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Atheist God
I will first start off here by saying that I am a realist who knows that people can be controlled and manipulated and are in fact now as we speak.

Also I will not be providing any links as most of what I know came about during meetings with colleagues in which we discussed and researched the idea.

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The people involved seek power over others, it really does all come down to control which is being achieved as I type this post.

How?

To break it down they are using several methods in which to establish a global dictatorship.

1: Influencing global policy as well as undermining nations domestic policies. This is achieved by paying off politicians to submit laws and bills as well as vote for them in their favor. No single method alone is enough to get the job done.

2: Depopulation, this is achieved as well by no single method. A smaller number of people means that it is easier to manipulate the populace, when it is all said an done there will be no more then 2 to 500 million people left.

3: Eugenics/Genetic engineering and mind altering drugs etc, the NWO will establish itself as the worlds first scientific dictatorship. Using science they will make the population accept their circumstances no matter how dire they may be. As opposed to giving the people the illusion of freedom we will simply be no longer psychologically capable of opposition.

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They have been hard at work to model a new world which they will control. They have been making significant progress too, while many say it looks good on paper but it will never come to be I say your wrong.

Already we are seeing the rise of super states which are designed to undermine national sovereignty and constitutions. Eventually these super states will be begin to systematically merge forming the first global government which the UN will eventually evolve. People will then be forced into tightly cramped cities while those who oppose will be sent to death camps to be processed.

The plan is sheer genius to be honest with you guys, what tells me this as I've said before is the fact they can work in plain sight with little to no opposition.

I am astonished that people aren't aware of whats happening considering that they are operating under their noses.
1.618
QUOTE (AtheistGod @ Dec 17 2007, 02:24 PM) *
I will first start off here by saying that I am a realist who knows that people can be controlled and manipulated and are in fact now as we speak.

Also I will not be providing any links as most of what I know came about during meetings with colleagues in which we discussed and researched the idea.

==

The people involved seek power over others, it really does all come down to control which is being achieved as I type this post.

How?

To break it down they are using several methods in which to establish a global dictatorship.

1: Influencing global policy as well as undermining nations domestic policies. This is achieved by paying off politicians to submit laws and bills as well as vote for them in their favor. No single method alone is enough to get the job done.

2: Depopulation, this is achieved as well by no single method. A smaller number of people means that it is easier to manipulate the populace, when it is all said an done there will be no more then 2 to 500 million people left.

3: Eugenics/Genetic engineering and mind altering drugs etc, the NWO will establish itself as the worlds first scientific dictatorship. Using science they will make the population accept their circumstances no matter how dire they may be. As opposed to giving the people the illusion of freedom we will simply be no longer psychologically capable of opposition.

==

They have been hard at work to model a new world which they will control. They have been making significant progress too, while many say it looks good on paper but it will never come to be I say your wrong.

Already we are seeing the rise of super states which are designed to undermine national sovereignty and constitutions. Eventually these super states will be begin to systematically merge forming the first global government which the UN will eventually evolve. People will then be forced into tightly cramped cities while those who oppose will be sent to death camps to be processed.

The plan is sheer genius to be honest with you guys, what tells me this as I've said before is the fact they can work in plain sight with little to no opposition.

I am astonished that people aren't aware of whats happening considering that they are operating under their noses.


Sounds cheerfully opptimistic, i must say.
unit
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what tells me this as I've said before is the fact they can work in plain sight with little to no opposition.
I am astonished that people aren't aware of whats happening considering that they are operating under their noses.


that's just it though, isn't it.. they don't actually operate in plain sight and it's not actually happening under our noses.. rather they operate in shadow and the stench of their deeds assails our noses tongue.gif

they can't really just come out and say what they mean can they?
girty1600
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1: Influencing global policy as well as undermining nations domestic policies. This is achieved by paying off politicians to submit laws and bills as well as vote for them in their favor. No single method alone is enough to get the job done.


This sounds alot like what can become of the soon-to-become global eco policies. Oil politions have accepted bribes for years and now the green folks are starting to see more "green". Domestic policy for any nation doesn't stay unchanged for long if you measure it in decades. Public outrage is the vehicle for political change but not everyone will fall under the spell of mob mentality. Large groups of people become dumber with every number they attract but individual people remain inherantly smart and coherant. Don't lose faith int he human race just yet.


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2: Depopulation, this is achieved as well by no single method. A smaller number of people means that it is easier to manipulate the populace, when it is all said an done there will be no more then 2 to 500 million people left.


