conspiracy" by people like yourself. Do tell, i'm sure you won't put your life in danger being your as good as you say you are.

If Osama can do it, pffff anyone can

no it's not one internet cafe to the next....i have proof it tends to keep them at bay...

True, although i doubt he's posting on here most days

you'll have to excuse me if i think you live in a fantasy world, no harm intended.

whatever you like.... you should stick with your moon hoax fantasy...dont derail my thread...

Learn to read, that's not me on that thread, it's someone by the name of LLL, i'm 111 if you hadn't noticed

Oh and i'm not derailing your thread, i'm asking you questions about statements you've made. I appreciate though that you can't answer, it's hard to come up with a worthwhile reply when your exaggerated importance on these matters are a figment of your imagination. Go Figure.

I get you 3 letter debunkers mixed up...sorry..carry on..

CIA, Alqaeda, who stole your wallet, ...

I think pointing the fingers is the wrong thing to do.

I have two interesting links that discuss why pointing the finger is wrong. Simply put, we don't know that the CIA is alqaeda. We don't know ANYTHING. What we are told, and how we are told, make us take decisions and that, is why I think we should ignore knowledge alltogether. You can't trust ANY source because everything is biased, from a personal point of view.

xRef:

http://www.rebo.viens.la
http://beyondtheblog.wordpress.com/2007/11.../#comment-25625

Some information on the websites is irrelevant to the topic, but there is plenty of material which bring to light the reasons behind ommitting theories such as the one posted on this website.

Let us suppose the CIA is Alqaeda. What do we do about it, since supposedly they are responsible for this chaos? We shoot them down? Ok, what if, after that, the chaos goes on?

Maybe we are looking in the wrong direction? Maybe the wrong thing to do is to look in the first place? We aren't even looking, we are simply listening, believing, and then reacting to information that has absolutely no meaning. Simply because it's information that's scary, or sounds good, or is well argumented. That, is, oups, at best.

The point is if we stop listening to our environment and ask ourselves big questions, biiiig questions, such as what am I? What can I really do? And why can't I really do it? And who can really do it? And who really does it? And why can they do it?

The problem with information is that it can also be wrong. Very wrong. In fact, it's much safer to gamble with all your prosessions in the german national lottery. You have better chances of 'winning' a solution than by listening and trusting information. Information is actually 'built', constructed, to manipulate how we act and react. If we ommit this information, all of us, this reality will go, the CIA and alqaeda will simply be a bunch of people who want to have a jolly good time just like all of us. Then we might find out that some people have been deliberately pushing us against each other in order to keep us busy, away, while they, really far away, have a jolly good time, all alone.

In the meantime, some jolly good time is thrown to us like bread crumbs and the most willing to kill for it, gets it. Until they lose the knack then they fall and get crushed and someone else gets a jolly good time instead, and so on. In the meantime, others are always having a jolly good time, and safely, too. Because you can't get to them. Because of information, and knowledge, and beliefs, and laws, and rules, and borders, and VISAs, and well, Canada's just too far away I think.

Euh, well, we can't act either. It's all a mental war. Believe what you want, it won't change a thing. You might get some jolly good time. But chances are before you start enjoying it, you'll get 'knocked down'. So please, spare the FBI, the CIA, Alqaeda, the Illuminati, your neigbour, drug addicts, criminals, and everyone else, because you're homing in on the wrong dimension.

Sincerely,

Cruentos Solum,

Cheers

I posted somewhere on another thread that Osama bin Laden appears to be getting younger and younger in each subsequent videotape and photograph...

Thats cause the CIA and thier Israelie handlers are useing pictures in reverse. Statring with the oldest and working thier way backto birth. They were told by the Greys that it would help in makeing people believe that the US goverment along with the people atlantis were the ones who carried out the attck.

See: The Power of Nightmares; Torrent Link: PoN At Isohunt

And: 911 and the British Broadcasting Conspiracy; Torrent Link: 911 and BB Conspiracy at Isohunt.

You may also like: Wag the Dog; Torrent Link: Wag the Dog at Isohunt.

Enjoy!

1979-1989 CIA Operation Cyclone, with joint funding from Britain’s MI6, heavily armed and trained over 100,000 Afghani Mujahideen (“holy warriors”) during the Soviet war in Afghanistan. With the help of the Pakistani ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence), billions of dollars were given to create this Islamic army. Selig Harrison from the Woodrow Wilson International Centre for Scholars stated, “The CIA made a historic mistake in encouraging Islamic groups from all over the world to come to Afghanistan. The US provided $3 billion [now many more billion] for building up these Islamic groups, and it accepted Pakistan’s demand that they should decide how this money should be spent … Today that money and those weapons have helped build up the Taliban … [who] are now making a living out of terrorism.”

Perhaps as Harrison stated, the CIA “made a historic mistake” in creating these Jihadists, or perhaps they knew exactly what they were doing. Recently declassified DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency) documents prove that the US government was long aware of the ISI’s sponsorship/creation of both the Taliban and Al Qaeda
“The United States has been part and parcel to supporting the Taliban all along, and still is let me add … You have a military government in Pakistan now that is arming the Taliban to the teeth … Let me note; that [US] aid has always gone to Taliban areas … And when people from the outside try to put aid into areas not controlled by the Taliban, they are thwarted by our own State Department … Pakistan [has] initiated a major resupply effort, which eventually saw the defeat, and caused the defeat, of almost all of the anti-Taliban forces in Afghanistan.” -Congressional Rep. Dana Rohrbacher, the House International Relations Committee on Global Terrorism and South Asia, 2000

British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook stated before the House of Commons that “Al Qaeda” is not actually a terrorist group, but a database of international Mujahadden and arms dealers/smugglers used by the CIA to funnel arms, money, and guerrillas. The word “Al Qaeda” itself literally translates to “the database.” Not only did the CIA create the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, they continued funding them right up to the 9/11 attacks blamed on them. For example, four months prior to 9/11, in May, 2001, Colin Powell gave another $43 million in aid to the Taliban.

“Not even the corporate US media could whitewash these facts and so explained it away by alleging that US officials had sought cooperation from Pakistan because it was the original backer of the Taliban, the hard-line Islamic leadership of Afghanistan accused by Washington of harboring Bin Laden. Then the so called ‘missing link’ came when it was revealed that the head of the ISI was the principal financier of the 9/11 hijackers … Pakistan and the ISI is the go between of the global terror explosion. Pakistan's military-intelligence apparatus, which literally created and sponsored the Taliban and Al Qaeda, is directly upheld and funded by the CIA. These facts are not even in dispute, neither in the media nor in government. Therefore when we are told by the neocon heads of the new world order that they are doing everything in their power to dismantle the global terror network what we are hearing is the exact opposite of the truth. They assembled it, they sponsored it and they continue to fund it. As any good criminal should, they have a middleman to provide plausible deniability, that middleman is the ISI and the military dictatorship of Pakistan.” -Steve Watson, “U.S. Intel Officer: Al Qaeda Leadership Allowed to Operate Freely” (http://www.infowars.net/articles/july2007/160707ISI.htm)

Major Pierre-Henri Bunel, a French military intelligence agent, who was framed and convicted no doubt for daring to raise his voice in December, 2001, said, “The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaeda. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the devil only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US and the lobbyists for the US war on terrorism are only interested in making money.” (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3836)

This excerpt has been taken from The Atlantean Conspiracy: www.linktoit.com/atlanteanconspiracy

funny how again there is no focus to capture bin laden. The CIA and Reagan made him , guess cons aren't done using him yet.