NoahJaymes
Jan 24 2008, 09:06 PM
Smurfs could be on A&E right now and be the highest rating. The network shows reruns and new episodes of Paranormal State, what do you think will win, shows that ppl already watched, or something havent seen before. Put them on USA and they won't even come close to Monday Night Raw.
versidus
Jan 24 2008, 09:10 PM
QUOTE (__419__ @ Jan 24 2008, 09:06 PM)

Smurfs could be on A&E right now and be the highest rating. The network shows reruns and new episodes of Paranormal State, what do you think will win, shows that ppl already watched, or something havent seen before. Put them on USA and they won't even come close to Monday Night Raw.
lmfao!
JustNormal
Jan 24 2008, 10:02 PM
QUOTE (versidus @ Jan 24 2008, 09:00 PM)

justnormal i know what episode of A Haunting you are talking about i have seen it like ten time my self, and every time i see it i think to my self.there is no way that kid picked up a demon from a cemetery. just by looking at the little punk it is plain to see he has been messing with something ells and he douse not want to say what he was messing with. (satanism or witch craft)
but let my go out on a limb here maybe just maybe this kid desperately seeking his mothers attention, who happens to be a Paranormal investigator/medium, and this was the only way he could get her to stop chasing ghost's for a minuet and give him a little attention... no that would be crazy right? people don't do thing like that for attention in this world. right???? but i must say A Haunting is one of my favorite shows on TV....
Hi, Stacy is quite famous and continues to investigate and give lectures, and John Zaffis is a well know Demonologist, so due to the people involved, I dont think it was the son's fault or a teen upset. A Demonic an attach itself to anyone at any time, which it did, then in time possessed him. Neither Stacy or John, would put themselves on the line, for 15 mins of fame, they aleady have it. It happens to be a true story...I like that show too, and my favorite one is "Sallies House." JN
TheBlueDragon
Jan 24 2008, 10:06 PM
The most boring hour of my life was watching this show.
MasterPo
Jan 24 2008, 11:31 PM
QUOTE (JustNormal @ Jan 24 2008, 12:09 AM)

I read and heard they were in the same category as Ouija Boards, because of the
Ideomotor effect. But thats just my own opinion. If you ever watched A Haunting, its a story of I think her name is Stacy Jones, police officer/medium turned investigator. She had gone to a local cemetery due to reports of shadows and screams etc. She brought her son which she never did, as opposed to leaving him alone, he was 15. He used dowsing rods to mess around the cemetery, and ended up oppressed and then possessed. Actually it was John Zaffis who claimed he was and attended the Exorcism in CT..He told her that dowsing rods were used by many "witches" and others to locate Demons, and it worked. But anyway, thats my take on this lol..JN
Saw that episode. Freaky!!
MasterPo
Jan 24 2008, 11:32 PM
QUOTE (Jennie 1 @ Jan 24 2008, 03:07 AM)

Agreed.
I didn't believe in them either, until my 92 year old grandfather showed me how he could use them to find water. Amazing!
My in-laws used a professional dowser to find water on their property in upstate NY. They had to drill very deep but it was there!
MasterPo
Jan 24 2008, 11:34 PM
QUOTE (JustNormal @ Jan 24 2008, 10:21 AM)

Ryan and team are on Maury right now 10:00AM, and his show was the highest rated show on A&E, also he is on the front page of People Magazine..The owner of that bar was on too, and said he can now co-exist with the spirit..JN
I knew they'd get someone to be on that show! (it's a long story, message me if you want the details)
JustNormal
Jan 25 2008, 12:05 AM
QUOTE (MasterPo @ Jan 24 2008, 11:31 PM)

Saw that episode. Freaky!!
Yes it was freaky...John does good work..
JustNormal
Jan 25 2008, 12:09 AM
QUOTE (MasterPo @ Jan 24 2008, 11:34 PM)

