Hey has anyone caught the episode where TAPS goes to check out the Sharon Tate house where the murders accoured and the Charlie Chaplin Studios? I din't get to stay long on the TAPS forum enough to ask a question,had to get back to work.But apparently there is some sort of contraversy over this espisode. Can't recall what it was,so I'll have to get back to you.I think it had to do with some footage using photos of the crime scence and the murdered victims possibly.
I don't have the Sci-Fi Channel on my basic cable,so i have my sister record it for me.

OH when was this episode aired?

Can't remember the day, but it aired in July.

I missed it but wanted to see it, They run the show's over all the time so maybe it wont take long for me to get to see it,.

I want to see it also

Definitely watch it. They captured some interesting evidence, particularly a strong EVP. The big thing, that everyone talks about, however, is Chris Flemmings appearance on the show, and his use of the K2 meter as a sort of electronic ouija board. Honnestly, I didn't know what to make of that.

I would really love to see that! Those poor people (Tate and her friends) were probably so freaked out!

Who is Chris Flemmings?

I saw that episode in Youtube like a couple of months ago. I don't know what to say about that little machine supposedly "answering" the questions. It could have been a set up.

Chris Fleming is an American psychic, he did a show called Dead Famous with Gale Porter over here in the UK - it was a really good show. They were trying to reach famous spirits, Monroe, John Wayne, John Lennon.

Back to TAPS at the Tate house, it was a really good episode, the evp's were freaky, here's the reveal from Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUviCxtUNDA...ted&search=

Reg

I saw it was so sad one evps was of a women crying it sounded like despretion in the cry.
That is one thing i dislike about TAPS is that the don't do anything to help the people who are being haunted or the ghost who are stuck there. They just pack up and leave.

If this is the episode when they ask questions the "meter" spikes, then I see it sort of hard to dispute. They ask it to spike once for no and twice for yes, and the meter next spikes any more than twice. That's food for thought. Not only that, but it always spikes after a question is asked. It'd be hard to argue against this being legit, other than saying it's set up.

They've made references to helping bring resolution a few times, and even showed one of the crew doing a blessing once. They don't generally televise it, but I think they try to help out at least some of the time if the property owners want it.

I have a couple of problems with the K-II meter scene. First is that like all the answers it supposedly gave were "Yes". At regular intervals. This makes you always wonder if the machine would have kept giving the yes signal whether a question was asked or not, or even it were known that the machine would do this and questions were asked to fit.

Second, and this is the big one, the guy held the thing the whole time. He could have easily been manipulating it. I would have felt a lot better about it if it were sitting on a table or something. They are all seasoned investigators, and would have known that this objection would be rasied. This makes me question the veracity of the sequence.

I really enjoy that show!

I never noticed that it gave a yes each time. BUT, the person holding the meter was Jason. He's the founder of taps. Though I could be wrong, I really doubt he'd tamper with "evidence".

We've had a little chat about this in the Ghosts & Hauntings section.

I honestly don't believe it to be genuine; the new house is no where near the original home in which Sharon Tate and her freinds were butchered. Also, the guy that built the house has been touting the 'haunting' around to as many people as possible, and apparently making movies to sell.

Sounds like a blatant, and very cynical way to make money

That's EXACTLY what I was saying! maybe there was a switch somewhere

Chris Fleming does not seem to be a credible guy to me. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe Fleming stated that he created the K-II Meter. Even though Jason was holding it, Fleming could have easily had some sort of device hidden in his hand which made the meter go off. Though... there was a pretty strong cold spot in front of the meter as the questions were being asked and answered. Just the presence of Fleming I think, degrades the credibility of the evidence.

In my opinion, the most remarkable evidence that TAPS has found on the show is of Ireland, particularly of the Lisheen Ruins. When they saw those little humanoid figures following the other members of the team on the thermal, it really intrigued me. I can't wait for Ghost Hunters International.

Hi Woot!

I like TAPS as they actively try to re-create any activity and try to debunk it first.
There are way too many eejits out there who think everything is paranormal, and if they can't find 'evidence' they make it up...are you listening Most Haunted?????????????

I still think the Tate haunting in this case is a pile of kak

Oh yeah, I thought that was cool. It really creeped me out. I really can't wait for GHI.

The one with the faries chasing them around, Ireland seems like the place to be if you want to see some haunts..
I want to see the Elemental of leap castle.

Even if it doesn't appear on camera they always ask the owner if they want to expell the ghost or leave it in peace.

Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I was pretty sure the other guy was holding the K-II meter. Even so, I don't care if Jesus was holding it, you don't hold something in your hand which you are claiming a spirit is communicating through. You just don't. This should be rule number one. It's so basic it's become a cliche. Whenever a ouija board is is shown in a movie, someone always says, "You're moving it!"

I reviewed the episode, and you were right, Jason holds the meter for a while before passing it to Grant. However, ther other guy, Dave Oman, I think his name was, is holding "something" in his hand the whole time. It looks like an audio recorder or maybe even a remote control of some kind. We don't know what it is.

I do notice that he has Jason and Grant hold the thing, but asks the questions himself, and again, I have to ask myself why this is.

I also notice that out of all the questions No is only returned one time. Also, and this is hard to be certain of because of editing and whatnot, but there seems to be about a six to seven second interval between each answer returned.

I don't believe Jason and Grant would knowing mislead anyone with this, but as for the other guy, I just don't know. It does seem contrived, and given the criticallt flawed methodology I don't give this evidence any weight at all.

Again, Jason and Grant should have known better.

Yeah I didn't trust that meter either. Chris could have a devise that he's activating with his toe or by anal twitching - it could easily be faked.

Hammy's right, the house isn't where the murders were - it was a fair distance away.

we own a KII meter and it does work , its almost the same as an EMF detector and I doubt they were causing it to go off , I mean they always have shows where they dont find anything , so why would they do it there ? I would say its legit . And they do offer help to people , they just dont show it on camera

I think TAPS are legit - and I do trust them, if they don't find anything they say so. It wasn't their meter though was it? it was the psychics, Chris Fleming. I'd have been happier if it was their own piece of kit that they were familiar with.

No they wouldnt tamper with evidence , plus there actually are rules you have to follow , if you dont then u could get in alot of trouble

OH ME TOO! that one was scary!

TAPS are legit. I have been on investigation with the guys from TAPS, and Chris Flemming was their also. We were all divided up into groups, and had the guys from TAPS and Chris as "guides" through the investigation. Jason, Grant, and Steve all had a couple of small personal experiences with their groups, while Chris claimed to be seeing dozens of shadow people, hearing all kinds of things, and communicating with his PK2. Of course no one in his group heard or saw any of these, much less got any EVP, pics, or video. I was in his group for a while, and everyone took turns holding the PK2 while he asked quetions. Nobody got a response out of it except him when he was holding it. It is design to not be placed on a table or anything to be left alone. You have to hold down a button on it.
He designed and built the PK2, which is supposed to me a moidfied EMF detector. He sells them for $50 a piece. He is a very nice guy, but his meter, and his methods, all are very hokey to me.

It is their job to confirm, as far as I could tell.

The people who fund them also have another group, their show is "Paranormal State"...they are the ones who assist.

The device Chris had worked when jason and Dave Tango held it,not just Chris.It was interesing that he asked the spirit,whoever it was about use of the ouija board. It is possible that Jay Sebring and Sharon Tate's spirits could have been brought into the house through the board possibly. And as Jason and Grant told the owner, there have been murders and suicides in the area. If the house is fairly close to where the original murders took place,the spirits who ever they are could have moved into the home.
The one evp that was fairly clear sounded like Take,Take take me to the light. The other was in great distress
and may have been asking the killer why did you do this. I wish they had really slowed down the speed on the second one so it might have been a little clearer if at all possible.
I know this would be very painful to the family, but it would have been interesting if they could have had Roman Polanski
Sharon Tate's husband listen to the evps. He certainly would have known Sharon's voice and would have been able to tell if it was her positively.
The other evp could have been Abigail Folger the Folger's Coffee heiress who was at the home and also murdered along with Jay,Sharon, and Abigail's boyfriend. I believe a young man was also murdered in his car in the drive way of Tate-polanski home.This may have been the spirit the owner saw pointing in the direction of the drive way.
Been years since I have read the book,Helter Skelter by Vincent Bugliosi.

I thought the EVP's were pretty good from this episode. The first one sounded to me like: I didn't want to die. It was like she was saying it in a choppy sort of manner in the beginning I---(choppy whispery DIDN'T)----WANT---TO DIEEEEEEEEEEE(the last two words were drawn out and she sounded distressed). The other EVP sounded to me like she said: Why is there so much pain?....or perhaps: Why am I in so much pain? They were definitely two of the creepiest/saddest evp's I've heard on the show. The first EVP was caught right after one of the investigators asked if she was upset about the murders.