one - God doesn't subscribe to any religion or belief.

oh I don't doubt God at all. I don't believe in your opinion of God. you make God small and petty. confine God to human limitations and emotions. Your idea of Gods love has strings attached. Something God if perfect would have no need for. why would God for example need to feel jealous or angry ? those are human shortcomings.

you can't scare me with brimestone or fire because there isn't any.

I can accept God for what God is. God is simple. God accepts all no matter what , no matter what 'sin' , no matter religious belief or none at all. That's how big and loving and perfect God is. Why can't you Accept God for what God is ? Why do you limit God ? small and petty , rules of how to reach God . that isn't the faith of a child it's the faith of those wanting to play king of the mountain. it's the faith of those who aren't quite sure so make up rules.

you love God out of fear of hell (which you yourself create) not for love itself. what is so hard believing that God loves hitler and has hitler in heaven just as he has mother teresa ? muslim side by side with jews and christians and buddhists and hindu's and the extreamists of them all. what happens here we don't take with us. only the experience.
humanly it may be hard to understand but I'm not God . God has a purpose for everything.


you believe in the bible - well it states God created all - the light and the dark - good and evil. all for Gods purpose.

if it be for Gods purpose it isn't a sin. and since no one knows Gods purpose none can say otherwise.

we are spiritual beings ( that which is God in us ) having a human experience. get over it. your beliefs are not better in Gods eyes than anyone elses.

ps - and the thing is , unless your extreamly in denial and like a small God , you know I'm right. God doesn't need to forgive anyone because all goes according to Gods plan. it's why some heal and some don't. why bad things happen and why good. it is all. and it's all for the experience.

don't know about others but too many other things happened to me for me to chalk up to mere chance...i believe God had a hand in my healing, no other way it could have been...

randomhit10

My mom says that she used to have really bad allergies, got prayed for, and was completely healed of them.

God's power is absolute .Literally. Just absolute .

one - God doesn't subscribe to any religion or belief.

oh I don't doubt God at all. I don't believe in your opinion of God. you make God small and petty. confine God to human limitations and emotions. Your idea of Gods love has strings attached. Something God if perfect would have no need for. why would God for example need to feel jealous or angry ? those are human shortcomings.

you can't scare me with brimestone or fire because there isn't any.

I can accept God for what God is. God is simple. God accepts all no matter what , no matter what 'sin' , no matter religious belief or none at all. That's how big and loving and perfect God is. Why can't you Accept God for what God is ? Why do you limit God ? small and petty , rules of how to reach God . that isn't the faith of a child it's the faith of those wanting to play king of the mountain. it's the faith of those who aren't quite sure so make up rules.

you love God out of fear of hell (which you yourself create) not for love itself. what is so hard believing that God loves hitler and has hitler in heaven just as he has mother teresa ? muslim side by side with jews and christians and buddhists and hindu's and the extreamists of them all. what happens here we don't take with us. only the experience.
humanly it may be hard to understand but I'm not God . God has a purpose for everything.


you believe in the bible - well it states God created all - the light and the dark - good and evil. all for Gods purpose.

if it be for Gods purpose it isn't a sin. and since no one knows Gods purpose none can say otherwise.

we are spiritual beings ( that which is God in us ) having a human experience. get over it. your beliefs are not better in Gods eyes than anyone elses.

ps - and the thing is , unless your extreamly in denial and like a small God , you know I'm right. God doesn't need to forgive anyone because all goes according to Gods plan. it's why some heal and some don't. why bad things happen and why good. it is all. and it's all for the experience.

Are you a former amputee ?

" Everyone has the ability to heal, some have more talent than others."

Yes Darkwind .

i would add , that everyone can also heal himself , through the power of God . All healing comes from Him.

Since you seem to KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW , Then why is it that you don't KNOW you need some SERIOUS COUNSILING!

Like I said, Post hoc fallacy:

"Since that event followed this one, that event must have been caused by this one."

MLOR has a great point though. Funny how God only saves people when it's well within the limits of the body's own capability.

Why? Because she disagrees with what you believe god is?
Just as you "know" your god is a force in YOUR life, she "knows" that it isn't in hers.

And, for the record your comments about "bashing" your faith is unwarranted. Calm down, take a deep breath and re-read the post without the emotional overtones.

Christians seem to think they have a monopoly on healing. Why is that ?

It's simply not true.

I do believe some people can heal themselves, but they cannot regenerate their legs nor regenerate damaged brain cells.

I have never seen mentally handicapped (with deficits) children healed to become genius not alone aquire full mental capacities either.

Is there a cure for delusion ?

well then dlv, you must be very special to your god.