I knew they'd get someone to be on that show! (it's a long story, message me if you want the details)
OK, Ryan wasnt on long and plus they had other investigators on, from "Haunting Evidence" and a few others. They had a medium on there that was amazing. They had a group stay all night and take pics, used Thermal Imaging and EVP's and they had some good EVP's..I NEVER watch Maury, he is trash tv. But I was cleaning and not even paying attention till I heard what the subject matter was, then watched it...Pretty good stuff..Its better than "You're not the father" LOL..JN
Asphodel
Jan 25 2008, 06:58 AM
I hate the show for all or most of the reasons everyone else has mentioned, but I can't stop watching it! It's like a disaster, you just can't look away. I can't anyway. The show makes me laugh, so it's amusing. I also allows me to get seriously peeved, allowing me to b*tch, rant, and relieve frustration. It's therapeutic, really, to yell at the fools. Some people yell at the TV when they're watching sports, I yell when I watch PS. I'm sure I can't be the only one.
JustNormal
Jan 25 2008, 07:05 AM
QUOTE (Asphodel @ Jan 25 2008, 06:58 AM)

I hate the show for all or most of the reasons everyone else has mentioned, but I can't stop watching it! It's like a disaster, you just can't look away. I can't anyway. The show makes me laugh, so it's amusing. I also allows me to get seriously peeved, allowing me to b*tch, rant, and relieve frustration. It's therapeutic, really, to yell at the fools. Some people yell at the TV when they're watching sports, I yell when I watch PS. I'm sure I can't be the only one.

LOL COOL But I throw things at the TV and that can be dangerous..JN
Asphodel
Jan 25 2008, 07:08 AM
QUOTE (JustNormal @ Jan 25 2008, 01:05 AM)

LOL COOL But I throw things at the TV and that can be dangerous..JN

LOL! More dangerous than the roughly 1000 candles burning at "Dead Time"?
JustNormal
Jan 25 2008, 07:13 AM
QUOTE (Asphodel @ Jan 25 2008, 07:08 AM)

LOL! More dangerous than the roughly 1000 candles burning at "Dead Time"?

LOL Are you kidding, I wait till dead time!
livewire78602
Jan 27 2008, 03:53 AM
Show has to much demon/rituals/religion etc on it. First of all to believe in Demons you must belive in God or Satan. This means you must have some strong relgious background. Just because you have a haunting doesnt mean its a Demon unless you are lead to believe this. Funny how TAPS and Paranormal State are two different shows yet looking for the same thing. And my biggest gripe of the show is where the hell did they get this "Dead Time" from?? Is this another religious thing? What a Joke. Paranormal State is a big drama show. They build up the problems then calm it towards the end with nice music and wording about whats happend now with the family. Why doesnt TAPS encounter demons? I think people who are more religious or brought up in a very strick religious family are more prone to have hauntings that make it seem like demons. This show is about one mans religion and should be kept on the religeous channels. Besides they are a bunch of college kids who think they know what they are doing like all the 1000's of ghost investigators popping up now due to TAPS program on TV. This is not a proven field etc. Its only based on experience and documentation. I think there should be a show on Paranormal investigators made up of indians from an indian tribe. Would make it different especially for the rituals of cleansing etc.
versidus
Jan 27 2008, 04:34 AM
QUOTE (livewire78602 @ Jan 27 2008, 03:53 AM)

Show has to much demon/rituals/religion etc on it. First of all to believe in Demons you must belive in God or Satan. This means you must have some strong relgious background. Just because you have a haunting doesnt mean its a Demon unless you are lead to believe this. Funny how TAPS and Paranormal State are two different shows yet looking for the same thing. And my biggest gripe of the show is where the hell did they get this "Dead Time" from?? Is this another religious thing? What a Joke. Paranormal State is a big drama show. They build up the problems then calm it towards the end with nice music and wording about whats happend now with the family. Why doesnt TAPS encounter demons? I think people who are more religious or brought up in a very strick religious family are more prone to have hauntings that make it seem like demons. This show is about one mans religion and should be kept on the religeous channels. Besides they are a bunch of college kids who think they know what they are doing like all the 1000's of ghost investigators popping up now due to TAPS program on TV. This is not a proven field etc. Its only based on experience and documentation. I think there should be a show on Paranormal investigators made up of indians from an indian tribe. Would make it different especially for the rituals of cleansing etc.
you make some good points. see I'm a religious person, BUT i believe you should check you believes at the door when preforming a scientific investigation.
NoahJaymes
Jan 27 2008, 04:37 AM
Groups are different, some use scientific methods, others use various other methods. I am sure if one is highly religious their belief structure will play a role in the investigation in some way or another. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but to each their own on an investigation.
Asphodel
Jan 27 2008, 06:22 AM
It's the religious aspect of it that bothers me so bad, especially since I am not religious. Religion gets in the way of any scientific investigation. I really have a problem with everything being called demonic. It's just ridiculous to me. These people go into an investigation and automatically claim the entity is a demon, or the demon that is "following" Ryan. Why would such an old, well known demon want to tag along and bother that guy, anyway? It's all in his head. He's a narcissist and the group members follow him as if he's a cult leader or prophet. If they're too blind to see that their leader is loony they shouldn't be investigating anything.
JackalnChainz
Jan 27 2008, 06:35 AM
QUOTE (Asphodel @ Jan 27 2008, 12:22 AM)

