There is an extinct dinosaur called stenonychosa that according to Canadian scientists evolved into a reptilian manlike creature as seen below.



Below is a drawing of what is known as a Reptilian. They look identical to humans until they transform into their original image which is Reptilian looking.




Illustration from the Book Children of the Matrix by David Icke

In Gen.6 we are told that the angels came down and mated with human women and in turn they women bore giant sons known as the Nephilim. But this does not explain all the half human and half animals of the past that were worshiped as gods. But if look in the book of Enoch we find a major clue.

"And they (the Nephilim) began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones."

Obviously giant men can not have sexual relations with a fish never mind producing offspring. The early records of the ancient Submersions record that the gods mixed their DNA with mankind in a more scientific way. In other words it was done in a test-tube. This has to be how the Nephilim corrupted the seed of all living creatures on earth. This is why the flood had to come and clean the slate of this massive DNA meltdown.

It also says in Genesis that the angels came down again after the flood to mate and have more Nephilim children who went on to build world empires. It was at this time Israel was to exterminate all the Nephilim tribes around her which were over 20 in the Old Testament. Not only that, they were not only to exterminate all the hybrid women and children, but they were also called upon to kill off all the animals. They were not allowed to eat the animals or take them. If the Nephilim were still corrupting seed, this mysterious action of killing all the animals becomes very interesting. It becomes clear that the Nephilim were at it again producing human animal hybrids.




Conclusion

When the angels came down to mate with women, many of them carried reptilian genes as seen with the Seraphim who were "fiery serpent."Their seed may have produced reptilian Nephilim who then went on to spread their seed among all creatures. From mammals they would produce the giant sized dinosaurs. From fish the giant sea serpents. One of these sea creatures in scripture was called Leviathan who breathed fire. Is it any coincidence that it breathed fire if it carried the DNA of "fiery serpents." known as the Seraphim angels.

I believe that the Reptilians that people encounter today are a product of DNA mixing and mating. Unlike real humans they are known to change their shape to look like humans. They are very intelligent and and appear to walk among us. It is when they become very stressed or angered that they loose the human form and revert back to their original Reptilian form. Al Gore was seen on a live television feed doing this exact thing. See http://stargods.org/GoreShapeShifted.htm I personally did not see this but a close friend of mine did and I have also come across many other people on the net who saw it too. Apparently according to these people, Al Gore looked very stressed and angry at the time. One day I would like to find a film of it on the net!

In India human Reptiles are known as the Nagas. Information on them can be found at:
http://www.khandro.net/mysterious_naga.htm

Also there have been many reports of people sighting Reptilians in caves. Folklore seems to indicate that there are other reptilian men that live in the earth but cannot come to the surface as the other ones can. They live in the earth as a separate society. For more information refer to the Dulce Book by Branton at: http://www.title14.com/ufo/dulce/


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Below is a dinosaur fossil


Rear Footprint of pelycosaur (mammal-like reptile)
Probable trackmaker: Dimetrodon
Ichnotaxon: Dimetropus nicolasi
From the famous Permian redbeds in Southern New Mexico
Heuco Formation (Approx. 280 million years old)

Is this a fossil of a hand or a foot? Notice it has five fingers (or toes) like a human!




Background Information

Cherubim
From:http://www.pantheon.org/


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Winged creatures who support the throne of God, or act as guardian spirits. They appear in the Bible (the book of Ezekiel) as bearing the throne and chariot of God, and hence later conceived as a type of angels. They are also mentioned in Genesis 3:24 as guardians (or protectors) of the Garden of Eden. They were placed at the gates of the Garden to prevent humans from re-entering and thus gaining access to the Tree of Life. They also formed the mercy seat on the Ark of the covenant (Exodus 25:18-20).
In Jewish and Christian religion they are second in the order of angels, directly after the seraphim. They were usually depicted as angels with four wings and four faces (human, lion, bull and eagle). Artists in later times made them appear as the chubby, rosy-faced, winged infants of which they are known today. They are usually clothed in blue, while the seraphim are clothed in red. They originated from the winged and human-headed bulls of Babylon (also named cherubim), a lesser order of deities, which guarded the gates of the royal palace. -End of quote-Emphasis mine.