I would have to disagree. The more people you control the more power you actually have. Great leaders in history have prided themselves in leading large masses of uneducated people.
I for one am an advocate of depopulation and I've done my part, ask me how sometime.

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3: Eugenics/Genetic engineering and mind altering drugs etc, the NWO will establish itself as the worlds first scientific dictatorship. Using science they will make the population accept their circumstances no matter how dire they may be. As opposed to giving the people the illusion of freedom we will simply be no longer psychologically capable of opposition.


Without amazing medical advances our planet wouldn't have humans walking around leading average lives with peanut allergies, epileptic motorists and bipolar accountants. With no natural predators left for humans mother nature tries like hell to thin the heard to little avail. World population is growing at an alarming exponential rate with the mentally challenged breeding faster than the intelligent folks.

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unit
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I for one am an advocate of depopulation and I've done my part, ask me how sometime.

i suppose now's as good a time as any..?

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Don't lose faith in the human race just yet.

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the mentally challenged breeding faster than the intelligent folks.

ah great.. i'll put my faith in a peanut eating epileptic bipolar accountant wink2.gif

frenat
QUOTE (AtheistGod @ Dec 17 2007, 09:24 AM) *
2: Depopulation, this is achieved as well by no single method. A smaller number of people means that it is easier to manipulate the populace, when it is all said an done there will be no more then 2 to 500 million people left.

Wouldn't a smaller population make those in control more visible? And thus easier to be found and overthrown?
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (AtheistGod @ Dec 17 2007, 08:24 AM) *
I will first start off here by saying that I am a realist who knows that people can be controlled and manipulated and are in fact now as we speak.

Also I will not be providing any links as most of what I know came about during meetings with colleagues in which we discussed and researched the idea.

==

The people involved seek power over others, it really does all come down to control which is being achieved as I type this post.

How?

To break it down they are using several methods in which to establish a global dictatorship.

1: Influencing global policy as well as undermining nations domestic policies. This is achieved by paying off politicians to submit laws and bills as well as vote for them in their favor. No single method alone is enough to get the job done.

2: Depopulation, this is achieved as well by no single method. A smaller number of people means that it is easier to manipulate the populace, when it is all said an done there will be no more then 2 to 500 million people left.
3: Eugenics/Genetic engineering and mind altering drugs etc, the NWO will establish itself as the worlds first scientific dictatorship. Using science they will make the population accept their circumstances no matter how dire they may be. As opposed to giving the people the illusion of freedom we will simply be no longer psychologically capable of opposition.

==

They have been hard at work to model a new world which they will control. They have been making significant progress too, while many say it looks good on paper but it will never come to be I say your wrong.

Already we are seeing the rise of super states which are designed to undermine national sovereignty and constitutions. Eventually these super states will be begin to systematically merge forming the first global government which the UN will eventually evolve. People will then be forced into tightly cramped cities while those who oppose will be sent to death camps to be processed.

The plan is sheer genius to be honest with you guys, what tells me this as I've said before is the fact they can work in plain sight with little to no opposition.

I am astonished that people aren't aware of whats happening considering that they are operating under their noses.

Well, we sure as heck need depopulation. So I will agree with them on that.
unit
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Wouldn't a smaller population make those in control more visible? And thus easier to be found and overthrown?

i would agree with that.. i think what OP may be suggesting tho' is at that stage these 'masters' will be out in the open anyway..

If i am strong enough to force my family into carrying me around on a chair, more power to me, and the neighbours all look on in awe..
but when my family goes and tells the neighbours of my immorality, and they start telling their neighbours, and so on.. suddenly nobody wants to talk to me, nobody wants to look at me in awe, and suddenly my neighbours are throwing rocks at me and exhorting my family members to stop carrying me around..

at this stage if i engage the angry mob they will seek to destroy me outright.. so i start destroying my familys ability to communicate, and make them feel like crap, and put it in their heads that they need to carry me around..


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Well, we sure as heck need depopulation. So I will agree with them on that.

i could agree with that to an extent, but 'they' are the ones who encourage the populating in the first place, for various reasons.. usually when there is a shortage of cannon fodder.. now that all these surplus souls are here.. why do they have to suffer for somebody elses mistake?
frenat
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Dec 17 2007, 04:09 PM) *
Well, we sure as heck need depopulation. So I will agree with them on that.

I wouldn't agree. The world is plenty capable of providing food for all the souls on the planet right now. The current problem is more one of distribution. Not all those that need food are getting it.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (frenat @ Dec 17 2007, 05:29 PM) *
I wouldn't agree. The world is plenty capable of providing food for all the souls on the planet right now. The current problem is more one of distribution. Not all those that need food are getting it.