It's the religious aspect of it that bothers me so bad, especially since I am not religious. Religion gets in the way of any scientific investigation. I really have a problem with everything being called demonic. It's just ridiculous to me. These people go into an investigation and automatically claim the entity is a demon, or the demon that is "following" Ryan. Why would such an old, well known demon want to tag along and bother that guy, anyway? It's all in his head. He's a narcissist and the group members follow him as if he's a cult leader or prophet. If they're too blind to see that their leader is loony they shouldn't be investigating anything.
I don't think religion gets in the way. These investigations by these paranormal "experts" are seriously humorous, to anyone that has conducted a real investigation, like a detective, or a bonifide scientist. A persons religious affiliation never enters into a real investigation. All evidence is scrutinized methodically, even continuing with the process long after a reasonable explanation is found. Because just because it is reasonable, does not mean it is the correct one. Debunking is a waste of time. And most paranormal investigations are biased (in one direction or the other), and a joke.
Nightangel1282
Jan 27 2008, 06:45 AM
I can't stand PRS... too much of a Christian feel to that show. They display absolutely no evidence and the only two episodes I watched had me bored to tears.
I apologize if this next part is off topic, but I would just like to point out to whoever it was earlier that was saying something about witchcraft being involved with demons or satan... sorry, witchcraft is associated with Paganism, and Satan has absolutely no involvement in Paganism. Just to clarify. (sorry, it just bugs me when people say things like that)
Asphodel
Jan 27 2008, 06:48 AM
QUOTE (JackalnChainz @ Jan 27 2008, 12:35 AM)

And most paranormal investigations are biased (in one direction or the other), and a joke.
I agree with that entirely .
versidus
Jan 27 2008, 03:12 PM
i know there is a Christian overtone to the show but there is other religions in there to like occult/witch craft. i would think people trying to cast spells would piss people off more then some one praying to god. weird
AngelXVI
Jan 27 2008, 03:57 PM
QUOTE (versidus @ Jan 27 2008, 10:12 AM)

i know there is a Christian overtone to the show but there is other religions in there to like occult/witch craft. i would think people trying to cast spells would piss people off more then some one praying to god. weird
To me there is no difference between prayer and spells if the intent is good as they both ask God or the powers that be for help It is just another spiritual path to the divine.
versidus
Jan 27 2008, 04:42 PM
QUOTE (AngelXVI @ Jan 27 2008, 03:57 PM)

To me there is no difference between prayer and spells if the intent is good as they both ask God or the powers that be for help It is just another spiritual path to the divine.
true.
Asphodel
Jan 27 2008, 11:14 PM
QUOTE (versidus @ Jan 27 2008, 09:12 AM)

i know there is a Christian overtone to the show but there is other religions in there to like occult/witch craft. i would think people trying to cast spells would piss people off more then some one praying to god. weird
I also don't like any of that, but Christianity is their primary religion. I know one of the girls is Wiccan or something.
Miranda-Catherine
Jan 28 2008, 12:20 AM
I still like the show..it might be overdone most of the time..but even if there isnt any "paranormal activity"..Ryan still tries to help the clients in any way he possibly can..when the problem could be their mental health he finds someone who specializes in that department to help or even for marriage counselling when its needed...plus that show is probably pulling in big money..hes the one making profit off of blown out of proportion crap..doesnt hurt that hes pretty cute too
MasterPo
Jan 28 2008, 04:30 AM
QUOTE (Asphodel @ Jan 27 2008, 01:22 AM)

