A Malawi man accused of beheading his four-month-old nephew has allegedly told police he was promised a car in return for the baby's blood.

Samson Kaudzu, a 28-year-old security guard who worked in the African nation's largest city Blantyre, was visiting his hometown Ntcheu on Saturday when he allegedly beheaded the child.


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His nephew for a car...

this is one of the reason I believe that there is no one looking after us.........

No, this is one of the reasons the death penalty should be brought in and enforced.......

The death penalty is enforced in Africa big time. Fact is a death penalty does not deter would be criminals anyway.

People need to stop acting so outraged when they hear this kind of stuff and just accept the fact that sh*t happens. People die it's life some sooner then expected and I don't expect this will change any time soon.

I guess the baby had a big choice in all this....

Most people who get murdered I'm sure don't choose to be regardless of age

Perhaps it is about time that people DID get outraged at such an act on a four month old kid!

Complacency is one of the biggest flaws. In the end everybody gets desensitized and does nothing, all going about their merry way regardless as to whether atrocities are happening or not.

If I had a four month old baby and someone did that to him/her, I would sure hope that people would not be so blase about it and comment that "**** happens" - I guess that is easy to say though, after all it would not be happening to them.

But wait: what about the man's side of the story?

Hmmm...you can't drive a baby. You don't have to change a cars diapers. Baby...car....baby...car....? Hmmm...what to do, what to do? Cars are there when you need them...babies wake you up in the middle of the night. Cars only require gas and oil....babies turn into teenagers. Car...teenager....car teenager....

...honey, can you bring me the machete please?

I am one of those people incapable of outrage however that doesn't mean I condone killing a baby for a car. Facts are facts though this kind of stuff happens all the time and has since the dawn of our species.



Emotions are a human flaw, the few of us who have a lack of human emotion are simply incapable of really giving a sh*t when it comes to such things. I don't fear death, I don't hate people or love them either. This however does not mean I am complacent it just means that in this case I don't think it's that important that people get all upset over something that has nothing to do with them.



Even if it did happen to me I would say the same thing the reason of course is because it's fact. I have always admitted online anyway that I am cold.

One thing to remember here is that every action you take in life always carries with it some risk of something happening. In the case of kids someone could abduct them or they could die by some other means. Nobody ever thinks it could happen to them but I am a realist and see things for what they are.

I highly doubt most people could see things from my perspective, I am just incapable of being sympathetic.

If someone tried to kill me or was going to while I wouldn't want it to happen of course I don't fear it and I wouldn't hold it against the person.

Does it bother you that people get upset when they hear about this 'kind of stuff’?
I think most people are well aware sh** happens. Horrible things happen to good innocent people every day and it will continue to happen, but does this mean we shouldn’t give a damn when we hear about it?

And since you’re (as you claim) incapable of having sympathy, I highly doubt you will ever truly understand the perspective of those of us who are capable. Why not just accept the fact that people will be outraged over such atrocities no matter what?

No I just think it's pointless, there are far more important things in the world that people should be outraged about as opposed to focusing on things like this.



It does mean you shouldn't give a sh*t, this stuff isn't happening to you.

"A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic." Joseph Stalin

The above quote rings true, everyone gets upset when they hear about one death but I rarely see outrage for the millions killed by governments all around the world.



I do accept it I just don't understand it, I think it's pathetic to be honest.

I hardly consider 1 death an atrocity... How come you people never talk about how outraged about the 300k+ dead in Cambodia or the 60 million killed in Russia etc.

Actually Atheist I consider **** happens as being something like walking in dog's mess and treading it indoors, or the toilet overflowing or the potatoes boiling dry, things like missing the bus, going to the cinema only to find the movie you wanted to see is now not being shown, being late for work due to a train being cancelled etc etc.

I do not, under any circumstances consider a heinous act by some lowlife to be termed as **** happens.

I am not that keen on some people either, however, it doesn't hurt to have a bit of compassion for others even if there is nothing that can be done.

Just for the record, "one" life is not something that should really just be dismissed when murder is in question especially when it is over some idiotic notion that a car is more important than a human life - there should be more respect than that.

Professing to being unemotional also professes to feeling no love for another person, whether it be love in a boy/girlfriend stake or unconditional love - I respect you feel that way, but the way you are coming across seems as though you would quite happily let others suffer as long as you are okay. I could have it totally wrong however, just letting you know.

But it does happen and all the time to people of all ages, I guess it really boils down to luck and some are unluckier then others.


To me this is a waste of energy.

I don't worry about others or have compassion for people even if I know them.


A human life to me is no more important then the life of an ant. A life is a life yet I don't see people freak out when a bug get zapped just because they are seen as an annoyance or when someone shoots an animal for sport etc.