It will not get better and what is the point of expanding more and more. Its not helping the world. The more people, the more war, more religion(which causes most war, and the increasing amount of mental illness. I think a mandatory limit to procreating should be law.
Atheist God
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This sounds alot like what can become of the soon-to-become global eco policies. Oil politions have accepted bribes for years and now the green folks are starting to see more "green". Domestic policy for any nation doesn't stay unchanged for long if you measure it in decades. Public outrage is the vehicle for political change but not everyone will fall under the spell of mob mentality. Large groups of people become dumber with every number they attract but individual people remain inherantly smart and coherant. Don't lose faith int he human race just yet.


Public outrage in many nations say 50 years from now will no longer exist, this is because as opposed to previous dictatorships this one will make people accept their circumstances by whatever means necessary including mind altering drugs in our food and water.

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I would have to disagree. The more people you control the more power you actually have. Great leaders in history have prided themselves in leading large masses of uneducated people.
I for one am an advocate of depopulation and I've done my part, ask me how sometime.


Every empire that prided itself on controlling large numbers of people always failed.

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Without amazing medical advances our planet wouldn't have humans walking around leading average lives with peanut allergies, epileptic motorists and bipolar accountants. With no natural predators left for humans mother nature tries like hell to thin the heard to little avail. World population is growing at an alarming exponential rate with the mentally challenged breeding faster than the intelligent folks.


Population control can be done responsibly to thin the heard in such a way that it doesn't threaten the entire species.

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that's just it though, isn't it.. they don't actually operate in plain sight and it's not actually happening under our noses.. rather they operate in shadow and the stench of their deeds assails our noses tongue.gif

they can't really just come out and say what they mean can they?


They do operate in plain sight, they have always relied on people not paying attention to their activities which is why they have been successful thus far.

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Wouldn't a smaller population make those in control more visible? And thus easier to be found and overthrown?


Under normal circumstances yes.

They seek to make people psychologically incapable of opposition, those left who do oppose will be separated from the rest of the population and likely killed for their troubles.

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It will not get better and what is the point of expanding more and more. Its not helping the world. The more people, the more war, more religion(which causes most war, and the increasing amount of mental illness. I think a mandatory limit to procreating should be law.


They do this in China already, by law people can only have one child.

However there are problems with this in China due to their cultural desire to have boys and not girls which is resulting in a crises where now there are 30 million more men then women.

unit
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I wouldn't agree. The world is plenty capable of providing food for all the souls on the planet right now. The current problem is more one of distribution. Not all those that need food are getting it.

common sense will get you nowhere with these people because they do not have common sense wink2.gif
*edit* these people = controllers & the hopelessly controlled

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It will not get better and what is the point of expanding more and more.

yeah. if we all sit on our asses how does one expect it to get better..? are space aliens gonna save us?
the rest of that was answered by others

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They do operate in plain sight, they have always relied on people not paying attention to their activities which is why they have been successful thus far.

(Groundskeeper Willy) Oooh! good comeback! and you're right when you say it like that wink2.gif even their darn snooty architecture and symbolism is littered throughout ancient and modern history.. but.. as you say.. nobody is paying attention.. well, some of us are.. but we're all kooks wink2.gif

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However there are problems with this in China due to their cultural desire to have boys and not girls which is resulting in a crises where now there are 30 million more men then women

just more testament to the fact that nothing good comes from trying to 'manipulate' nature

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Population control can be done responsibly to thin the heard in such a way that it doesn't threaten the entire species

another nice one from AthiestGod.. i will have to keep an eye on you original.gif

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mind altering drugs in our food and water.

fluoride v2.0 anyone?

ok there's no point agreeing with eachother.. where's all the skeptics when you need them?
aquatus1
What's to be skeptical about? AtheistGod made it clear that he has no sources, giving his claims as much validity as the guy claiming bush and the queen of England are lizards.
Unlimited
QUOTE (aquatus1 @ Dec 18 2007, 12:10 PM) *
What's to be skeptical about? AtheistGod made it clear that he has no sources, giving his claims as much validity as the guy claiming bush and the queen of England are lizards.

blink.gif globalization and new world alliances are shaping up daily...how do you equate this with bush being a lizard?....hmmm
aquatus1
QUOTE (Unlimited @ Dec 18 2007, 12:15 PM) *
blink.gif globalization and new world alliances are shaping up daily...how do you equate this with bush being a lizard?....hmmm


I don't. I equate the concept of a claim concerning a lizard president and lizard queen, made without evidence or sources, to be the same in terms of validity as a claim regarding a New World Order made without evidence or sources. Ultimately, they are both opinion pieces, and thus don't really attract the attention of a skeptic. There is nothing to validate.
Atheist God
QUOTE (aquatus1 @ Dec 18 2007, 06:10 AM) *
What's to be skeptical about? AtheistGod made it clear that he has no sources, giving his claims as much validity as the guy claiming bush and the queen of England are lizards.