It's the religious aspect of it that bothers me so bad, especially since I am not religious.
It is a more unique angle. There aren't any paranormal shows now (that I'm aware of) that show investigation and analysis from the organized religous/spiritual POV.
QUOTE
Why would such an old, well known demon want to tag along and bother that guy, anyway?
Why do demons attach themselves to any one? Same reasons. Can't say if he does or doesn't have a demon following him. But you can't have a discussion of demons and demonology without also including some aspect of faith.
FWIW, the group's former advisor at Penn State is a well known and respected demonologist and clinical psychologist.
JustNormal
Jan 28 2008, 04:34 AM
QUOTE (MasterPo @ Jan 28 2008, 04:30 AM)

It is a more unique angle. There aren't any paranormal shows now (that I'm aware of) that show investigation and analysis from the organized religous/spiritual POV.
Why do demons attach themselves to any one? Same reasons. Can't say if he does or doesn't have a demon following him. But you can't have a discussion of demons and demonology without also including some aspect of faith.
FWIW, the group's former advisor at Penn State is a well known and respected demonologist and clinical psychologist.
I recently read an article that Ryan sought counsel (they didnt say who) and the Demonic that was following him or around him is now out of his life. But we do know, it can come return JN
JustNormal
Jan 28 2008, 04:37 AM
QUOTE (Miranda-Catherine @ Jan 28 2008, 12:20 AM)

I still like the show..it might be overdone most of the time..but even if there isnt any "paranormal activity"..Ryan still tries to help the clients in any way he possibly can..when the problem could be their mental health he finds someone who specializes in that department to help or even for marriage counselling when its needed...plus that show is probably pulling in big money..hes the one making profit off of blown out of proportion crap..doesnt hurt that hes pretty cute too

Thats the one aspect I do like about that show, they help people regardless of the activity, they never turn their backs and walk out leaving them to deal with any sort of problem in their home. Its sort of cutting edge, due to this is the first show of this nature, and I like that they care so much about the people, not EMF's EVP's or evidence..JN
JackalnChainz
Jan 28 2008, 05:06 AM
I have to be honest, I haven't watched this show since the second episode. The first show I was thrilled with. But the second show really was over done by the investigators AND the people living in the trailor like slobs, desperately vying for attention. I felt the demon aspect was overplayed, and the scrolling of the letters spelling the suspect name of the demon was merely meant to challenge subintellects, as it was obvious it spelled belial to anyone with a triple digit IQ. I agree at first I was happy that they seemed determined to help the afflicted. But I could not overcome the fact that the demon card was played, with very little evidence. I view this call as the most serious and dangerous of all infestations, and felt they were striving for ratings. It was just my gut feeling. I didn't feel that way with the first episode however. So I discontinued watching it. Although I would view it again, but I'm not going out of my way, or even entering the air date on my satelite controller. But, in all fairness to the rest of the reality/paranormal shows, I'm not real thrillled with them either. I thought the first episode of Monsterquest, regarding the Bigfoot in Ontario was very good. ~Jackal
Jennie 1
Jan 28 2008, 05:26 AM
QUOTE (JackalnChainz @ Jan 27 2008, 11:06 PM)

I have to be honest, I haven't watched this show since the second episode. The first show I was thrilled with. But the second show really was over done by the investigators AND the people living in the trailor like slobs, desperately vying for attention. I felt the demon aspect was overplayed, and the scrolling of the letters spelling the suspect name of the demon was merely meant to challenge subintellects, as it was obvious it spelled belial to anyone with a triple digit IQ. I agree at first I was happy that they seemed determined to help the afflicted. But I could not overcome the fact that the demon card was played, with very little evidence. I view this call as the most serious and dangerous of all infestations, and felt they were striving for ratings. It was just my gut feeling. I didn't feel that way with the first episode however. So I discontinued watching it. Although I would view it again, but I'm not going out of my way, or even entering the air date on my satelite controller. But, in all fairness to the rest of the reality/paranormal shows, I'm not real thrillled with them either. I thought the first episode of Monsterquest, regarding the Bigfoot in Ontario was very good. ~Jackal
Monsterquest was awesome!! as usual.
bustacrab
Jan 29 2008, 04:17 AM
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Dec 21 2007, 09:35 AM)

