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Matt121
it's pretty freaky stuff especially that story where she says her cousin was swallowed by one. Whether or not it really happened it makes me want to stay out of rivers and lakes from now on.
Juan2k7nyc
i believe that with proper nutrition and no human interaction some fish might become giants........
kenshinx
tell me more .. i dont wacth monster quest sad.gif
Orcseeker
Giant fish can thrive easily in bountiful waters. There are also some huge ones in the Nile, Egypt.
The___Piper
I thought that was a cool episode,That's bcause I love fishing I guess. I totally believe most of that whole episode,but I'm not sure about that trout that was supposed to be about 14 feet long..
Yankneck
QUOTE (The___Piper @ Dec 22 2007, 12:44 AM) *
I thought that was a cool episode,That's bcause I love fishing I guess. I totally believe most of that whole episode,but I'm not sure about that trout that was supposed to be about 14 feet long..

Im a hardcore fisherman myself and I think that dudes story of a 14ft lake trout is total BS!! sturgeon maybe but not that far north. I think that guy was hitting the canadian whiskey a little to hard. And another part that angered me is the jaw they found the dang narator kept calling it a pike Jaw but it is a muskie jaw and they even made a fiberglass repro of a muskie LOL
~ MacDDT ~
QUOTE (The___Piper @ Dec 22 2007, 05:44 AM) *
I thought that was a cool episode,That's bcause I love fishing I guess. I totally believe most of that whole episode,but I'm not sure about that trout that was supposed to be about 14 feet long..


I think the guys getting Inches ( " ) and feet ( ' ) mixed up
Porthos1
I didn't see this one yet but some fish are knownto grow to the size of their environment, (within limits), maybe it could be an ordinary species that just survived a long time.
Undeadskeptic
What is Monster Quest?
capoeiranger
Man, not everybody in this forum lives in the US and A or watching the same channel. Tell us more about the story. original.gif
Matt121
There were several people interviewed. This lady that lives along the amazon said that one day her and some family members went fishing and something knocked into the boat and the boy fell into the water and he dissapeared. She says that a few days later a big fish washed up on shore with the kids feet sticking out of the mouth of the fish. They said the fish choked to death trying to swallow the small boy. Another teen in the US I forgot where he was bit by a Gar I think. Then this fisherman claims he saw a 14 foot fish. It was a pretty crazy episode pretty intresting to. I love this show
capoeiranger
Big fishes on rivers worldwide are not impossible. The Amazon has the Araipama Gigas, which I've seen one myself reached up to at least 3m long. The Thailand and Vietnam river system has the Mekong Catfish, which is a big fishing game favorite. And the rivers in Borneo is not only inhabited by crocodiles, but also freshwater sharks and sometimes...the bull sharks...
~Cheese~
QUOTE (Undeadskeptic @ Dec 22 2007, 04:21 AM) *
What is Monster Quest?


A show on The History channel that goes and search for unknown monsters such as bigfoot and other crypts..
KingTomis
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8404622/

I know they grow that big in the amazon too.

I can imagine a fish that sized or even possibly bigger eating a small child.
Smokin-Thunder
QUOTE (KingTomis @ Dec 23 2007, 01:27 PM) *
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8404622/

I know they grow that big in the amazon too.

I can imagine a fish that sized or even possibly bigger eating a small child.


Woah, that's a big fish.
Does anybody have a link to the whole episode, or just clips from it?
=D
~Cheese~
HUGE!
Undeadskeptic
Oh right, thanks Cheese.

Yeah dude, fish can grow fricking massive! My cousins live by a big lagoon and they swear to god they've seen collosal fish in there. But I doubt any of those would eat people, because people swim in there all the time.
Myles
The Alligator gar was the most impressive to me. What a scary fish.
courage_now
aligator gar fish .. interesting.


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Undeadskeptic
Holy freaking mother of!!! Thats one incredible fish! My first thought was fake, but I have heard of these fish before, marvels of evolution!

Where did you find the pic Courage_Now?

courage_now
Goggle image search mate
Undeadskeptic
Oh, right. *Smacks head on keyboard*

Actually the whole giant fish thing really intrests me, heres some interesting stories of the net.

From a fishing blog:
For years a story was told around the Lake Washington area about a duck eating monster. On November 5, 1987 it was discovered. It was a dead fish that had washed ashore. The fish was a sturgeon that weighed 900 pounds and was 11 feet long (imagine fishing for that!). Washington State fisheries official Tony Floor estimated that it was 80 years of age. Although they don't usually eat ducks, sturgeons can live up to 100 years and can grow 20 feet long!