I assure you that lizards have nothing to do with any global dictatorship.

Besides the queen and Bush have no real power anyway...

As for my sources I do have them but most of my research and discussion groups regarding the subject were done outside the web with scholars etc.

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I don't. I equate the concept of a claim concerning a lizard president and lizard queen, made without evidence or sources, to be the same in terms of validity as a claim regarding a New World Order made without evidence or sources. Ultimately, they are both opinion pieces, and thus don't really attract the attention of a skeptic. There is nothing to validate.


If you can invalidate my claims then go right ahead... However don't lump what I say with the like of David Icke.

I am sure I can go online and provide numerous sources official ones too, however you will then just equate these sources to mere coincidence and say it's BS anyway. Fact is there is a ton of evidence whether you believe it or not and what I said is not just opinion I am mostly summarizing what I have observed over the last few years.

I don't see any invalidation of my claims here.

Decades before events happen they are already planned for example the rise of the super states which were born under the guise of so called trade agreements, the merging of currencies, and so on...

I will also reference you to secretive groups like the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission and the CFR in which the world most powerful people from all over convene and steer policy in secret.

Look into them and their publications pertaining to global governance.





aquatus1
QUOTE (AtheistGod @ Dec 18 2007, 08:50 PM) *
I assure you that lizards have nothing to do with any global dictatorship.

Besides the queen and Bush have no real power anyway...

As for my sources I do have them but most of my research and discussion groups regarding the subject were done outside the web with scholars etc.

If you can invalidate my claims then go right ahead... However don't lump what I say with the like of David Icke.

I am sure I can go online and provide numerous sources official ones too, however you will then just equate these sources to mere coincidence and say it's BS anyway. Fact is there is a ton of evidence whether you believe it or not and what I said is not just opinion I am mostly summarizing what I have observed over the last few years.

I don't see any invalidation of my claims here.


Decades before events happen they are already planned for example the rise of the super states which were born under the guise of so called trade agreements, the merging of currencies, and so on...

I will also reference you to secretive groups like the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission and the CFR in which the world most powerful people from all over convene and steer policy in secret.

Look into them and their publications pertaining to global governance.


I think your expectations colored your reading.

I stated, three times, that there was nothing in your posts to validate. The reason why is very simple. Without sources, how can the data be validated? I explained that twice, and I explained that this was ultimately an opinion piece, just like the lizard idea. When questioned about the lizard idea, I expanded on how the actual idea is irrelevant; the relevant part was the lack of validating sources.

Of course you don't see any invalidation of your claims here. In order for something to be invalidated, it has to be validated to begin with. None of the things you have posted have been validated.
Bill Hill

QUOTE (girty1600 @ Dec 17 2007, 04:04 PM) *
I for one am an advocate of depopulation and I've done my part, ask me how sometime.


How?
Lilly
QUOTE (aquatus1 @ Dec 18 2007, 01:57 PM) *
I don't. I equate the concept of a claim concerning a lizard president and lizard queen, made without evidence or sources, to be the same in terms of validity as a claim regarding a New World Order made without evidence or sources...


Oh yeah, the old "without evidence or sources" claims...otherwise known as "wild unsupported speculation". linked-image
Unlimited
QUOTE (Lilly @ Dec 19 2007, 11:51 AM) *
Oh yeah, the old "without evidence or sources" claims...otherwise known as "wild unsupported speculation". linked-image


yes the chinese expansion into the western hemisphere is just wild unsupported speculation?...the NWO is right under your nose...
Cradle of Fish
QUOTE (Unlimited @ Dec 19 2007, 12:07 PM) *
yes the chinese expansion into the western hemisphere is just wild unsupported speculation?...the NWO is right under your nose...