People support the murder of others to save money as opposed to keeping them locked up for their crimes yet I rarely see people get outraged over this.

I find people place a higher value on human life then all other life on the globe...

Other animals kill within their own species and humans are no exception to the rule.



I don't love people although I do become fond of certain people around me and like to have them around. I could live a life of solitude however and it wouldn't bother me in the least.

Like I said I don't condone killing a baby for a car but I cant feel bad nor do I wish to. If someone was going to kill me I wouldn't hold it against them and hate that person, I wouldn't be outraged nor would I fear my fate because as I said sh*t happens even to good people like you and you can only hope your lucky enough to not be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Sounds like serial killer material to me.

I assure you if I was a serial killer I wouldn't be as open about myself to you as I have been. I fully admit to being a sociopath and while this increases my risk for someday committing murder and becoming a full out psychopath I don't see it happening. Am I capable of committing murder? No doubt in my mind I could do it and not think twice about it but I however restraint is the key word here.

So people should just stand around with their fingers in their ears singing 'lalala' until it does happen to them? If everyone adopted your logic and no one gave a sh-t, no one would do anything, right? No cops patroling the streets, no army to protect you when another country invades. It's pretty obvious that there would be countless people running around murdering, raping, stealing, and all that other fun stuff because no one would oppose them. When there's no one to stop them, they will do it to you. If no one stood up for what they believed in, or enforced laws simply because it wasn't their problem, it would become their problem.

So, if a person doesn't want it to happen to them, it would be a good idea to give a sh-t.

So you don't care about anyone else, especially someone you've never even met before. I understand that. The sentence I quoted threw me off though. It just doesn't make much sense to be. It seems that getting outraged and fighting to put some guy behind bars could actually prevent it from happening to you. Better than standing around doing nothing; that just gives them a chance to do it to you. That's how I see it, anyway.

If you don't have a problem with this act...you are sick and need to seek help. Don't even bother to quote and reply to this if you are one of those people. It is so incredibly disgusting that someone would exchange a life of something that cannot have possible done anything wrong. an innocent. one not yet tainted with the ways of the world. SICK.

This man doesn't need counselling....



























He needs to get tied to the back of that car and dragged around

Yes well in the interest in remaining a thread participant and not a thread topic i will just be really mad about this.

Sociopath = a person suffering from a personality disorder characterized by asocial or antisocial behaviour, such as a psychopath

By any chance are you seeing someone about your disorder - you have, in effect, admitted that you are prone to this? You may not care about others, however, I am damned sure they care about themselves and their families, friends, neighbours, work colleagues and many other people.

Don't rely on "restraint" - it may be your key word, but personally speaking, I wouldn't rely on you restraining yourself if I were around you.

I am not being picky nor am I intending to harrass you, but your words throughout this whole Thread and your total indifference to the suffering of others indicate you need help.

Either that or you are on one big wind-up?

People are killed for less then a car just because...

People place a higher value on human life then other life because of ego. What makes a human life more important then an insects life? Every living thing plays it's part in the world and thus no life is more important then another. I highly doubt you become outraged when someone swats a fly which only does what it needs to in order to ensure it's survival.

I also don't consider myself sick nor do I need help. I don't hold it against you for thinking so...



What would dragging me behind a car accomplish? Nothing I haven't harmed anyone, I don't hate anyone.

You on the other hand would love nothing more then to harm me simply because I am different

You who shows outrage at murder then goes on to wish it on others who don't share your outrage. This is hypocritical



There are countless people even in the harshest of police states who run around murdering, raping and stealing. Fact is there always has been and I doubt this will change any time soon.


Giving a sh*t prevents nothing, I don't want it to happen to me but at the same I realize that it could.



With crime on the rise and jails becoming cramped and over crowded it is highly unlikely that locking people up prevents crime.



A perfect example of how people allow their emotions to drive their judgment. Why become angry over what someone says on the internet it's a waste of energy.

You are hypocritical. Suddenly, someone suggests doing something to you and you are on the defensive simply because you state "I haven't harmed anyone, I don't hate anyone etc etc"

No doubt that baby didn't harm anyone nor hate anybody either!

You cannot see this point, people will not see yours, this is what happens when you are indifferent .

No I haven't seen anyone about it actually I have not had a reason too. Not since I was a kid anyway and had to go for psych evaluation,



I wouldn't rely on me restraining myself either under various circumstances. However I haven't been tested under extreme situation where I may lose control.

As it stands now I have not harmed anyone nor have I had the desire too i live a pretty sheltered lifestyle.



I just don't view human life as anymore important then another life I doubt this will change even if shrinks did poke and prod me for the rest of my natural life.