From http://www.europacz.com/EnSerbMonFish.htm (Visit the site, very intriguing.)
The final contribution to the giant catfish stories, may or may not actually involve catfish and is more of derived from mostly urban legends than properly documented sightings. The setting of this piece takes place in the dangerous waters of the “haunted lake.” Sumarica's Lake is a man-made lake located in Sumarice near the town of Kragujevac in central Serbia and locals have long suspected that there's something not quite quite right with it. Some would even say it may be cursed
Of all the spooky stories associated with this lake, my personal favorite is, naturally, the ones that speak of the existence of some kind of giant fish. Local fishermen claim that they have at times seen an enormous fish swimming along the surface as it leaves a huge wake behind it. Adding to the local legend is the grim case of a student who drowned in the lake back in 1997. When his body was recovered it there was reportedly large bite marks on his left leg. The bites were associated with some kind of carnivorous fish. [Sources?]5

It can be speculated that back in 1965 a catfish entered the lake and has since grown to mammoth dimensions given that the lake is bountiful in all sorts of fish to feed upon. Officially, there are no catfish in the lake, so if one has managed to enter it’s waters, than it wouldn't have had any competition for food and theoretically could have achieved great dimensions given that they can live for over 100 years and continue to grow. Even though I am certainly interested in finding out the truth behind the myths, I definitely do not plan to go swimming in the lake any time soon.

Mammoth Catfish

When discussing the existence of "lake monsters" there is one aquatic beast whose perhaps most famous throughout the world for inspiring fear and awe with its ability to obtain massive size. Until the described swimming dragons are finally surrendered in true form to science, it is those whiskered Pisces, the catfish, which maintain the title as Leviathans of freshwater. One specimen of Silurus glanis, the European Catfish, captured in Russia weighed as much as 674 lbs. Even so, they needn't be monstrous in size to be intimidating.

Serbia-Montenegro carries a number of accounts giant catfish reaching extraordinary sizes. One example would be the reservoir Vracevgajsko Lake, situated at the town of Bela Crkva, which is reputed to be the home one 400 kilogram monster catfish. The brute has been accused of consuming numerous ducks, rats and even one unfortunate cat who fell into the lake. which has even been blamed for eating ducks, rats and even a cat which has fallen into the lake. One anonymous local fisherman claimed to have hooked the monster fish as it was so powerful that it pulled him right out of the boat and into the water. [Sources?]1

P.S to all who care, Im staying at my cousins house tommorow and we are going fishing for some of those monster Eels said to haunt the lagoon, apparentally growing to 5 metres long and catching people who fall overboard. I doubt it, but I'll tell you if anything happens!


Jack_of_Blades
I recall them saying that the monster trout was 6ft not 14ft...
any way new episode of Monster Quest on tonight at 10pm est time.
The gar was interesting makes we wish it would get warmer around here
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Undeadskeptic
You WANT to meet that thing? Yikes! I'd be staying the hell away from it or grabbing a gun!
TheNomad
QUOTE (jerseyredeye @ Dec 22 2007, 07:04 AM) *
And another part that angered me is the jaw they found the dang narator kept calling it a pike Jaw but it is a muskie jaw and they even made a fiberglass repro of a muskie LOL


You do realise that the Muskellunge (Esox masquinongy) or "Muskie" is a SMALLER close relative of Esox lucius aka the Pike?
Incorrigible1
QUOTE (TheNomad @ Dec 26 2007, 10:02 PM) *
You do realise that the Muskellunge (Esox masquinongy) or "Muskie" is a SMALLER close relative of Esox lucius aka the Pike?

You may wish to double-check that statement. The muskie is the largest species of the pike family.
bball
This episode was interesting from the standpoint that I find fish interesting. But for a "Monster Quest" episode it was pretty dissappointing. I mean, big fish are interesting, but I wouldn't consider any of them cryptids. Yes, some fish can get big. Mekong giants, freshwater stingrays, sturgeon, alligator gar and wels catfish to name a few. But the thing is that fish never stop growing. Obviously the rate slows tremendously. I mean, who hasn't told a classic 'fish story'. Anyone that talks to fishermen knows that fish stories are part of the fun and excitement. The show was good, but not a good topic for a cryptid-style show.
Chrisy
holy cow! What next a rat big as a cat.
Undeadskeptic
Well,

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~Cheese~
That alliagator gar is wow but iwouldn't want to eat that fish..
Incorrigible1
QUOTE (~Cheese~ @ Dec 27 2007, 08:10 AM) *
That alliagator gar is wow but iwouldn't want to eat that fish..