Powerful countries trying to expand their power is evidence of a NWO? If that were true why didn't they sieze power in ancient greece? Or in the wake of one of the many many world changing wars in the past two thousand years.
Bill Hill

Ah Let's see the NWO, well, naturally the lizards overlord are in control and they.... (gulp)
about turn and slowly leaves thread.. aquatus1 is posting! er Good luck Athiestgod, you're gonna need it. He's good.
runs...away

747400
It will succeed? Excellent, can't wait for it to get started so we can get rid of this tosspot Brown.
tribalactivity
With Chinas high population of Male to female ratio seems like the perfect way for a Communist country to build an army without the population realising it. China will go to War cos it will self destruct anyway
girty1600
QUOTE (Billy of the Hill @ Dec 19 2007, 06:43 AM) *
How?



What? Oh that. Hubby had the snip and I'll be on birth control until I can have my tubes tied.
Atheist God
QUOTE (Lilly @ Dec 19 2007, 05:51 AM) *
Oh yeah, the old "without evidence or sources" claims...otherwise known as "wild unsupported speculation". linked-image


I did provide sources though I came to my conclusions by reading publications made by groups like the Trilateral Commision, UN, CFR and others all of which preach global governance. Those who deny it are unwilling to look into these groups and their members. The most secretive of these groups by far is the Bilderberg group, very little information is known about this group except it's membership which is leaked to the media from the inside.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (AtheistGod @ Dec 22 2007, 12:19 PM) *
I did provide sources though I came to my conclusions by reading publications made by groups like the Trilateral Commision, UN, CFR and others all of which preach global governance. Those who deny it are unwilling to look into these groups and their members. The most secretive of these groups by far is the Bilderberg group, very little information is known about this group except it's membership which is leaked to the media from the inside.

Lets say you are correct. Nothing will change. People as a whole will not buy it.

I wish I could go work for them. I bet the pay is good. original.gif
seffy
QUOTE (aquatus1 @ Dec 18 2007, 12:10 PM) *
What's to be skeptical about? AtheistGod made it clear that he has no sources, giving his claims as much validity as the guy claiming bush and the queen of England are lizards.


Oh please. The Queen isn't a lizard, she's a Werewolf. Have you never watched Doctor Who? grin2.gif
Live4Truth
For a second I was glad to see that the New World Order was being discussed here. At least until I started reading this thread. American's are truly masters of double standards. Is our nation so morally bankrupt that its citizens would welcome the New World Order eugenics plan?? Being free individuals, who decides what individuals have the right to control other individuals? How? Who?

It is near impossible to break through the brainwashing wall anymore. I pray for us.
Mekorig
After a while, i still dont understand that fer for "super-estates". Like it or not, to more organization, people tend to create those super estates, be bigger tribes or bigger nations. Soner or later we will need thos super-estates if we want to expand to the stars.
radish
QUOTE (frenat @ Dec 17 2007, 11:29 PM) *
I wouldn't agree. The world is plenty capable of providing food for all the souls on the planet right now. The current problem is more one of distribution. Not all those that need food are getting it.


Yes, there is enough food for all. Why is it always the people who don't contribute money (taxes) or labor who are denied food or resources and left to die by the millions? I always thought this was part of population control. Kill off the useless people. Very suspicious to me.
radish
QUOTE (AtheistGod @ Dec 22 2007, 06:19 PM) *
I did provide sources though I came to my conclusions by reading publications made by groups like the Trilateral Commision, UN, CFR and others all of which preach global governance. Those who deny it are unwilling to look into these groups and their members. The most secretive of these groups by far is the Bilderberg group, very little information is known about this group except it's membership which is leaked to the media from the inside.


Keep thinking outside the sheeple box, AtheistGod. We need more like you.
Unlimited
QUOTE (radish @ Jan 6 2008, 04:17 PM) *
Keep thinking outside the sheeple box, AtheistGod. We need more like you.