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Left. Man with eagle face. Right man with human face.
............................ ...................Mithras The Lion Headed God
Drawing of ancient Sumer Tablet

Seraphim
More quotes from:http://www.pantheon.org/


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"Divine creatures from the Old Testament, associated with the Cherubim, and later taken to be angels. The root of Seraphim comes either from the Hebrew verb saraph ('to burn') or the Hebrew noun saraph (a fiery, flying serpent). Because the term appears several times with reference to the serpents encountered in the wilderness (Num. 21.8, Deut. 8.15; Isa. 14.29; 30.6), it has often been understood to refer to "fiery serpents." From this it has also often been proposed that the seraphim were serpentine in form and in some sense "fiery" creatures or associated with fire."

Note: In ancient times many of the gods were called the "Shining Ones." The word Lucifer means Shining One. If Serpintine angels fell and mated with women in Genesis 6 and had children, obviously the physical offspring would be reptilian by nature. See pictures below article. -Webmaster-

"It is said that whoever lays eyes on a Seraph, he would instantly be incinerated due to the immense brightness of the Seraph. They are described as very tall, with six wings and four heads, one for of the cardinal directions. One pair of wings are for flying, one for covering their eyes (for even they may not look directly at God), and one for covering their feet (which is almost certainly a euphemism for genitalia). They are in the direct presence of God.

In Isaiah's call-vision in the Temple, he sees Seraphim surrounding the throne of God, singing praise to God; the "Thrice Holy" hymn (ch 6). In this instance they are angelic beings but in the Book of Numbers, seraph-snakes are sent to punish the Israelites.




SOURCE: http://www.stargods.org/ReptilianAngels.htm

So, Egyptian, you are proposing a supernatural, rather than sci-fi origin? Essentially that the "reptoids' are the nephilim offspring of the Serephim dragons? As to the "shape-shifting" aspect, do you have any theories as to how such could be accomplished?

P.S. There are plenty of political and business leaders that are jerks. Critisize them for the wron they do. It is unnecessary (and wrong) to (literally) de-humanize them. That track just lowers your own self.

Shape shifting? Youre saying the evolution aspect right? ITs very simple, same principle as humans evolving from monkeys

this 'stenonychosa' Dinosauroid, looks a lot like the Dinosauroid Dale Russell speculated Troodons might have evolved into... if they hadn't gone extinct...

Troodon

E_I, No one with ample common sense would consider David Icke as a Reliable Source!

and E_I if a human with polydactylsm lived in the ancient times and leaves a foot print, would you consider the fossillised footprint and declare the find as a new species??

Source - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosauroid#S...fic_speculation

E_I, you are mixing up two different subjects -

The first One is a Thought Experiement as detailed in above quote - Just a What-If Scenario. This doesnot provide any proof that dinosauroids did evolve. It was just a speculation.
The second is pictures and excerpts from books of David icke, aun reliable conspiracy theorist!

Mixing information to present a theory is not so nice. stick to one train of thoughts and research on it.

Egyptian has quite confused the dinosaur. The particular thought experiment done by palaeontologist dale russell did not say any "stenonychosa" especially have said "bipedal predators" like the "Troodon"!

It looks like the speculative 'dinosauroid' from Dale Russell's imagination because thats exactly what it is...

Oh but its cool to think about, and its unexplained.

it is of course cool to think about What Ifs.
But it is not unexplained. there is no explanation.
what can you explain about something that doesnt even exist???

A thought just struck me reading these posts.......lots of creationists/anti-evolutionists argue against mankind evolving from apes becuase there are still apes. The evolution theory would make sense if we were descended from reptiles.

No the apes thing is more that us and them have the same common ancestor rather than we evolved from them. like different branches of the same tree i believe.

Ok those models are actually a sort of "What if?" type thing. As in "What if the dinosaurs hadn't gone extinct, how would they evolve?" I remember reading it in some dinosaur book a few years ago that centered on that whole scenario and it had those exact models.

Huh? There are still reptiles too. I don't get your logic. We're mammals not reptiles so how would that be any more acceptable to creationists? The best evidence we have shows a branching of what would become modern reptiles from what would become proto-mammals well over 200 million years ago.

We are not 'descended from' the apes that are alive today, the apes alive today are themselves descended from early forms of primate-hominids. Man is supposedly also descended from early forms of primate-hominids, and at one point in the past both apes AND man may have had a common acncestor that had descendants braching off on two seperate paths: one path leading to Man, (including now extinct human forms like Neanderthal), and one path which leads to the family of currently-living 'apes'

Well i did say that the thought had just struck me. I literally typed it as i thought it. Good point regarding the fact that there are still reptiles.

What Canadian scientists? Sorry but I see no proof in what you are talking about. If we are reptiles we would be cold blooded and lay eggs.

I do get a tad suspicious of those types who like to lie in the sun all day....