The point is they assume every situation is paranormal. The whole show appears set up. The acting is horrible. How anyone could take this show seriously is beyond me. I guarantee that they will air what is left and that will be it.
No they don't. Also, why would they investigate every single situation without some sort of screening? No one has the time to go investigate every claim there has to be some substance.
Jasak
Feb 24 2008, 07:02 AM
QUOTE (versidus @ Dec 20 2007, 04:44 AM)

Edited at the request of the OP
Here it is people -- my long rant of "Paranormal State". Oh where to start? Where to start? I know! Let's start with the leader of the group Ryan Buell. In one of the on demand specials that introduces the group members, Ryan Buell states he is a expert in the field of paranormal research. This is not true. He is no expert in the field. He's a self-proclaimed expert in the paranormal. To be an expert in a field you first need to have special skills or knowledge and authority in some particular field. You also need to uncover new innovative findings or have substantial influence on the field. This kid has not done anything new or innovative. I have read a crapload of books on the paranormal and been in quite a few paranormal research groups, as well as followed other paranormal researchers and their log journals parers etc... From that I would not call myself an "expert", but if knowledge is all you need to be an expert, well then every person on this web site or that has watched one tv show on the paranormal is an expert! I would only say that I have a good knowledge base in the paranormal.
And I'm going to now use all of my talents to rip this show a new one! Ok Ryan, stop with all the "ooooo the devil is following me" crap. I love how he never says the name, but coincidently a psychic writes it down on a piece of paper and wow... it's the same OMG! I don't think so dude. If a demon had beef with you, you wouldn't be able to get out of bed in the morning. And a demon would never, I mean NEVER, tell you his name. If you have ever done a little bit of reading you would know that if you know the demon's name, you can control the demon. Or you can get rid of him. Man, Ryan... I think you like drama more than you like sex or breathing. Also they have an occult member performing rituals in the show. WOW how unscientific is that?Magic is an unproven practice in the world of science and if you are going to be a paranormal researcher, you really need to be scientific. That is what the field is all about. The point is to validate the evidence gathered to further the legitimacy of the paranormal field. You know, out of fantasy into reality.
I must say I do like watching the show, it's just so BAD like a Troma film. It's like watching a donkey show -- it's so horrible you can't take your eyes off it (I would like to thank Kevin Smith for that analogue!) The only show it's really competing with is Most Haunted for the most fictional reality-based paranormal research show. There is no debunking in the show. They don't even try to debunk anything! Oh I love their equipment "oooo fancy stuff". I really like the Walmart special motion detectors and how Ryan says "we calibrated them". LOL. You can't calibrate them, lol. By "calibrated" he means positioning them. Give me a break. I don't think this show is going to last too long at all. It's a slap in the face to real paranormal researchers. If any of you are really interested in a good paranormal researchers show, Ghost Hunters on Scifi is a much better show. I must say I did like the first episode of Paranormal State. It led me to believe the show was going to be good. They did good research in proving the little kid was seeing dead people. Sad to say, that was all the good research they have done so far.
And what is with the Director's log? MORE DRAMA!!!! I think the14u2cee said it best: "Director's log, date unknown: The Demon is again following me. Today we have George Bush and Osama bin Laden looking for EVPs at the White House, with special guests Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton investigating the white man....". It's like a bad Star Trek ripoff. And what is with Kelly dating Dillon Ops? Sorry, wrong show. With all the drama I get them a little mixed up. If I had more time I would love to stay up and rail on the show longer, but it is late now. So my final thought is with shows like Paranormal State on the air, it only hurts the validity of the paranormal research field. If people just go around believing any old thing the field will always have shadows of doubt on it, and will never be taken serious.
I'm The Spectacular Fred man, and that is my opinion.
Man, you completely hit that nail on its head! Spot on! Not only was your read enteratining, but I completely agree with you! And you gotta love their "fancy equipment" LOL
versidus
Feb 25 2008, 07:30 PM
QUOTE (mikmorley @ Feb 24 2008, 08:02 AM)