What wonderful things are you doing with the life god gave back to you?
Oh, and "spreading his word" doesn't count- I figure he has enough power and angels to spread his own word

You know me better than that JMPD I would hope maybe you didnt find what was said offensive because it was to me. I am very angry that my words were turned around to make me look like some selfish littleperson who is making up God and going by my own perception of God I'LL dare she/he. I have never been so disrespeted and humuilated, I will not calm down and I deeply resent the fact that she/he can say the things she did and no one here will stand up for me and say hey thats not right, I am deeply hurt and angry. I would NEVER EVER BASH someone or someones beliefs that way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So I tell you what I am done discussing itI will not let her/him upset me anymore than has already. I would never let someone say such things that I knew were wrong about some one I knew! I AM NOT SPEAKING OF HIS OPINION I AM SPEAKING OF THE REMARKS THAT WERE MADE ABOUT ME THAT WERE FALSE!! tHANKS ALOT!

THIS IS KEVIN SPEAKING, NOT MY MOM SANDEE, I don't know what happened here but my mom is so upset she can not stop crying and will not tell me what happened. She is a very sweet person and I am mad that someone has upsset her, She tells me about you guys all the time and considers you freinds so WHY would you hurt her like that? She is very tender hearted and thinks alot of her reputation here and everywhere. Whoever hurt my mom, She is such a special person who cares about everyone and everything, It doesnt take much to hurrt her She is a very special person and you should trat her that way
FROM KEVIN

And what of those who don't pray for healing, or are not "prayed over" who are healed? God had nothing better to do and just decided to help?


I'll tell y'all a story. Its true.

My wife's sister-in-law gave birth to her second child. The child was born with multiple life threatening ailments: a hole in the heart, neurological damage, blind. The doctors couldn't explain what happened, but they all agreed that the child would soon expire.
The child's mother and both grandmothers prayed for the three days that the child lived.
They buried the boy five days after his birth.

All three women were devout, thoroughly beleived in the carpenters son, and never left the little guys side.
But I guess that god had his reasons to deny the healing in that case, huh?

comes to mind at this moment.

Now why is that ?

I 'm feeling generous. Here I'll hand some out




Merry Christmas...HO HO HO

MLOR, that last comment was uncalled for. Rather beneath you, no?

Thanks alot for your support there you -- I wanted you to know my son is 19 and you my graceless lady can say good bye !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TO ALL THAT WAS SO NICE TO ME I WILL MISS YOU, AND BY THE WAY MLOR , MY SON WANTED TO TELL YOU HE WROTE THE POST AND THAT YOU NEED TO GET SOME CLASS

If I am viewed as the terrible version in lt ripleys post, Then I have REALLY done a terrible job representing myself here at UM and That upsets me a GREAT deal because I am an honest person who always sees myself as a kind warmhearted person that would never be like that!!!!!

I don't need any proof, I know without a doubt that God exsist and if there was some kind of proof out there I still would not seek it. Why, Because I have faith and that is just as strong as any proof anyone could show me. It is really great to have that kind of belief in anything no matter whether its religion or something else. I know God will show you and many others that he does exsist and I pray that when he ask you why you continued to doubt him, You have a really good answer. I do not mean any offense by that at all, Nor am I trying to scare you with brimestone and fire., I am simply saying, Why don't you or why can't you accept God for what he is. God loves you.Always a pleasure Lt Ripley.

THIS IS KEVIN SPEAKING, NOT MY MOM SANDEE, I don't know what happened here but my mom is so upset she can not stop crying and will not tell me what happened. She is a very sweet person and I am mad that someone has upsset her, She tells me about you guys all the time and considers you freinds so WHY would you hurt her like that? She is very tender hearted and thinks alot of her reputation here and everywhere. Whoever hurt my mom, She is such a special person who cares about everyone and everything, It doesnt take much to hurrt her She is a very special person and you should trat her that way
FROM KEVIN

one - God doesn't subscribe to any religion or belief.

A 19 year old son ????

Please grow up. Walking on eggshells is not a pleasure. Rip never did anything wrong.

This is a soap opera !

And one you created. I beg to differ about Lt. Ripley, she's being mean and vindictive and so are you by the way. The both of you need to go play in the Spirituality vs. skeptism area where it seems ok to trash a person's character. The only thing Sandee is trying to do is to understand God's power of healing while not being belittled in the process, this isn't high school ladies....Take a break!

div ..
...Unless your religion can take you to your deepest, sincere self.
In my experience, sincerity goes a long way, and no doubt, God has placed this notion in my configuration, in my system, when I met Him/Her/It, like a download. How could a God ignore someone so sweet and so sublime, wrapped up in sincere longing? And again, to get to this sincere space is a journey in itself, but to start, one must invite God in. Some call this journey "true religion," one's guided actions to knowing God, but only through God's grace, of course.

As I said to you before, Lt. Ripley: "You don't have to take my word for it."

Please always respect the beliefs of other members. The bashing of specific religions, countries, races or belief systems is strictly disallowed. A lot of the topics in this section cover some sensitive areas and it is important to respect other people's views. This means no flaming, no flamebaiting, no trolling and no personal attacks.