There you are wrong!!



It was just a thought Experiment, Just speculation that if dinosaurs had not not been extinct, they could have elvolved into something humanoid!

this is one information that should be corrected within our school system
i took an anthropology class
and according to my prof. we simply DIDN'T came from monkeys
we shared the same ancestor but we aren't a monkey in anyway!!

My what an excellent source you have there. Wait whats this (Help Stargods to expand. Buy a book or DVD click here )


Rule #1 Check to see if they are trying to make money, or are able to make money.

Google "stenonychosa". It returns about 6 results, most of which from this sort of website claiming there are "canadian scientists" researching it. You take guilability to a new level.



You have a drawing!! Why didn't you say so? Well that seals it, thanks for the water-tight proof.



Right, at this point I start to lose interest. Yadda yadda David Icke blah blah. Nonsense. Absolute codswallop (what a great word), and not a shred of proof either.

interesting stuff, this would make a good sci-fi movie in my opinion. Shape shifters are djinn, they manipulate humans, and come in many forms to re-inforce false beliefs, like reptilians, ghosts, dead family members, or jus another human being. They live with in a parallel universe, but can make themselves visible to men, but they rarely affect us, unless we mess with them.

In real life, why would Troodon have evolved to become so human like in appearence? Simple, they wouldn't have. They would have evolved along the sam general lines they were going down, but with a larger skull to support a larger brain they would become more bent down, or even quadrepeds. I believe the theory of hypothetical evolution of Troodon that the canadian scientests presented is biased and should be dismissed.

Thats true, it's just a thought experiment, what could have been.

But not a very scientifically accurate one.

Oh those wacky "Canadian scientists" they'll say anything!

Thatlooks like a creatures from an old TV show called land of lost

We've definetly evolved from something. I am a proponent of the Aquatic-Ape Theory. We evolved from dolphins!

......yeah, then they would have to ignore the fact that our chromosome #2, is a fusion of 2 primate ones.
i dont think the reptile theory would really help.

I wonder how complete our fossil records are

Could there be more manlike dinoaur not yet discovered?

Folks.

It is not a Canadian 'Scientist' who came up with this theory. any crack pot can be come a scientist.
It is a Canadian palaeontologist who came up with this - paleontologist Dale Russell, curator of vertebrate fossils at the National Museum of Canada in Ottawa. and he is quite respectable in his circle.
And
He never ever said that the Dinosaurs - Troodons, to be specific ever evolved into dinosauroids.
He just created a thought experiment the essence of which was
If the Chicxulub meteorite had not exterminated the dinosaurs 65 million years ago, the dominat species of that times- the dinosaurs could have evolved into other forms and an example was of the troodon that since it was already a bipedal dinosaur, it could have evolved into a bipedal dinsosauroid.

Its just a What if or speculative stuff..nothing that ever really happened.

THANK you for clearing that up.

The R(reptilian)complex..... http://www.psycheducation.org/emotion/triune%20brain.htm