Man, you completely hit that nail on its head! Spot on! Not only was your read enteratining, but I completely agree with you! And you gotta love their "fancy equipment" LOL
yeah, the show is crap, i have stopped watching it all together. hopefully it will be off the air soon!
LIGhostChick
Mar 4 2008, 04:55 PM
PRS is NOT a scientific group, they never claimed to be. They're focus is more on helping the client understand/cope with what's going on. They dont post or discuss their evidence because that's not the main focus of the show. Besides, why would you want a carbon copy of Ghost Hunters? That doesnt make sense. Just because they're approach is more of a spiritual/religious one doesnt mean its wrong, its just different. Its not right that people are ripping them apart for having a different method of doing things. That's the great thing about this field, the different ways of investigating. You dont need to agree with them at all. Production also makes them look different than they really are. How much can you really learn in 22 minutes of the show. I've met them & spoken to several of them & they really do devote alot of hours to each case. They care alot about their clients & genuinely want to help them. People dont see what goes on behind the scenes. Peole should really just back off of the, they're not doing anything wrong. They just have their way of doing things. If people dont like the show... DONT WATCH IT!
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Mar 4 2008, 05:28 PM
QUOTE (LIGhostChick @ Mar 4 2008, 10:55 AM)

PRS is NOT a scientific group, they never claimed to be. They're focus is more on helping the client understand/cope with what's going on. They dont post or discuss their evidence because that's not the main focus of the show. Besides, why would you want a carbon copy of Ghost Hunters? That doesnt make sense. Just because they're approach is more of a spiritual/religious one doesnt mean its wrong, its just different. Its not right that people are ripping them apart for having a different method of doing things. That's the great thing about this field, the different ways of investigating. You dont need to agree with them at all. Production also makes them look different than they really are. How much can you really learn in 22 minutes of the show. I've met them & spoken to several of them & they really do devote alot of hours to each case. They care alot about their clients & genuinely want to help them. People dont see what goes on behind the scenes. Peole should really just back off of the, they're not doing anything wrong. They just have their way of doing things. If people dont like the show... DONT WATCH IT!
I don't and from the ratings not many people will for much longer.
NoahJaymes
Mar 4 2008, 06:19 PM
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Mar 4 2008, 12:28 PM)

I don't and from the ratings not many people will for much longer.
Exactly! They are bombing big time. With each show the ratings drop more and more. I think everyone came on and got LIGhostChicks advice. DONT WATCH IT!
YwouldU
Mar 4 2008, 06:36 PM
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Mar 4 2008, 10:28 AM)

I don't and from the ratings not many people will for much longer.
I enjoy watching it, they are helping people who are having problems and nothing is wrong with that. They spent on average 3 days at each place and we only get to see a measly 25minutes of there time.
Personally i dont think anyone on these forums could make a better show, its so easy to criticize but i find it hilarious that none of you are taking the intiative to make a better and more scientific show.
So have fun behind your keyboard criticizing the people who are genuinly helping other people with paranormal problems, but at least they are doing something you
*snip*.
Also to all the people who say its just a big drama, well wtf do you expect when you enter into relationships with people. Emotions run high when you are changing a life.
So to whoever pony's up and makes a better show, i am looking forward to watching it but to the rest of you who care to just sit back and criticize well i hope your negitiveness serves you well.
NoahJaymes
Mar 4 2008, 06:52 PM
QUOTE (YwouldU @ Mar 4 2008, 01:36 PM)

I enjoy watching it, they are helping people who are having problems and nothing is wrong with that. They spent on average 3 days at each place and we only get to see a measly 25minutes of there time.
Personally i dont think anyone on these forums could make a better show, its so easy to criticize but i find it hilarious that none of you are taking the intiative to make a better and more scientific show.
Most of you are a bunch of hacks who couldnt put a lego house together, never mind a show that a network would pick up.
So have fun behind your keyboard criticizing the people who are genuinly helping other people with paranormal problems, but atleast they are doing something you -
Also to all the people who say its just a big drama, well wtf do you expect when you enter into relationships with people. Emotions run high when you are changing a life.
So to whoever pony's up and makes a better show, i am looking forward to watching it but to the rest of you who care to just sit back and criticize well i hope your negitiveness serves you well.
Since when do you need a show to help people? LMFAO.....There are a lot of people on this site who have groups not only for ghost hunting, but support groups for mental disorders etc. None of us need a show to profit off of what we do. What we do in our own ways help the individuals in one way or another. Sorry we don't have a show that is having a ratings war with reruns of Family Guy. I don't see you lasting that long on here due to your lack of respect for fellow posters.
BTW, those who do investigate the claims of paranormal activity has every right to criticize another group who does the same thing. Infact anyone ON THESE BOARDS has every right to criticize any show for its public domain.
Lilly
Mar 4 2008, 07:06 PM
Dare I say this...Television shows are for entertainment. It's the public that will ultimately decide if any show is a success or failure. If folks here (on a discussion board) aren't entertained (for whatever reason) it's quite acceptable to voice such an opinion. Let's please be tolerant of the opinions of others...thanks.
LIGhostChick
Mar 4 2008, 07:45 PM
Is it really that big of an issue that people who dislike the show & everything that PRS stands for have to go out of their ways to shred the show. It's like the people that complain about too much sex or violence on tv which has a very easy solution... TURN IT OFF! It's that easy. Not everyone is going to like or agree with the show but it's rude to rip it apart. Some people feel so strongly about it just change the channel, it's really easy. I dont personally like their methods & the editing makes them look really crappy but I like them as individuals. They're just doing what they think is right nothing more.
NoahJaymes
Mar 4 2008, 07:48 PM
Nah. Im pretty sure I will continue ti rip them apart even if I don't watch the show. I watched one episode and haven't watched it since. That is the great thing about tv shows, everyone can be a critic
LIGhostChick
Mar 4 2008, 08:11 PM
QUOTE (__419__ @ Mar 4 2008, 07:48 PM)