It does happen, but it's not a constant thing. The people who do this are usually punished for it. If they weren't, there would be a crapload more crime out there. If people didn't work to stop it, it would certainly happen way more often.


Why doesn't it? Giving a sh-t gives people the will to prevent something. If you didn't give a sh-t, you wouldn't want to prevent it. But most people do want to and try to prevent it. Why? Because they care. Because they give a sh-t about what happens. Pretty simple.


It stops the people locked up from committing a crime and deters some people from committing crimes. There are always exceptions, however.

How am I hypocritical? I never really went on the defensive nor did I hold it against Crtbud for saying I should be dragged behind a car. I was merely inquiring how a person could be so outraged at the taking of one life while supporting the taking of another.

Crime is the result of social and economic problems most of the time. Putting more police on the streets and threatening people with jail or even death has proven ineffective. The state murders more people and has the highest rate of unnatural death of the 20th century with 150 million +.



No one can prevent their deaths, we all have to die sometime some sooner then others.



1 out of 33 adults in the US are in jail etc and the crime rates steadily climb. This tells me that most criminals aren't deterred at all by jail or execution.

It's rising now even with the cops. You think it would get better if they all stopped working? Stopped caring? You think that these people protecting should just quit, because it isn't effective enough? You'd rather people ran around like animals simply because 'It's going to happen anyway. Why try to prevent it?'

Seriously though, the rate of murders are bad now. The reason that there aren't even more murders happening is because someone, whether it be a friend or family member of the would-be murderer, or a cop who stops it from happening, there is someone that gives a sh-t and makes a difference.


Everyone has to die sometime. I agree with that, obviously, but a person can stop themselves or others from dying unnaturally. For example, say there is a murderer pointing a gun at someone, about to pull the trigger, and a man who cares comes around the corner. The man sees it, and cracks the killer in the back of the head with a rock and knocks him unconscious. Has he not prevented the murder of someone? Now why did he prevent this murder? Oh yes, because he gave a sh-t.


Keyword there is 'most.' While some people are just too far gone to care what happens to them, or some get too cocky and think the cops won't catch them, there are tons of people out there who will not commit a crime because they don't want to go to jail. Just because it doesn't work on everyone doesn't mean it won't work on someone.

There aren't more murders because social and economic hardship is not worse. There are reasons why crime is higher in poor areas as opposed to rich ones, the numbers don't lie.



Hitting someone in the back of the head with a rock could in turn cause death and the person who used the rock would likely get charged with assaulting someone with a deadly weapon or murder. If someone really wanted to kill someone they would simply do it not wait around long enough for someone to see them find a rock and crack them in the back of the head.

This being said if I seen this it's better them then me as far as I'm concerned, why take the unnecessary risk of getting seriously injured or worse. You would be surprised how fast people will run at the first sight of a gun as opposed to being heroic. It's easy to say that you would try to stop someone from killing another but after growing up in the hood I can assure you 95% of the population wouldn't take the risk.



If someone is going to commit a crime they will do it not everyone is a criminal or have the need to commit a crime.

That's great. You still didn't answer any of my questions though. You don't think a family member or friend could talk someone out of murdering someone? You don't think a police officer could prevent a crime? Granted, they don't prevent every single one, but it does happen. You'd have to be blind to say otherwise.


I wasn't talking about you. You don't care about anyone. Okay, we get it already. Still, you avoided the fact that some people (No matter how many you claim wouldn't do it, some would and that's what I'm talking about.) would help someone else simply because they give a sh-t about people's lives. They may go to jail, which I highly doubt considering that they just saved someone's life, but the fact doesn't change that they did it because they cared. These things do happen, yet you still deny that someone can make a difference because they give a sh-t? That's exactly what I'm trying to get through to you and you keep dancing around it.

And yes, some people would just sit around long enough for someone else to see them. Not all people are like you without emotions. Some criminals never really set out to kill someone, or when the time actually comes, they hesitate. Not to mention that there is always the chance that the stranger walked around the corner just in time. The killer may may have only been standing there a second.


If someone wants to commit a crime, it doesn't always mean that they will. Where are you getting this stuff from? There are so many things that can factor into it. Yes, emotions, for one. Do you think that every single person who has thought about robbing a bank or killing someone has actually done it? Of course not. You generalize too much.

AthiestGod.

Just because someone is going to rape your daughter doesn't mean you don't lock the windows and the doors. You can't accept bad stuff happening as an inevitability. I have a friend that is a thief. If you leave your doors and windows open he will take your stuff...if you lock it you keep your stuff.