The NWO is already here..people dont need to speculate when and if it's coming....just look around.
Rolci
NWO WILL happen, ppl ARE being brainwashed, UK is the great testing zoo. The british are told to do this, the british are told to do that, and they willingly do. Smoking ban? Fine. Noone smokes in public places anymore. They are planning on widening the plan: no smoking in your own homes, suckers. And they will do as they're told. They are always mentally prepared for the next stunt, it's all in the papers. When an article says "next time they will tell us who is allowed to have kids with whom so we only make children with genes good enough to serve society", it is NOT a sign of dismay, it is to mentally prepare these poor suckers for what is to come. And when it does, they're all prepared already, noone will act against it. Do ppl protest against ANYTHING in the UK? Hardly ever, but I bet those are organized on purpose so the ppl think there will be some ppl who will stand up when the time come, but there WON'T. This country is a damn test chamber, and the working methods will be used worldwide. For example, have a look at this forum: The summary can be found here: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...=109244&hl= and the original thread here: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/mess...howdate=9/24/05 It begins with "I am a member of an Elite Family who you despise...ask me a question and I will answer them in short. Why? Because I can." Oh, how helpful of them all of a sudden. Also, check this one out: http://youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98 The guy says: "That's the one thing that nobody's talking about". Oh I wonder why. Because you have JUST let everybody know in your f*cking sneaky way, as if it was supposed to be common knowledge! http://youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA&feature=related "End the US as we know it"? North American Union? Well, good to know. Is there ANYBODY out there who says it isn't even REMOTELY possible that the world is not coming to a unification?? Maybe you should watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UouRwSa0Ybs&NR=1 (I don't even have a TV and only read the papers to have a laugh at these idiots). Anyone seen Zeitgeist? You guys can see at the end of most of these that the time to act is now. It's all true, it's all happening, you can see it in the news programmes, because it proved to be the good way in the "test chamber" to prepare our minds. So what's it gonna be? I dunno, but I think at the first sign of all this sh*t coming to the conclusion, I'll just f*ck off into the Amazon Jungle and join some tribe. grin2.gif Noone's gonna implant no f*cking chip into my brain... What are YOU going to do???
Discuss
Worth checking out Dr John Colemans books on the NWO subject here's a lecture from some time ago, and if your an American you want to watch it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=170819614143019768

I thought the smoking ban was introduced in the US first so I am not sure we are the testing ground, but when the ban took place in 2000 they forget to inform you on TV that they were going to increase the levels of nictoine in fags by at least 10%. Govt still wants to kill you!
Enigma wrapped in a puzzle
QUOTE (AtheistGod @ Dec 17 2007, 02:24 PM) *
I will first start off here by saying that I am a realist who knows that people can be controlled and manipulated and are in fact now as we speak.

Also I will not be providing any links as most of what I know came about during meetings with colleagues in which we discussed and researched the idea.

==

The people involved seek power over others, it really does all come down to control which is being achieved as I type this post.

How?

To break it down they are using several methods in which to establish a global dictatorship.

1: Influencing global policy as well as undermining nations domestic policies. This is achieved by paying off politicians to submit laws and bills as well as vote for them in their favor. No single method alone is enough to get the job done.

2: Depopulation, this is achieved as well by no single method. A smaller number of people means that it is easier to manipulate the populace, when it is all said an done there will be no more then 2 to 500 million people left.

3: Eugenics/Genetic engineering and mind altering drugs etc, the NWO will establish itself as the worlds first scientific dictatorship. Using science they will make the population accept their circumstances no matter how dire they may be. As opposed to giving the people the illusion of freedom we will simply be no longer psychologically capable of opposition.

==

They have been hard at work to model a new world which they will control. They have been making significant progress too, while many say it looks good on paper but it will never come to be I say your wrong.

Already we are seeing the rise of super states which are designed to undermine national sovereignty and constitutions. Eventually these super states will be begin to systematically merge forming the first global government which the UN will eventually evolve. People will then be forced into tightly cramped cities while those who oppose will be sent to death camps to be processed.

The plan is sheer genius to be honest with you guys, what tells me this as I've said before is the fact they can work in plain sight with little to no opposition.

I am astonished that people aren't aware of whats happening considering that they are operating under their noses.


2 to 500 hundred million eh? Ummmm thats a big spread you are figuring there. You math is basically saying 2 million or 25 times that amount, could you not come up with anything more accurate?

500 million people across the world would be like living in a ghost town. Now if we had 2 million people left it would be like 1 person per city. This would be a genicide that would not be possible for all to survive. If they drop the population that low then there would be no economy and in my opinion the world would be done.
Rolci
they'll just bombard the world's major cities. That's y greater development and convinience is present there, to urbanize yer brainz, so u guys flock there, and then BOOMMMM... Byebye Kansas! The remaining towns will be far away to act together. Too bad. U guys better start diggin, make a home underground, buy sh**loads of tinned stuff to eat, and... be prepared. Or just say this is BS and die. original.gif

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=170819614143019768 - cool video
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (Rolci @ Jan 6 2008, 06:03 PM) *
they'll just bombard the world's major cities. That's y greater development and convinience is present there, to urbanize yer brainz, so u guys flock there, and then BUUMMMM... Byebye Kansas! The remaining towns will be far away to act together. Too bad. U guys better start diggin, make a home underground, buy sh**loads of tinned stuff to eat, and... be prepared. Or just say this is BS and die. original.gif