Nah. Im pretty sure I will continue ti rip them apart even if I don't watch the show. I watched one episode and haven't watched it since. That is the great thing about tv shows, everyone can be a critic

LOL you're right... I only watch the show cause I think Ryan is a cutie & Katrina is a real sweetheart. Im not a big fan of the show.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Mar 4 2008, 09:18 PM
QUOTE (YwouldU @ Mar 4 2008, 12:36 PM)

I enjoy watching it, they are helping people who are having problems and nothing is wrong with that. They spent on average 3 days at each place and we only get to see a measly 25minutes of there time.
Personally i dont think anyone on these forums could make a better show, its so easy to criticize but i find it hilarious that none of you are taking the intiative to make a better and more scientific show.
Most of you are a bunch of hacks who couldnt put a lego house together, never mind a show that a network would pick up.
So have fun behind your keyboard criticizing the people who are genuinly helping other people with paranormal problems, but atleast they are doing something you fkin hack.
Also to all the people who say its just a big drama, well wtf do you expect when you enter into relationships with people. Emotions run high when you are changing a life.
So to whoever pony's up and makes a better show, i am looking forward to watching it but to the rest of you who care to just sit back and criticize well i hope your negitiveness serves you well.
Hmmm. First post. A rant for the show. Hmmm. Maybe you are involved with this crappy ficitonal show. Makes sense. Ghost Hunters, as goofy as it is, makes this show look like an elementry school play. Boo ya.
YwouldU
Mar 4 2008, 09:46 PM
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Mar 4 2008, 02:18 PM)

Hmmm. First post. A rant for the show. Hmmm. Maybe you are involved with this crappy ficitonal show. Makes sense. Ghost Hunters, as goofy as it is, makes this show look like an elementry school play. Boo ya.
Yea i am their canadian connection lol we doing a show on some canadian hauntings next

Ghost hunters? dear God are you 10yr or what. That show is horrible and obviously your taste in shows is.
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The Skeptic Eric Raven
Mar 4 2008, 09:53 PM
QUOTE (YwouldU @ Mar 4 2008, 03:46 PM)

Yea i am their canadian connection lol we doing a show on some canadian hauntings next

Ghost hunters? dear God are you 10yr or what. That show is horrible and obviously your taste in shows is.
At least ghost hunter looks for some type of explanation. All PS does is scream demons all the time, then they bring in one of the biggest fakes. A Warren.
I am waiting for them to add in special effects. I would distance yourself from the show, because it will kill any credibility you might have, if you have any to start with. By the way, welcome to the forum. Do you want to make a bet on how much longer the show will be on?? Hmm.
YwouldU
Mar 4 2008, 09:56 PM
QUOTE (__419__ @ Mar 4 2008, 11:52 AM)