It may well decide to eat you.
Undeadskeptic
Are people a MAJOR part of its diet?
capoeiranger
^No, their side-dish, actually grin2.gif !

Anyway, please click here for more giant freshwater fishes.

ravergirl
thats disgusting.imagine a big slimy boat rubbing up on you while you are swimming. blech.
Fluffybunny
I was going along with most of the show until the guy from Canada started to talk about a 14 foot(yes foot) long lake trout that was hooked onto and fought for several hours on a fishing trip, only to be ultimately lost. Talk about the ultimate fishermans story of the one that got away!

I could be mistaken, but didnt he say that he never got the fish up close to the boat? How did he come up with that size? The story didnt seems to make any sense to me as to how he came up with the huge calculations of the fish...

When I was a kid in southern california I used to go surfing. I had a lot of things bump up against my legs as they were dangling into the water from the board. It either happens so fast, or the water is so murky that you couldnt see anything if you did happen to be looking at the right place at the right time so I have no idea what those things were that bounced off my legs...

Anymore I just swim in nice chlorinated swimming pools...I will leave the oceans to those braver than I am...
ravergirl
have you seen that picture of the dude surfing and there is a giant shark right behind him in the wave...i dunno where i saw it.
Incorrigible1
QUOTE (Fluffybunny @ Dec 27 2007, 11:37 AM) *
Anymore I just swim in nice chlorinated swimming pools...I will leave the oceans to those braver than I am...

Quoted for truth. I don't even trust local rivers, because I'm fully positive some shark out there is lusting to take a big old bite out of this corn-fed boy's hide, and would swim the couple thousand miles just to eat a bite of me. (OK, I'm kidding on that part!)
Yankneck
QUOTE (Incorrigible1 @ Dec 26 2007, 11:55 PM) *
You may wish to double-check that statement. The muskie is the largest species of the pike family.

Thank you for clearing that up for him I like the capitol SMALLER part of his statement as well. Im an avid pike and muskie fisherman and it bothers me to be corrected like that LOL
OptimisticSkeptic
This alligator gar was taken from Sam Rayburn Lake, Texas, in 2005. That's not too far from where I live.

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OptimisticSkeptic
QUOTE (ravergirl @ Dec 27 2007, 11:45 AM) *
have you seen that picture of the dude surfing and there is a giant shark right behind him in the wave...i dunno where i saw it.


This may be what you remember, ravergirl. According to Snopes.com, it's really a dolphin in the wave.
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This one also from Snopes.com is supposed to be real, though.
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Undeadskeptic
The bottom one looks fake.
Yankneck
well here is the video of two sharks making an attempt at a surfer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw9qMZSuE9k
Undeadskeptic
Sweeeet!
allie_shy
I thought this was pretty awesome and could get my entire family to watch it, my dad liked it because he's a fisherman, and my mother enjoyed it because it was pretty much all based on fact and had tons of proof backing it all up.
She was in awe over it all as was I, I always feared the ocean and stuck to the lakes but now its a little different.
I thought it was interesting when they gave the info about the Jaws film, I'm from Jersey and have been by that river many times and it's just crazy that happened there but it's not hard to believe because we have dolphins, whales, and seals making their way up the Delaware river all the time.

I'm actually going to look into that guy or see if there are any other tour guides like him that take people gar fishing i think it would be amazing to catch one, i don't know how well it would work seeing as i am 4'11 ha ha but it'd be interesting.

I like when they have shows like this that are more based on fact and have a lot of proof to show that it is true.

I had a hard time trusting the old man, and also the woman about the cousin getting eaten, yes it's highly possible but i think a lot of it goes back to folklore and the stories they tell to keep small children from wondering along the river side but who knows it's possible.

This may sound silly but does anyone know if there are giant coy fish?


....If these fish have the ability to grow so large in these rivers because conditions are just right and hardly touched by humans, just imagine the size of the fish at the deepest depths of the oceans because of the vast space they have to grow into , a lot of time fish and reptiles will keep growing as long as they have room to grow so in the deepest of the oceans i'm sure that there are much larger species out there.
Undeadskeptic
Coy? I don't know, but I guess a quick Google search could show us the answer.

Wait, you mentioned reptiles growing huge, like Snakes or Lizards? Where?
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