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=170819614143019768 - cool video

BS. Wow.
How happy can your life be thiningk like that all the time.
Rolci
how touching. but dont u worry about my being happy, i dont live in the US, luckily, and work in the UK temporarily, will get outta here way before they start stirring sh** up there for you. and since i dont watch tv i havent forgotten (havent been brainwashed out of knowing) what hapiness takes. I'm not on this forum to read about conspiracy theories (CTs). I'm into AP and other psychic phenomena. And particularly don't THINK about conspiracies - none of my concern, they can't get me where I live. I read into CTs every now and then to have a good laugh. Poor ppl... They know the end is coming, and they won't do anything ORGANIZED about it... Merely acquiring info won't help you. RUN AWAAAAY!!! Nowhere to run? Sure there is. You'd lose comfort and high standard of living? Better than losing your lives... Adaptation... But you should know better. Ignorance is bliss.

"It isn't what you have, or who you are, or where you are, or what you are doing that makes you happy or unhappy. It is what you think about." (Dale Carnegie)

"Happiness is like a butterfly. If pursued, it will elude you, but if you sit still, it will come and alight on your shoulder." (Henry David Thoreau)
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (Rolci @ Jan 6 2008, 06:56 PM) *
how touching. but dont u worry about my being happy, i dont live in the US, luckily, and work in the UK temporarily, will get outta here way before they start stirring sh** up there for you. and since i dont watch tv i havent forgotten (havent been brainwashed out of knowing) what hapiness takes.

"It isn't what you have, or who you are, or where you are, or what you are doing that makes you happy or unhappy. It is what you think about." (Dale Carnegie)

"Happiness is like a butterfly. If pursued, it will elude you, but if you sit still, it will come and alight on your shoulder." (Henry David Thoreau)

No tv. No fun. No happiness. You are just a bundle of joy.

I love the US. I have a great family & friends. If I have to be like you to have this supposed truth, then I will pass and enjoy. Good luck on your "end of the world" thing. Send me a t-shirt.
Rolci
"I have a great family & friends."

How many times I've heard this by the British. Can't blame them. From their point of view, sure. As a non-british, I can see how POOR human relationships are in this country. And any non-british who lives here will tell them. No real emotions, no sincere friendship. I know what they mean by the word "friend". Well, it's just too sad that's all they know. But like I said, I don't blame them. How should they know there is so much more??? This is all they've ever seen. This is the lifestyle, the "friends", the ideology of materialism, and I could go on and on, this is all they've seen, so this is all they can COPY... They haven't lived anywhere else so that they'd have a base for comparison. They are simply unaware of what they are missing. They say if you don't know of sg, it can't hurt. Someone spat in your drink. You drink it. You don't die, no consequence. Still, when you find out what they did and who did it, you'll get furious. But if you don't find out... You think you're fine, and won't understand why others look at you the way they do. And you think you're cool. Ppl here in the UK just PRETEND they're happy. And guess what. I saw this article in the papers a couple of months ago but I still remember it like it was yesterday. The title was sg like this: Let's admit: trying to look happy makes us all miserable. It was a letter sent in by a british woman, who dared to speak out on this thing that is otherwise a taboo in "developed" countries. You don't need to be a foreigner to realise this. However, when a foreigner comes to this country, I can assure you, they are disgusted by this pretentious behaviour, the lack of sincerety, all the false smiles and "alright?"-s ("how are you?" lost it's meaning decades ago, "alright?" is out-of fashion, but poor men have run out of vocabulary for this lie). Of course they will explain to you it's only a form of being polite. Politeness is ok, as long as it goes along with sincerety, not REPLACE it... This whole country is all about lies, but you don't realise this from the inside if you were born and grown up here. Of course, if you are a foreigner, as you spend more and more time within the country, the more you grow to accept these "customs". Making "friends" with them and watching their utterly stupid soaps will "help" you with this. With letting go of your human values. Like REAL friendship. It's the same in the US. On the large scale. I'm not saying YOU are one of them. There are exceptions. I know 1 couple over here who have genuine friends. Well, sort of... Close enough. But the sad truth is... Most ppl lack these friends. And I HAVE approached them with this, trying to find out from the very ppl I'm talking about, what they think about this. They said they HAVE such ppl in their lives. I said who? "My family." I said that's it? yes. That's it. Apparently they dont have Friends, because they don't NEED friends. Work, go home, sit down to have dinner on the sofa, watch TV meanwhile, or go to the local pub, to chat with their "friends". Oh. Great life. But there is so much more to life... Oh. You don't wanna know.
As for family... over 50% of marriages end up in divorve. Need I say more? What do the kids get from their parents? Love, caring and attention? Nooo. PS3? Yeees. Sure these kids will know a lot about life, friendship and happiness when they grow up. Is there any point in continuing with this? Nobody will change their lives anyway. What you don't know of, you don't miss. And they'll tell you they're happy. While they're miserable...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1699115394525569176 If you find it too long, just watch between minutes 1-3. Deep enough.
vindicatedmeh
So....for that matter...what are we gonna do now?knowing all of those things....???????????????
Rolci
For a start, you can throw away your brain-washing equipment (called a TV) and get a life. If you think you've already got one - think again, and get a better one. wink2.gif
Or don't think, watch TV, and let it do the thinking FOR you. It's alright. Pas de Lieu Rhone que Nous.
Discuss
What are we supposed to do?