There is no inevitability involved people make choices in the path of unscrupulous people. it is up to us to prevent bad people from doing bad things.some can be avoided and some can't. but turning a blind eye is stupid because you are leaving it open for you to become the next target, you and your family. That is a weakness. your whole line of thinking is incredibly cowardly, and ignorant. But thats fine because you will keep turning a blind eye, someone will target you and the rest of us will call it population control.

Emotions are not just a "human" flaw. Emotions are pervasive in the animal kingdom. Have you never had a cat or dog? Have you ever watched a "wild kingdom" type program and saw a mother seal crying at ocean's edge for her pup that was just eaten by an orca? How about the wailing of an adult seal while her cub is being slaughtered...
Someone posted an article, somewhere on UM, about a 7 year old boy and his "pet" python... you should try and find it and then tell the readers emotions are a "human" flaw. You can also go to the National Geographic web site for this information.
Elephants are a good example of how emotional animals can be. Monkeys too. Chimps. Apes...
The list goes on and on...

An example of how life is cheap. The last car i bought cost me £20. £20 for a human life.....

... hmmm, okaaay... so you're this African man who chopped his Nephews head off? That's who I was referring to

I don't think I even read any of your posts, I was referring to the man in the article... you know, what this thread's about

That's all I'm going to address because everything following that statement is inherently irrelavent.

crtbud. eye lub u

so see I told you. now they need to investigate this guy and see if he flushed anything in a toilet on "accident"

Well if he had flushed the baby remains, I guess I'd have to admit it proooobably wasn't an accident in this case

Meh... sh** happens

Uhm.. I mean.. OMFGWTFBBQ!!! I shall furiously type on my keyboard and express my outrage until tomorrow when I go in search of another story that causes me to become outraged

Some people here are clearly addicted to reading these stories to get outraged about something everyday... get a hobby

<3 AtheistGod

I'd just like to say that I agree very much with some of the ideas you have expressed.

Um what if this is our hobby.

and um there arent any letters i can string together that describe people coming on and insulting people for being on...none that i can string together on a thread anyway

"Outraged", perhaps?

I agree with AthetistGod. It's funny that someone mentioned the death penalty...shows how stupid people really are.

Not as stupid as killing a baby for a car!

However, I guess magical and blood rituals take precedence in some cultures eh

no. apathy doesn't outrage me. worry me a bit. makes me wonder if im talking to the kind of people that would behead a baby for a car. but outrage me no. What is outrageous is that we are having this coversation because someone beheaded a baby over a car. I mean isn't there some adult who's life was that worthless?

It may have been some blood ritual, blood of a baby needed - hence reward the murderer with the promise of a car if they do the dirty deed.

The whole thing is weird to be honest.

you see. i just.....innocent is innocent you know. I mean there are people out there that i can almost see myself going...yep I would do life to gank this dude....but not a baby thats soooooooooooooooooo unforgivable

They do take precedence in some societies, sacrificing people and animals has always happened.

People have killed for less reasons then getting a car...

If someone killed a baby for a car to ensure the survival of several people it would be a worthy exchange. To quote Soock in Star Trek 2 "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few".
How do we know that this guy really needed the car to generate an income to feed 10 kids in which case it would be a fair trade, one life sacrificed ensures that several lives can continue.

Why are people so outraged over killing a baby for a car? What would make you happier, a helicopter?

The reward for the deed should not be relevant.

Some of these responces are pretty crule and "lame."
Some are informative and not heartless.

We are all human, and those that push away the fact that the human emotion for remorse is evevitable.

I'm sorry, but dont gamon say that, thats just life and Its been happening since the start of time.
After all these thousands of years I would have hoped that those smart enough can see weve evolved to be and think higher than barbarians.

Yeah the Uncle deserves to die, slowly and painfully in the mothers eyes.
Yes, weve evolved, not for the better, for some have grown to be Monsters.

Well said, Melissa. I guess for some it's easier to go through life pretending you dont care, rather than facing the world and t's many isues.

Some pretend not to care what happens to others and some like me genuinely just can't.

Other peoples issues are not my concern and why should they be, the only problems that concern me are my own.



Humanity hasn't changed despite various advances.

Some of us are just born predisposed to be what you would call heartless, cold, monsters etc. Some of us due to unfortunate events in our lives become this way.

You must also remember that although we are ahead socially and economically in the west a large chunk of the world lags behind it's reality.


He will die... you can't judge the entire world based on this story which comes from a part of the world which is war torn and 'barbaric'.

Well it's odd because you sure seem to show emotion and have the ability to care in your posts on other threads...lol!

I think you'd LIKE to believe that you are unable to feel much emotion, but your posts in other threads give you away. You care about stuff enough to post. That says enough.