Since when do you need a show to help people? LMFAO.....There are a lot of people on this site who have groups not only for ghost hunting, but support groups for mental disorders etc. None of us need a show to profit off of what we do. What we do in our own ways help the individuals in one way or another. Sorry we don't have a show that is having a ratings war with reruns of Family Guy. I don't see you lasting that long on here due to your lack of respect for fellow posters.
BTW, those who do investigate the claims of paranormal activity has every right to criticize another group who does the same thing. Infact anyone ON THESE BOARDS has every right to criticize any show for its public domain.
Do you investigate paranormal activity? and i mean besides going to your friends house and trying to find the ghost in his place because if thats the case well then im a paranormal investigator.
Do you have a website or documentation or cases?
I am willing to bet 99% of people on this site (self included) enjoy reading about the paranormal and watching shows on it. Allot of it is for entertainment and understanding.
Your right we all have the God given right to criticize, but your opinion has about as much weight as a feather.
More or less i think you suffer from little green monster syndrome.
If its such a horrible show, feel free to do a better job and prove to everyone you know what your talking about.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Mar 4 2008, 10:00 PM
QUOTE (YwouldU @ Mar 4 2008, 03:56 PM)

Do you investigate paranormal activity? and i mean besides going to your friends house and trying to find the ghost in his place because if thats the case well then im a paranormal investigator.
Do you have a website or documentation or cases?
I am willing to bet 99% of people on this site (self included) enjoy reading about the paranormal and watching shows on it. Allot of it is for entertainment and understanding.
Your right we all have the God given right to criticize, but your opinion has about as much weight as a feather.
More or less i think you suffer from little green monster syndrome.
If its such a horrible show, feel free to do a better job and prove to everyone you know what your talking about.
Since you want to be involved with the show, you can't see the truth. The majority of people hate this show. It sounds totally scripted.
Jealousy. Don't think so. I have been on TV several times for commercials and my wife does work in the business. I think it sucks.
Actually, my wife and I will be making a documentry at the end of the year about ghosts. We will try to be realistic not goofy and dramatic. Kisses.lol
YwouldU
Mar 4 2008, 10:02 PM
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Mar 4 2008, 02:53 PM)

At least ghost hunter looks for some type of explanation. All PS does is scream demons all the time, then they bring in one of the biggest fakes. A Warren.
I am waiting for them to add in special effects. I would distance yourself from the show, because it will kill any credibility you might have, if you have any to start with. By the way, welcome to the forum. Do you want to make a bet on how much longer the show will be on?? Hmm.
I dont have any credibility, i know practically nothing about the paranormal. Sure i have played some ouji and read some websites and books on spirits and demons but what i really enjoy about the show is seeing them help people understand whats causing their suffering.
In the first episode it made me happy that the little boy wasnt being harassed anymore and could finally sleep in his own bed without being tormented.
Ghost hunters they dont help anyone, they search for evidence.
Hell even if theirs not ghosts in some cases on PS, sometimes the power of just believing that somethings been done is enough to make people feel better.
Mind over matter
NoahJaymes
Mar 4 2008, 10:05 PM
Actually yes I have my own group, with my own website am in various books, writing my own book, working with a publisher, working with another author who is well known in the south. I was actually asked to do a documentry on Waverly Hills back in 2006 by a film maker in LA. If you want the name pm me and I will give you his name. I have been on over 125 investigations ranging from the most historic hotels in the United States, to various TB hospitals, abandoned hospitals with paranormal claims, various businesses, and countless residences. The mayor of a town in Ohio recently contacted my group to do 3 investigations, one of which will be on the local news station March 21st.
Everyone on this site knows about me, no need to reinform those who matter.
My opinion has as much weight as a feather? I never said my opinion mattered. However like anyone on this site I have the right to give my opinion when the hell I want.
YwouldU
Mar 4 2008, 10:05 PM
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Mar 4 2008, 03:00 PM)

Since you want to be involved with the show, you can't see the truth. The majority of people hate this show. It sounds totally scripted.
Jealousy. Don't think so. I have been on TV several times for commercials and my wife does work in the business. I think it sucks.
Actually, my wife and I will be making a documentry at the end of the year about ghosts. We will try to be realistic not goof and dramatic. Kisses.lol
Haha ill be watching for it, maybe you can catch my documentry on bigfoot.
Its mostly going to be my friend running around in a suit drunk, but we are going to keep it scientific.
I dont believe any posts i read on the internet, lol i see to many people claiming to be this or that with no evidence. Hell i can say i am a warren buffets secret son but it doesnt make it truth.
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