Tell your friends and family, and then get them to tell their friends and family, and then hopefully one day every one will get rid of their TV's and possibly the banking cartels behind the governments when people start seeing the wood from the trees

I have been trying to get my friends to watch Zietgiest, Disclosure Project but half of them can't be arsed because there PC isn';t there TV and they don't have a 50" wide screen, but I think this stuff is amazing cant believe they held a press conference in May 2001 under a national security classification so none of it made to a mainstream news media.

Press Conference
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1225940639035132599

Disclosure Pt 1 & 2

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=65...h&plindex=2

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4694075066240662837

Zietgiest
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/

louie
I watched Zeitegeist and found it very intresting an informative, i passed it on to all my friends and posted the link on myspace. a few people have said how much they like it but i was suprised at it was the least people i expected, but it should be passed around, spread the word.
Rolci
Once I got a BRITISH guy I know (who is some bigshot leader at a large site of Ford Motor Company) to watch The Corporation (Michael Moore). Anyone seen that one? He had a brand new dvd player with his plasma TV, but 4 sum reason it would play the cd only half-way through, so he missed the point. No way he'd watch it on the computer tho. Too bad, those are the guys who'd learn about this sorta stuff first. If they won't act tho, cuz they r afraid of losing their jobs, then no point. You got these guys working for the insurance companies, Area 51, and companies close to secret societies to confess what they know only when they'd left. So they ain't got any power, influence any more. And all they can do is give a short description of the sh*tty businesses they were involved in, or the high-tech stuff they were trying to decypher and reverse-engineer, sobbing how sorry they are and how afraid they were. Also from Michael Moore, anyone seen Sicko? Bit different stuff, but again, helps open your eyes, make you realize how f*cked up goverments and corporations are. Money and power. No human values, and especially, no love? Anyone doubting the importance and power of love? Unconditional love? But think for a minute. The local councils will send you letters explaining you why we need to recycle, not waste water, keep streets clean... How kind of them to care for us. Then the goverments giving speeches about how important security is for a country an so on. All can be achieved by having us, human beings, develop unconditional love. Have you EVER heard ANY politician talking about the importance of Love? I seriously doubt you have. This alone is the best proof that EVERYTHING they say in meant to be part of a big-big project the main goal of wich is one thing: misleading the public, the human race. Make us lose whatever human values we have left. Courtesy, Honesty, Sincerety, Friendship, long gone. Love is dying out. What do you think the word "Family" will mean to the average citizen 20-30 yrs from now? Economical unit? Something designed for breeding? Or there won't be such a thing, we'll be grown like in the Matrix? There will be farms of human beings, we will be genetically engineered, like in Aldous Huxley's Brave New World. You should read that one. Oh, you don't read. Well, time to start. Start using your brain, your imagination, which you need for proper hobbies, along with creativity, these things go hand-in-hand. Carving from wood... I hope I'll pick that one up one day. Build your own house from wood from scratch... A dream I hope to accomplish some time. Living in cities makes you exposed, vulnerable. Illuminati, governments or terrorists, they'll nuke the cities, only a matter of time. Also you've got these loads of mentally ill ppl in the cities, all stressed and burnt out. And all these modern diseases most of which didn't even exist 50-100 yrs ago. Poor creatures. Human existence is in a crisis. I wouldn't feel sorry if THIS sort of civilization got wiped out by a 3rd world war. I know it might sound harsh. But this must end. And if you read stuff like James Redfield's Celestine Prophecy, you may have an idea of what to do. And that's just what I'm gonna do. Every man for himself.
REBEL
I've always kinda wondered about Anacondalizard Rice? w00t.gif


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