well, i do not know if anyone still pops by this subject here, i hope they do, or else i hope people have searched a lot more on this complex subject. The reason why is, that if people have searched more n the subject they would also have found the other explanations according to the old sumerian tablets. The sumerian tablets show this story about the nephilims coming down to earth, but not only that. On one of these tablets we have a picture showing something looking like a string of DNA held up by two nephilims, or as they are called in the sumerian language, the annunakis (goes to the planet x, nibiru theories). This could mayne a depiction of what happened in the human evolution that made our evolution-span much shorter than any of the other creatures here on earth, cause really, we had en evolutianary boom turning us into what we are today in a very short amount of time. On the sumerian tablets we also have a depiction of the solar system, which in it self is a really funny incident when considering the fact that they should not even know of any other planets existing, should they? and if, how?. This depiction also holds an extra planet, the planet we call planet x. And according to the beliefs around this, planet x should be the home of the annunakis (Important to remember: The nephilim are what we call the fallen angels aka. people who fell from the skies, annunaki means those who came/fell from the skies). To get back to the sumerian stonetablet depicting what COULD be a DNA-string, the annunaki are said to have created us as a lower slaverace to do their dirty work here on earth harvesting minerals for them such as gold, cupper, silver and so on and so forth because their planet did not hold those things itself. What then happened i am not capable of remembering completely, but something happened with our evolution making them send some of their people down to us to educate us around what had happened, why we were here, and some of the facts about the universe (Maybe that would be the reason they could depict our solarsystem, hmmmm?). The nephilim/annunaki did not criss-cross human/animal-species, that is icke-sh** that puts them into a bad perspictive if you ask me, but they came down to earth because they liked the human women, and that was said to have created giants (this story is getting long now). But the gene-pool of the humans got too affected with the Annunakis, and then they had to do something to clean up the mess again, that is where the stories of Noah stems from, which is, funnily enough, also a part of the Sumerian texts (google it if you have not read about this before). After having cleaned up the mess they left humankind to themselves and went back to their own planet. That probably be where the great religions had a start (when saying the great religions i mean Christianity, islam, and the jewthing, sorry, don't know how to say it in english), The start of the different religions would probably (and here i say probably, because i see that as my own theory) have roots in misinterpretations of the old annunakian texts after they left us on our own, and that would have started major conflicts in what to believe (the three religions i have mentioned says nearly the same things, except they do it according to other codes and interpretations, but when you discuss what the choran, the tora, and the bible says, you will actually for the most get to the conclusion that the fundemental stories are the same, i have friends who are both orthodox jewish, muslim and christian and have discussed it a lot with them) and the only thing that keeps the conflicts running are the different codes of living (you would be calling that the interpretations of the fundemental stories, but in the conflicts you can still draw paralels, e.x. that women are lower and diserves punishments for their sins in having denied us the rights to paradise (when taking a look at this thing with the women being impure, you can draw another paralel towards them mixing with the annunaki)). now im getting tired of writing more about this, but i just wanted to give a lead in another direction that did not stick to this "david icke-solution", cause he is really a jerk around this if you ask me. The reason that i have outled the Hinduism and buddhism is that i see at as more manmade and philosophical directions, and also, the three religions i have used have roots in the middle-east, just around the old mesophotamia where the sumerians and babylonians where to have been stiuated. If you want to find out more about the interpretation of the sumerian tablets i have read, do a google-search on planet x, that will take you to a site called x-facts about planet x, and also do a search for some parts of the sitchin-interpretation if you do not know about it, that is what i see as the most plausible explanations instead of it all being more religiously oriented with a war between god and demon, that is just too divine for me.

(i excuse for any bad grammar or language, i am a drunk dane:P)

p.s: it will also give new perspectives on the reptillian thing which this was originally about, but according to the texts i have read, the repitillians are not our creators, and we have not developed from any reptilian race

Personally I think these Canadian Scientists have to stop taking a hit from the old Zoom Tube.

the strange thing is the pic of the man and dino and the drawing of what they look like is what in the 70 or 80 a TV show called "V" was..lol.. they were came to earth wore plastic skin and took over the world. reminds me of the last eposoide of the show where the writers said it was the canadians that worked out these lizard people came from from our dino's..

From Wikipedia:

"The "Dinosauroid"

A model of the hypothetical Dinosauroid.In 1982, paleontologist Dale Russell, curator of vertebrate fossils at the National Museum of Canada in Ottawa, speculated on how evolution would have proceeded if the troodonts had survived the extincton of the dinosaurs. Russell speculated that a species like Troodon would have grown smarter and taken on a human-like appearance. Russell partnered with taxidermist and artist Ron Sequin and together they made a model of what a derived, intelligent Troodon would look like, naming their fantasy creation a "Dinosauroid" (Russell & Séguin, 1982). While a few paleontologists, such as David Norman (1985) and Cristiano dal Sasso (2004) have regarded this as a plausible line of reasoning, others, such as Gregory S. Paul (1988) and Thomas R. Holtz Jr., consider it "suspiciously human" (Paul, 1988) and argue that a large-brained, highly intelligent troodontid would retain a more standard theropod body plan. Darren Naish has suggested the ground hornbill as a better model for a hominid-mimicking terrestrial theropod."

Please don't soil the name of our good Canadian scientists.

This is why I love WraithGod !

I'd also like to add that the term "apes" is very misleading... humans ARE apes. Non-human apes should not be called just "apes". So if someone calls you an ape, say, "So?"

"Humans, or human beings, are bipedal primates belonging to the mammalian species Homo sapiens (Latin: "wise human" or "knowing human") in the family Hominidae (the great apes)."

All members of Hominidae are apes. Orangutans, gorillas, and yes, humans!

I spent three days demonstrating this to a numbskull on YouTube, so just TRY and debate me on that point, lol.

And thanks, SteveLove. ^^; Someone actually posted the Wikipedia link earlier on, but people like text handed to them on a platter (myself included, admittedly. xD).

The illustration of the reptilian man reminds me of that character played by Louis Gossett Jr in the movie Enemy Mine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Enemy_mine.jpg